The Many Faces of US Politics...

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Ding dong Nunes is gone!!

[stew]

As always, a well reasoned and enlightening response there Stew. The facts on the effectiveness of Refugee vetting would differ "bigly" with your statement and with regard to the election. It did turn out badly for the nation but don't worry California will still continue to subsidize Wisconsin despite the fact that our votes don't count for as much as yours

Subdidise Wisconsin with what?

California does not have a pot to piss in!

[stew]

Democrats are protesting the Executive order which is trying to prevent such attackers coming to the US.

Bring them all over eh Eamon? There's a sanctuary city somewhere which will hide them and allow them to do whatever they want.

Democrats are (rightfully) more concerned about the ease with which any half-wit with a twisted, perceived grievance against anyone can get their hands on a gun and the death toll which results than with the miniscule rate at which desperate people trying to escape a war zone turn into terrorists.

Would it not be prudent then to minimise your risk as much as possible. You cant kick out americans with guns (its in the constitution) but you CAN stop any further issues by stopping potential jihadists from entering the country.
Bullshit all you like but you have no idea how it will play out if you let them in. It's not worth taking the chance.
That goes for Europe also.

Yeah. If only there was some sort of vetting process for refugees.


Oh wait, there already is and has been for a long time. Reality must be a confusing place for conservatives.

Not really, it just sucked and needs to be overhauled.

Here is your reality, the USA voted to f**k Obama and his liberal agenda, Clinton ran on four more years of Obama, how did that work out for you liberals fuckwits?

Why don't you educate us liberal fuckwits on how it sucked stew?

Let me count the ways, it was bogged down, so laden with reams of bureauocratic gibberish the so called experts couldnt explain it.
The rollout was an absolute disgrace, a liberal horror show that showed the ineptitude of the administration.
Obama lied and said you could keep your current doctors.
Peolle who could not afford it got fined for not having it.
It impacted small businesses and stifled their growth.
It got incredinly expendivd and provuders pulled kut of states because it was costing them millions.

Is that enough education for you?

[Puckoon]

The question was about the existing refugee vetting process, not the affordable care act.

Thanks for the fact laden education though.

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The question was about the existing refugee vetting process, not the affordable care act.

Thanks for the fact laden education though.

Hilarious that he's giving out about how liberals couldn't roll out Obamacare yet the Republicans have had 7 years to craft their alternative and when they got the chance they couldn't even agree with themselves on it.

At least Obama got something done and while it's not perfect he deserves credit that so many people now have cover but then I imagine stews skin would burn should he ever give Obama some credit.

Trump's doing great though!

[seafoid]

Stephen Miller is one of the fruitcakes allied to Bannon in the WH .


Stephen
Miller ‏@StephenMillerAL 24
jul. 2016

"Let's make sure
the liberals not only lose in November, but that it takes a generation for them
to rebuild their party DNCleak#Gop"

This was very wishful. The GOP messed up Trumpcare which the Freedom Caucus, a Republican group, now call Swampcare. http://theresurgent.com/swampcare-the-great-betrayal/

There won't be any 1000 year GOP reich. They probably won't even make it past the mid terms.Bannon got lucky in the Presidential election just like Arron Banks fluked the Brexit vote. Governing is much harder.

[heganboy]

Stew,
What was the alternative option to Obama Care?

[seafoid]

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2017/04/20/where-evangelicals-came-from/

[seafoid]

Stew,
What was the alternative option to Obama Care?

total reform of healthcare
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2009/07/02/the-health-reform-we-need-are-not-getting/

Neither my proposal, nor Emanuel's, nor Conyers's, nor any other plan that starts with the elimination of private employment-based insurance and depends largely on public funding stands much of a chance of being enacted now. It would be too great a change, and it would threaten insurance companies and other powerful vested interests that influence Congress. The same is true of any major reorganization of medical care that phases out fee-for-service practice in favor of nonprofit multispecialty groups of salaried physicians and dampens the commercial fire that has converted US medical care into an ever-expanding profit-seeking industry.
As bad as they already are, things will have to get still worse before major reform becomes politically possible. The legislation likely to emerge from this Congress will not control—and will probably even exacerbate—the inflation of costs. But sometime in the not-too- distant future, health expenditures will become intolerable and fundamental change will at last be accepted as the only way to avoid disaster. When that time arrives, the opportunity to enact real health reform will finally be at hand.

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McConnell wrecks the Senate rules because he wouldn't confirm Garland for basically no reason... Dems had every right to fillibuster Gorsuch given the stupidity of what happened for the last year and a half!

[Esmarelda]

So if Trump has called out Obama for being weak on Syria and the Whitehouse says it is pretty confident Assad is behind the recent atrocities....what does Donald do now....?

Does he risk upsetting Russia? Does he invade? Or does he do what the previous administration did....throw a little weight around, change very little and ultimately be roundly ignored in the long run by the Syrian authority?

At the minute it seems to be - blame Obama (Trump conveniently forgetting he publically came out himself against the US attacking Syria in 2013) and make excuses as to why they won't intervene.

Any mention of Syrian main supporter / ally Russia?...not much....

Maybe he'll wait until the hilarious faux-outrage of the UK, US and (wait for it) Israel disappears, the Russian resolution for an investigation is passed, an investigation takes place and no proof of a chemical attack is found. Then wait for the next bullshit story.

[Eamonnca1]

Subdidise Wisconsin with what?

California does not have a pot to piss in!

California is the world's 6th biggest economy. It has a balanced budget and has done for years. Amazing what you can do with a Democratic governor and Dems in both houses of the assembly.

[Eamonnca1]

Let me count the ways, it was bogged down, so laden with reams of bureauocratic gibberish the so called experts couldnt explain it.
The rollout was an absolute disgrace, a liberal horror show that showed the ineptitude of the administration.
Obama lied and said you could keep your current doctors.
Peolle who could not afford it got fined for not having it.
It impacted small businesses and stifled their growth.
It got incredinly expendivd and provuders pulled kut of states because it was costing them millions.

Is that enough education for you?

[omochain]

As always, a well reasoned and enlightening response there Stew. The facts on the effectiveness of Refugee vetting would differ "bigly" with your statement and with regard to the election. It did turn out badly for the nation but don't worry California will still continue to subsidize Wisconsin despite the fact that our votes don't count for as much as yours

Subdidise Wisconsin with what?

California does not have a pot to piss in!


You seem to be unaware that despite their rhetoric,  Red States are the States that spend a disproportionate amount of the Federal Government's tax intake. Blue States contribute disproportionately. Ergo being good citizens of the Union and net tax contributors to the Feds, California is subsidizing Red States. To your credit, Wisconsin, just having flipped to Red is not the worst offender.

Incidentally, since we got rid of our Republican Governor and started taxing people who can afford it , you will note that we have got quite a large pot to piss in.
Apparently taking money away from wealthy people and giving it to lads who will spent it, creates demand and jobs follow. Who would a figured!

[Eamonnca1]

As always, a well reasoned and enlightening response there Stew. The facts on the effectiveness of Refugee vetting would differ "bigly" with your statement and with regard to the election. It did turn out badly for the nation but don't worry California will still continue to subsidize Wisconsin despite the fact that our votes don't count for as much as yours

Subdidise Wisconsin with what?

California does not have a pot to piss in!

You seem to be unaware that despite their rhetoric,  Red States are the States that spend a disproportionate amount of the Federal Government's tax intake. Blue States contribute disproportionately. Ergo being good citizens of the Union and net tax contributors to the Feds, California is subsidizing Red States. To your credit, Wisconsin, just having flipped to Red is not the worst offender.

Incidentally, since we got rid of our Republican Governor and started taxing people who can afford it , you will note that we have got quite a large pot to piss in.
Apparently taking money away from wealthy people and giving it to lads who will spent it, creates demand and jobs follow. Who would a figured!

Stand by for Stew to give the standard Neocon response that tax cuts for the rich creates more jobs for everyone, despite there not being a single example of where this has ever happened.