The Many Faces of US Politics...

[foxcommander]

Democrats are protesting the Executive order which is trying to prevent such attackers coming to the US.

Bring them all over eh Eamon? There's a sanctuary city somewhere which will hide them and allow them to do whatever they want.

Democrats are (rightfully) more concerned about the ease with which any half-wit with a twisted, perceived grievance against anyone can get their hands on a gun and the death toll which results than with the miniscule rate at which desperate people trying to escape a war zone turn into terrorists.

Would it not be prudent then to minimise your risk as much as possible. You cant kick out americans with guns (its in the constitution) but you CAN stop any further issues by stopping potential jihadists from entering the country.
Bullshit all you like but you have no idea how it will play out if you let them in. It's not worth taking the chance.
That goes for Europe also.

[heganboy]

There is a reason it's called an amendment...

[tyroneman]

So if Trump has called out Obama for being weak on Syria and the Whitehouse says it is pretty confident Assad is behind the recent atrocities....what does Donald do now....?

Does he risk upsetting Russia? Does he invade? Or does he do what the previous administration did....throw a little weight around, change very little and ultimately be roundly ignored in the long run by the Syrian authority?

At the minute it seems to be - blame Obama (Trump conveniently forgetting he publically came out himself against the US attacking Syria in 2013) and make excuses as to why they won't intervene.

Any mention of Syrian main supporter / ally Russia?...not much....

[J70]

Democrats are protesting the Executive order which is trying to prevent such attackers coming to the US.

Bring them all over eh Eamon? There's a sanctuary city somewhere which will hide them and allow them to do whatever they want.

Democrats are (rightfully) more concerned about the ease with which any half-wit with a twisted, perceived grievance against anyone can get their hands on a gun and the death toll which results than with the miniscule rate at which desperate people trying to escape a war zone turn into terrorists.

Would it not be prudent then to minimise your risk as much as possible. You cant kick out americans with guns (its in the constitution) but you CAN stop any further issues by stopping potential jihadists from entering the country.
Bullshit all you like but you have no idea how it will play out if you let them in. It's not worth taking the chance.
That goes for Europe also.

The fact that they're crossing into Europe via beaches and open borders while undergoing months and years of vetting prior to entry into the US is irrelevant?

Only one person talking out of their arse here...

[J70]

So Trump blames Obama for gas attack today. Pathetic. Well Donald now is in a position to do something now that Obama didn't do. I suspect that he'll do f**k all. That's because he can do f**k all, like Obama could do f**k all about it. He's the President ffs. He Blames Obama but he clearly has no intention of getting his hands dirty in Syria and God forbid, upsetting his Russian friends. Already a weak and damaged President. A bully that has already nothing to back up the bluster and posturing.

Never mind that he's on record, on numerous occasions, telling Obama NOT to intervene and that Syria is NOT America's problem.

Is there a day passes where he DOESN'T lie and make shit up and contradict himself?

Disgusting human being, to use his own words.

[Eamonnca1]

Democrats are protesting the Executive order which is trying to prevent such attackers coming to the US.

Bring them all over eh Eamon? There's a sanctuary city somewhere which will hide them and allow them to do whatever they want.

Why would someone who wants to attack a US embassy travel to the United States, you intellectually bankrupt conservative? Do you know what an embassy is?

Visit Disneyland of course.

In the mind of Democrats everyone shares their diet cokes with each other, gives hugs and sings Kumbaya.
Go over to Oakland and try it out in the ghetto

There you go again. What is this obsession with my visits to Oakland?

[Eamonnca1]

Democrats are protesting the Executive order which is trying to prevent such attackers coming to the US.

Bring them all over eh Eamon? There's a sanctuary city somewhere which will hide them and allow them to do whatever they want.

Democrats are (rightfully) more concerned about the ease with which any half-wit with a twisted, perceived grievance against anyone can get their hands on a gun and the death toll which results than with the miniscule rate at which desperate people trying to escape a war zone turn into terrorists.

Would it not be prudent then to minimise your risk as much as possible. You cant kick out americans with guns (its in the constitution) but you CAN stop any further issues by stopping potential jihadists from entering the country.
Bullshit all you like but you have no idea how it will play out if you let them in. It's not worth taking the chance.
That goes for Europe also.

Yeah. If only there was some sort of vetting process for refugees.

Oh wait, there already is and has been for a long time. Reality must be a confusing place for conservatives.

[stew]

Democrats are protesting the Executive order which is trying to prevent such attackers coming to the US.

Bring them all over eh Eamon? There's a sanctuary city somewhere which will hide them and allow them to do whatever they want.

Democrats are (rightfully) more concerned about the ease with which any half-wit with a twisted, perceived grievance against anyone can get their hands on a gun and the death toll which results than with the miniscule rate at which desperate people trying to escape a war zone turn into terrorists.

Would it not be prudent then to minimise your risk as much as possible. You cant kick out americans with guns (its in the constitution) but you CAN stop any further issues by stopping potential jihadists from entering the country.
Bullshit all you like but you have no idea how it will play out if you let them in. It's not worth taking the chance.
That goes for Europe also.

Yeah. If only there was some sort of vetting process for refugees.


Oh wait, there already is and has been for a long time. Reality must be a confusing place for conservatives.

Not really, it just sucked and needs to be overhauled.

Here is your reality, the USA voted to f**k Obama and his liberal agenda, Clinton ran on four more years of Obama, how did that work out for you liberals fuckwits?

[omochain]

As always, a well reasoned and enlightening response there Stew. The facts on the effectiveness of Refugee vetting would differ "bigly" with your statement and with regard to the election. It did turn out badly for the nation but don't worry California will still continue to subsidize Wisconsin despite the fact that our votes don't count for as much as yours

[seafoid]

Bannon has been dropped from the national security council

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/05/donald-trump-removes-steve-bannon-national-security-council/

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[Eamonnca1]

Not really, it just sucked and needs to be overhauled.

Au contraire

Here is your reality, the USA voted to f**k Obama and his liberal agenda, Clinton ran on four more years of Obama, how did that work out for you liberals fuckwits?

"America" voted for Hillary. The electoral college (aka affirmative action for rednecks) voted for Trump, the most clueless incompetent f***wit ever to set foot in DC.

[J70]

Democrats are protesting the Executive order which is trying to prevent such attackers coming to the US.

Bring them all over eh Eamon? There's a sanctuary city somewhere which will hide them and allow them to do whatever they want.

Democrats are (rightfully) more concerned about the ease with which any half-wit with a twisted, perceived grievance against anyone can get their hands on a gun and the death toll which results than with the miniscule rate at which desperate people trying to escape a war zone turn into terrorists.

Would it not be prudent then to minimise your risk as much as possible. You cant kick out americans with guns (its in the constitution) but you CAN stop any further issues by stopping potential jihadists from entering the country.
Bullshit all you like but you have no idea how it will play out if you let them in. It's not worth taking the chance.
That goes for Europe also.

Yeah. If only there was some sort of vetting process for refugees.


Oh wait, there already is and has been for a long time. Reality must be a confusing place for conservatives.

Not really, it just sucked and needs to be overhauled.

Here is your reality, the USA voted to f**k Obama and his liberal agenda, Clinton ran on four more years of Obama, how did that work out for you liberals fuckwits?

Why don't you educate us liberal fuckwits on how it sucked stew?

[J70]

"NATION DESPERATELY HOPES REAL REASON FOR BANNON'S EXIT WILL NOT INVOLVE SEX TAPE"

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/nation-desperately-hopes-real-reason-for-bannons-exit-will-not-involve-sex-tape?intcid=mod-latest

[theskull1]

Dan Carlin (of Hardcore History fame) is well worth a listen in regard to American politics. I've only recently started listening to his Common Sense series. His most recent podcasts are excellent.
Common Sense 314 – Unhealthy Numbers  (about the repeal of Obama care)
Common Sense 313 – Get Me A Glass of Water  (General shoot the breeze about the political situation/peril) 

http://www.dancarlin.com/product-category/common-sense-with-dan-carlin/current-common-sense/