The Many Faces of US Politics...

[seafoid]

The Jewish angle is very interesting. Liberal Jews are terrified. Nazi Jews like Geller are radiant.

Journalist Peter Beinart's Twitter page is highly instructive.

https://twitter.com/PeterBeinart?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

From today's article by Gene Kerrigan:

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/gene-kerrigan-sexist-trumps-sickly-land-of-grope-n-glory-35210752.html

On the street, we already know how that's going. On the night of the count, as it became clear that Trump would win, a prominent American journalist named Peter Beinart tweeted his solidarity with American Muslims, in the best liberal Jewish tradition.

His timeline filled with anti-Semitism. "Kike". "Get out of our country, parasite."

Twitter insults are common, but these came complete with the Nazi signifiers - the "Juden" remarks, the reference to "Zyklon B", used by the Nazis in the gas chambers. "In the ovens you go."

Steve Bannon from Breitbart which is the hate factory and produced the bots and the Antisemitism is now Trump's right hand man in the White house

https://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/11/13/white-nationalist-who-hates-jews-will-be-trumps-right-hand-man-white-house/214419

This is not the onshore/offshore Mayo lads having an argument about hopey changy versus traditional republican thinking

This is the 1930s. 

[seafoid]

All I can say (IMHO) is that the Dems have started catering to the opinions/values of the elite of the party and are intolerant of any dissenting opinions....people are fed up having their vote taken for granted and being told to sit down and shut up.

That was last week, Whitey


Stephen Colbert ‏@StephenAtHome  11 nov.
You know, when you really think about it, I don't recommend you think about it.

[seafoid]

The hate comes from the top and is distributed via social media.  Kids respond to it
This is how the Cultural Revolution worked in China 

http://wncn.com/2016/11/11/durham-teacher-suspended-following-expletive-filled-tirade-towards-students/

DURHAM, N.C. (WNCN) – A Durham middle school teacher has been suspended after audio recordings show her going on an expletive-filled tirade in class.
Majonica Haithcox was recorded by a student Wednesday where she expressed her frustrations with the election and her student's level of respect.
Superintendent Bert L'Homme
issued a statement saying Haithcox has been suspended pending further disciplinary action.
"I will not tolerate yelling and foul language with students. My statement this week was clear: we must provide a safe, respectful and welcoming environment for ALL students. The teacher in question has been suspended pending a recommendation for disciplinary action," L'Homme said in a statement.
Haithcox is listed as an eight grade language arts teacher at Shepard Middle School.
"Don't talk to me! I don't give a (expletive,)" Haithcox can be heard yelling. "The social climate is too intense for us to keep acting like a (expletive) fool. We are smart. We don't do that (expletive)."
Haithcox hammers the students about the election and what she believes the future will hold.
"You can think it's funny now but y'all be the ones crying 10 years from now, 'oh, I should have listened to her,'" Haithcox said. "Get your (expletive) together."
The teacher then said she had no problem taking her issues up with her students' parents.
"Tell your parents. I'll call them on the phone and cuss them out, too," she said. "After the first week I stopped giving a damn because y'all didn't give a damn."
Haithcox then works to justify her tirade to the students.
"I'm cussing at you because this is honestly the only way it's gonna hit y'all," she said. "I gotta be real with y'all, I'm a real-ass (expletive) that's what it is. I keep it real. I keep it honest. Y'all are (expletive) up."
Haithcox then moves on to discuss the difficulties of being a teacher.
"I'm losing sleep. I'm waking up at 2 in the (expletive) morning to make sure y'all have work," she said. "Maybe they'll give you some white teachers that care about ya'll."
A student in Haithcox's class said she is "nice actually, but she was upset about the election results, and her anger came out on us."
Attempts to contact Haithcox have been unsuccessful.

[seafoid]

4 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON0qnRlwLbw

But the Dems don't understand the people

[seafoid]

Fake plastic GOP trees

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/09/us/politics/debunk-fake-news-election-day.html

[Main Street]

As predicted, Trump has done a back flip on his major campaign promise to "immediately repeal and replace Obamacare" towards a tinkering with it,
and this is just his first major interview a few days after being elected, 2 months before taking up office.

He has no choice. There are serious problems with the health insurance system, but people like a lot of what Obamacare brought in, while they can't just strip 20 million people of health insurance.

What the insanity Freedom Caucus and their allies in the House make of it is another issue.

This thread moves fast.

You make it sound (unintentional perhaps)  that there is an element of pragmatism involved with Trump doing a backflip on Obamacare the day after getting elected, instead of what it is when a politicians breaks a major election promises, in this case Trump knew he would have to do a backflip but persisted with his big lie all along in regards to a major election promise just until he got elected, that would be a rated as  top grade cynical political hypocrisy.

What is transpiring though is that with Trump in the presidential seat, means the Trump supporters are off the streets and instead the presidency will become the focus for social protest, even though Trump will not manage to carry out more than a fraction of the hate crimes he promised.

[stew]

As predicted, Trump has done a back flip on his major campaign promise to "immediately repeal and replace Obamacare" towards a tinkering with it,
and this is just his first major interview a few days after being elected, 2 months before taking up office.

He has no choice. There are serious problems with the health insurance system, but people like a lot of what Obamacare brought in, while they can't just strip 20 million people of health insurance.

What the insanity Freedom Caucus and their allies in the House make of it is another issue.

This thread moves fast.

You make it sound (unintentional perhaps)  that there is an element of pragmatism involved with Trump doing a backflip on Obamacare the day after getting elected, instead of what it is when a politicians breaks a major election promises, in this case Trump knew he would have to do a backflip but persisted with his big lie all along in regards to a major election promise just until he got elected, that would be a rated as  top grade cynical political hypocrisy.

What is transpiring though is that with Trump in the presidential seat, means the Trump supporters are off the streets and instead the presidency will become the focus for social protest, even though Trump will not manage to carry out more than a fraction of the hate crimes he promised.

What hate crimes did the president elect promise exactly?


Liberals see racism everywhere these days, they had the market cornered in it back when they were slave owners but now, if you utter a word against their policies you are a bitter, uneducated racist bigot.

[stew]

Fox now will have to defend GOP Policy and a lot of system problems can't take any more procrastination. Fox will have to be largely fact based which will be a challenge.

That is extremely wishful thinking.

It's not as if they were fact-based during the Bush presidency and the likes of Breitbart and the alt-right nutters weren't around then.

the alt right drove a tank in a general's rank when the Blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank
I know the Daily Mail is doing its best but the Financial system is collapsing and it's very hard to maintain bullshit indefinitely when the data are so shit and people are living it.
the GOP is unlikely to come out of this in one shape.   
Because it is like the Tories. It doesn't fix problems.

The UK has a deficit of 6% of GDP. The US has a healthcare sector that is almost one fifth of the economy. The Tories want to leave Europe and f**k the deficit
The GOP want more rent out of healthcare

It's the hara kiri stage of the Thatcher business cycle

On the contrary, the bullshit-o-meter should be off the chart now that Trump has been elected.

Continued Republican victories will depend on it.

The people voted for Kochsuckers and more money for Wall St
This is not what it said on the tin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vST61W4bGm8

They will not fix the economy.
So it will collapse

The GOP won't be winning any more elections for some time

They have not won one for some time.

[stew]

Dems didnt listen to their constituents, youre not listening to them, the DNC didnt listen to them, J70 isnt listening to them......if Trump does well, these people may be permanently lost to the Democratic Party

What am I not listening to?

The whole point of this subject is WHAT exactly IS their problem or complaint?

I already laid out what their grievances were, but you decided to go off on another tangent.....

And they were the most part bullshit, which is why I went off on the tangent of whether we should listen to illegitimate grievances.

Just because a demagogue was able to exploit them to an election win doesn't lend them credence.

The Irish American guy in the Eire pub said:

"Do you know why he'll win?". "Because people are tired of being talked down to."

http://www.independent.ie/life/echoes-of-the-rust-belt-on-irish-riviera-35207534.html

So questioning their complaints is talking down to them?

Accusing them of being sexist, rascist homophobic or Islamophibic without any justification is!

So we are going around in circles!

Nothing you've posted has justified supporting Trump on that basis.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-donald-trump-voters-20161113-story.html

Stew would lambast these people telling to grow a set.

Here is the problem, Trump is clearly a misogynist, seems to live well down the racist road and the word islamophobe also appears to follow him round. That's fine.

So the question is, if you vote for such a person, is it fair to say those are your views as well? Serious question btw. Sometimes a vote is just a vote for the least worst option.

No, if you voted for Clinton that does not make you a criminal, a woman hater, a hater of the middle class, a war monger, you probably just coukdnt stand the thought of a blowhard billionaire self loving arsehole as your next president so you chose the second best option!

[seafoid]

As predicted, Trump has done a back flip on his major campaign promise to "immediately repeal and replace Obamacare" towards a tinkering with it,
and this is just his first major interview a few days after being elected, 2 months before taking up office.

He has no choice. There are serious problems with the health insurance system, but people like a lot of what Obamacare brought in, while they can't just strip 20 million people of health insurance.

What the insanity Freedom Caucus and their allies in the House make of it is another issue.

This thread moves fast.

You make it sound (unintentional perhaps)  that there is an element of pragmatism involved with Trump doing a backflip on Obamacare the day after getting elected, instead of what it is when a politicians breaks a major election promises, in this case Trump knew he would have to do a backflip but persisted with his big lie all along in regards to a major election promise just until he got elected, that would be a rated as  top grade cynical political hypocrisy.

What is transpiring though is that with Trump in the presidential seat, means the Trump supporters are off the streets and instead the presidency will become the focus for social protest, even though Trump will not manage to carry out more than a fraction of the hate crimes he promised.

What hate crimes did the president elect promise exactly?


Liberals see racism everywhere these days, they had the market cornered in it back when they were slave owners but now, if you utter a word against their policies you are a bitter, uneducated racist bigot.

Stew you always came across as very decent.
Trump has as his strategy chief the head of Breitbart who used psy ops including vile antisemitic filth to get the man elected.

There is nothing wrong with conservative values

But Breitbart is outside the pale.

[seafoid]

As predicted, Trump has done a back flip on his major campaign promise to "immediately repeal and replace Obamacare" towards a tinkering with it,
and this is just his first major interview a few days after being elected, 2 months before taking up office.

He has no choice. There are serious problems with the health insurance system, but people like a lot of what Obamacare brought in, while they can't just strip 20 million people of health insurance.

What the insanity Freedom Caucus and their allies in the House make of it is another issue.

This thread moves fast.

You make it sound (unintentional perhaps)  that there is an element of pragmatism involved with Trump doing a backflip on Obamacare the day after getting elected, instead of what it is when a politicians breaks a major election promises, in this case Trump knew he would have to do a backflip but persisted with his big lie all along in regards to a major election promise just until he got elected, that would be a rated as  top grade cynical political hypocrisy.

What is transpiring though is that with Trump in the presidential seat, means the Trump supporters are off the streets and instead the presidency will become the focus for social protest, even though Trump will not manage to carry out more than a fraction of the hate crimes he promised.

Trump set the ball rolling. Now the hate is working its way through the general population. The regime will strip Environmental protection while everyone is distracted. J Goebbels is the reference.

[Main Street]

As predicted, Trump has done a back flip on his major campaign promise to "immediately repeal and replace Obamacare" towards a tinkering with it,
and this is just his first major interview a few days after being elected, 2 months before taking up office.

He has no choice. There are serious problems with the health insurance system, but people like a lot of what Obamacare brought in, while they can't just strip 20 million people of health insurance.

What the insanity Freedom Caucus and their allies in the House make of it is another issue.

This thread moves fast.

You make it sound (unintentional perhaps)  that there is an element of pragmatism involved with Trump doing a backflip on Obamacare the day after getting elected, instead of what it is when a politicians breaks a major election promises, in this case Trump knew he would have to do a backflip but persisted with his big lie all along in regards to a major election promise just until he got elected, that would be a rated as  top grade cynical political hypocrisy.

What is transpiring though is that with Trump in the presidential seat, means the Trump supporters are off the streets and instead the presidency will become the focus for social protest, even though Trump will not manage to carry out more than a fraction of the hate crimes he promised.

Trump set the ball rolling. Now the hate is working its way through the general population. The regime will strip Environmental protection while everyone is distracted. J Goebbels is the reference.

Already Trump has backflipped on many of his hate crime promises but there is one in particular which he referred to post election.
Info taken from http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/11/13/1598432/-Trump-again-promises-immediate-effort-to-jail-or-deport-millions

"What we are going to do is get the people that are criminal and have criminal records, gang members, drug dealers, where a lot of these people, probably 2 million, it could be even 3 million, we are getting them out of our country or we are going to incarcerate," Trump said in the interview. "But we're getting them out of our country, they're here illegally."

There are not 3m undocumented immigrants with "criminal" records to jail or deport. It's not even close.
There are estimated  820K undocumented immigrants with a criminal record and crossing the border illegally ranks high in the list of crimes.

In the list of some 300,000 deportations, most had no  serious criminal record at all.

Trump's promises amount to a  hate crime allowing undocumented residents to be victimized by crime.

[seafoid]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_IFHYzk0rY

[muppet]

All I can say (IMHO) is that the Dems have started catering to the opinions/values of the elite of the party and are intolerant of any dissenting opinions....people are fed up having their vote taken for granted and being told to sit down and shut up.

Dissenting opinions all matter, don't they?

[muppet]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trumps-point-man-on-financial-regulation-a-former-regulator-who-favors-a-light-touch-1478860201?mod=e2tw

...Paul Atkins served as a Republican member of the Securities and Exchange Commission from 2002 to 2008, where he spoke out against big fines for companies, arguing they punish shareholders. Now Mr. Atkins, 58 years old, is the member of the president-elect's transition team charged with recommending policies on financial regulation, according to current and former regulators briefed on the matter....


Light touch regulation coming for Wall Street then.