The Many Faces of US Politics...

[seafoid]

It is exactly the same as Brexit. Plámás to get elected. Take on special interests/ 350m for the NHS. And then betrayal.

Boomers don't care about the climate. They won't be around.

[seafoid]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vST61W4bGm8

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/13/trump-looking-at-quickest-way-to-quit-paris-climate-agreement-says-report

[J70]

I stopped into my local coffee shop this morning on my way home from the gym

Had a nice chat with the owner about the election (he's a conservative like me)

Seeming quite a few  of the teenagers from the local prep school (14-18 yr olds) were crying their eyes out and consoling each other on Wednesday morning. 

Their parents pay $50k a year to send them there and this is what theyre turning out....fvckin nanny pambies......I'd be looking point for a refund if I was them.

God bless them the poor crathurs, their feelings have been hurt.  There's want a good week in a he bog to harden them up....and a good kick up the hole too

Were you so dismissive of right wingers who were similarly upset and forecasting the end of America four and eight years ago?

People get upset about sports FFS. Presidential politics is something that actually matters and affects real lives.

They weren't happy 4 years ago, but they weren't curled in in the foetal position or crying into
their skinny one pump chai lattes

Rove was. Romney wrote a paper on how the GOP needed to reconnect with voters after 2012. He never thought about emulating George Wallace, pussy baiting or using antisemitism to get in extremists.

Nobody does sneering, crying, moaning, taking offence, invoking free speech and then trying to shut it down, or general throwing toys out of the pram quite like conservatives.

Except those liberal lowlife scumbags in Portland that hate the constitution, the country they were born and live in.

You liberals are masters of hypocrisy, I have to hand it to you.

Sanctuary cities gone, Megyns Law is a coming and when Trump gets in the liberal knackers that are rioting will be charged with hate crimes the c***ts!

So the rioters are not throwing the toys out of the pram? Catch yourself on FFS!

Hate crimes? On what grounds?

Would you be on here frothing at the mouth if Hillary had won and the widespread unrest threatened by the right had come to pass?

[J70]

It doesn't look good with people like Pamêla Geller and John Bolton prominent

Pamela Geller?

Are you f**king serious??

[J70]

It doesn't look good with people like Pamela Geller and John Bolton prominent

The cabinet picks will go a long way to telling you how Trump will govern and so far it's looking very scary.
The one thing that you can guarantee is a big tax cut for all and that is not going to really help those unemployed or underpaid folks who voted for Trump. You will get more "trickle down"economic policies that have been a proven failure for the last 30 years.
Jobs are created by demand. Demand is created by putting more spending power in the hands of poor people who actually spend their income on goods and services in the US. The Republican Party will not vote for big infrastructure spending and increases in the minimum wage. Stuff that will jack up the spending power of the working class. Ergo the most of the tax savings will go to the wealthy and disappear off shore or at best into savings accounts here. Therefore Less spending on things in the US, leading to decreased demand .. recession and more grief for the working class of Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan. and Wisconsin.

Yes, Kansas is undergoing a very telling, trickle-down/supply-side economics experiment right now. Alarmingly, Brownback has been one of the names touted for the administration.

The GOP does not seem to get the simple premise that poorer people spend a far higher proportion, if not all, of their income on a weekly basis. Tax relief aimed at them is guaranteed to put more money into the economy.

I think it would be fantastic if Trump was able to kickstart the infrastructure spending that the GOP blocked Obama from doing for years. It will be interesting to see if hypocrisy reigns now that their own guy is at the controls, or if they really don't give a shit about crumbling roads, bridges and railway systems or understand its importance to the economy.

On a related note, I was reading that the proposed Gateway project build a new railway tunnel between NJ and Manhattan is going to cost four times as much as the ARC project which Christie torpedoed a few years back, supposedly due to the cost to the tax payer. Christie supports the Gateway project...

[whitey]

http://m.independent.ie/life/echoes-of-the-rust-belt-on-irish-riviera-35207534.html

Great explanation as to why Hillary lost.....Brexit Mark II

[whitey]

GOP voters should put on their f**k me boots.

http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/11/11/facebook-twitter-trump-how-internet-changed-election/

much has been made of the migration of "news" to the web—news conveyed via social media, Facebook and Twitter especially, but also through partisan websites that, while devoting little or no resources to fact-based reporting, have followed the Fox News playbook of taking on the appearance of traditional news-gathering operations. While it is true that this can be confusing to some readers, who are led to believe that the sites they rely on for information are honest and objective when, instead, they are designed to throw poisonous content into the news cycle, the actual effect is even more insidious: it has created an equivalence between those ideological sites and traditional journalism


After studying four million election-related tweets created between September 16 and October 21, the University of Southern California computer science professor, Emilio Ferrara, and his colleagues, determined that one in five were generated by bots. And once they were, they were retweeted again and again by actual humans, who sent them ricocheting around the web, especially those that were antagonistic; in earlier work, Ferrara's group found that negative tweets traveled 2.5 times faster than positive ones.  "As a result, [the bots] were able to build significant influence, collecting large numbers of followers and having their tweets retweeted by thousands of humans," and leading to the "spreading of content that is often defamatory or based on unsupported or even false, claims." Ferrara further noted that, "previous studies showed that this systematic bias alters public perception. Specifically, it creates the false impression that there is grassroots, positive, sustained support for a certain candidate."

So should we rely on CNN to educate us as to what's going on?

Their attempt to influence the election was nothing short of a disgrace

[J70]

http://m.independent.ie/life/echoes-of-the-rust-belt-on-irish-riviera-35207534.html

Great explanation as to why Hillary lost.....Brexit Mark II

Great explanation to why Hillary lost, perhaps, in that it details their incoherence.

On the one hand, the Dems and elites talk down to them, the poor crayturs. How exactly are they being talked down to? What is it that these apparently delicate, sensitive people find so offensive?

On the other hand, they're dismissing some of Trump's most potent demagoguing, such as the deportation threats, as empty election promises. Yet they like him because he's telling it as it is?

[J70]

GOP voters should put on their f**k me boots.

http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/11/11/facebook-twitter-trump-how-internet-changed-election/

much has been made of the migration of "news" to the web—news conveyed via social media, Facebook and Twitter especially, but also through partisan websites that, while devoting little or no resources to fact-based reporting, have followed the Fox News playbook of taking on the appearance of traditional news-gathering operations. While it is true that this can be confusing to some readers, who are led to believe that the sites they rely on for information are honest and objective when, instead, they are designed to throw poisonous content into the news cycle, the actual effect is even more insidious: it has created an equivalence between those ideological sites and traditional journalism


After studying four million election-related tweets created between September 16 and October 21, the University of Southern California computer science professor, Emilio Ferrara, and his colleagues, determined that one in five were generated by bots. And once they were, they were retweeted again and again by actual humans, who sent them ricocheting around the web, especially those that were antagonistic; in earlier work, Ferrara's group found that negative tweets traveled 2.5 times faster than positive ones.  "As a result, [the bots] were able to build significant influence, collecting large numbers of followers and having their tweets retweeted by thousands of humans," and leading to the "spreading of content that is often defamatory or based on unsupported or even false, claims." Ferrara further noted that, "previous studies showed that this systematic bias alters public perception. Specifically, it creates the false impression that there is grassroots, positive, sustained support for a certain candidate."

So should we rely on CNN to educate us as to what's going on?

Their attempt to influence the election was nothing short of a disgrace

You mean DNC chair Donna Brazile leaking one question? Or having Corey Lewandowski as a paid analyst while he was still on the Trump payroll?

Or is there something else CNN did?

Personally, I think all the news networks were complicit in giving Trump so much coverage, purely for ratings reasons.

[whitey]

http://m.independent.ie/life/echoes-of-the-rust-belt-on-irish-riviera-35207534.html

Great explanation as to why Hillary lost.....Brexit Mark II

Great explanation to why Hillary lost, perhaps, in that it details their incoherence.

On the one hand, the Dems and elites talk down to them, the poor crayturs. How exactly are they being talked down to? What is it that these apparently delicate, sensitive people find so offensive?

On the other hand, they're dismissing some of Trump's most potent demagoguing, such as the deportation threats, as empty election promises. Yet they like him because he's telling it as it is?

Dems need everyone to agree with them 110% on 100% of the issues (IMHO)

If you don't you're either a rascist, a homophobe, an islamohobe or a transphobe (a new one for me)

Take their vote for granted at your peril and that's what the Dems did this time out

[sid waddell]

http://m.independent.ie/life/echoes-of-the-rust-belt-on-irish-riviera-35207534.html

Great explanation as to why Hillary lost.....Brexit Mark II

Great explanation to why Hillary lost, perhaps, in that it details their incoherence.

On the one hand, the Dems and elites talk down to them, the poor crayturs. How exactly are they being talked down to? What is it that these apparently delicate, sensitive people find so offensive?

On the other hand, they're dismissing some of Trump's most potent demagoguing, such as the deportation threats, as empty election promises. Yet they like him because he's telling it as it is?

Trump voters and Republicans in general are awful snowflakes, really.

[J70]

http://m.independent.ie/life/echoes-of-the-rust-belt-on-irish-riviera-35207534.html

Great explanation as to why Hillary lost.....Brexit Mark II

Great explanation to why Hillary lost, perhaps, in that it details their incoherence.

On the one hand, the Dems and elites talk down to them, the poor crayturs. How exactly are they being talked down to? What is it that these apparently delicate, sensitive people find so offensive?

On the other hand, they're dismissing some of Trump's most potent demagoguing, such as the deportation threats, as empty election promises. Yet they like him because he's telling it as it is?

Dems need everyone to agree with them 110% on 100% of the issues (IMHO)

If you don't you're either a rascist, a homophobe, an islamohobe or a transphobe (a new one for me)

Take their vote for granted at your peril and that's what the Dems did this time out

Really?

Because the GOP is the party that has undergone a purge of all moderates over the past eight years.

You never hear of the equivalent of RINO or "cuckservative" on the Democratic side.

Even Eric Cantor was primaried out of power FFS! John Boehner quit because he got sick of the bullshit.

But you still haven't explained what the Dems have done or said that upset these poor Irish Riviera people so much or how their anger at the Dems is justified.

[whitey]

If you need to ask then you're living in a bubble

[muppet]

The US is becoming ungovernable. Both parties are to blame for that.

A celebrity bulls***er hi-jacked the Republican nomination and then bluffed his way into power with nonsense straight from 1930s Germany. 

The protesters are wasting their time and everyone else's. Narcissists aren't for turning, even if their protests rip city centres apart.

The irony of voting to 'make America great again' being the straw that breaks America's back, will be one of those cruel ironies historians love.

[J70]

If you need to ask then you're living in a bubble

Then assume I'm living in a bubble and explain it.