The Many Faces of US Politics...

[seafoid]

The Israel lovers are something else
The whole world is out of step with them.

Netanyahu  is a grade A arsehole.  He went behind Obama 's back to speak to congress in 2011 and the GOP gave him 29 ovations. He bet the house on the GOP and now it has no voters. Now AIPAC has to invite Trump to its conference even though he has made antisemitic  statements. You couldn't make it up.

What anti Semitic comments did he make?

(http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/262063-anti-defamation-league-defends-trumps-speech-to-jewish   )

Haaretz mentioned it but didnt give details. He is a demagogue who uses violence and hatred to generate momentum so presumably if it suited him he could turn on the jews.

[seafoid]

Whatever happens Sanders and Trumps the movements they started are here the stay. US politics and the 2 party system are never going to be the same

But are there any more Sanders figures out there in US politics? At first glance I would have thought socialism and a community outlook is long dead over there. The relative success of Bernie's campaign would say otherwise - despite the media message - but he's too old to go again. Are there other champions to pick up the mantel?

Loads of young people.

[heganboy]

Obama got pissed with Netanyahu after he gave him a lecture in the Oval Office in front of the cameras and showed up Obama for the novice he was/is . He didn't want to meet him any more after that incident. What concessions have the Castro brothers made ? Released any political prisoners or any gestures at all. The president of the USA getting pictured with che Guevara in the background is not a good idea , he's not Gerry Adams  . The socialist mask is slipping because he has nothing to lose now .

Ah I see, I missed all the subtle nuances of the realpolitik. Thanks for the education.
Also, thanks for saying that Che Guevara is not Gerry Adams. I'm sure I'm one of the many who thought they were the same person. I'm also curious about these socialist masks- I can't seem to find them on Amazon- where else can you get them?

[seafoid]

Read this

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432876/donald-trump-white-working-class-dysfunction-real-opportunity-needed-not-trump

[J70]

See Obamas over getting some tips from his heroes the Castro brothers today.
Won't meet the Israeli pm but will fly to Cuba to meet these ,guys does anyone else think this is unreal.

Netanyahu cancelled the latest meeting FFS.

And are you suggesting that Obama is wrong to have a problem with the endless annexation settlement expansions or wrong to have a different opinion on the Iran deal?

BTW, you can make legitimate criticisms of Obama's visit to and actions on Cuba (personally I agree that its time) without the ludicrous "heroes" bullshit. Its not exactly a straightforward, black and white situation.

That is, if you want to actually discuss things seriously.

[J70]

Obama got pissed with Netanyahu after he gave him a lecture in the Oval Office in front of the cameras and showed up Obama for the novice he was/is . He didn't want to meet him any more after that incident. What concessions have the Castro brothers made ? Released any political prisoners or any gestures at all. The president of the USA getting pictured with che Guevara in the background is not a good idea , he's not Gerry Adams  . The socialist mask is slipping because he has nothing to lose now .

What concessions have the Castros made over 55 years of being isolated by the US?

Has the US policy/embargo up until now made the lives of the average Cuban any better?

And its not like Obama has ignored the dissident issue, including on this trip.

[Gmac]

Obama got pissed with Netanyahu after he gave him a lecture in the Oval Office in front of the cameras and showed up Obama for the novice he was/is . He didn't want to meet him any more after that incident. What concessions have the Castro brothers made ? Released any political prisoners or any gestures at all. The president of the USA getting pictured with che Guevara in the background is not a good idea , he's not Gerry Adams  . The socialist mask is slipping because he has nothing to lose now .

Ah I see, I missed all the subtle nuances of the realpolitik. Thanks for the education.
Also, thanks for saying that Che Guevara is not Gerry Adams. I'm sure I'm one of the many who thought they were the same person. I'm also curious about these socialist masks- I can't seem to find them on Amazon- where else can you get them?

army surplus stores probably between the old East german parka jackets and the plo white and black scarves

[Gmac]

See Obamas over getting some tips from his heroes the Castro brothers today.
Won't meet the Israeli pm but will fly to Cuba to meet these ,guys does anyone else think this is unreal.

Netanyahu cancelled the latest meeting FFS.

And are you suggesting that Obama is wrong to have a problem with the endless annexation settlement expansions or wrong to have a different opinion on the Iran deal?

BTW, you can make legitimate criticisms of Obama's visit to and actions on Cuba (personally I agree that its time) without the ludicrous "heroes" bullshit. Its not exactly a straightforward, black and white situation.

That is, if you want to actually discuss things seriously.

he would not meet him until he had his deal with Iran done .

[Gmac]

Obama got pissed with Netanyahu after he gave him a lecture in the Oval Office in front of the cameras and showed up Obama for the novice he was/is . He didn't want to meet him any more after that incident. What concessions have the Castro brothers made ? Released any political prisoners or any gestures at all. The president of the USA getting pictured with che Guevara in the background is not a good idea , he's not Gerry Adams  . The socialist mask is slipping because he has nothing to lose now .

What concessions have the Castros made over 55 years of being isolated by the US?

Has the US policy/embargo up until now made the lives of the average Cuban any better?

And its not like Obama has ignored the dissident issue, including on this trip.

obama would be better suited to be United Nations secretary General or a role like that .

[seafoid]

Obama got pissed with Netanyahu after he gave him a lecture in the Oval Office in front of the cameras and showed up Obama for the novice he was/is . He didn't want to meet him any more after that incident. What concessions have the Castro brothers made ? Released any political prisoners or any gestures at all. The president of the USA getting pictured with che Guevara in the background is not a good idea , he's not Gerry Adams  . The socialist mask is slipping because he has nothing to lose now .

What concessions have the Castros made over 55 years of being isolated by the US?

Has the US policy/embargo up until now made the lives of the average Cuban any better?

And its not like Obama has ignored the dissident issue, including on this trip.

obama would be better suited to be United Nations secretary General or a role like that .

He would make a super meath manager

[seafoid]

Obama got pissed with Netanyahu after he gave him a lecture in the Oval Office in front of the cameras and showed up Obama for the novice he was/is . He didn't want to meet him any more after that incident. What concessions have the Castro brothers made ? Released any political prisoners or any gestures at all. The president of the USA getting pictured with che Guevara in the background is not a good idea , he's not Gerry Adams  . The socialist mask is slipping because he has nothing to lose now .

What concessions have the Castros made over 55 years of being isolated by the US?

Has the US policy/embargo up until now made the lives of the average Cuban any better?

And its not like Obama has ignored the dissident issue, including on this trip.

the dems are doing a better job adjusting to the demographic changes in the US. Young latinos don't care about the embargo.

[stew]

See Obamas over getting some tips from his heroes the Castro brothers today.
Won't meet the Israeli pm but will fly to Cuba to meet these ,guys does anyone else think this is unreal.

Do you mean that it's unreal that a President of the US has the foresight to do both? absolutely, seems perfectly reasonable, smart even.

If you mean that it is unreal that the President of the USA is meeting the president of a neighboring country that it is re-establishing valuable trade and political links with the US? well, that seems perfectly reasonable- smart even.

That he is also not meeting the PM of a country that is arguing about the details of the 10 year multibillion defense aid agreement it is receiving from the US, and also interfered with the US international relationships and domestic security policy to try and collapse the US led international nuclear treaty with Iran? again, that seems perfectly reasonable- smart even

The fact that its because that PM declined to travel to the US to accept the President's invite for bilateral talks (but falsely blamed it on the president's schedule)- well that seems a bit daft of the PM of that small country roughly the size of half of ulster. And maybe unreal that the President would ask twice. After all he's not seeking re-election and can maybe use that fact on behalf of the US in those talks.

Glad to see you share your delight in such a public way...
Unreal indeed!

I am sure the people of Cuba who have lived their lives under these  two tramps share your view that Obama is a visionary, as do the Cuban people of Miami!

There are so many reasons to not have done this but hey, the prez can do no wrong at this stage in the eyes of the likes of you.......maybe its the legal/illegal thing, I know not the attraction with this useless bastard.

[stew]

The Israel lovers are something else
The whole world is out of step with them.

Netanyahu  is a grade A arsehole.  He went behind Obama 's back to speak to congress in 2011 and the GOP gave him 29 ovations. He bet the house on the GOP and now it has no voters. Now AIPAC has to invite Trump to its conference even though he has made antisemitic  statements. You couldn't make it up.

So he just showed up and they let him speak, is that your story? Wise up ffs.

You liberals lie a lot, Obama knew he was coming for a month or more but you make it seem like he snuck into the country and delivered, he did not meet with Obama because he has no time for the useless f**ker!

[seafoid]

The Israel lovers are something else
The whole world is out of step with them.

Netanyahu  is a grade A arsehole.  He went behind Obama 's back to speak to congress in 2011 and the GOP gave him 29 ovations. He bet the house on the GOP and now it has no voters. Now AIPAC has to invite Trump to its conference even though he has made antisemitic  statements. You couldn't make it up.

So he just showed up and they let him speak, is that your story? Wise up ffs.

You liberals lie a lot, Obama knew he was coming for a month or more but you make it seem like he snuck into the country and delivered, he did not meet with Obama because he has no time for the useless f**ker!

It's bigger than that stew. The zionists knew what they were buying with the GOP elite. Lindsey Graham would deliver all the lines on time. So would mcconnell. Tyronie.
Now the ground is shifting.

[Keyser soze]

The US has made some major foreign policy f**k-ups over the past half century + but surely the continued cold war with Cuba must  be the most ludicrous policy for the longest time of any successive governments of any one country*.

How anyone can criticise a country making or reciprocating overtures from one of their neighbours is beyond me.

Gmac take a bow son.


* exc Eng's occupation of Ireland of course