The Many Faces of US Politics...

[J70]

I believe illegals who are law abiding (or who commit minor infractions) should be let go about their business in their interactions with the police.

I believe illegals should be allowed get drivers licenses.....they would at least know how to drive and be insured at the same time.

I believe that illegals who are already here and who have not committed any serious crime should be allowed to stay.

I believe that illegals who are involved in drugs, property crime, violence and drunk driving should be deported.

What happens is that ideas that start off as great and compassionate can often have unintended consequences:

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/penny-starr/mayor-adult-illegal-aliens-graying-hair-enrolled-public-schools

I'd love to see some of the über liberals in the wealthy Boston suburbs allow their kids go to school with grown men. Unfortunately it's the poorer neighborhoods who bear the brunt

Whitey I agree with most of your points in this post, but can't see how it leads you to vote GOP.

As for older people at school, surely there are bigger problems. If as you said earlier they were committing crimes, then get rid. But if they are law abiding and seeking education, then what harm?

I'm a registered Independent who leans Republicsn

The problem with older people registering as students is that the schools actually have no idea who is enrolling.  They could be violent felons or sex offenders for all we know. The unintended consequence of the way the law is written is the school cannot ask for proof of age or identification. I don't know about you, but I sure as hell want to know who is going into a school my kids are attending.

In the US, local property taxes are what funds the schools, so the taxpayers/property owners have both a right and a vested interest in ensuring that extra people who don't belong there are not enrolled....it takes resources from those who really need them.

I've no problem with most of what you've said in these posts, but you don't seem to be against the principle of sanctuary cities, just some of the details in how it is implemented.

[seafoid]

Whatever happens Sanders and Trumps the movements they started are here the stay. US politics and the 2 party system are never going to be the same

[seafoid]

https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/03/17/what-we-now-know-2016-presidential-election/

[whitey]

I believe illegals who are law abiding (or who commit minor infractions) should be let go about their business in their interactions with the police.

I believe illegals should be allowed get drivers licenses.....they would at least know how to drive and be insured at the same time.

I believe that illegals who are already here and who have not committed any serious crime should be allowed to stay.

I believe that illegals who are involved in drugs, property crime, violence and drunk driving should be deported.

What happens is that ideas that start off as great and compassionate can often have unintended consequences:

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/penny-starr/mayor-adult-illegal-aliens-graying-hair-enrolled-public-schools

I'd love to see some of the über liberals in the wealthy Boston suburbs allow their kids go to school with grown men. Unfortunately it's the poorer neighborhoods who bear the brunt

Whitey I agree with most of your points in this post, but can't see how it leads you to vote GOP.

As for older people at school, surely there are bigger problems. If as you said earlier they were committing crimes, then get rid. But if they are law abiding and seeking education, then what harm?

I'm a registered Independent who leans Republicsn

The problem with older people registering as students is that the schools actually have no idea who is enrolling.  They could be violent felons or sex offenders for all we know. The unintended consequence of the way the law is written is the school cannot ask for proof of age or identification. I don't know about you, but I sure as hell want to know who is going into a school my kids are attending.

In the US, local property taxes are what funds the schools, so the taxpayers/property owners have both a right and a vested interest in ensuring that extra people who don't belong there are not enrolled....it takes resources from those who really need them.

I've no problem with most of what you've said in these posts, but you don't seem to be against the principle of sanctuary cities, just some of the details in how it is implemented.

The premise of a sanctuary city is fundamentally sound, but the unintended consequence is that violent and dangerous offenders are released back into the community to commit further crime.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33432197


Lets put the 15 M people who are already here illegally throough some type of naturalization process.  Everyone who is here, either legally or illegally needs to be set up to succeed and take advantage of all themopportunities this country has to offer

Where we probably will disagree is that while this process takes place, the southern border does need to be sealed.  You have to have some control over who comes and goes. 

[DuffleKing]

Whatever happens Sanders and Trumps the movements they started are here the stay. US politics and the 2 party system are never going to be the same

But are there any more Sanders figures out there in US politics? At first glance I would have thought socialism and a community outlook is long dead over there. The relative success of Bernie's campaign would say otherwise - despite the media message - but he's too old to go again. Are there other champions to pick up the mantel?

[J70]

I believe illegals who are law abiding (or who commit minor infractions) should be let go about their business in their interactions with the police.

I believe illegals should be allowed get drivers licenses.....they would at least know how to drive and be insured at the same time.

I believe that illegals who are already here and who have not committed any serious crime should be allowed to stay.

I believe that illegals who are involved in drugs, property crime, violence and drunk driving should be deported.

What happens is that ideas that start off as great and compassionate can often have unintended consequences:

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/penny-starr/mayor-adult-illegal-aliens-graying-hair-enrolled-public-schools

I'd love to see some of the über liberals in the wealthy Boston suburbs allow their kids go to school with grown men. Unfortunately it's the poorer neighborhoods who bear the brunt

Whitey I agree with most of your points in this post, but can't see how it leads you to vote GOP.

As for older people at school, surely there are bigger problems. If as you said earlier they were committing crimes, then get rid. But if they are law abiding and seeking education, then what harm?

I'm a registered Independent who leans Republicsn

The problem with older people registering as students is that the schools actually have no idea who is enrolling.  They could be violent felons or sex offenders for all we know. The unintended consequence of the way the law is written is the school cannot ask for proof of age or identification. I don't know about you, but I sure as hell want to know who is going into a school my kids are attending.

In the US, local property taxes are what funds the schools, so the taxpayers/property owners have both a right and a vested interest in ensuring that extra people who don't belong there are not enrolled....it takes resources from those who really need them.

I've no problem with most of what you've said in these posts, but you don't seem to be against the principle of sanctuary cities, just some of the details in how it is implemented.

The premise of a sanctuary city is fundamentally sound, but the unintended consequence is that violent and dangerous offenders are released back into the community to commit further crime.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33432197


Lets put the 15 M people who are already here illegally throough some type of naturalization process.  Everyone who is here, either legally or illegally needs to be set up to succeed and take advantage of all themopportunities this country has to offer

Where we probably will disagree is that while this process takes place, the southern border does need to be sealed.  You have to have some control over who comes and goes.

Got no problem with that either. Getting the necessary manpower and technology to patrol the border might mean an expansion of federal government though.

[Gmac]

See Obamas over getting some tips from his heroes the Castro brothers today.
Won't meet the Israeli pm but will fly to Cuba to meet these ,guys does anyone else think this is unreal.

[DuffleKing]

Are Cuba war mongerers or have they committed many crimes against humanity?

[heganboy]

See Obamas over getting some tips from his heroes the Castro brothers today.
Won't meet the Israeli pm but will fly to Cuba to meet these ,guys does anyone else think this is unreal.

Do you mean that it's unreal that a President of the US has the foresight to do both? absolutely, seems perfectly reasonable, smart even.

If you mean that it is unreal that the President of the USA is meeting the president of a neighboring country that it is re-establishing valuable trade and political links with the US? well, that seems perfectly reasonable- smart even.

That he is also not meeting the PM of a country that is arguing about the details of the 10 year multibillion defense aid agreement it is receiving from the US, and also interfered with the US international relationships and domestic security policy to try and collapse the US led international nuclear treaty with Iran? again, that seems perfectly reasonable- smart even

The fact that its because that PM declined to travel to the US to accept the President's invite for bilateral talks (but falsely blamed it on the president's schedule)- well that seems a bit daft of the PM of that small country roughly the size of half of ulster. And maybe unreal that the President would ask twice. After all he's not seeking re-election and can maybe use that fact on behalf of the US in those talks.

Glad to see you share your delight in such a public way...
Unreal indeed!

[Gmac]

Are Cuba war mongerers or have they committed many crimes against humanity?

Mostly On their own people and some in Angola and Ethiopia .

[Rossfan]

The Israel lovers are something else
The whole world is out of step with them.

[dec]

Won't meet the Israeli pm but will fly to Cuba to meet these ,guys does anyone else think this is unreal.

Sure

https://www.google.com/search?q=obama+netanyahu&num=100&tbm=isch

[seafoid]

The Israel lovers are something else
The whole world is out of step with them.

Netanyahu  is a grade A arsehole.  He went behind Obama 's back to speak to congress in 2011 and the GOP gave him 29 ovations. He bet the house on the GOP and now it has no voters. Now AIPAC has to invite Trump to its conference even though he has made antisemitic  statements. You couldn't make it up.

[whitey]

The Israel lovers are something else
The whole world is out of step with them.

Netanyahu  is a grade A arsehole.  He went behind Obama 's back to speak to congress in 2011 and the GOP gave him 29 ovations. He bet the house on the GOP and now it has no voters. Now AIPAC has to invite Trump to its conference even though he has made antisemitic  statements. You couldn't make it up.

What anti Semitic comments did he make?

(http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/262063-anti-defamation-league-defends-trumps-speech-to-jewish   )

[Gmac]

Obama got pissed with Netanyahu after he gave him a lecture in the Oval Office in front of the cameras and showed up Obama for the novice he was/is . He didn't want to meet him any more after that incident. What concessions have the Castro brothers made ? Released any political prisoners or any gestures at all. The president of the USA getting pictured with che Guevara in the background is not a good idea , he's not Gerry Adams  . The socialist mask is slipping because he has nothing to lose now .