The Many Faces of US Politics...

Started by Tyrones own, March 20, 2009, 09:29:14 PM

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Oraisteach

Joe, I think you're being a little dramatic yourself suggesting that anything I say will help his cause.  I talk to friends and made this one post on gaaboard.  I do wonder what American Dream he believes in.  The one where his dad gave him a mere million to get started.  Who wouldn't believe in that crazy dream.  He's such a megalomaniac that I see his latent totalitarian potential.  Trump's way, or you're FIRED or deported.  Yeah, I conceded that he's not the prototypical fascist, but he's showing a tendency.

J70

Quote from: foxcommander on January 07, 2016, 09:31:14 PM
Quote from: J70 on January 07, 2016, 08:57:41 PM
Maybe he is being genuine, but I think he has studied, seen an opening for a bigoted populist, and dived fully into the part. At the end of the day, his only cause is being elected president.

Like the Kenyan lad

Not remotely.

But go ahead and make your case.

And at least you scrubbed the bigotry from your description of Obama.

foxcommander

Quote from: J70 on January 08, 2016, 01:43:04 AM
Quote from: foxcommander on January 07, 2016, 09:31:14 PM
Quote from: J70 on January 07, 2016, 08:57:41 PM
Maybe he is being genuine, but I think he has studied, seen an opening for a bigoted populist, and dived fully into the part. At the end of the day, his only cause is being elected president.

Like the Kenyan lad

Not remotely.

But go ahead and make your case.

And at least you scrubbed the bigotry from your description of Obama.

That was a close one to be honest. Strikethrough won on a coin toss.
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

omaghjoe

Quote from: Oraisteach on January 08, 2016, 01:08:00 AM
Joe, I think you're being a little dramatic yourself suggesting that anything I say will help his cause.  I talk to friends and made this one post on gaaboard.  I do wonder what American Dream he believes in.  The one where his dad gave him a mere million to get started.  Who wouldn't believe in that crazy dream.  He's such a megalomaniac that I see his latent totalitarian potential.  Trump's way, or you're FIRED or deported.  Yeah, I conceded that he's not the prototypical fascist, but he's showing a tendency.
Wasnt refering to you in particular Oraisteach, was more talking the press and public opinion that want to label him with what is widely considered the most vile political ideology to ever come about.

Thing is I feel that it is a sort of compliment to label him with any political ideology. When his ramblings are all put together its incoherent, conflicting, and pure reactionary, the only ideology it remotely relates to is populism, or DailyMailism perhaps?

seafoid

Quote from: omaghjoe on January 08, 2016, 12:21:57 AM
As big of a fear monger Trump is I dont think you can label him with facisim

I dont think anyone who believes in the free market, the American dream etc etc could be called a facist. True he has certain traits in common with facists mainly populist tribalism, but that doesnt make him a facist as such.

He would appear to be opposed to totalitarianism and to be pro individualist as most American political ideologies (especially on the right) are, which are major tenets of facism. Throw in being one of the crassest proponents of the liberal market economy and youd have to say that he is defo not facist

Anyway idiot as he is, you can all him many things but throwing dramatic labels on him which aren't true will only help his cause.
the fascists worked hand in hand with business. They preferred slave labour but anything that shafted ordinary people worked.
Fascism is not just about uniforms

http://michaelrosenblog.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/fascism-i-sometimes-fear.html
"I sometimes fear that
people think that fascism arrives in fancy dress

worn by grotesques and monsters

as played out in endless re-runs of the Nazis.


Fascism arrives as your friend.

It will restore your honour,

make you feel proud,

protect your house,

give you a job,

clean up the neighbourhood,

remind you of how great you once were,

clear out the venal and the corrupt,

remove anything you feel is unlike you...


It doesn't walk in saying,

"Our programme means militias, mass imprisonments, transportations, war and persecution."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuDJ5aFDcd4

seafoid


foxcommander

Quote from: seafoid on January 08, 2016, 09:19:00 AM

It will restore your honour,

make you feel proud,

protect your house,

give you a job,

clean up the neighbourhood,

clear out the venal and the corrupt,


I fail to see the problem with the above. Isn't that what all governments should be striving towards.
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

stew

Quote from: Rossfan on January 07, 2016, 11:45:43 PM
Sounds like a certain Herr Hitler c1929........ :'(

Fack away aff Rossfan, that is the single dumbest thing I have ever read on here in 15 years, wise the f**k up ffs!
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

J70

Quote from: foxcommander on January 08, 2016, 01:25:32 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 08, 2016, 09:19:00 AM

It will restore your honour,

make you feel proud,

protect your house,

give you a job,

clean up the neighbourhood,

clear out the venal and the corrupt,


I fail to see the problem with the above. Isn't that what all governments should be striving towards.

Restoring honour, making you feel proud??

Giving you a job??

Aren't you a right winger?

screenexile

Quote from: foxcommander on January 08, 2016, 01:25:32 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 08, 2016, 09:19:00 AM

It will restore your honour,

make you feel proud,

protect your house,

give you a job,

clean up the neighbourhood,

clear out the venal and the corrupt,


I fail to see the problem with the above. Isn't that what all governments should be striving towards.

I thought you lads didn't want the Government involved in your lives??!!

foxcommander

Quote from: J70 on January 08, 2016, 01:57:28 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on January 08, 2016, 01:25:32 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 08, 2016, 09:19:00 AM

It will restore your honour,

make you feel proud,

protect your house,

give you a job,

clean up the neighbourhood,

clear out the venal and the corrupt,


I fail to see the problem with the above. Isn't that what all governments should be striving towards.

Restoring honour, making you feel proud??

Giving you a job??

Aren't you a right winger?

President Obama is greatest US president.
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

foxcommander

Quote from: screenexile on January 08, 2016, 02:04:28 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on January 08, 2016, 01:25:32 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 08, 2016, 09:19:00 AM

It will restore your honour,

make you feel proud,

protect your house,

give you a job,

clean up the neighbourhood,

clear out the venal and the corrupt,


I fail to see the problem with the above. Isn't that what all governments should be striving towards.

I thought you lads didn't want the Government involved in your lives??!!

I didn't mean you work for the government...christ no. More like the things your country can provide for it's citizens (through public and private enterprise).
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

foxcommander

Quote from: screenexile on January 08, 2016, 02:04:28 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on January 08, 2016, 01:25:32 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 08, 2016, 09:19:00 AM

It will restore your honour,

make you feel proud,

protect your house,

give you a job,

clean up the neighbourhood,

clear out the venal and the corrupt,


I fail to see the problem with the above. Isn't that what all governments should be striving towards.

I thought you lads didn't want the Government involved in your lives??!!

And what do you mean by "you lads" ??
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

screenexile

Quote from: foxcommander on January 08, 2016, 02:35:52 PM
Quote from: screenexile on January 08, 2016, 02:04:28 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on January 08, 2016, 01:25:32 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 08, 2016, 09:19:00 AM

It will restore your honour,

make you feel proud,

protect your house,

give you a job,

clean up the neighbourhood,

clear out the venal and the corrupt,


I fail to see the problem with the above. Isn't that what all governments should be striving towards.

I thought you lads didn't want the Government involved in your lives??!!

And what do you mean by "you lads" ??

Republicans!

foxcommander

Quote from: screenexile on January 08, 2016, 02:48:12 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on January 08, 2016, 02:35:52 PM
Quote from: screenexile on January 08, 2016, 02:04:28 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on January 08, 2016, 01:25:32 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 08, 2016, 09:19:00 AM

It will restore your honour,

make you feel proud,

protect your house,

give you a job,

clean up the neighbourhood,

clear out the venal and the corrupt,


I fail to see the problem with the above. Isn't that what all governments should be striving towards.

I thought you lads didn't want the Government involved in your lives??!!

And what do you mean by "you lads" ??

Republicans!

Thanks for the clarification. That could have gone a lot of different ways so wanted to be sure :D
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie