The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - #DankeJürgen

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AZOffaly

Enjoyable game. Loads of chances, and some good performances. But please, please stop calling Lucas the ultimate pro. He's an honest, hard worker, but an absolute air head. It's like clockwork.  He does a lot of good stuff, but you know, you just know, he is going to give away either a bad pass, a stupid free kick in a dangerous place, or a peno. He's unreal. And he's old enough to know better. I'd say if you looked inside his brain when he was hacking away at Jansen there, you'd see nothing but air.

The Stallion

Lucas is awful, always has been. Can't believe Klopp risked injury to Sturridge in such a pointless game.Should only be playing kids in an irrelevant competition like that.

mikehunt

Quote from: The Stallion on October 25, 2016, 10:28:46 PM
Lucas is awful, always has been. Can't believe Klopp risked injury to Sturridge in such a pointless game.Should only be playing kids in an irrelevant competition like that.
This is our year horsebox. Keep the faith.

ashman

Lads
 

Tis only an aul fcukin garrison game .

gawa316

Quote from: laoislad on October 25, 2016, 09:40:10 PM
Also,it was nice to see a team come to Anfield and attack a bit.....

Nice to see some clubs come to anfield with a but of ambition isn't it, even with their reserve team?

Good result tonight, important game time for some fringe players, youth getting their chance, Sturridge amongst the goals, rest for the first 11...well play Heir Klopp

J70

Quote from: AZOffaly on October 25, 2016, 10:23:50 PM
Enjoyable game. Loads of chances, and some good performances. But please, please stop calling Lucas the ultimate pro. He's an honest, hard worker, but an absolute air head. It's like clockwork.  He does a lot of good stuff, but you know, you just know, he is going to give away either a bad pass, a stupid free kick in a dangerous place, or a peno. He's unreal. And he's old enough to know better. I'd say if you looked inside his brain when he was hacking away at Jansen there, you'd see nothing but air.

And Jansen with his back to goal and all with two men immediately covering him.

Brainless.

gawa316

Quote from: J70 on October 26, 2016, 02:41:16 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 25, 2016, 10:23:50 PM
Enjoyable game. Loads of chances, and some good performances. But please, please stop calling Lucas the ultimate pro. He's an honest, hard worker, but an absolute air head. It's like clockwork.  He does a lot of good stuff, but you know, you just know, he is going to give away either a bad pass, a stupid free kick in a dangerous place, or a peno. He's unreal. And he's old enough to know better. I'd say if you looked inside his brain when he was hacking away at Jansen there, you'd see nothing but air.

And Jansen with his back to goal and all with two men immediately covering him.

Brainless.

Was it not lamela?

AZOffaly

Lamela, you're right. Jansen took the peno.

TabClear

No love for Lucas here! I thought he was excellent bar the pen which I thought was soft anyway.  Strong in the tackle, organised things and brought the ball out really well from the back. You have to rremember he's playing out of position.

Moreno actually played ok as well albeit his direct opponent was poor. His pace is exceptional if he could get his positional play sorted.

Anyway in the hat with 11 changes. Can't be bad.


AZOffaly

But that's the problem. Most of the time he is very solid, but there is always a 'but'. And that but normally leads either to a goal, or a heart stopping moment near the end of a game. I'd say he has given away, per minute on the field, the most free kicks 30 yards out on the left or right of the box. Prime crossing zone against a team that struggles to defend set pieces. It's mental, literally, as in it's a stupid mental error all the time with him. If they had been pegged back to 2-2 last night, I'd have sold him in January!

I like him, I like his effort, I like his honesty, I like his versatility, but I hate stupidity in players. Intelligence can go a long way, and he lacks that sort of basic intelligence that says, 'we're in control here, don't lunge in and give away a free'.

Hectic

Last night a good exercise between two reserve teams with the bonus of progression for Liverpool in what for me was a reasonable entertaining game. I would not read too much into individual performances as at times players did look like they were not used playing together though this did add to the value as a fair few chances were created at both ends from bad positional play. 

Thought the Spurs penalty was soft though I suppose between that and the incident just after they probably deserved a pen for one of them though I also thought Sturridge could have had a similar claim in the second half after an excellent turn before Worm cleared with his feet.  Young lad at full back lucky to stay on the pitch for his lunge on the Spurs full back though referee probably took his youth and the second string nature of the tie into consideration. 

All in I would imagine both sides will be content enough with the result - Liverpool have something to occupy them midweek while Spurs do not have something extra to fill up an already busy midweek schedule. 

Finally thought Anfield was in fine voice again in the context of the occasion - many supporters would show up for these games and just go through the motions but the Liverpool supporters were still there singing after the final whistle.

laoislad

Quote from: TabClear on October 26, 2016, 09:10:10 AM
No love for Lucas here! I thought he was excellent bar the pen which I thought was soft anyway.  Strong in the tackle, organised things and brought the ball out really well from the back. You have to rremember he's playing out of position.

Moreno actually played ok as well albeit his direct opponent was poor. His pace is exceptional if he could get his positional play sorted.

Anyway in the hat with 11 changes. Can't be bad.


When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

TabClear

Quote from: AZOffaly on October 26, 2016, 09:15:18 AM
But that's the problem. Most of the time he is very solid, but there is always a 'but'. And that but normally leads either to a goal, or a heart stopping moment near the end of a game. I'd say he has given away, per minute on the field, the most free kicks 30 yards out on the left or right of the box. Prime crossing zone against a team that struggles to defend set pieces. It's mental, literally, as in it's a stupid mental error all the time with him. If they had been pegged back to 2-2 last night, I'd have sold him in January!

I like him, I like his effort, I like his honesty, I like his versatility, but I hate stupidity in players. Intelligence can go a long way, and he lacks that sort of basic intelligence that says, 'we're in control here, don't lunge in and give away a free'.

fair points AZ. Only thing I would say is that part of the reason he gives away so many late frees is because he's the player who reads the game best or puts that extra effort in to be the man in the right place to challenge the player in possession. How many late attacks does he break up fairly? There is s reason why he's the club's longest serving player and has played under 5? managers and is not because of lack of options to move on.


AZOffaly

Quote from: laoislad on October 26, 2016, 09:45:19 AM
Quote from: TabClear on October 26, 2016, 09:10:10 AM
No love for Lucas here! I thought he was excellent bar the pen which I thought was soft anyway.  Strong in the tackle, organised things and brought the ball out really well from the back. You have to rremember he's playing out of position.

Moreno actually played ok as well albeit his direct opponent was poor. His pace is exceptional if he could get his positional play sorted.

Anyway in the hat with 11 changes. Can't be bad.



That wasn't the only time that happened. It was kamikaze at times, he is another that is prone to those stupid mental errors. And it's hard to coach intelligence.

TabClear

Quote from: AZOffaly on October 26, 2016, 09:48:49 AM
Quote from: laoislad on October 26, 2016, 09:45:19 AM
Quote from: TabClear on October 26, 2016, 09:10:10 AM
No love for Lucas here! I thought he was excellent bar the pen which I thought was soft anyway.  Strong in the tackle, organised things and brought the ball out really well from the back. You have to rremember he's playing out of position.

Moreno actually played ok as well albeit his direct opponent was poor. His pace is exceptional if he could get his positional play sorted.

Anyway in the hat with 11 changes. Can't be bad.



That wasn't the only time that happened. It was kamikaze at times, he is another that is prone to those stupid mental errors. And it's hard to coach intelligence.

Lol. Paolo Maldini he ain't but I thought he was ok last night.  I have no doubt that his remit from Klopp is to bomb on but commonsense would say that you have to change your mindset at the 87 minute mark.  Some players seem unable to do this though.

Reminds me of a player in our club. We have a lightening corner forward and the message from the manager to our half backs was as soon as you get the ball but a long diagonal into space in front of him.  So we were a point up, in injury time and were killing the game passing back and forth across the pitch.  Cue our no 7 getting the ball and bang, he tried the same ball he'd been told to all day.  Ball straight over sideline and they ended up working the equaliser from it.  ::)