Man Utd Thread:

nifan · August 21, 2009, 01:59:51 PM

Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 20, 2009, 06:41:51 PM
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"It's 20 years down the line and I don't believe it possible someone printing football shirts wouldn't know what the message meant.
That's complete nonsense.

True - it could easily have been some kid who wasnt even born when it happened, an immigrant worker who had never heard of the disaster etc.

The w**ker in this is the guy who paid to get such a thing printed - the motivation of the worker in the company is unknown.

RedandGreenSniper · August 22, 2009, 04:47:45 PM

Michael Owen off the mark. Four nil United. Rooney (2) and Berbatov. Three very good finishes.

milltown row · August 22, 2009, 04:50:54 PM

had Rooney score first utd to win two nill

better performance but a poor wigan team

stiffler · August 22, 2009, 04:53:39 PM

nani freekick 5-0

EC Unique · August 22, 2009, 04:54:05 PM

Fantastic reply to the freak result on Wednesday with all 3 of our strikers scoring. Rooney has the season of to a great start. Lets hope this gives the team much needed confidence going into the Arsenal game.

mountainboii · August 22, 2009, 05:01:52 PM

Wayne Rooney averaging a goal a game so far, that wouldn't be too far off Ronaldo standard

Norf Tyrone · August 22, 2009, 05:36:56 PM

Quote from: AFS on August 22, 2009, 05:01:52 PM
Wayne Rooney averaging a goal a game so far, that wouldn't be too far off Ronaldo standard

So if Rooney's goals are replacing Ronaldos, who is replacing Rooneys?

mountainboii · August 22, 2009, 06:19:51 PM

Quote from: Norf Tyrone on August 22, 2009, 05:36:56 PM
Quote from: AFS on August 22, 2009, 05:01:52 PM
Wayne Rooney averaging a goal a game so far, that wouldn't be too far off Ronaldo standard

So if Rooney's goals are replacing Ronaldos, who is replacing Rooneys?

Michael Owen

Norf Tyrone · August 22, 2009, 11:55:48 PM

Quote from: AFS on August 22, 2009, 06:19:51 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on August 22, 2009, 05:36:56 PM
Quote from: AFS on August 22, 2009, 05:01:52 PM
Wayne Rooney averaging a goal a game so far, that wouldn't be too far off Ronaldo standard

So if Rooney's goals are replacing Ronaldos, who is replacing Rooneys?

Michael Owen

Ok. So Rooney's goals replace Ronaldo's, and Owen's goals replace Rooneys, how will United do when refs actually apply the laws of the game and give mssrs Rooney, Vidic etc the red cards they are currently escaping?

magpie seanie · August 23, 2009, 12:13:10 AM

Just as rumours of United's demise were overstated midweek, I'm sure there will be an over reaction to this win today. Problems still remain but I think its fair to say United will not be far away when the league trophy is handed out, all things being equal. Very tough game next week but Vidic back this week was a major plus. Evra needs to be told where to direct his headers - was at the same shit once or twice today as cost United at Burnley. We got a small insight into Fergies brilliance as a manager today. Immediately te 3rd goal hit the net his first thought was "get Owen on - an ideal time for him to score". And so it happened and experienced and all as Owen is, you could see the relief on his face. The Owen deal was a no brainer even though United do need one more big player.

This Ronaldo argument is a bit funny but here's my take. Ronaldo "only" got 18 or 19 league goals last season his number of assists were not astronomical and his workrate (especially defensively) was crap. He is now gone so how will United make up for this? Rooney should get a couple more, already has 3. Owen will get close to what Rooney got last year. Berbatov will score around the same again and eveything else in the goals department should be similar. In terms of assists I think Valencia will get a pile. He has two already from 2 starts. He will make up for Ronaldo in this department PLUS he works back. So you can argue statistically that United will make up for his absence alright. However, what will perhaps be the biggestproblem is the effect Ronaldo had on opposition defences. He invariably tied up two or more players due to his threat. Valencia is very quick but not the same threat. The defence will need to be as mean as last year and if that'sthe case then maybe the unprecendented 4 in a row is on.

Minder · August 23, 2009, 12:56:55 AM

The oracle has spoken

stew · August 23, 2009, 01:33:48 AM

Quote from: magpie seanie on August 23, 2009, 12:13:10 AM
Just as rumours of United's demise were overstated midweek, I'm sure there will be an over reaction to this win today. Problems still remain but I think its fair to say United will not be far away when the league trophy is handed out, all things being equal. Very tough game next week but Vidic back this week was a major plus. Evra needs to be told where to direct his headers - was at the same shit once or twice today as cost United at Burnley. We got a small insight into Fergies brilliance as a manager today. Immediately te 3rd goal hit the net his first thought was "get Owen on - an ideal time for him to score". And so it happened and experienced and all as Owen is, you could see the relief on his face. The Owen deal was a no brainer even though United do need one more big player.

This Ronaldo argument is a bit funny but here's my take. Ronaldo "only" got 18 or 19 league goals last season his number of assists were not astronomical and his workrate (especially defensively) was crap. He is now gone so how will United make up for this? Rooney should get a couple more, already has 3. Owen will get close to what Rooney got last year. Berbatov will score around the same again and eveything else in the goals department should be similar. In terms of assists I think Valencia will get a pile. He has two already from 2 starts. He will make up for Ronaldo in this department PLUS he works back. So you can argue statistically that United will make up for his absence alright. However, what will perhaps be the biggestproblem is the effect Ronaldo had on opposition defences. He invariably tied up two or more players due to his threat. Valencia is very quick but not the same threat. The defence will need to be as mean as last year and if that'sthe case then maybe the unprecendented 4 in a row is on.

Chelsea will win the league, United will do well to finish third and city will be there at the death will tell us all that the big four is gone, Arse in fifth and the pool in sixth will signal the end of big four dominance.

I seriously doubt that fergie will ever take over from pools league wins but he does not have to, he closed the gap from eleven to zero and he is the worlds best in my eyes. Rafa is shite compared to him.

gorm agus bui · August 23, 2009, 01:48:19 AM

Quote from: Minder on August 23, 2009, 12:56:55 AM
The oracle has spoken

And you like all scouser supporters need to take that finger out of your hole

mountainboii · August 23, 2009, 02:46:57 AM

Quote from: stew on August 23, 2009, 01:33:48 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 23, 2009, 12:13:10 AM
Just as rumours of United's demise were overstated midweek, I'm sure there will be an over reaction to this win today. Problems still remain but I think its fair to say United will not be far away when the league trophy is handed out, all things being equal. Very tough game next week but Vidic back this week was a major plus. Evra needs to be told where to direct his headers - was at the same shit once or twice today as cost United at Burnley. We got a small insight into Fergies brilliance as a manager today. Immediately te 3rd goal hit the net his first thought was "get Owen on - an ideal time for him to score". And so it happened and experienced and all as Owen is, you could see the relief on his face. The Owen deal was a no brainer even though United do need one more big player.

This Ronaldo argument is a bit funny but here's my take. Ronaldo "only" got 18 or 19 league goals last season his number of assists were not astronomical and his workrate (especially defensively) was crap. He is now gone so how will United make up for this? Rooney should get a couple more, already has 3. Owen will get close to what Rooney got last year. Berbatov will score around the same again and eveything else in the goals department should be similar. In terms of assists I think Valencia will get a pile. He has two already from 2 starts. He will make up for Ronaldo in this department PLUS he works back. So you can argue statistically that United will make up for his absence alright. However, what will perhaps be the biggestproblem is the effect Ronaldo had on opposition defences. He invariably tied up two or more players due to his threat. Valencia is very quick but not the same threat. The defence will need to be as mean as last year and if that'sthe case then maybe the unprecendented 4 in a row is on.

Chelsea will win the league, United will do well to finish third and city will be there at the death will tell us all that the big four is gone, Arse in fifth and the pool in sixth will signal the end of big four dominance.

I seriously doubt that fergie will ever take over from pools league wins but he does not have to, he closed the gap from eleven to zero and he is the worlds best in my eyes. Rafa is shite compared to him.

Who's gonna finish 4th then?

full back · August 23, 2009, 08:35:19 AM

Good result after a first hafl which looked a bit like thr Burnley game

Rooney looking sharp - long may it continue

Rodallega (sp) made a fool of himself after the incident with Vidic. Whoever said Vidic deserved a red is talking shite.
Although dive of the day goes to Valencia who made a complete fool of himself going down clutching his face.
If he wants to replace Ronaldo, fair & well, but he would be as well playing like him as well as diving like him

Gooners at home next Saturday
Tough tough game, but I would expect a win if Utd are to challenge for honours this season

At the minute I still think we are missing a creative midfielder & really hopr Fergie signs someone before the window closes

At the moment Chelsea look the best team in the PL