Tyrone County Football and Hurling

Started by Fear ón Srath Bán, April 01, 2007, 05:58:31 PM

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ONeill

I think those who were there made plenty of noise; there just weren't enough of us.

It's worth a study.

Something happened post-2021 in terms of the supporter psyche. In the latter Harte years, there was a bit of staleness, but I don't think it's still a hangover of that.

I genuinely don't know why it is what it is.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

HokeyPokey

Quote from: ONeill on July 02, 2025, 10:30:37 PMI think those who were there made plenty of noise; there just weren't enough of us.

It's worth a study.

Something happened post-2021 in terms of the supporter psyche. In the latter Harte years, there was a bit of staleness, but I don't think it's still a hangover of that.

I genuinely don't know why it is what it is.

2021? I feel like supporters haven't came out in the same numbers post 2005, definitely post 2008/2009. It is odd as it's not due to lack of interest in football as club football is so strong and I'm sure most are well informed on the county team and not indifferent.

I know the dubs have fallen off big time (understandably) and the likes of Kildare maybe, but I think those are more casual, but I can't think of similar instances of it.

The county set up probably does need to do more. Even their social media stuff is inconsistent, not even always having the team up before a game.

Interested in other theories.

ONeill

Ah no that's not true. I remember 30000+ in 2016 when we won Ulster and Tyrone matched Donegal. The 2018 AI semi was the first time I saw the difference. Think it was around 50000 and Monaghan had the majority. 
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

DaleCooper

Could be expense and families being able to afford it.

It doesn't feel nice getting absolutely rinsed every time you go to Dublin. Rip off Republic

ONeill

I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Truthsayer

Quote from: ONeill on July 02, 2025, 11:02:03 PMThey don't earn more in Armagh.
I can't understand isnt far more younger people. When we were teens into 20s went by the bus loads... maybe all the TV coverage

GAA Club Fan

Club football on the Fri and Sun of the semi final doesn't help.
Very club centric in Tyrone.

omagh_gael

All counties are on a level playing field when it comes to the expense.

Armagh won the AI last year and their fan base appears to be even more intense this year. Our post 21 hangover doesn't hold water.

Our underage teams are flying, you'd think there'd be momentum built there. Having been to loads of u20s games this year we tended to be outnumbered there as well.

Club football is flying in the county which is deadly, are we starting to become the Derry of the GAA when club trumps county?

Even in the media there's an almost stale approach to Tyrone. Having listened to most of leading GAA podcasts last week and this week Itd not be exaggeration to say we took up about 5% of the conversation.

Strange times.

HokeyPokey

Support has been pretty bad at Omagh and when played nearby.

2ndstringsub

Fantastic news coming out yesterday evening off the back of being in an All Ireland Semi Final, any player for their clubs reserve team is now expected to definitely not enjoy themselves that weekend and definitely not stay in dublin after the game as they have a championship fixture to fulfill.

An absolute joke. If that's the level of consideration given to the reserve fixtures (league or championship) just call them off.

clarshack

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Quote from: HokeyPokey on July 02, 2025, 10:53:55 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 02, 2025, 10:30:37 PMI think those who were there made plenty of noise; there just weren't enough of us.

It's worth a study.

Something happened post-2021 in terms of the supporter psyche. In the latter Harte years, there was a bit of staleness, but I don't think it's still a hangover of that.

I genuinely don't know why it is what it is.

2021? I feel like supporters haven't came out in the same numbers post 2005, definitely post 2008/2009. It is odd as it's not due to lack of interest in football as club football is so strong and I'm sure most are well informed on the county team and not indifferent.

I know the dubs have fallen off big time (understandably) and the likes of Kildare maybe, but I think those are more casual, but I can't think of similar instances of it.

The county set up probably does need to do more. Even their social media stuff is inconsistent, not even always having the team up before a game.

Interested in other theories.

The semi-final of 2015:

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2015/0823/723054-kerry-v-tyrone/

"The Tyrone crowd, who significantly outnumbered their opposition"

Attendance was 53,044

https://munster.gaa.ie/event/0all-ireland-senior-football-championship-semi-final-kerry-v-tyrone/

The attendance at same stage four years later was down to 33,848

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2019/0811/1068238-kerry-come-alive-in-second-half-to-surge-past-tyrone/

So what happened between 2015 and 2019? for me it was the 2 defeats to Dublin in 2017 and 2018, especially the hammering in 2017. These defeats seemed to do a lot of damage to supporter morale at that time. Then in 2021 a lot of supporters probably happy enough to stay at home with Covid and the 3 subsequent seasons after the football produced by Tyrone was dire. So dire in fact that Saturday's game versus Dublin was only the second time Tyrone played championship football in Croke Park since the 2021 Final.
Maybe the Dublin victory will reignite passion among the Tyrone supporters and we get a good turnout on the 12th.


WT4E

I didn't think there where many Tyrone supporters there on Saturday at the start but when Tyrone surged at the end it seemed like we had alot more than i though.

tyrone08

Quote from: clarshack on July 03, 2025, 10:47:56 AM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on July 02, 2025, 10:53:55 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 02, 2025, 10:30:37 PMI think those who were there made plenty of noise; there just weren't enough of us.

It's worth a study.

Something happened post-2021 in terms of the supporter psyche. In the latter Harte years, there was a bit of staleness, but I don't think it's still a hangover of that.

I genuinely don't know why it is what it is.

2021? I feel like supporters haven't came out in the same numbers post 2005, definitely post 2008/2009. It is odd as it's not due to lack of interest in football as club football is so strong and I'm sure most are well informed on the county team and not indifferent.

I know the dubs have fallen off big time (understandably) and the likes of Kildare maybe, but I think those are more casual, but I can't think of similar instances of it.

The county set up probably does need to do more. Even their social media stuff is inconsistent, not even always having the team up before a game.

Interested in other theories.

The semi-final of 2015:

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2015/0823/723054-kerry-v-tyrone/

"The Tyrone crowd, who significantly outnumbered their opposition"

Attendance was 53,044

https://munster.gaa.ie/event/0all-ireland-senior-football-championship-semi-final-kerry-v-tyrone/

The attendance at same stage four years later was down to 33,848

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2019/0811/1068238-kerry-come-alive-in-second-half-to-surge-past-tyrone/

So what happened between 2015 and 2019? for me it was the 2 defeats to Dublin in 2017 and 2018, especially the hammering in 2017. These defeats seemed to do a lot of damage to supporter morale at that time. Then in 2021 a lot of supporters probably happy enough to stay at home with Covid and the 3 subsequent seasons after the football produced by Tyrone was dire. So dire in fact that Saturday's game versus Dublin was only the second time Tyrone played championship football in Croke Park since the 2021 Final.
Maybe the Dublin victory will reignite passion among the Tyrone supporters and we get a good turnout on the 12th.



For me its down to 2 main issues-

Pre 2021- Tyrone played some boring lateral football under last few years of Mickey. You knew you wouldnt get beat by much but you knew it wasnt going to be good enough against the top teams.

Post 2021- 4 years since AI win and we haven't put 2 good never mind great back to back performances together. Still haven't done this yet under Malachy either.

Over say last 8 years Tyrone football has not been great to watch or to get excited about bar 2021. No wonder fans dont want to spend massive money attending games. Hopefully we are starting to turn the corner and put that all behind us.

Sometimes it up to the team to bring supporters out. Much like Armagh last year and Kerry in the quarter finals.

HokeyPokey

Quote from: clarshack on July 03, 2025, 10:47:56 AM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on July 02, 2025, 10:53:55 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 02, 2025, 10:30:37 PMI think those who were there made plenty of noise; there just weren't enough of us.

It's worth a study.

Something happened post-2021 in terms of the supporter psyche. In the latter Harte years, there was a bit of staleness, but I don't think it's still a hangover of that.

I genuinely don't know why it is what it is.

2021? I feel like supporters haven't came out in the same numbers post 2005, definitely post 2008/2009. It is odd as it's not due to lack of interest in football as club football is so strong and I'm sure most are well informed on the county team and not indifferent.

I know the dubs have fallen off big time (understandably) and the likes of Kildare maybe, but I think those are more casual, but I can't think of similar instances of it.

The county set up probably does need to do more. Even their social media stuff is inconsistent, not even always having the team up before a game.

Interested in other theories.

The semi-final of 2015:

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2015/0823/723054-kerry-v-tyrone/

"The Tyrone crowd, who significantly outnumbered their opposition"

Attendance was 53,044

https://munster.gaa.ie/event/0all-ireland-senior-football-championship-semi-final-kerry-v-tyrone/

The attendance at same stage four years later was down to 33,848

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2019/0811/1068238-kerry-come-alive-in-second-half-to-surge-past-tyrone/

So what happened between 2015 and 2019? for me it was the 2 defeats to Dublin in 2017 and 2018, especially the hammering in 2017. These defeats seemed to do a lot of damage to supporter morale at that time. Then in 2021 a lot of supporters probably happy enough to stay at home with Covid and the 3 subsequent seasons after the football produced by Tyrone was dire. So dire in fact that Saturday's game versus Dublin was only the second time Tyrone played championship football in Croke Park since the 2021 Final.
Maybe the Dublin victory will reignite passion among the Tyrone supporters and we get a good turnout on the 12th.



Hmmm interesting... Were there other significant games on before or after? I think it was also in line with a general trend of football being not entertaining and the dubs dominating. Maybe misremembering. In my head I'm thinking of 2003 where there were 50-60k Tyrone supporters for the Kerry match.

The support has bounced back in other counties, but the trend seems to have continued with Tyrone? I felt some enthusiasm about MOR and the strong squad etc., but crowds still dismal.

Truthsayer

TBH I did expect more Tyrone supporters at the Dublin game. New manager, quarter-final and nothing like playing the Dubs.. memories of those great quarter-final occasions in 2005.. but wasn't like that at all. Dubs didn't bring same numbers as those days either.
Drawn game '05 when Dublin got the goal before half-time, I never heard noise like it in Croke Park.