Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[SpeculativeEffort]

Also, why a fullback line should be involved in kickouts is just something i can't grasp.

They're meant to be defenders ffs. Their job is to nullify attackers, not be auxiliary midfielders.

My point is that defenders are not even being allowed to defend. The kickout arc makes holding a good defensive position almost impossible.

Either stay inside arc in a zonal structure but miles from your man or follow out and leave no defensive structure. Both are terrible options for defenders.

If you cannot understand this basic point I'm not sure anybody should be taking your points seriously on the rule changes.

[Truthsayer]

The good old days... https://extra.ie/2024/10/16/sport/gaa/clare-gaa-ennistymon-eire-og-keepy-uppy
Video is there... 🤮

[SpeculativeEffort]

The good old days... https://extra.ie/2024/10/16/sport/gaa/clare-gaa-ennistymon-eire-og-keepy-uppy
Video is there... 🤮

Nobody is saying scrap all the new rules. They're saying it's still not quite right and needs adjustment.

3 up and solo go would have been enough to begin with. It was the blanket that caused most problems. 3v3 and solo go may have solved that.

[JoG2]

He'll hand it back next time

If he is allowed, boys like you should be on the Sunday Game, it was all shite now it's all wonderful, don't dare say any different.

I acknowledge there are still tweaks needed but you reap what you sew destroying our game for over 10 years, so don't be girning now as GAA football minds like Jim Gavin have the almost impossible job of fixing it.

Jim Gavin a part of that problem, no?https://hoganstand.com/Forum/Details/108122?County=National&PageNumber=0&TopicID=108122

Why would you be shooting from that far out and wasting possession 95% of the time?

[Truthsayer]

The good old days... https://extra.ie/2024/10/16/sport/gaa/clare-gaa-ennistymon-eire-og-keepy-uppy
Video is there... 🤮

Nobody is saying scrap all the new rules. They're saying it's still not quite right and needs adjustment.

3 up and solo go would have been enough to begin with. It was the blanket that caused most problems. 3v3 and solo go may have solved that.

I agree is not the finished article. Was a lot of exciting league games and there are comments here righting off the new rules and harking back to the good old years we had recently, after a few first round league games.
I think the kick out is good, is also onus on players to find space, not just high fielding which is great.
I'm not dying bout bringing ball up 50 yards, maybe 20 yards is enough, and while 2 pointers are an incentive putting a goal to 4 points might encourage teams to hunt goals. We're going in the right direction. It was a shambles in recent years so not easy fixed.

[thebigfullforward]

Tweaks that's a understatement, would any other sport put so many untested rules into their premier competitions. 

It was either that or disband    ffs! I fell asleep during last years All Ireland final before the last few minutes when the games started.
And club football was worse. Blame the coaches who ruined the game.

Club football was worse? As in the All Ireland SF and Final? Must be watching a different game

Do you go to club games or just watch those two on TV? Was one game a player doing keepy-uppsys in the middle of the field as there was no one bothered to come out and try and tackle him.

Have missed 3 club games that I can remember not including the covid year. Two of those I was working away from home, third was the last league game of the year. Complete dead rubber and 2 reserve teams out. The exact same can happen now in regards to the keepy uppys, there's no rules saying teams have to press up. That's down to managerial decisions. I'm sure in the next year we'll see coaches manipulate the rules to suit them unless we continue to change the rules until people like yourself are happy

[thebigfullforward]

He'll hand it back next time

If he is allowed, boys like you should be on the Sunday Game, it was all shite now it's all wonderful, don't dare say any different.

I acknowledge there are still tweaks needed but you reap what you sew destroying our game for over 10 years, so don't be girning now as GAA football minds like Jim Gavin have the almost impossible job of fixing it.

Jim Gavin a part of that problem, no?https://hoganstand.com/Forum/Details/108122?County=National&PageNumber=0&TopicID=108122

Why would you be shooting from that far out and wasting possession 95% of the time?

I wouldn't know either. Just find it funny how Gavin helped introduce the type of football ones were complaining about and now those same ones are praising him lol

[Truthsayer]

He'll hand it back next time

If he is allowed, boys like you should be on the Sunday Game, it was all shite now it's all wonderful, don't dare say any different.

I acknowledge there are still tweaks needed but you reap what you sew destroying our game for over 10 years, so don't be girning now as GAA football minds like Jim Gavin have the almost impossible job of fixing it.

Jim Gavin a part of that problem, no?https://hoganstand.com/Forum/Details/108122?County=National&PageNumber=0&TopicID=108122

Why would you be shooting from that far out and wasting possession 95% of the time?

I wouldn't know either. Just find it funny how Gavin helped introduce the type of football ones were complaining about and now those same ones are praising him lol

Because he worked within the rules but knew the whole thing was a shitshow. Murphy same...

[thebigfullforward]

He'll hand it back next time

If he is allowed, boys like you should be on the Sunday Game, it was all shite now it's all wonderful, don't dare say any different.

I acknowledge there are still tweaks needed but you reap what you sew destroying our game for over 10 years, so don't be girning now as GAA football minds like Jim Gavin have the almost impossible job of fixing it.

Jim Gavin a part of that problem, no?https://hoganstand.com/Forum/Details/108122?County=National&PageNumber=0&TopicID=108122

Why would you be shooting from that far out and wasting possession 95% of the time?

I wouldn't know either. Just find it funny how Gavin helped introduce the type of football ones were complaining about and now those same ones are praising him lol

Because he worked within the rules but knew the whole thing was a shitshow. Murphy same...

Same as Mickey Harte, Jim McGuinness and whoever else people give out about then...

[Truthsayer]

He'll hand it back next time

If he is allowed, boys like you should be on the Sunday Game, it was all shite now it's all wonderful, don't dare say any different.

I acknowledge there are still tweaks needed but you reap what you sew destroying our game for over 10 years, so don't be girning now as GAA football minds like Jim Gavin have the almost impossible job of fixing it.

Jim Gavin a part of that problem, no?https://hoganstand.com/Forum/Details/108122?County=National&PageNumber=0&TopicID=108122

Why would you be shooting from that far out and wasting possession 95% of the time?

I wouldn't know either. Just find it funny how Gavin helped introduce the type of football ones were complaining about and now those same ones are praising him lol

Because he worked within the rules but knew the whole thing was a shitshow. Murphy same...

Same as Mickey Harte, Jim McGuinness and whoever else people give out about then...

You're comparing Jim Gavin tactics to Jimmy McGuinness 🤣 McGuinness the bollox lit the fire.
Harte hadn't a clue what he was doing... got left behind bout 2010..

[David McKeown]

Tweaks that's a understatement, would any other sport put so many untested rules into their premier competitions. 

It was either that or disband    ffs! I fell asleep during last years All Ireland final before the last few minutes when the games started.
And club football was worse. Blame the coaches who ruined the game.

You should probably go back and watch it, it was a pretty decent game with multiple lead changes and some fine scores from both sides coupled with excellent defending

It was horrendous until the last 10 minutes or so... anyone who claims football was OK doesn't care about the game...

I thought you fell asleep? You are entitled to your opinion but i thought it was a pretty good match. Not brilliant but pretty good with some excellent scores and excellent defending. It was also on a knife edge throughout.

[thebigfullforward]

He'll hand it back next time

If he is allowed, boys like you should be on the Sunday Game, it was all shite now it's all wonderful, don't dare say any different.

I acknowledge there are still tweaks needed but you reap what you sew destroying our game for over 10 years, so don't be girning now as GAA football minds like Jim Gavin have the almost impossible job of fixing it.

Jim Gavin a part of that problem, no?https://hoganstand.com/Forum/Details/108122?County=National&PageNumber=0&TopicID=108122

Why would you be shooting from that far out and wasting possession 95% of the time?

I wouldn't know either. Just find it funny how Gavin helped introduce the type of football ones were complaining about and now those same ones are praising him lol

Because he worked within the rules but knew the whole thing was a shitshow. Murphy same...

Same as Mickey Harte, Jim McGuinness and whoever else people give out about then...

You're comparing Jim Gavin tactics to Jimmy McGuinness 🤣 McGuinness the bollox lit the fire.
Harte hadn't a clue what he was doing... got left behind bout 2010..

Where did I compare their tactics? If you could quote me word for word where I said that it would be much appreciated. You said "Because he (Jim Gavin) worked within the rules". I replied and said so did Mickey Harte and McGuinness. Jim Gavin had the whole thing about getting the best shot off. That's the only 2 points I made

[Truthsayer]

He'll hand it back next time

If he is allowed, boys like you should be on the Sunday Game, it was all shite now it's all wonderful, don't dare say any different.

I acknowledge there are still tweaks needed but you reap what you sew destroying our game for over 10 years, so don't be girning now as GAA football minds like Jim Gavin have the almost impossible job of fixing it.

Jim Gavin a part of that problem, no?https://hoganstand.com/Forum/Details/108122?County=National&PageNumber=0&TopicID=108122

Why would you be shooting from that far out and wasting possession 95% of the time?

I wouldn't know either. Just find it funny how Gavin helped introduce the type of football ones were complaining about and now those same ones are praising him lol

Because he worked within the rules but knew the whole thing was a shitshow. Murphy same...

Same as Mickey Harte, Jim McGuinness and whoever else people give out about then...

You're comparing Jim Gavin tactics to Jimmy McGuinness 🤣 McGuinness the bollox lit the fire.
Harte hadn't a clue what he was doing... got left behind bout 2010..

Where did I compare their tactics? If you could quote me word for word where I said that it would be much appreciated. You said "Because he (Jim Gavin) worked within the rules". I replied and said so did Mickey Harte and McGuinness. Jim Gavin had the whole thing about getting the best shot off. That's the only 2 points I made

You said "same as Harte & McGuinness".. thought you meant same style of play. I certainly wouldn't have wanted Harte or McGuinness anywhere near the committee came up with new rules 😒

[trueblue1234]

He'll hand it back next time

If he is allowed, boys like you should be on the Sunday Game, it was all shite now it's all wonderful, don't dare say any different.

I acknowledge there are still tweaks needed but you reap what you sew destroying our game for over 10 years, so don't be girning now as GAA football minds like Jim Gavin have the almost impossible job of fixing it.

Jim Gavin a part of that problem, no?https://hoganstand.com/Forum/Details/108122?County=National&PageNumber=0&TopicID=108122

Why would you be shooting from that far out and wasting possession 95% of the time?

I wouldn't know either. Just find it funny how Gavin helped introduce the type of football ones were complaining about and now those same ones are praising him lol

Because he worked within the rules but knew the whole thing was a shitshow. Murphy same...

Same as Mickey Harte, Jim McGuinness and whoever else people give out about then...

You're comparing Jim Gavin tactics to Jimmy McGuinness 🤣 McGuinness the bollox lit the fire.
Harte hadn't a clue what he was doing... got left behind bout 2010..

Where did I compare their tactics? If you could quote me word for word where I said that it would be much appreciated. You said "Because he (Jim Gavin) worked within the rules". I replied and said so did Mickey Harte and McGuinness. Jim Gavin had the whole thing about getting the best shot off. That's the only 2 points I made

You said "same as Harte & McGuinness".. thought you meant same style of play. I certainly wouldn't have wanted Harte or McGuinness anywhere near the committee came up with new rules 😒

There's a surprise. Thankfully I don't think they'll be asking your advice.

He'll hand it back next time

If he is allowed, boys like you should be on the Sunday Game, it was all shite now it's all wonderful, don't dare say any different.

I acknowledge there are still tweaks needed but you reap what you sew destroying our game for over 10 years, so don't be girning now as GAA football minds like Jim Gavin have the almost impossible job of fixing it.

Jim Gavin a part of that problem, no?https://hoganstand.com/Forum/Details/108122?County=National&PageNumber=0&TopicID=108122

Why would you be shooting from that far out and wasting possession 95% of the time?

I wouldn't know either. Just find it funny how Gavin helped introduce the type of football ones were complaining about and now those same ones are praising him lol

Because he worked within the rules but knew the whole thing was a shitshow. Murphy same...

Same as Mickey Harte, Jim McGuinness and whoever else people give out about then...

You're comparing Jim Gavin tactics to Jimmy McGuinness 🤣 McGuinness the bollox lit the fire.
Harte hadn't a clue what he was doing... got left behind bout 2010..

Where did I compare their tactics? If you could quote me word for word where I said that it would be much appreciated. You said "Because he (Jim Gavin) worked within the rules". I replied and said so did Mickey Harte and McGuinness. Jim Gavin had the whole thing about getting the best shot off. That's the only 2 points I made

His hatred for MH has tied him up in knots a bit here. It grates him that MH will always be considered one of the best managers in the GAA, especially within Tyrone.

[Truthsayer]

He'll hand it back next time

If he is allowed, boys like you should be on the Sunday Game, it was all shite now it's all wonderful, don't dare say any different.

I acknowledge there are still tweaks needed but you reap what you sew destroying our game for over 10 years, so don't be girning now as GAA football minds like Jim Gavin have the almost impossible job of fixing it.

Jim Gavin a part of that problem, no?https://hoganstand.com/Forum/Details/108122?County=National&PageNumber=0&TopicID=108122

Why would you be shooting from that far out and wasting possession 95% of the time?

I wouldn't know either. Just find it funny how Gavin helped introduce the type of football ones were complaining about and now those same ones are praising him lol

Because he worked within the rules but knew the whole thing was a shitshow. Murphy same...

Same as Mickey Harte, Jim McGuinness and whoever else people give out about then...

You're comparing Jim Gavin tactics to Jimmy McGuinness 🤣 McGuinness the bollox lit the fire.
Harte hadn't a clue what he was doing... got left behind bout 2010..

Where did I compare their tactics? If you could quote me word for word where I said that it would be much appreciated. You said "Because he (Jim Gavin) worked within the rules". I replied and said so did Mickey Harte and McGuinness. Jim Gavin had the whole thing about getting the best shot off. That's the only 2 points I made

You said "same as Harte & McGuinness".. thought you meant same style of play. I certainly wouldn't have wanted Harte or McGuinness anywhere near the committee came up with new rules 😒

There's a surprise. Thankfully I don't think they'll be asking your advice.

He'll hand it back next time

If he is allowed, boys like you should be on the Sunday Game, it was all shite now it's all wonderful, don't dare say any different.

I acknowledge there are still tweaks needed but you reap what you sew destroying our game for over 10 years, so don't be girning now as GAA football minds like Jim Gavin have the almost impossible job of fixing it.

Jim Gavin a part of that problem, no?https://hoganstand.com/Forum/Details/108122?County=National&PageNumber=0&TopicID=108122

Why would you be shooting from that far out and wasting possession 95% of the time?

I wouldn't know either. Just find it funny how Gavin helped introduce the type of football ones were complaining about and now those same ones are praising him lol

Because he worked within the rules but knew the whole thing was a shitshow. Murphy same...

Same as Mickey Harte, Jim McGuinness and whoever else people give out about then...

You're comparing Jim Gavin tactics to Jimmy McGuinness 🤣 McGuinness the bollox lit the fire.
Harte hadn't a clue what he was doing... got left behind bout 2010..

Where did I compare their tactics? If you could quote me word for word where I said that it would be much appreciated. You said "Because he (Jim Gavin) worked within the rules". I replied and said so did Mickey Harte and McGuinness. Jim Gavin had the whole thing about getting the best shot off. That's the only 2 points I made

His hatred for MH has tied him up in knots a bit here. It grates him that MH will always be considered one of the best managers in the GAA, especially within Tyrone.

Was brilliant till about 2010 then got left behind. If you want to worship at his altar go right ahead, you'll find as many in Tyrone have same view as me. On the plus side he did take the middle out of the Derry project!