Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

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flowerpot

Quote from: Rossfan on April 18, 2025, 09:40:53 AM
Quote from: flowerpot on April 18, 2025, 08:53:37 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 18, 2025, 08:23:44 AMShort kick out followed by slow crab like handpassing bored spectators to sleep leading to the FRC.......


The lottery of who gets the breaking ball is edge of the seat stuff.
It actually is.

Some skillset that.  It's akin to a snooker player whacking into the reds not a clue where they will go but hoping for a result.

flowerpot

Quote from: Rossfan on April 18, 2025, 09:59:01 AMHe'll hand it back next time ;)

If he is allowed, boys like you should be on the Sunday Game, it was all shite now it's all wonderful, don't dare say any different.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: thebigfullforward on April 18, 2025, 09:46:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2025, 08:46:34 AMNo, people would much prefer the cagy 0-5 to 0-4 game where teams played everyone behind he ball, they were much more interesting
I love watching teams score 2 points because a player didn't hand the ball back to the player that was deemed closest to him

Thems the rules, seems there is some sort of mental block in understanding that. Until it changes that's what's happening. I'm not sure why it's not happening in the game you watched unless the lads haven't been taught it.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Truthsayer

Quote from: flowerpot on April 18, 2025, 10:03:14 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 18, 2025, 09:59:01 AMHe'll hand it back next time ;)

If he is allowed, boys like you should be on the Sunday Game, it was all shite now it's all wonderful, don't dare say any different.
I acknowledge there are still tweaks needed but you reap what you sew destroying our game for over 10 years, so don't be girning now as GAA football minds like Jim Gavin have the almost impossible job of fixing it.

thebigfullforward

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2025, 10:28:54 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on April 18, 2025, 09:46:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2025, 08:46:34 AMNo, people would much prefer the cagy 0-5 to 0-4 game where teams played everyone behind he ball, they were much more interesting
I love watching teams score 2 points because a player didn't hand the ball back to the player that was deemed closest to him

Thems the rules, seems there is some sort of mental block in understanding that. Until it changes that's what's happening. I'm not sure why it's not happening in the game you watched unless the lads haven't been taught it.
Exactly the same as the old rules then. Ones complaining about low scoring, possession based football, handpassing, delaying the game to a certain degree (Comerford after saving the pen), keepers being brought forward. All allowed within the rules of the game yet you still had ones complaining about it

flowerpot

Tweaks that's a understatement, would any other sport put so many untested rules into their premier competitions. 

Truthsayer

#2511
Quote from: flowerpot on April 18, 2025, 10:55:59 AMTweaks that's a understatement, would any other sport put so many untested rules into their premier competitions. 
It was either that or disband  :D  ffs! I fell asleep during last years All Ireland final before the last few minutes when the games started.
And club football was worse. Blame the coaches who ruined the game.

flowerpot


David McKeown

Quote from: Truthsayer on April 18, 2025, 11:06:10 AM
Quote from: flowerpot on April 18, 2025, 10:55:59 AMTweaks that's a understatement, would any other sport put so many untested rules into their premier competitions. 
It was either that or disband  :D  ffs! I fell asleep during last years All Ireland final before the last few minutes when the games started.
And club football was worse. Blame the coaches who ruined the game.

You should probably go back and watch it, it was a pretty decent game with multiple lead changes and some fine scores from both sides coupled with excellent defending
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thebigfullforward

Quote from: Truthsayer on April 18, 2025, 10:52:31 AM
Quote from: flowerpot on April 18, 2025, 10:03:14 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 18, 2025, 09:59:01 AMHe'll hand it back next time ;)

If he is allowed, boys like you should be on the Sunday Game, it was all shite now it's all wonderful, don't dare say any different.
I acknowledge there are still tweaks needed but you reap what you sew destroying our game for over 10 years, so don't be girning now as GAA football minds like Jim Gavin have the almost impossible job of fixing it.
Jim Gavin a part of that problem, no?https://hoganstand.com/Forum/Details/108122?County=National&PageNumber=0&TopicID=108122

thebigfullforward

Quote from: Truthsayer on April 18, 2025, 11:06:10 AM
Quote from: flowerpot on April 18, 2025, 10:55:59 AMTweaks that's a understatement, would any other sport put so many untested rules into their premier competitions. 
It was either that or disband  :D  ffs! I fell asleep during last years All Ireland final before the last few minutes when the games started.
And club football was worse. Blame the coaches who ruined the game.
Club football was worse? As in the All Ireland SF and Final? Must be watching a different game

thewobbler

Quote from: flowerpot on April 18, 2025, 08:50:45 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on April 17, 2025, 10:50:54 PMAlso, why a fullback line should be involved in kickouts is just something i can't grasp.

They're meant to be defenders ffs. Their job is to nullify attackers, not be auxiliary midfielders.

You really are going back in time, everyone stand in their position, should defenders not be scoring, attackers not be defending, the game has evolved there is no defined positions now, even for the keeper.  Full backs can go up field under these rules and compete for the kickout, why is there an issue with them breaking into free space taking a quick ball from the keeper and starting an attack.

I think you'll find that in nearly every instance of every rule change, in every sport, in the history of the world, the reason for the rule change is to go "back in time".

Coaches find ways to take advantage of the rules. Other coaches copy. Game becomes boring. Rule makers intervene. Then we go again.

I mean following your daft logic, then soccer keepers should be able to pick up back passes as some of them had made an art form of it in the early 1990s. Daft. Completely f**king daft.


thebigfullforward

Quote from: thewobbler on April 18, 2025, 12:27:34 PM
Quote from: flowerpot on April 18, 2025, 08:50:45 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on April 17, 2025, 10:50:54 PMAlso, why a fullback line should be involved in kickouts is just something i can't grasp.

They're meant to be defenders ffs. Their job is to nullify attackers, not be auxiliary midfielders.

You really are going back in time, everyone stand in their position, should defenders not be scoring, attackers not be defending, the game has evolved there is no defined positions now, even for the keeper.  Full backs can go up field under these rules and compete for the kickout, why is there an issue with them breaking into free space taking a quick ball from the keeper and starting an attack.

I think you'll find that in nearly every instance of every rule change, in every sport, in the history of the world, the reason for the rule change is to go "back in time".

Coaches find ways to take advantage of the rules. Other coaches copy. Game becomes boring. Rule makers intervene. Then we go again.

I mean following your daft logic, then soccer keepers should be able to pick up back passes as some of them had made an art form of it in the early 1990s. Daft. Completely f**king daft.


What about the NBA? Can't stand in the paint for more than 3 consecutive seconds, can't post someone up for more than 5 seconds, however many rules they brought in to limit Wilt. They enhanced the game from watching 2 big men fight it out in the paint every possession. Back 20 years ago C would be crucified for taking a 3 but the players and coaches adapted and now every team has a big that can shoot. We developed from keepers being scared of touching the ball in open play to keepers scoring from play. That's called development. Every sport goes through rough spells. No other sport changes the rules this drastically because of a few years where the score wasn't as high as it was in the 70's

Truthsayer

Quote from: David McKeown on April 18, 2025, 12:09:02 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on April 18, 2025, 11:06:10 AM
Quote from: flowerpot on April 18, 2025, 10:55:59 AMTweaks that's a understatement, would any other sport put so many untested rules into their premier competitions. 
It was either that or disband  :D  ffs! I fell asleep during last years All Ireland final before the last few minutes when the games started.
And club football was worse. Blame the coaches who ruined the game.

You should probably go back and watch it, it was a pretty decent game with multiple lead changes and some fine scores from both sides coupled with excellent defending
It was horrendous until the last 10 minutes or so... anyone who claims football was OK doesn't care about the game...

Truthsayer

#2519
Quote from: thebigfullforward on April 18, 2025, 12:18:59 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on April 18, 2025, 11:06:10 AM
Quote from: flowerpot on April 18, 2025, 10:55:59 AMTweaks that's a understatement, would any other sport put so many untested rules into their premier competitions. 
It was either that or disband  :D  ffs! I fell asleep during last years All Ireland final before the last few minutes when the games started.
And club football was worse. Blame the coaches who ruined the game.
Club football was worse? As in the All Ireland SF and Final? Must be watching a different game
Do you go to club games or just watch those two on TV? Was one game a player doing keepy-uppsys in the middle of the field as there was no one bothered to come out and try and tackle him.