Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[Truthsayer]

Is this what people really want? Utter incompetence from teams and referees glorified because it's dramatic? Lowest common denominator for idiots.

That game ended up close. The football played was, by and large, disgracefully bad.

You're following the wrong sport if you don't think that was good...and it bucketing. Better than good, a great game.

[thebigfullforward]

Anyone know why that was brought forward for Cork?

[gallsman]

Clifford probably said something as he was clearly remonstrating about the throw ball being called.

Bizarre set of circumstances though. Cork tried to take free about 30 yards on from where it took place, called back, next thing it was moved forward, and an awful lot more than 50m from where the foul took place.

[Rossfan]

Is this what people really want? Utter incompetence from teams and referees glorified because it's dramatic? Lowest common denominator for idiots.

That game ended up close. The football played was, by and large, disgracefully bad.

You're following the wrong sport if you don't think that was good...and it bucketing. Better than good, a great game.

Absolutely.
The moany brigade are gone beyond painful at this stage.

[Truthsayer]

Is this what people really want? Utter incompetence from teams and referees glorified because it's dramatic? Lowest common denominator for idiots.

That game ended up close. The football played was, by and large, disgracefully bad.

You're following the wrong sport if you don't think that was good...and it bucketing. Better than good, a great game.

Absolutely.
The moany brigade are gone beyond painful at this stage.

Insufferable - their default position is negative.

[JoG2]

Is this what people really want? Utter incompetence from teams and referees glorified because it's dramatic? Lowest common denominator for idiots.

That game ended up close. The football played was, by and large, disgracefully bad.

You're following the wrong sport if you don't think that was good...and it bucketing. Better than good, a great game.

Absolutely.
The moany brigade are gone beyond painful at this stage.

Insufferable - their default position is negative.

Is this what people really want? Utter incompetence from teams and referees glorified because it's dramatic? Lowest common denominator for idiots.

That game ended up close. The football played was, by and large, disgracefully bad.

You're following the wrong sport if you don't think that was good...and it bucketing. Better than good, a great game.

Absolutely.
The moany brigade are gone beyond painful at this stage.

Superb contest

[flowerpot]

Turkey shoot.

[EoinW]

Is this what people really want? Utter incompetence from teams and referees glorified because it's dramatic? Lowest common denominator for idiots.

That game ended up close. The football played was, by and large, disgracefully bad.

You're following the wrong sport if you don't think that was good...and it bucketing. Better than good, a great game.

Absolutely.
The moany brigade are gone beyond painful at this stage.

Insufferable - their default position is negative.

What do you expect?  The game has been turned upside down.  Traditionalists are never going to accept this.  They've every right to moan.

It can be very entertaining, however it really is chaotic.  I remember when I was young: the Harlem Globetrotters, Roller Derby and Wrestling were very entertaining.  However no one considered them to be a serious sport.

Just because it's entertaining, just because the footballers can outscore the hurlers, doesn't mean it's the best thing for the game.

[Truthsayer]

Is this what people really want? Utter incompetence from teams and referees glorified because it's dramatic? Lowest common denominator for idiots.

That game ended up close. The football played was, by and large, disgracefully bad.

You're following the wrong sport if you don't think that was good...and it bucketing. Better than good, a great game.

Absolutely.
The moany brigade are gone beyond painful at this stage.

Insufferable - their default position is negative.

What do you expect?  The game has been turned upside down.  Traditionalists are never going to accept this.  They've every right to moan.

It can be very entertaining, however it really is chaotic.  I remember when I was young: the Harlem Globetrotters, Roller Derby and Wrestling were very entertaining.  However no one considered them to be a serious sport.

Just because it's entertaining, just because the footballers can outscore the hurlers, doesn't mean it's the best thing for the game.

There actually is no debating with that level of negativity... traditionalists from what era? 70s was different from 80s and 90s.. the '00s was different again and probably the best... then came the steady decline of the game post 2010.
It was brilliant game.
You really thought wrestling and Harlem Globe Trotters was entertaining ? .. jees! 🤕      ...I don't know what Roller Derby is!!

[thewobbler]

It's been a tough weekend so far for the "football wasn't broken" contrarians.

They could really do with a blowout game today.

[marty34]

Super game last night.

Loving the tap and go especially. Speeds things up and now there's no player holding on to he ball after a free and then the silly wrestling starts.

I like the hooter also. Teams played on until the ball went dead. Easy for players and supporters to understand it. Adds to excitement a good bit if a team only 1pt down.

Great stuff in Cork last night. 

[thebigfullforward]

Is this what people really want? Utter incompetence from teams and referees glorified because it's dramatic? Lowest common denominator for idiots.

That game ended up close. The football played was, by and large, disgracefully bad.

You're following the wrong sport if you don't think that was good...and it bucketing. Better than good, a great game.

Absolutely.
The moany brigade are gone beyond painful at this stage.

Insufferable - their default position is negative.

Had to listen to it for well over a decade. I'm sure you can manage listening to it for a bit as well

[EoinW]

It's been a tough weekend so far for the "football wasn't broken" contrarians.

They could really do with a blowout game today.

I can see the Instant Gratification people will never get it.  You know, the I'm bored, change the game or else crowd.  It isn't about what happens on any given weekend.  The big picture is the 130 year tradition.

Only one sport has ever done a major overhaul prior to this Gaelic football experiment.  That was curling in the 1990s.  It was forced to because changes in equipment and ice technology had made the game too defensive.  The important thing is that Curling got it right.  There was just one rule change(not dozens!) and it reestablished the balance between offence and defence.

In other words, if the FRC are going to make a major change to the game they had better know in advance what they are doing and they had better get it right.  Yet they said from the get go that they'd try it out then tweek things.  So they are flying blind.  Thus it's no surprise we've gone from defence having an edge to no defence at all!  They screwed it up and will have to make countless rule changes in the near future to try and reestablish some balance.

But the Bored Crowd were entertained yesterday so everything is just peachy.

[EoinW]

One other problem: you are allowing a small committee to have complete say over the entire game.  It appears they've been given carte blanche to do whatever they like.  Is there any time limit to FRC activities or is their dictatorial power over the game open ended?

Thus the goal is more entertainment and more action.  The FRC believes Kerry hitting long balls to David Clifford to be good for the game...which is fine.  When Ethan Rafferty, and other Ulster goalkeepers, run riot through opposing defences the FRC suddenly isn't interested in more excitement and scoring and put a stop to it.  You see the problem?  The FRC is picking winners and losers.

No major sport has ever overhauled its entire game like the GAA has just done.  Normally it's one rule change, to test the waters, then another and so on.  The National Football League has been desperate to get more offence into its game.  Every rule change going back to the 1970s has been in favour of the offence and to handicap the defence.  They've finally accomplished what they wanted: all offence, all passing and all action.  What the NFL took decades to do, the GAA is trying to do in months.  Football traditionalists will tell you both organisations have one goal: to destroy the offence-defence balance.  In other words, ruin the game.

I'm not trying to say who is right or wrong.  Obviously I'm in the camp of the traditionalists but that doesn't mean I'm right.  I'm simply trying to point out that a sport with the history and tradition of Gaelic football needs to mind that history and tradition and keep an eye on the long term consequences of any changes.

The moment you open Pandora's Box and allow so many changes at once, you open the door to endless changes.  Isn't that a slippery slope?

[Truthsayer]

There is a bizarre yearning here to return to the game of chess foisted on us the last few years by coaches who don't care about Gaelic football, just their CVs. I suspect the critics are too proud to admit they were wrong and the game has been saved. Sup it up, we ain't going back...