Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[thewobbler]

There is very little skill when it is more often than not spilled, there is more skill in in my opinion with a team working the ball up and the opposition trying to stop it than 4 or 5 lads crashing into each other spilling a ball. Before the mass defence there were defined positions, a long ball was usually competed for by midfielders now its just a mass of bodies crashing into one another.

Yes but your opinion is entirely clouded because of Armagh's most recent successful season. Same as Donegal ones a decade ago, Dublin ones for the best part of a decade, Derry ones a couple of seasons ago.

It's only when your team stops being successful that you can be objective about how absolutely f**king awful football had become under the old rules.

[flowerpot]

Ah come on now Armagh has won 2 All Irelands in their history you really think their success last year is clouding my opinion, seriously!!! I point out 2 rules I think aren't fit for purpose the 2 pointer from moving in a free and the kick out having to go over an arch, the tap and go, no room for dissent, 3 up all have improved the game.

[flowerpot]

Bet the ref walked off the field with the chest pumped out!

Gone do the refs courses and show them how it's done sure... Dose

LMAO - your 6720 posts all must come from being fully qualified for every topic.

[Milltown Row2]

Bet the ref walked off the field with the chest pumped out!

If I was the manager of that team, that mentor would have been at his last game for that side, proper stupidity

But sure you have a go at the ref, brainless

[Armagh18]

The arch should go completely, keepers should be able to do short kick outs, if the opposition don't want them to do that they press up, all we are getting is hoofs down to the side or middle and balls spilling, brings nothing to the game.  There is no skill with 4 or 5 lads jumping for the same ball all similar size and build.

Agree. Solo and go is the best of the rules. 3 up is good in theory but doesn't work.

[flowerpot]

I don't understand why we need a £6000 hooter for club games or lower division league games. Surely ref can blow the final whistle which indicates last play? He/she then blows again when ball goes out of play for end of match. It's not rocket science.
Was at an underage game last night, away team had a close in free and one of the their mentors let a roar out of him - 'that's a f**king black card'(which it should have been, and I'm 90% sure the ref was about to produce a black). Ref promptly put his cards back in his pocket and marched to the other end and gave the home team a 13m free. That put an end to the mouthing. Pretty funny too.

This is the post I read, an outburst from a mentor with no verbal abuse towards the ref, he could have been shouting to the sky for all we know but hey the experts on here are many and so well informed.

[Milltown Row2]

I don't understand why we need a £6000 hooter for club games or lower division league games. Surely ref can blow the final whistle which indicates last play? He/she then blows again when ball goes out of play for end of match. It's not rocket science.
Was at an underage game last night, away team had a close in free and one of the their mentors let a roar out of him - 'that's a f**king black card'(which it should have been, and I'm 90% sure the ref was about to produce a black). Ref promptly put his cards back in his pocket and marched to the other end and gave the home team a 13m free. That put an end to the mouthing. Pretty funny too.

This is the post I read, an outburst from a mentor with no verbal abuse towards the ref, he could have been shouting to the sky for all we know but hey the experts on here are many and so well informed.

First off, they won the free, a close in free and from being a point up they lost that by a mentor, who is well informed on what they say on the line will have a bearing on decisions made by the ref, its to stamp out dickheads on the line from shouting off their mouth.

He roared it out, and if you think he was just shouting it to the sky then you're just being obtuse. He'll not do it again and the ref won't have to 'puff out his chest' and move the ball the other direction.

As you have said, you weren't there but making assumptions and not as informed as the poster who was there

[trueblue1234]

What is the correct punishment for someone outside of players shouting abuse? Should he not have carded the mentor?

[Milltown Row2]

What is the correct punishment for someone outside of players shouting abuse? Should he not have carded the mentor?

He should have, yellow card and free on the 21 in front of goal

[trueblue1234]

Cheers. Didn't actual know that the ref could move the free/ reverse a free for anything other than player actions. Always thought correct action was yellow card/ red card Mentor and continue with game.
Every day a school day.

[Fr. Cyril McDuff]

I don't understand why we need a £6000 hooter for club games or lower division league games. Surely ref can blow the final whistle which indicates last play? He/she then blows again when ball goes out of play for end of match. It's not rocket science.
Was at an underage game last night, away team had a close in free and one of the their mentors let a roar out of him - 'that's a f**king black card'(which it should have been, and I'm 90% sure the ref was about to produce a black). Ref promptly put his cards back in his pocket and marched to the other end and gave the home team a 13m free. That put an end to the mouthing. Pretty funny too.

This is the post I read, an outburst from a mentor with no verbal abuse towards the ref, he could have been shouting to the sky for all we know but hey the experts on here are many and so well informed.

First off, they won the free, a close in free and from being a point up they lost that by a mentor, who is well informed on what they say on the line will have a bearing on decisions made by the ref, its to stamp out dickheads on the line from shouting off their mouth.

He roared it out, and if you think he was just shouting it to the sky then you're just being obtuse. He'll not do it again and the ref won't have to 'puff out his chest' and move the ball the other direction.

As you have said, you weren't there but making assumptions and not as informed as the poster who was there

The mentor in question was doing the line over beside where the free was, so there was no question who was shouting and that he was shouting at the ref. The ref's problem, he said after, was the bad language used at an underage game. It was a minor enough incident (the language used wasn't anything particularly terrible or out of the ordinary - 'f**k sake, that's a f**king black card' or something along those lines). The free reversal was a clear turning point in the game. Lesson learned for any mentors/coaches who were there.
Not sure if he should have carded the mentor tbh, I'm not a ref, but does a yellow card matter in any way to a mentor? A 13m is a far bigger deterrent than a card.

[mrdeeds]

At an u18 game last night and ref gave two points for keeper tapping over and then allowed to frees to go back to keeper as he said was ok on frees.

[Blowitupref]

I see this happening a lot at inter county and club level whereby the kicker knocks the ball backwards to an unmarked player to create the opportunity for a two pointer.

[Truthsayer]

Starting to look like McGuinness, Harte and all the county, club and college coaches that copied them have left the game unfixable...

[johnnycool]

What is the correct punishment for someone outside of players shouting abuse? Should he not have carded the mentor?

He should have, yellow card and free on the 21 in front of goal

So what would have happened if the opposing mentors had shouted "that's a fúcking yellow card ref"?

Would the ref have marched the ball back up the field?