Antrim Football Thread

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Gaels1789

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2025, 01:16:59 PMWhen someone says words like are you fecking blind, I'm going to go with dissent, now you can look up as many English dictionaries as you like, I know the difference from someone informing me or giving off.

I'm watching play and if I turn round for every call be it correct or incorrect as it has been for many occasions then I could miss out on something else.

As for mics no, some county referees have their own and umpires ain't best placed to see the lines at midfield especially some pitches and I'm a lot closer are pretty faint
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2025, 01:16:59 PMWhen someone says words like are you fecking blind, I'm going to go with dissent, now you can look up as many English dictionaries as you like, I know the difference from someone informing me or giving off.

I'm watching play and if I turn round for every call be it correct or incorrect as it has been for many occasions then I could miss out on something else.

As for mics no, some county referees have their own and umpires ain't best placed to see the lines at midfield especially some pitches and I'm a lot closer are pretty faint



I feel like the refs are being completely hung out to dry with these rules how can a ref see everything on the pitch at the same time, a lines man or umpire is needed at all games but there simply isn't enough officials in most county's

Would ye whist

Fair enough MR2, I have seen it suggested that the half way line and the 40m arc in a different colour might help the refs, thoughts?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Would ye whist on April 08, 2025, 01:41:49 PMFair enough MR2, I have seen it suggested that the half way line and the 40m arc in a different colour might help the refs, thoughts?

Possibly, seems like a decent idea but I hate to harp on about it but I've seen too many examples of calls being made when players are one step over the line, not the 4 meters or interfering with play to constantly be looking over my should to count 4 defenders 3 attackers.

I'd one in a game which nearly resulted in one team losing over the back of a miss call because players and officials were calling for a player over the halfway line, I blew the whistle and it ended up the lad was over at his sideline getting a drink, that team went up and nearly got a goal from it and it was a wrong call

People think that its shouldnt be difficult and if a sideline is informing you then you should take their word for it.. And this isn't me having a go of course just highlighting that its fine for people to say its hard on refs but then still expecting them to be like owls on the pitch lol

ah if refereeing was so easy I'd just get a t umpires chair like in tennis and just plant it in the middle of the sideline, sure that's were most of the calls are called lol
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BigGreenField

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2025, 01:53:26 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 08, 2025, 01:41:49 PMFair enough MR2, I have seen it suggested that the half way line and the 40m arc in a different colour might help the refs, thoughts?

Possibly, seems like a decent idea but I hate to harp on about it but I've seen too many examples of calls being made when players are one step over the line, not the 4 meters or interfering with play to constantly be looking over my should to count 4 defenders 3 attackers.

I'd one in a game which nearly resulted in one team losing over the back of a miss call because players and officials were calling for a player over the halfway line, I blew the whistle and it ended up the lad was over at his sideline getting a drink, that team went up and nearly got a goal from it and it was a wrong call

People think that its shouldnt be difficult and if a sideline is informing you then you should take their word for it.. And this isn't me having a go of course just highlighting that its fine for people to say its hard on refs but then still expecting them to be like owls on the pitch lol

ah if refereeing was so easy I'd just get a t umpires chair like in tennis and just plant it in the middle of the sideline, sure that's were most of the calls are called lol


A team shouting "numbers" calls to get the ref to look when they are under pressure in defence to allow some dark arts to be deployed while his eyes go elsewhere wouldn't help matters either.

paddyjohn

The refs job is impossible I think with the new rules.

They should be getting paid double

bannside

100% PJ. Only thought it was difficult beforehand!

AllStar15

3v3 rule is hard to manage but all the other rules have made a positive difference in the game I'd say. MR2 - have you noticed less back chat in the games you have taken? In the 4/5 games I've seen this year there has been close to none.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: AllStar15 on April 09, 2025, 08:39:07 AM3v3 rule is hard to manage but all the other rules have made a positive difference in the game I'd say. MR2 - have you noticed less back chat in the games you have taken? In the 4/5 games I've seen this year there has been close to none.
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3 games in the league and twice I've moved the ball from players, 2 times from coaches/managers/supporters ;) 
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BigGreenField

Solo and go has been good, as has handing the ball back.

Midfield throw up, probably has reduced fouls. Kick out rules has exposed a few teams and will boost Cargin for championship given aerial ability. Be good to see how many fouls arise of the back of the midfield scrum after a kick out.

Dissent for ref decisions is well down, dissent for frees not given remains high (and ref's largely ignoring it as play moves on).

No pass back to keeper has largely been good but teams don't really hunt defenders  enough, a mindset issue.

3 v3 has increased the pace of games however difficult for ref's. With the challenge to get ref's might be an option for a stand-alone lad who doesn't want to be a ref  to be paid a tenner to just be on the halfway linr and call the 3 v 3 (not ideal but what can we do, maybe even 18 yr old young whistlers for that type of call).  They can bring their own umpires chair.

Milltown Row2

A young whistler would be tortured and not experienced enough to deal with the type of managers that are well able to manipulate a inexperienced lad/lass... No mics either so again impossible in the heat of the game to get it right

I still don't get the benefits of the midfield thing, I can't remember blowing for too many frees at the throw in
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Gaels1789

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2025, 09:51:26 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on April 09, 2025, 08:39:07 AM3v3 rule is hard to manage but all the other rules have made a positive difference in the game I'd say. MR2 - have you noticed less back chat in the games you have taken? In the 4/5 games I've seen this year there has been close to none.
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3 games in the league and twice I've moved the ball from players, 2 times from coaches/managers/supporters ;) 



What has a supporter got to do with the game surely that's a joke...

Gaels1789

Quote from: Gaels1789 on April 09, 2025, 12:31:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2025, 09:51:26 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on April 09, 2025, 08:39:07 AM3v3 rule is hard to manage but all the other rules have made a positive difference in the game I'd say. MR2 - have you noticed less back chat in the games you have taken? In the 4/5 games I've seen this year there has been close to none.
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3 games in the league and twice I've moved the ball from players, 2 times from coaches/managers/supporters ;) 



What has a supporter got to do with the game, should have 0 influencers on a ref's decisions.

surely that's a joke...

Milltown Row2

I put in a wee smiley face, so that no one would take it too seriously  ;)
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SaffronSports

See if your reffing the game and a player behind you calls you something but you couldn't say for sure who said it, do you let it roll? I'm just going with the story where someone put on an accent to earn a free in a challenge match.

Think lgfa need to go down the same route regarding dissent. At an u16 game last night and the discipline was poor.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: SaffronSports on April 09, 2025, 01:02:35 PMSee if your reffing the game and a player behind you calls you something but you couldn't say for sure who said it, do you let it roll? I'm just going with the story where someone put on an accent to earn a free in a challenge match.

Think lgfa need to go down the same route regarding dissent. At an u16 game last night and the discipline was poor.

I think the hurling should look at the dissent thing also, but it is less so tbf. Hurlers are less whiny than the footballers who gurn a bit too much
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