NFL Division 1 2025

Started by Blowitupref, January 15, 2025, 04:10:17 PM

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Who will win the Div 1 final

Kerry
2 (40%)
Mayo
3 (60%)

Total Members Voted: 5

Voting closed: March 29, 2025, 01:26:17 PM

thewobbler

Quote from: LarryStiles on March 25, 2025, 12:26:56 AM
Quote from: EoinW on March 24, 2025, 07:31:10 PM
Quote from: LarryStiles on March 24, 2025, 01:41:16 PMPlay the league final in Limerick.  Be lucky to get 10k on Croke Park. Mayo playing championship the following  Sunday. With mayo resting lads will be easy game for kerry.⁶

I was thinking: play it in Galway.  Play the hurling final in Limerick.

Why does everything seem to revolve around Dublin?  Is the GAA 32 counties or is it Dublin and 31 other counties?

Limerick would be more halfway.

Oddly you've got hurling ones complaining how D3 and D4 footballers get to play in Croke but the hurlers don't.

The hurlings ones clearly haven't been to a soulless, empty Croke park for a half arsed league decider before.

Armamike

Quote from: Truthsayer on March 24, 2025, 10:57:23 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 24, 2025, 10:23:38 PMTwo birds with one stone for Armagh in this league campaign, objective of staying up achieved and played part in relegating Tyrone to Division 2.
I can assure Tyrone folk don't give a sh*te bout relegation. Is a bigger picture.
Ps... short memory of support Armagh got from this side of the Blackwater in last year's All Ireland...

Which part of Tyrone was that - the most northerly part?!
That's just, like your opinion man.

trueblue1234

Quote from: RedHand88 on March 25, 2025, 06:59:53 AMTyrone relegated.

Meh.

Good chance to blood in the youth coming in. Probably going to lose another few lads at the end of this year so the team will be even more green going into next year.

The EC guys not available was prob the key impact on the league. Was good to see improvement when they returned. D2 can be a good help developing players. Would have preferred to stay up, but not a huge issue.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

imtommygunn

Division 2 is absolutely fine if you're staying in it or looking at promotion. It's just making sure you don't go into freefall as 3 a disaster but highly unlikely to happen to Tyrone. Derry are a funny team and while I don't think that will happen to them I wouldn't be shocked if it did either. The wheels have come off there but they should have enough quality that it *shouldn't* be freefall.

gallsman

With so much underage county and schools success in both Derry and Tyrone the last few years, D2 not a bad spot at all to really blood some fresh faces.

Would expect the pair of them to come back up handily enough.

Spiderlegs

Quote from: gallsman on March 25, 2025, 10:14:01 AMWith so much underage county and schools success in both Derry and Tyrone the last few years, D2 not a bad spot at all to really blood some fresh faces.

Would expect the pair of them to come back up handily enough.

Unless there are radical improvements in the Likes of Louth, Cork, Meath, Cavan then Tyrone and Derry will be promoted at a canter.

Derry's 1 point in the League made for false reading in my eyes. The Kerry game was farcical and should have been closed out. As should Donegal when leading well with 10 minutes to go. I would imagine Donegal will take them out in Ulster but they can then go and disappear into the background and go about their work quietly in preparation for the group stages where they will hope to come back nearer to full strength.

Tyrone very unfortunate to be relegated on 7 points. Periods of inconsistencies for sure but Tyrone have had worse league campaigns than this and stayed up. The likely Ulster Semi Final match up with Armagh (no disrespect to Cavan/Antrim) should be a good one. Tyrone's forward line looks very dangerous, so many "pocket rocket" style players that are hard to track in these new rules. And the midfield pairing is very strong.

JoG2

Quote from: Spiderlegs on March 25, 2025, 11:12:03 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 25, 2025, 10:14:01 AMWith so much underage county and schools success in both Derry and Tyrone the last few years, D2 not a bad spot at all to really blood some fresh faces.

Would expect the pair of them to come back up handily enough.

Unless there are radical improvements in the Likes of Louth, Cork, Meath, Cavan then Tyrone and Derry will be promoted at a canter.

Derry's 1 point in the League made for false reading in my eyes. The Kerry game was farcical and should have been closed out. As should Donegal when leading well with 10 minutes to go. I would imagine Donegal will take them out in Ulster but they can then go and disappear into the background and go about their work quietly in preparation for the group stages where they will hope to come back nearer to full strength.

Tyrone very unfortunate to be relegated on 7 points. Periods of inconsistencies for sure but Tyrone have had worse league campaigns than this and stayed up. The likely Ulster Semi Final match up with Armagh (no disrespect to Cavan/Antrim) should be a good one. Tyrone's forward line looks very dangerous, so many "pocket rocket" style players that are hard to track in these new rules. And the midfield pairing is very strong.

That's not happening 🇮🇩

Spiderlegs

Quote from: JoG2 on March 25, 2025, 11:45:58 AM
Quote from: Spiderlegs on March 25, 2025, 11:12:03 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 25, 2025, 10:14:01 AMWith so much underage county and schools success in both Derry and Tyrone the last few years, D2 not a bad spot at all to really blood some fresh faces.

Would expect the pair of them to come back up handily enough.

Unless there are radical improvements in the Likes of Louth, Cork, Meath, Cavan then Tyrone and Derry will be promoted at a canter.

Derry's 1 point in the League made for false reading in my eyes. The Kerry game was farcical and should have been closed out. As should Donegal when leading well with 10 minutes to go. I would imagine Donegal will take them out in Ulster but they can then go and disappear into the background and go about their work quietly in preparation for the group stages where they will hope to come back nearer to full strength.

Tyrone very unfortunate to be relegated on 7 points. Periods of inconsistencies for sure but Tyrone have had worse league campaigns than this and stayed up. The likely Ulster Semi Final match up with Armagh (no disrespect to Cavan/Antrim) should be a good one. Tyrone's forward line looks very dangerous, so many "pocket rocket" style players that are hard to track in these new rules. And the midfield pairing is very strong.

That's not happening 🇮🇩

You think Derry will beat Donegal in the preliminary round?

JoG2

Quote from: Spiderlegs on March 25, 2025, 12:11:22 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 25, 2025, 11:45:58 AM
Quote from: Spiderlegs on March 25, 2025, 11:12:03 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 25, 2025, 10:14:01 AMWith so much underage county and schools success in both Derry and Tyrone the last few years, D2 not a bad spot at all to really blood some fresh faces.

Would expect the pair of them to come back up handily enough.

Unless there are radical improvements in the Likes of Louth, Cork, Meath, Cavan then Tyrone and Derry will be promoted at a canter.

Derry's 1 point in the League made for false reading in my eyes. The Kerry game was farcical and should have been closed out. As should Donegal when leading well with 10 minutes to go. I would imagine Donegal will take them out in Ulster but they can then go and disappear into the background and go about their work quietly in preparation for the group stages where they will hope to come back nearer to full strength.

Tyrone very unfortunate to be relegated on 7 points. Periods of inconsistencies for sure but Tyrone have had worse league campaigns than this and stayed up. The likely Ulster Semi Final match up with Armagh (no disrespect to Cavan/Antrim) should be a good one. Tyrone's forward line looks very dangerous, so many "pocket rocket" style players that are hard to track in these new rules. And the midfield pairing is very strong.

That's not happening 🇮🇩

You think Derry will beat Donegal in the preliminary round?

Yes, have said it since the draw was made.

Truthsayer

Quote from: JoG2 on March 25, 2025, 12:30:45 PM
Quote from: Spiderlegs on March 25, 2025, 12:11:22 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 25, 2025, 11:45:58 AM
Quote from: Spiderlegs on March 25, 2025, 11:12:03 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 25, 2025, 10:14:01 AMWith so much underage county and schools success in both Derry and Tyrone the last few years, D2 not a bad spot at all to really blood some fresh faces.

Would expect the pair of them to come back up handily enough.

Unless there are radical improvements in the Likes of Louth, Cork, Meath, Cavan then Tyrone and Derry will be promoted at a canter.

Derry's 1 point in the League made for false reading in my eyes. The Kerry game was farcical and should have been closed out. As should Donegal when leading well with 10 minutes to go. I would imagine Donegal will take them out in Ulster but they can then go and disappear into the background and go about their work quietly in preparation for the group stages where they will hope to come back nearer to full strength.

Tyrone very unfortunate to be relegated on 7 points. Periods of inconsistencies for sure but Tyrone have had worse league campaigns than this and stayed up. The likely Ulster Semi Final match up with Armagh (no disrespect to Cavan/Antrim) should be a good one. Tyrone's forward line looks very dangerous, so many "pocket rocket" style players that are hard to track in these new rules. And the midfield pairing is very strong.

That's not happening 🇮🇩

You think Derry will beat Donegal in the preliminary round?

Yes, have said it since the draw was made.
The ship has sailed.. courtesy of Harte and Tally. Was in top 3 and so close now a shadow of Rory's day. League win did them no favours. Harte hype...

Wildweasel74

Derry were ok to their training trip that turned into a shit show.Been down hill all the way since.

blanketattack

Quote from: StephenC on March 24, 2025, 09:35:04 PM
Quote from: GTP on March 24, 2025, 07:36:35 PMDid anyone enjoy the league?
The two relegated teams say it doesn't matter we can rebuild next year.
The two finalists get to say it is only the league, good to get a game in Croke Park, we are preparing for championship whatever the result.
And the other 4 get to hang about to play the big boys next year in a bunch of games they may or may not care about depending on how they are going.


If Donegal didn't have a critical championship game one week after a potential league final, then you can bet that the team would be going all out for it. A county like Donegal has won so little that any chance to compete for a national title would be a big deal.

I think it'd ridiculous how "look how they celebrated winning the league" is used as some kind of insult. There are only 3 trophys that an intercounty team can win in any year (sorry Dr McKenna) and the idea that you shouldn't be happy if you win one of them is madness.

Donegal should have gone all out for the league regardless.
They've only won 3 national titles at senior level in their entire history. Had a good chance of a 33.3% increase of that!

The provincial championship has 0 significance for Div 1 teams in relation to the All-Ireland.
Especially Ulster as it means an early Ulster Championship exit puts them as 3rd seed, with a 2/3 chance of an easy 2nd seed and an easy 4th seed giving them no real jeopardy in getting out of their group.

blanketattack

Quote from: GTP on March 24, 2025, 07:36:35 PMDid anyone enjoy the league?
The two relegated teams say it doesn't matter we can rebuild next year.
The two finalists get to say it is only the league, good to get a game in Croke Park, we are preparing for championship whatever the result.
And the other 4 get to hang about to play the big boys next year in a bunch of games they may or may not care about depending on how they are going.


County boards care about the league the most as there's a huge drop-off in revenue in Div 2

Spiderlegs

Quote from: JoG2 on March 25, 2025, 12:30:45 PM
Quote from: Spiderlegs on March 25, 2025, 12:11:22 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 25, 2025, 11:45:58 AM
Quote from: Spiderlegs on March 25, 2025, 11:12:03 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 25, 2025, 10:14:01 AMWith so much underage county and schools success in both Derry and Tyrone the last few years, D2 not a bad spot at all to really blood some fresh faces.

Would expect the pair of them to come back up handily enough.

Unless there are radical improvements in the Likes of Louth, Cork, Meath, Cavan then Tyrone and Derry will be promoted at a canter.

Derry's 1 point in the League made for false reading in my eyes. The Kerry game was farcical and should have been closed out. As should Donegal when leading well with 10 minutes to go. I would imagine Donegal will take them out in Ulster but they can then go and disappear into the background and go about their work quietly in preparation for the group stages where they will hope to come back nearer to full strength.

Tyrone very unfortunate to be relegated on 7 points. Periods of inconsistencies for sure but Tyrone have had worse league campaigns than this and stayed up. The likely Ulster Semi Final match up with Armagh (no disrespect to Cavan/Antrim) should be a good one. Tyrone's forward line looks very dangerous, so many "pocket rocket" style players that are hard to track in these new rules. And the midfield pairing is very strong.

That's not happening 🇮🇩

You think Derry will beat Donegal in the preliminary round?

Yes, have said it since the draw was made.

Fair enough. Can't see it mind you. These two sides are quite clearly heading in opposite directions. Derry have excellent players when all available and can be a very competitive team at the top end but they are badly off it ever since being ambushed by Donegal last year.

twohands!!!

Quote from: blanketattack on March 25, 2025, 04:18:39 PM
Quote from: GTP on March 24, 2025, 07:36:35 PMDid anyone enjoy the league?
The two relegated teams say it doesn't matter we can rebuild next year.
The two finalists get to say it is only the league, good to get a game in Croke Park, we are preparing for championship whatever the result.
And the other 4 get to hang about to play the big boys next year in a bunch of games they may or may not care about depending on how they are going.


County boards care about the league the most as there's a huge drop-off in revenue in Div 2

Also there's decent extra bonuses for getting to the finals expecially for Division 1 so county treasurers definitely care about getting to a league final.