Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[marty34]

Has Mc Shane drifted off things since his injury.

Would he be a nialled on starter?

[giveherlong]

Kennedy a key player for Tyrone but Tyrone were cleaned out in the air last night and more worryingly on breaking ball. new rules look like you need 2/3 fielders minimum under a kickout and a swarm of men to attack the break. Armagh brought a serious intensity to their game last night as they needed points. Some gaping holes in Tyrone defence. Early days anyway. Priority is to stay in division 1 and get a look at some new faces. Then reset for the championship

[GaelTheGael]

Couple of take aways

- still the same issue as previous years with having little power runners
- anything happens Kennedy Tyrone are in trouble. He had his hands full dealing with Armagh big men and needs help
- Attacking play didn't happen tonight
- need more shooters. Mckernan happy to shoot but need more
- Armagh slick around both Ds, in defence and attack
- With all that have to keep in mind where Tyrone are at the moment and were able to keep at it and keep the score respectable
- r Brennan surely work his way in
- will be good match for Orourke to see the weaknesses

May be a controversial opinion but I truly believe Brian Kennedy is the best midfielder in the country, and has been since 2021. Unfortunately Tyrone don't  have a second quality midfielder to partner him leaving him to carry our midfield by himself. That might sound harsh on Killpatrick who had a great year in midfield in 2021, but he hasn't been anywhere near that level since then and seems to be more of effective in the 11 or 14 role.

From what I've seen from Aodhán Donaghy in club football he may well be the answer but we haven't really seen him get that chance with the county yet.

In terms of the attacking side, I can't understand why mcelholm doesn't start over the likes of Cassidy. Especially with the 2 canavans not playing as it leaves us relying on mccurry alone for scores.

Frank burns and Kieran Mcgeary would struggle to start for the likes of Errigal or Trillick yet they somehow start for Tyrone over the likes of Rory Brennan,mcelholm and killpatrick.

We are probably at the point where Mattie Donnelly, Burns and McGeary cannot be considered guaranteed starters. Still a role to play but can't be gauranteed names on the first 15.
Bigger issue is are the players we have All-Ireland standard players? Do we see Tyrone winning the All Ireland with Aidan Clarke, Niall Devlin, Liam Gray, Ciaran Daly, Ronan Cassidy?

Couple of take aways

- still the same issue as previous years with having little power runners
- anything happens Kennedy Tyrone are in trouble. He had his hands full dealing with Armagh big men and needs help
- Attacking play didn't happen tonight
- need more shooters. Mckernan happy to shoot but need more
- Armagh slick around both Ds, in defence and attack
- With all that have to keep in mind where Tyrone are at the moment and were able to keep at it and keep the score respectable
- r Brennan surely work his way in
- will be good match for Orourke to see the weaknesses

May be a controversial opinion but I truly believe Brian Kennedy is the best midfielder in the country, and has been since 2021. Unfortunately Tyrone don't  have a second quality midfielder to partner him leaving him to carry our midfield by himself. That might sound harsh on Killpatrick who had a great year in midfield in 2021, but he hasn't been anywhere near that level since then and seems to be more of effective in the 11 or 14 role.

From what I've seen from Aodhán Donaghy in club football he may well be the answer but we haven't really seen him get that chance with the county yet.

In terms of the attacking side, I can't understand why mcelholm doesn't start over the likes of Cassidy. Especially with the 2 canavans not playing as it leaves us relying on mccurry alone for scores.

Frank burns and Kieran Mcgeary would struggle to start for the likes of Errigal or Trillick yet they somehow start for Tyrone over the likes of Rory Brennan,mcelholm and killpatrick.

We are now at the point where Burns, McGeary and Mattie Donnelly can not be considered automatic starters. They still have something to offer but not certain selections. Peter Harte may also fall into this category.
Are the players playing in the team currently good enough to win an All Ireland? Can we win an All Ireland with Aidan Clarke, Peter Teague,  Niall Devlin, Liam Gray, Aodhan Donaghy, Ronan Cassidy? If not, and the signs indicate they are not, we need to move on, let them go back to their clubs or the development squad and get the players into the team who give us a better chance of competing.

[Mikhailov]

Development squad? What's this?

Is this a new thing introduced by O'Rourke?

Who is on it or what is the purpose?

Are these players allowed to play for their clubs?

[NotedObserver]

Anyone any idea who is on the panel but not in the 26?

[soloandgo25]

Has Mc Shane drifted off things since his injury.

Would he be a nialled on starter?

For Owen Roes?

[Goals_Will_Come]

Has Mc Shane drifted off things since his injury.

Would he be a nialled on starter?

The only nailed on starters Tyrone should have are Morgan, Hampsey, McKernan, Kennedy, Kilpatrick and Darragh Canavan.

[HokeyPokey]

Has Mc Shane drifted off things since his injury.

Would he be a nialled on starter?

The only nailed on starters Tyrone should have are Morgan, Hampsey, McKernan, Kennedy, Kilpatrick and Darragh Canavan.

Hard to disagree on that, I'd say you'd have to include Donnelly, he is not young, but still one of the top performers and capable in a number of roles. You could maybe argue for McCurry as he's generally been consistent post-Harte but there's a lot of good forwards of his type coming through. MOR should make better use of that dynamic than Harte did. I'd have had Meyler too, based on his pre-injury previous form, but how he will return is another thing. Hard to make a case for the younger players, given how the last few years have had.

[NotedObserver]

Feel ohare likely be a main stay this year as ceiling is v high. If Hampsey returns could we see Teague at half back? Think Brennan will work his way into the side

I assume Meyler won't be back this year?

[Goals_Will_Come]

Feel ohare likely be a main stay this year as ceiling is v high. If Hampsey returns could we see Teague at half back? Think Brennan will work his way into the side

I assume Meyler won't be back this year?

O'Hare has certainly started off well and has all the attributes to be a success with the new rules with his pace. Brennan will get himself into the team - only a question of whether that is in at corner back or in the half back line. Come the summer and players have to be marked I don't know if we can get away with McKernan at 6, so Brennan might end up there with McKernan back in the corner.

[Goals_Will_Come]

Anyone any idea who is on the panel but not in the 26?

League Panel (36)
Shea O'Hare (Ardboe)
Michael O'Neill (Ardboe)
Lorcan McGarrity (Carrickmore)
Niall Devlin (Coalisland)
Padraig Hampsey (Coalisland)
Michael McKernan (Coalisland)
Brian Kennedy (Derrylaughan)
Ronan Cassidy (Donaghmore)
Nathan McCarron (Dromore)
Peter Teague (Dromore)
Conall Devlin (Dungannon)
Ben Cullen (Edendork)
Conn Kilpatrick (Edendork)
Darren McCurry (Edendork)
Niall Morgan (Edendork)
Darragh Canavan (Errigal Ciaran)
Ruairi Canavan (Errigal Ciaran)
Peter Harte (Errigal Ciaran)
Joe Oguz (Errigal Ciaran)
Cormac Quinn (Errigal Ciaran)
Mark Bradley (Killyclogher)
Michael Rafferty (Killyclogher)
Aodhan Donaghy (Loughmacrory)
Cathal Donaghy (Loughmacrory)
Eoin McElholm (Loughmacrory)
Oisin O'Kane (Loughmacrory)
Aidan Clarke (Omagh)
Conor Meyler (Omagh)
Cathal McShane (Owen Roes)
Frank Burns (Pomeroy)
Kieran McGeary (Pomeroy)
Rory Brennan (Trillick)
Ciaran Daly (Trillick)
Matthew Donnelly (Trillick)
Liam Gray (Trillick)
Sean O'Donnell (Trillick)

Other who were involved prior to NFL:
Conor Owens (Beragh)
Tiernan Quinn (Coalisland)
Ben Gormley (Dungannon)
Dalaigh Jones (Dungannon)
Cormac Donnelly (Galbally)
Tarlach Quinn (Moortown)
Steve Donaghy (Moy)
Richard Donnelly (Trillick)

[bogball88]

Anyone any idea who is on the panel but not in the 26?

League Panel (36)
Shea O'Hare (Ardboe)
Michael O'Neill (Ardboe)
Lorcan McGarrity (Carrickmore)
Niall Devlin (Coalisland)
Padraig Hampsey (Coalisland)
Michael McKernan (Coalisland)
Brian Kennedy (Derrylaughan)
Ronan Cassidy (Donaghmore)
Nathan McCarron (Dromore)
Peter Teague (Dromore)
Conall Devlin (Dungannon)
Ben Cullen (Edendork)
Conn Kilpatrick (Edendork)
Darren McCurry (Edendork)
Niall Morgan (Edendork)
Darragh Canavan (Errigal Ciaran)
Ruairi Canavan (Errigal Ciaran)
Peter Harte (Errigal Ciaran)
Joe Oguz (Errigal Ciaran)
Cormac Quinn (Errigal Ciaran)
Mark Bradley (Killyclogher)
Michael Rafferty (Killyclogher)
Aodhan Donaghy (Loughmacrory)
Cathal Donaghy (Loughmacrory)
Eoin McElholm (Loughmacrory)
Oisin O'Kane (Loughmacrory)
Aidan Clarke (Omagh)
Conor Meyler (Omagh)
Cathal McShane (Owen Roes)
Frank Burns (Pomeroy)
Kieran McGeary (Pomeroy)
Rory Brennan (Trillick)
Ciaran Daly (Trillick)
Matthew Donnelly (Trillick)
Liam Gray (Trillick)
Sean O'Donnell (Trillick)

Other who were involved prior to NFL:
Conor Owens (Beragh)
Tiernan Quinn (Coalisland)
Ben Gormley (Dungannon)
Dalaigh Jones (Dungannon)
Cormac Donnelly (Galbally)
Tarlach Quinn (Moortown)
Steve Donaghy (Moy)
Richard Donnelly (Trillick)

[Onthe40]

what happened Richie Donnelly?
thought he was all primed for a return to the team on the basis of his club form?

[superstar_]

what happened Richie Donnelly?
thought he was all primed for a return to the team on the basis of his club form?

With the exception of 2023 has his club form ever warranted a place on the county team? Was 2024 good enough to earn a recall? Has his performances for Tyrone ever been good enough to back up people calling for his selection in the team? Has he ever put together an injury free season for Tyrone?
Tyrone are better of looking elsewhere, Joe Oguz and Cathal Donaghy are both better options around midfield/wing forward.

[Mikhailov]

what happened Richie Donnelly?
thought he was all primed for a return to the team on the basis of his club form?

With the exception of 2023 has his club form ever warranted a place on the county team? Was 2024 good enough to earn a recall? Has his performances for Tyrone ever been good enough to back up people calling for his selection in the team? Has he ever put together an injury free season for Tyrone?
Tyrone are better of looking elsewhere, Joe Oguz and Cathal Donaghy are both better options around midfield/wing forward.

Superstar, you must have been some player in your day or else you hold a grudge for non selection yourself