Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

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Armagh18

Quote from: ONeill on January 30, 2025, 10:21:06 PMWonder if it will be possible to yap a ball over the bar. Like, yap her up to the 13. Then another boy yaps and the ref says any more yapping and it's yapped over the bar. Then someone yaps, and the ref yaps her over the bar. Another yap and it's a penalty, and if that's followed by another yap it's yapped into the net. Then the Irish News can say Turbitt 0-4, Campbell 0-4, Yapping 1-1. They'd have to define yapping though.
Yapping worth sticking a few quid on for poty then? :D

SaffronSports

Quote from: johnnycool on January 30, 2025, 01:48:38 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 30, 2025, 11:36:51 AMAll eyes on Kilkenny club football .....

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41564533.html

31 club football teams and you lads say they don't promote football!



Lost a bit of respect for them hearing they've that many clubs.

Watched a schools hurling match between St Kierans and Kilkenny CBS (brilliant match btw) and Nowlan Park didn't even have 40m arcs drawn on the pitch. Thought to myself wonder how long before they ever have to draw the arcs on.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: SaffronSports on January 31, 2025, 01:17:21 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 30, 2025, 01:48:38 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 30, 2025, 11:36:51 AMAll eyes on Kilkenny club football .....

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41564533.html

31 club football teams and you lads say they don't promote football!



Lost a bit of respect for them hearing they've that many clubs.

Watched a schools hurling match between St Kierans and Kilkenny CBS (brilliant match btw) and Nowlan Park didn't even have 40m arcs drawn on the pitch. Thought to myself wonder how long before they ever have to draw the arcs on.

Loughgiel don't have arcs on them neither  Cushendall nor do they have 45's,

At some point they will, it's sticks in peoples throats why they don't have the effort in football at county level.. could say the same for lots of counties in Ireland for their minimal effort shown to Hurling
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

johnnycool

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2025, 07:35:20 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 31, 2025, 01:17:21 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 30, 2025, 01:48:38 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 30, 2025, 11:36:51 AMAll eyes on Kilkenny club football .....

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41564533.html

31 club football teams and you lads say they don't promote football!



Lost a bit of respect for them hearing they've that many clubs.

Watched a schools hurling match between St Kierans and Kilkenny CBS (brilliant match btw) and Nowlan Park didn't even have 40m arcs drawn on the pitch. Thought to myself wonder how long before they ever have to draw the arcs on.

Loughgiel don't have arcs on them neither  Cushendall nor do they have 45's,

At some point they will, it's sticks in peoples throats why they don't have the effort in football at county level.. could say the same for lots of counties in Ireland for their minimal effort shown to Hurling

Where do the Cushendall camogs play out of?


thebigfullforward

Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 30, 2025, 02:27:09 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 30, 2025, 02:01:09 PM
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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2025, 10:35:23 PM
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Quote from: jay110 on January 29, 2025, 10:22:13 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 09:53:57 PMWhat is the punishment for yapping at the ref for giving a free against you?
50 metres forward I'm pretty sure, only the team captain can speak to the ref
What if it's a 13m tap over free?

Move to in front of the goal on the 13, if he's yapping, book him or depending on what's coming out black card him.

Unfortunately shooting them wasn't brought in this time

The black card for yapping needs a bit more content than the regular gurning in fairness

I've used it a few times
Seems harsh if the player is giving out about a genuinely bad decision
Is surely, but even if the player is right, I'm yet to see a ref change is mind after being given out to.

It's not harsh. What is harsh is for players to be constantly screaming at someone trying to ref a game of football.
The days of players and management verbally abusing a ref all game will hopefully be in the rear view mirror.. This is a good thing unless you've a real want in you 
Well obviously, but if a player gets a totally incorrect call given, it's natural to say "aw ref he pulled my arm" or "ref what was that for?" Without screaming abuse or effing and blinding at the ref. Harsh to get a free moved 50m and concede a handy 2 pointer for that.

Doubt many would be complaining if refs moved frees up and carded people who screamed abuse.
Players aren't independent. So their view are subjective. If you allow a little, the line will always get pushed as players try to find boundaries. If they know they can't say anything, they'll soon get used to it.
Are you saying that players shouldn't be able to question a decision at all? Heard a few people say thisand I don't understand it. The ref will never overturn his decision (unless another official has a word) but it would still be good for players to know what the thought process was

Milltown Row2

Quote from: johnnycool on January 31, 2025, 07:57:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2025, 07:35:20 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 31, 2025, 01:17:21 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 30, 2025, 01:48:38 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 30, 2025, 11:36:51 AMAll eyes on Kilkenny club football .....

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41564533.html

31 club football teams and you lads say they don't promote football!



Lost a bit of respect for them hearing they've that many clubs.

Watched a schools hurling match between St Kierans and Kilkenny CBS (brilliant match btw) and Nowlan Park didn't even have 40m arcs drawn on the pitch. Thought to myself wonder how long before they ever have to draw the arcs on.

Loughgiel don't have arcs on them neither  Cushendall nor do they have 45's,

At some point they will, it's sticks in peoples throats why they don't have the effort in football at county level.. could say the same for lots of counties in Ireland for their minimal effort shown to Hurling

Where do the Cushendall camogs play out of?



Not sure, but I always chuckle when I see no 45's
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

tbrick18

Quote from: JoG2 on January 30, 2025, 11:30:09 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 30, 2025, 11:23:15 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 30, 2025, 11:07:05 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 30, 2025, 09:43:41 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on January 30, 2025, 08:45:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2025, 10:35:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 10:24:28 PM
Quote from: jay110 on January 29, 2025, 10:22:13 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 09:53:57 PMWhat is the punishment for yapping at the ref for giving a free against you?
50 metres forward I'm pretty sure, only the team captain can speak to the ref
What if it's a 13m tap over free?

Move to in front of the goal on the 13, if he's yapping, book him or depending on what's coming out black card him.

Unfortunately shooting them wasn't brought in this time

The black card for yapping needs a bit more content than the regular gurning in fairness

I've used it a few times
Seems harsh if the player is giving out about a genuinely bad decision
Is surely, but even if the player is right, I'm yet to see a ref change is mind after being given out to.

It's not harsh. What is harsh is for players to be constantly screaming at someone trying to ref a game of football.
The days of players and management verbally abusing a ref all game will hopefully be in the rear view mirror.. This is a good thing unless you've a real want in you

This is the one rule they brought in that I don't actually mind.
However, the part where only a team captain can speak to the ref is unfair. Works in rugby as the players are generally all in the same part of the pitch and a refereeing decision for say a scrum, results in some time required to set up that scrum giving the captain an opportunity to speak to the ref. Football is different. Say the captain is the GK and the foul is against the FF at the other end of the pitch then the captain doesnt have the chance to ask the ref what the decision was for. Even with solo and go, the captain wouldn't get the chance to speak to the ref.

If only they had trialled these rules in a pre-season competition and then adjusted for the league.


Any player can speak to the ref tbrick, in a civilised manner. Captain / spokesperson can question decisions, again in a civilised manner

Once again my misunderstanding of the new rules!
So really it's a rule against dissent - which I have no issue with at all.

JoG2

Quote from: tbrick18 on January 31, 2025, 10:20:08 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 30, 2025, 11:30:09 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 30, 2025, 11:23:15 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 30, 2025, 11:07:05 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 30, 2025, 09:43:41 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on January 30, 2025, 08:45:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2025, 10:35:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 10:24:28 PM
Quote from: jay110 on January 29, 2025, 10:22:13 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 09:53:57 PMWhat is the punishment for yapping at the ref for giving a free against you?
50 metres forward I'm pretty sure, only the team captain can speak to the ref
What if it's a 13m tap over free?

Move to in front of the goal on the 13, if he's yapping, book him or depending on what's coming out black card him.

Unfortunately shooting them wasn't brought in this time

The black card for yapping needs a bit more content than the regular gurning in fairness

I've used it a few times
Seems harsh if the player is giving out about a genuinely bad decision
Is surely, but even if the player is right, I'm yet to see a ref change is mind after being given out to.

It's not harsh. What is harsh is for players to be constantly screaming at someone trying to ref a game of football.
The days of players and management verbally abusing a ref all game will hopefully be in the rear view mirror.. This is a good thing unless you've a real want in you

This is the one rule they brought in that I don't actually mind.
However, the part where only a team captain can speak to the ref is unfair. Works in rugby as the players are generally all in the same part of the pitch and a refereeing decision for say a scrum, results in some time required to set up that scrum giving the captain an opportunity to speak to the ref. Football is different. Say the captain is the GK and the foul is against the FF at the other end of the pitch then the captain doesnt have the chance to ask the ref what the decision was for. Even with solo and go, the captain wouldn't get the chance to speak to the ref.

If only they had trialled these rules in a pre-season competition and then adjusted for the league.


Any player can speak to the ref tbrick, in a civilised manner. Captain / spokesperson can question decisions, again in a civilised manner

Once again my misunderstanding of the new rules!
So really it's a rule against dissent - which I have no issue with at all.

That's it.. Wondering how things will be this time next year after a full season of the new rules. I was speaking with a reg during the week who had decided to hang up the whistle, but is going to give it another rattle this year

Milltown Row2

Quote from: JoG2 on January 31, 2025, 10:46:33 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 31, 2025, 10:20:08 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 30, 2025, 11:30:09 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 30, 2025, 11:23:15 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 30, 2025, 11:07:05 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 30, 2025, 09:43:41 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on January 30, 2025, 08:45:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2025, 10:35:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 10:24:28 PM
Quote from: jay110 on January 29, 2025, 10:22:13 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 09:53:57 PMWhat is the punishment for yapping at the ref for giving a free against you?
50 metres forward I'm pretty sure, only the team captain can speak to the ref
What if it's a 13m tap over free?

Move to in front of the goal on the 13, if he's yapping, book him or depending on what's coming out black card him.

Unfortunately shooting them wasn't brought in this time

The black card for yapping needs a bit more content than the regular gurning in fairness

I've used it a few times
Seems harsh if the player is giving out about a genuinely bad decision
Is surely, but even if the player is right, I'm yet to see a ref change is mind after being given out to.

It's not harsh. What is harsh is for players to be constantly screaming at someone trying to ref a game of football.
The days of players and management verbally abusing a ref all game will hopefully be in the rear view mirror.. This is a good thing unless you've a real want in you

This is the one rule they brought in that I don't actually mind.
However, the part where only a team captain can speak to the ref is unfair. Works in rugby as the players are generally all in the same part of the pitch and a refereeing decision for say a scrum, results in some time required to set up that scrum giving the captain an opportunity to speak to the ref. Football is different. Say the captain is the GK and the foul is against the FF at the other end of the pitch then the captain doesnt have the chance to ask the ref what the decision was for. Even with solo and go, the captain wouldn't get the chance to speak to the ref.

If only they had trialled these rules in a pre-season competition and then adjusted for the league.


Any player can speak to the ref tbrick, in a civilised manner. Captain / spokesperson can question decisions, again in a civilised manner

Once again my misunderstanding of the new rules!
So really it's a rule against dissent - which I have no issue with at all.

That's it.. Wondering how things will be this time next year after a full season of the new rules. I was speaking with a reg during the week who had decided to hang up the whistle, but is going to give it another rattle this year

Probably wants to put some manners on people  ;)  ;D
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

SaffronSports

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2025, 07:35:20 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 31, 2025, 01:17:21 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 30, 2025, 01:48:38 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 30, 2025, 11:36:51 AMAll eyes on Kilkenny club football .....

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41564533.html

31 club football teams and you lads say they don't promote football!



Lost a bit of respect for them hearing they've that many clubs.

Watched a schools hurling match between St Kierans and Kilkenny CBS (brilliant match btw) and Nowlan Park didn't even have 40m arcs drawn on the pitch. Thought to myself wonder how long before they ever have to draw the arcs on.

Loughgiel don't have arcs on them neither  Cushendall nor do they have 45's,

At some point they will, it's sticks in peoples throats why they don't have the effort in football at county level.. could say the same for lots of counties in Ireland for their minimal effort shown to Hurling

We were at a ladies football match last season in Glenavy I Think it was and they didn't have 65s on the pitch.

I've never noticed the lack of 45s in Cushendall but I would have thought they'd be on for the camogs. I do remember kicking a ball about with my daughter there one day and a lad "joked" balls with air in them are banned on this pitch.

imtommygunn

There's a Loughgiel team photo from the 80s where they played a football match so they must have played some football once  ;D Cushendall I don't think would have it about the place.

It seems the same down the Ards peninsula. Anyone ever try starting football up in any of those clubs JC?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: imtommygunn on January 31, 2025, 12:21:24 PMThere's a Loughgiel team photo from the 80s where they played a football match so they must have played some football once  ;D Cushendall I don't think would have it about the place.

It seems the same down the Ards peninsula. Anyone ever try starting football up in any of those clubs JC?


Played Soccer a load of years ago in Kircubben and few Crans lads played ball
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

JoG2

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2025, 11:41:52 AM
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Quote from: tbrick18 on January 31, 2025, 10:20:08 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 30, 2025, 11:30:09 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 30, 2025, 11:23:15 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 30, 2025, 11:07:05 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 30, 2025, 09:43:41 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on January 30, 2025, 08:45:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2025, 10:35:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 10:24:28 PM
Quote from: jay110 on January 29, 2025, 10:22:13 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 09:53:57 PMWhat is the punishment for yapping at the ref for giving a free against you?
50 metres forward I'm pretty sure, only the team captain can speak to the ref
What if it's a 13m tap over free?

Move to in front of the goal on the 13, if he's yapping, book him or depending on what's coming out black card him.

Unfortunately shooting them wasn't brought in this time

The black card for yapping needs a bit more content than the regular gurning in fairness

I've used it a few times
Seems harsh if the player is giving out about a genuinely bad decision
Is surely, but even if the player is right, I'm yet to see a ref change is mind after being given out to.

It's not harsh. What is harsh is for players to be constantly screaming at someone trying to ref a game of football.
The days of players and management verbally abusing a ref all game will hopefully be in the rear view mirror.. This is a good thing unless you've a real want in you

This is the one rule they brought in that I don't actually mind.
However, the part where only a team captain can speak to the ref is unfair. Works in rugby as the players are generally all in the same part of the pitch and a refereeing decision for say a scrum, results in some time required to set up that scrum giving the captain an opportunity to speak to the ref. Football is different. Say the captain is the GK and the foul is against the FF at the other end of the pitch then the captain doesnt have the chance to ask the ref what the decision was for. Even with solo and go, the captain wouldn't get the chance to speak to the ref.

If only they had trialled these rules in a pre-season competition and then adjusted for the league.


Any player can speak to the ref tbrick, in a civilised manner. Captain / spokesperson can question decisions, again in a civilised manner

Once again my misunderstanding of the new rules!
So really it's a rule against dissent - which I have no issue with at all.

That's it.. Wondering how things will be this time next year after a full season of the new rules. I was speaking with a reg during the week who had decided to hang up the whistle, but is going to give it another rattle this year

Probably wants to put some manners on people  ;)  ;D

Revenge.... In all seriousness, he was so sick of the abuse. But, as Derry is so short on good blowers, and with the new rules (willing to give it a go), 1 more for the road

jay110

Quote from: JoG2 on January 31, 2025, 01:54:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2025, 11:41:52 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 31, 2025, 10:46:33 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 31, 2025, 10:20:08 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 30, 2025, 11:30:09 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 30, 2025, 11:23:15 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 30, 2025, 11:07:05 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 30, 2025, 09:43:41 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on January 30, 2025, 08:45:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2025, 10:35:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 10:24:28 PM
Quote from: jay110 on January 29, 2025, 10:22:13 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 09:53:57 PMWhat is the punishment for yapping at the ref for giving a free against you?
50 metres forward I'm pretty sure, only the team captain can speak to the ref
What if it's a 13m tap over free?

Move to in front of the goal on the 13, if he's yapping, book him or depending on what's coming out black card him.

Unfortunately shooting them wasn't brought in this time

The black card for yapping needs a bit more content than the regular gurning in fairness

I've used it a few times
Seems harsh if the player is giving out about a genuinely bad decision
Is surely, but even if the player is right, I'm yet to see a ref change is mind after being given out to.

It's not harsh. What is harsh is for players to be constantly screaming at someone trying to ref a game of football.
The days of players and management verbally abusing a ref all game will hopefully be in the rear view mirror.. This is a good thing unless you've a real want in you

This is the one rule they brought in that I don't actually mind.
However, the part where only a team captain can speak to the ref is unfair. Works in rugby as the players are generally all in the same part of the pitch and a refereeing decision for say a scrum, results in some time required to set up that scrum giving the captain an opportunity to speak to the ref. Football is different. Say the captain is the GK and the foul is against the FF at the other end of the pitch then the captain doesnt have the chance to ask the ref what the decision was for. Even with solo and go, the captain wouldn't get the chance to speak to the ref.

If only they had trialled these rules in a pre-season competition and then adjusted for the league.


Any player can speak to the ref tbrick, in a civilised manner. Captain / spokesperson can question decisions, again in a civilised manner

Once again my misunderstanding of the new rules!
So really it's a rule against dissent - which I have no issue with at all.

That's it.. Wondering how things will be this time next year after a full season of the new rules. I was speaking with a reg during the week who had decided to hang up the whistle, but is going to give it another rattle this year

Probably wants to put some manners on people  ;)  ;D

Revenge.... In all seriousness, he was so sick of the abuse. But, as Derry is so short on good blowers, and with the new rules (willing to give it a go), 1 more for the road
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 30, 2025, 11:31:13 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 30, 2025, 10:21:06 PMWonder if it will be possible to yap a ball over the bar. Like, yap her up to the 13. Then another boy yaps and the ref says any more yapping and it's yapped over the bar. Then someone yaps, and the ref yaps her over the bar. Another yap and it's a penalty, and if that's followed by another yap it's yapped into the net. Then the Irish News can say Turbitt 0-4, Campbell 0-4, Yapping 1-1. They'd have to define yapping though.
Yapping worth sticking a few quid on for poty then? :D
The odds would probably be short enough, but i can see him yapping a poty after the amount of points he yaps over the bar this season. It just depends if the ref tries to keep yapping.
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Magpie22

what if when they are picking the all stars and yapping goes in corner forward, what team does yap go into. Hed prob have yapped alot against the yappers of tyrone but what team is he from. Will they add  up all the Yaps and divide  by yap??