The Many Faces of US Politics...

Started by Tyrones own, March 20, 2009, 09:29:14 PM

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theskull1

Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 28, 2024, 10:38:01 PMThe people who have actively been sowing division in every single country in the west, including Ireland, are the same people who have you eating out of the palm of their hand.

You're just too dumb to see it.

Help me understand the type of divisive false messaging they'd be pushing my way (that I want to hear) for that to hold up?
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

Eamonnca1

Quote from: theskull1 on October 29, 2024, 05:33:24 AM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 28, 2024, 10:38:01 PMThe people who have actively been sowing division in every single country in the west, including Ireland, are the same people who have you eating out of the palm of their hand.

You're just too dumb to see it.

Help me understand the type of divisive false messaging they'd be pushing my way (that I want to hear) for that to hold up?

Well there's the "Harris and Trump are no different" BS for a start.

Banks of the Bann

Quote from: theskull1 on October 29, 2024, 05:33:24 AM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 28, 2024, 10:38:01 PMThe people who have actively been sowing division in every single country in the west, including Ireland, are the same people who have you eating out of the palm of their hand.

You're just too dumb to see it.

Help me understand the type of divisive false messaging they'd be pushing my way (that I want to hear) for that to hold up?

There you go, you just don't get it. It doesn't have to be 'false messaging', just an extreme viewpoint.

Pick any topic and check out the bots arguing at the extreme ends of both sides of the argument. It's not rocket science.

theskull1

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 29, 2024, 05:40:50 AMWell there's the "Harris and Trump are no different" BS for a start.

Yes.. both sides completely shill for zionism.

Who's propagandising me to 'falsely' think this is true?

It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

RedHand88

Unguarded drop in boxes are a ridiculous idea to begin with. I'm old enough to remember the army coming in a helicopter to lift the ballot boxes at 10pm.

The country obsessed with blowing its own trumpet about democracy puts boxes in a public street with no protection, madness.

Eamonnca1

Quote from: RedHand88 on October 29, 2024, 10:34:52 AMUnguarded drop in boxes are a ridiculous idea to begin with. I'm old enough to remember the army coming in a helicopter to lift the ballot boxes at 10pm.

The country obsessed with blowing its own trumpet about democracy puts boxes in a public street with no protection, madness.

Historically this was a high trust society. Newspapers were sold in vending machines on the street where you could put in your money and you'd be trusted to take out just one paper, even though there was nothing stopping you from taking them all.

The unguarded ballot boxes were just a product of a time where nobody imagined that right wing extremists would want to burn them. That'll probably change now.

seafoid

https://www.ft.com/content/ef885f29-96a0-4255-a738-304e452609f1

Trump is at the very least "fascistic" and can be credibly called a fascist. In interviews with the New York Times, John Kelly, the former US Marines general who was his longest serving chief of staff, is reported as stating that, "in his opinion, Mr Trump met the definition of a fascist, would govern like a dictator if allowed, and had no understanding of the Constitution or the concept of rule of law". Moreover, Trump "never accepted the fact that he wasn't the most powerful man in the world — and by power, I mean an ability to do anything he wanted, anytime he wanted
".

For Timothy Snyder, a leading historian of the 1930s and 1940s in Europe, fascism is "a cult of will over reason; it's life inside a Big Lie; it's a transformation of politics into a cult of a leader who tells a Big Lie and who is able to establish himself as the person whose will should dominate society". To this, adds Anne Applebaum, another well-known expert, Trump has described his opponents as "vermin", again a characteristic of fascist (and Stalinist) rhetoric. The recent "blood libels" about Haitians as consumers of pets fit into fascist denigration of some people as subhuman.

whitey

It's crazy that this is even close

Kamala might still win but, my God, could they have found a more terrible candidate?

She actually makes Sarah Palin appear competent

Milltown Row2

Trump is 1/2 going to need another sniper to stop him
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Captain Obvious

If Trump wins it will prove the USA has become more stupid than the last time he became president. 

Eamonnca1

Betting odds are more volatile than polling data. On the one hand this is looking ominously like Clinton's broad-but-shallow lead in the swing states in the last days of the 2016 campaign. On the other hand I'm hearing reports of long lines of early voters in NC and GA, plus quite a bit of backlash from the Madison Square Garden debacle. Hopefully that'll be the point where he lost the election. Puerto Ricans make up 8% of the people who live in PA.

There's also the trauma of 2016 that's still fresh in the memory of Democrats, so there'll be no complacency this time and plenty of motivation to vote. They dying off of boomers and coming-of-age of new voters since then will also help.

Mourne Red

Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 29, 2024, 08:06:57 PMIf Trump wins it will prove the USA has become more stupid than the last time he became president. 

Pot Kettle Black.. SF/DUP and FF/FG over here on both sides 

AustinPowers

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2024, 07:58:28 PMTrump is 1/2 going to need another sniper to stop him

You might jest , but  I honestly think if he  gets in , I'd put good money on him being taken  out before his four years are up

whitey

Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 29, 2024, 08:06:57 PMIf Trump wins it will prove the USA has become more stupid than the last time he became president. 

Having lived her for close to 40 years I can assure you that the Democrats have just as many idiotic supporters as Trump

Milltown Row2

Quote from: whitey on October 29, 2024, 10:24:26 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 29, 2024, 08:06:57 PMIf Trump wins it will prove the USA has become more stupid than the last time he became president. 

Having lived her for close to 40 years I can assure you that the Democrats have just as many idiotic supporters as Trump

So is that a yes?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.