Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[RedHand88]

Just seen footage of some county player with his club Esstymon in Clare playing keepy-uppys in the middle of the field not an opponent near him. They scored 2 points apparently. Such an insult to Gaelic football.
Is a disgrace what coaches have done to our game. I didn't even bother to put on the Derry semi-final on RTÉ last night. Have been told I made the right decision...
and we used slag off soccer!

Modern soccer is great to watch, especially in England. Every team plays some version of 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1. All very attacking, even at the bottom of the league. It's honestly a better spectacle that anything Gaelic Football is throwing up at the minute.

[Truthsayer]

Just seen footage of some county player with his club Esstymon in Clare playing keepy-uppys in the middle of the field not an opponent near him. They scored 2 points apparently. Such an insult to Gaelic football.
Is a disgrace what coaches have done to our game. I didn't even bother to put on the Derry semi-final on RTÉ last night. Have been told I made the right decision...
and we used slag off soccer!

Modern soccer is great to watch, especially in England. Every team plays some version of 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1. All very attacking, even at the bottom of the league. It's honestly a better spectacle that anything Gaelic Football is throwing up at the minute.

I've always enjoyed soccer but is true often it was slagged off by GAA people. Be hard to slag it off now. I agree with you, most Gaelic football now is negative and mindnunbing.

[Keyser soze]

Just seen footage of some county player with his club Esstymon in Clare playing keepy-uppys in the middle of the field not an opponent near him. They scored 2 points apparently. Such an insult to Gaelic football.
Is a disgrace what coaches have done to our game. I didn't even bother to put on the Derry semi-final on RTÉ last night. Have been told I made the right decision...
and we used slag off soccer!

It's Ennistymon.

[clonian]

Just seen footage of some county player with his club Esstymon in Clare playing keepy-uppys in the middle of the field not an opponent near him. They scored 2 points apparently. Such an insult to Gaelic football.
Is a disgrace what coaches have done to our game. I didn't even bother to put on the Derry semi-final on RTÉ last night. Have been told I made the right decision...
and we used slag off soccer!

Modern soccer is great to watch, especially in England. Every team plays some version of 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1. All very attacking, even at the bottom of the league. It's honestly a better spectacle that anything Gaelic Football is throwing up at the minute.

I've always enjoyed soccer but is true often it was slagged off by GAA people. Be hard to slag it off now. I agree with you, most Gaelic football now is negative and mindnunbing.

I have started to watch a bit of local soccer too and even at the 3rd tier in the north the games are more entertaining than most club games.

[JoG2]

https://x.com/SmallerFishGAA/status/1845545520938267056

This is exactly why we need 3v3.

I don't see it helping.

What we really need, or more like need to do, is just boycott games.

Couldn't believe the crowd in Newry today for what was inevitably dreadful football and a foregone conclusion.

I think / hope it will help. I was at a few games over the weekend and caught the Sat evening game on rte. Two of the games, the teams setup with 2 men kept up at all times and they were a great watch. You had the inside forwards trying to steal a yard on their defenders (like the good old days) allowing for the early ball in with support players joining in.
In comparison, the 2 senior games, a dozen men including the shooters sprinting to get back along the 45 to create a 15 man defensive line, then crab football it up the pitch.. Awful to watch

Could be a real game changer imo, but we'll see in due course

[Rossfan]

Is there any need to make a rule the 3 must stay back?
Once 3 have to stay forward won't teams keep 3 or more likely 4 back to mark  and watch them?
They could risk firing loads of lads up for an attack but if it's turned over... 😬.

I imagine this rule will be passed anyway but may have to be revisited as controversy may reign..."they had only 2 men in the other half when they scored the winning point"

I hope the arc and the 2 and 4 pointers get binned and also the requirement for kick outs to go beyond the 45.
Could we have a rule that a ball caught from a kickout inside 45 must be played or carried to outside the 45?

[imtommygunn]

Fuel for the need for rule changes...

[The Boy Wonder]

Any details of teams/panels involved in trial matches this coming weekend ?

[gallsman]

Yes.

45s would be 1pt

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/1009/1474480-proposed-football-rules-explained-scoring-system/

2pts for a 45 according to this. Happy to be corrected if you've a different source.

EDIT - have just seen your follow up. Rte and BBC reporting two different things entirely. I'd not be in favour of 45s being worth anything extra at all given it's a free.

Frees outside the 40m arc and 45s confirmed as worth two points.

[Saffron_sam20]

Yes.

45s would be 1pt

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/1009/1474480-proposed-football-rules-explained-scoring-system/

2pts for a 45 according to this. Happy to be corrected if you've a different source.

EDIT - have just seen your follow up. Rte and BBC reporting two different things entirely. I'd not be in favour of 45s being worth anything extra at all given it's a free.

Frees outside the 40m arc and 45s confirmed as worth two points.

There's no way the score one will get through. At most I'd say the 3 in the half which is gonna be a refs nightmare. And the change to the mark. Only good thing bout the change in the mark it'll stop players playing a wee pop pass to someone just inside the 46 and them firing the hand up to then just play a quick free

[lurganblue]

It will be interesting to see how it goes tonight but i'd agree with some of what Connaire Mackin says here... https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/1017/1476012-running-the-rule-players-on-which-change-excites/

The 3v3 thing is player limiting and a nightmare for local refs. I really think it would be much easier to implement a point of no return for attacking teams like in basketball, which would force the attacking team to make use quickly once they cross say the opposition 45.

[johnnycool]

It will be interesting to see how it goes tonight but i'd agree with some of what Connaire Mackin says here... https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/1017/1476012-running-the-rule-players-on-which-change-excites/

The 3v3 thing is player limiting and a nightmare for local refs. I really think it would be much easier to implement a point of no return for attacking teams like in basketball, which would force the attacking team to make use quickly once they cross say the opposition 45.

But would the "point of no return" thing be inclined to crowd defenses even more?

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

It will be interesting to see how it goes tonight but i'd agree with some of what Connaire Mackin says here... https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/1017/1476012-running-the-rule-players-on-which-change-excites/

The 3v3 thing is player limiting and a nightmare for local refs. I really think it would be much easier to implement a point of no return for attacking teams like in basketball, which would force the attacking team to make use quickly once they cross say the opposition 45.

But would the "point of no return" thing be inclined to crowd defenses even more?

Exactly. The problem is fundamentally caused by teams packing their defence. This would reward that.

[lurganblue]

Maybe, but they're already packed and scores can be created. The problem is the constant recycling back outside. Reducing the sides to 13 is an option.

[thewobbler]

I'm still scratching my head as to how they can come up with a bundle of experimental rules, and not have a backcourt rule amongst them.

Possession football isn't evil.

Possession football with endless opportunity to recycle and start again is worse than evil. It's the devil taking a shit on our sport.