Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

Big donkeys can stand on the edge of the square and move in on top of the goalkeeper as soon as the ball is kicked under the current rule. Is there any real difference if the big donkey is on top of the keeper to begin with?

I agree with Sportacus. It is a damn hard rule for referees to police. They must be guessing most of the time.

[gallsman]

Yes, because they can block the keeper completely and prevent them from so much as challenging for the ball if they can't get a few steps at it.

[Sportacus]

Probably for the best you let it go having demonstrated no knowledge of the rule whatsoever. Have no idea what hassle you're referring to as I can't remember any really high profile incidents of anyone kicking up a fuss over a square ball. Do players on either side yap if the decision goes against them? Of course they do.

I'm certainly not in favour of big donkeys standing two feet off the line having ball after ball pumped in on top of them in the hope they can get a hand to one.

Happens regularly up and down the country. You only have to go back to last weeks Down semifinal for a case in point.
(And I'm well aware what the rule is thanks for asking, just called it wrong earlier - probably why I said "probably").

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

They can easily do that under the current rule if they wish. Ball kicked....2 steps and you're on top of him, blocking him or whatever long before the ball is in there.
There was a point to the old rule, along the lines of what you are saying. And it was much easier policed. But not the current one.

[Saffron_sam20]

Watched first half of tyrone junior final there. Great game, quality maybe a bit lacking but 2 teams going for it. Compared the complete shambles on RTE last night.  Just shows the game doesn't need rule changes just teams who want to go for it and managers who want to win more than don't want to lose

[thewobbler]

Watched first half of tyrone junior final there. Great game, quality maybe a bit lacking but 2 teams going for it. Compared the complete shambles on RTE last night.  Just shows the game doesn't need rule changes just teams who want to go for it and managers who want to win more than don't want to lose

The game needs changes for that very reason.

[Saffron_sam20]

Watched first half of tyrone junior final there. Great game, quality maybe a bit lacking but 2 teams going for it. Compared the complete shambles on RTE last night.  Just shows the game doesn't need rule changes just teams who want to go for it and managers who want to win more than don't want to lose

The game needs changes for that very reason.

Regardless of changes, negative coaches and managers will be negative, what we need is a change in mindset. Granted it's easier to change rules than mindsets lol

[RedHand88]

https://x.com/SmallerFishGAA/status/1845545520938267056

This is exactly why we need 3v3.

[thewobbler]

https://x.com/SmallerFishGAA/status/1845545520938267056

This is exactly why we need 3v3.

I don't see it helping.

What we really need, or more like need to do, is just boycott games.

Couldn't believe the crowd in Newry today for what was inevitably dreadful football and a foregone conclusion.

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

If the crowds decrease, do players & managers stop with this shite?

Or what way does it pan out?

[AustinPowers]

https://x.com/SmallerFishGAA/status/1845545520938267056

This is exactly why we need 3v3.

Why don't teams leave a couple of players up  top all the time anyway? Keepers wouldn't come out as far if 2  forwards are on their 21 yard line. They'd  have to stay back. And  all the defenders wouldn't venture  into the opponents half

Work like terriers in  defence, win the ball  and hoof  it up to the 2 forwards. Goal. Problem solved.

[thewobbler]

If the crowds decrease, do players & managers stop with this shite?

Or what way does it pan out?

Yep.

Might take a few years, but yep.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing" only rings true when a wider population give validation.

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

Ballyholland reach the All Ireland final with defensive muck, you're there with your face painted though. Aren't you?

[thewobbler]

Ballyholland reach the All Ireland final with defensive muck, you're there with your face painted though. Aren't you?

No doubt.

No doubt at all.

But in the past 5 years I've paid into 2 games that didn't involve Ballyholland. This year's AI final. Last year's USFC Down v Donegal.

I would have happily driven the country to watch football in the noughties, but can longer stand being bored out of my scone.

I'm not completely absolved btw, for I'm still prone to paying for streamed matches. But the day of not doing that is getting very close.

We suffer from a form of Stockholm Syndrome. Until we start ignoring our kidnappers, it's never going to change.

[Truthsayer]

Just seen footage of some county player with his club Esstymon in Clare playing keepy-uppys in the middle of the field not an opponent near him. They scored 2 points apparently. Such an insult to Gaelic football.
Is a disgrace what coaches have done to our game. I didn't even bother to put on the Derry semi-final on RTÉ last night. Have been told I made the right decision...
and we used slag off soccer!