Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2024/10/12/malachy-clerkin-the-frcs-dissent-proposals-will-change-gaelic-football-as-much-as-the-gameplay-ones/

Moving the ball 50 metres up the pitch is something that has been mooted as a possible punishment for any number of the game's ills over the years but it has never been brought into being – or ever really come close. But if the FRC motions get through, it could bring about a complete sea-change in how players and coaches deal with referees.

If Motion 34 gets through, any dissent towards a referee by anybody on the pitch will result in the ball being brought 50 metres up the pitch. If Motion 35 gets through, only the team captain – or, a player nominated by the captain if the captain is a goalkeeper – can ask the referee why a free was given. Anyone else asks for clarification, the ball gets moved up 50 metres.




There's more – and not just for stuff that happens on the pitch itself. If Motion 49 is passed, any manager, coach or non-playing substitute who shouts abuse at a referee/linesman/umpire will see their team punished to the tune of a 13-metre free. Or, if the kicking team prefers, a 40-metre free straight in front of the posts, which will be worth two points.

The 50-metre punishment will come in for other stuff too, mostly around the annoying carry-on after players give away frees or sideline balls. Under the new rules, if you hold on to the ball after a free is given, or if you roll the ball away, or even if you give the ball to the referee you get penalised to the tune of 50 metres. In fact, the proposal says that players who are in possession must "hand the ball to their opponents" after conceding a free, otherwise they'll be hit with a 50-metre tax.

[J70]

That would be a fantastic rule to bring in. Cut out a lot of the nonsense in one fell swoop.

[RedHand88]

Draconian stuff. But maybe needed? Bigger issue is fan abuse but not sure what you can do about that.

[marty34]

That would be a fantastic rule to bring in. Cut out a lot of the nonsense in one fell swoop.

Yeah, that would cut a lot of the messing about out for sure.  Hopefully it's implentmented in full.

It would make the game a lot better.

[gallsman]

Yes.

45s would be 1pt

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/1009/1474480-proposed-football-rules-explained-scoring-system/

2pts for a 45 according to this. Happy to be corrected if you've a different source.

EDIT - have just seen your follow up. Rte and BBC reporting two different things entirely. I'd not be in favour of 45s being worth anything extra at all given it's a free.

[Sportacus]

Probably a square ball there to win that Derry championship 'game'.
Almost impossible to call it in real time.
Could they not scrap it when they are tinkering with the rule book.  It just creates hassle.

[Brendan]

Probably a square ball there to win that Derry championship 'game'.
Almost impossible to call it in real time.
Could they not scrap it when they are tinkering with the rule book.  It just creates hassle.

Kick came in from play so was no where near a square ball

[GTP]

The proposals do include a change to make the square ball rule consistent from free kicks. So you can enter once ball kicked. The poor shot dropped short will be much more valuable with a 4 point goal on offer.

[gallsman]

Probably a square ball there to win that Derry championship 'game'.
Almost impossible to call it in real time.
Could they not scrap it when they are tinkering with the rule book.  It just creates hassle.

Clearly wasn't a square ball at all. Not even close.

[Saffrongael]

Probably a square ball there to win that Derry championship 'game'.
Almost impossible to call it in real time.
Could they not scrap it when they are tinkering with the rule book.  It just creates hassle.

Clearly wasn't a square ball at all. Not even close.

It wasn't close & Marty Morrissey after all these years still doesent know the square ball rule & the difference from play and a free

[gallsman]

Problem is Marty is far from the only one. Many people up and down the country as players, management or, in particular, spectators as evidenced above, don't appear to have the slightest clue.

[Sportacus]

What's the point of square ball?  To me it just creates aggro.  Often blink of an eye decision, impossible for officials.

[gallsman]

To stop players standing in on top of a keeper

[Sportacus]

To stop players standing in on top of a keeper

The benefit of that is less than the hassle it creates.  Just a personal opinion, I'd scrap it in the morning. One less headache for all concerned.

[gallsman]

Probably for the best you let it go having demonstrated no knowledge of the rule whatsoever. Have no idea what hassle you're referring to as I can't remember any really high profile incidents of anyone kicking up a fuss over a square ball. Do players on either side yap if the decision goes against them? Of course they do.

I'm certainly not in favour of big donkeys standing two feet off the line having ball after ball pumped in on top of them in the hope they can get a hand to one.