Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[maldini]

I like the tap & go rule with frees

What's the point in the 1 v 1 for the throw ups? How's that going to make games be less negative?

It's going to be hard for your average club refs to police a lot of these.
One team on the attack they will have to turn and count the number of people in the other half while keeping an eye on where a shot is being taken from to see if it's a 2 pointer

[Milltown Row2]

I like the tap & go rule with frees

What's the point in the 1 v 1 for the throw ups? How's that going to make games be less negative?

It's going to be hard for your average club refs to police a lot of these.
One team on the attack they will have to turn and count the number of people in the other half while keeping an eye on where a shot is being taken from to see if it's a 2 pointer

Again I question the understanding these people have of 99% of the actual playing membership.

Completely elitist

[StephenC]

It'll be interesting to see whether the 2pt/4pt dynamic creates a situation similar to Basketball, where the worst shots to take are 'long 2s'. The highest % shots will become 2pt'ers and goals, so teams will focus on generating shots in that area. Shooting 21% from 2pt range will be better than shooting 40% from 1pt range.

[gallsman]

It undoubtedly will, and teams and coaches would be stupid not to adapt as such. Basketball as you say is primarily now high % efforts in the paint (layups and dunks) and 3s, so we'll likely see minimal attempts from, what, say the 25-40m range?

What you'll see is a lot of set play ball movement to get it to the free, high % 3 point shooter. We may be seeing a lot more hand signals from Armagh players moving up the pitch.

[Wildweasel74]

Too many rules already. And we adding a ton more, just more problems for the ref.

[marty34]

Too many rules already. And we adding a ton more, just more problems for the ref.

The ref., especially in club games is the last person they're worried bout unfortunately.

All about the gimmicky displays etc.

[Rossfan]

Shouldn't Refs be speaking out behind the scenes?

[Milltown Row2]

Shouldn't Refs be speaking out behind the scenes?

Behind the scenes? was there no current refs part of this team?

[lurganblue]

Shouldn't Refs be speaking out behind the scenes?

Why not publicly? We dont hear enough from them in fairness.

[thewobbler]

I'd be really quite unwilling to favour rule changes that increase the pressure on referees. For the fundamental reason that the culture in our game towards referees is broken. They are treated as pariahs, not arbitrators.

Tying the value of a score to a person's position on the field, significantly increases the pressure on a referee. They can "steal" or "gift" points to the competitors by being caught out in the wrong position to make a clear judgement, or worse again by glancing around to count the players in each half just before the strike.

So, in short. f**k that for a game of darts.

[general_lee]

I'd be really quite unwilling to favour rule changes that increase the pressure on referees. For the fundamental reason that the culture in our game towards referees is broken. They are treated as pariahs, not arbitrators.

Tying the value of a score to a person's position on the field, significantly increases the pressure on a referee. They can "steal" or "gift" points to the competitors by being caught out in the wrong position to make a clear judgement, or worse again by glancing around to count the players in each half just before the strike.

So, in short. f**k that for a game of darts.

Agreed. Refs have it hard enough as it is.

[Keyser soze]

The working group has not even mentioned the tackle in their proposals. Instead what they've produced is mostly a load of completely unworkable nonsense. [tap and go and penalties for dissent aside]. There are a lot of smart football men on that committee but they've completely lost the run of themselves. I'm not completely au fait with what the TOR were for the committee but it would be impossible to work out what they were from the proposals they have come up with.

As I've said in the past, and others have pointed out here, the preponderance of the blanket defence, with its consequent slow buildup, ball retention and sideways passing etc, has resulted from the increase in referees allowing swarm tackling. It pays for teams to tackle in swarms. This is THE issue contributing to the stagnation in our game. Not a single sentence or proposal to address this. 

Rubbish, must do better.

[illdecide]

Can you imagine a game in injury time and a team 1 point behind and he hits what he thinks is a 2 pointer but ref reckons he was just inside the line or on it and gives 1 point...be some fighting and arguing over this ahead. Impossible to police it and as someone said there when the attack is on the Ref has to turn around and count the players in the other half...

[lurganblue]

On a side note, what is the new signal that a 2 pointer has been scored?  We are all used to checking what the umpire does, but presumably they have no say in whether it was a 2 pointer. Does the ref hold up 1 arm for inside the 40 arc and 2 arms for outside the 40 arc? Or the peace symbol?

[Rossfan]

Red flag for 2 pointer.
Does the new advanced mark proposal apply to defenders as well?
Defender catches ball, ref blows for Mark....can defender play on and then go back to the mark if he gets bottled up?