Antrim Football Thread

[inabsentia]

Going by what has been explained here they would have to go up?

St Paul's go up to 1 don't they based on league?

Yeah, Ballymena are playing St Pauls and Sarsfields are playing St Teresas.

Whoever wins the second game will get promoted automatically to SFC and div 1 as the other side are both already in div 1 or have won promotion.

Next year, Ballymena will be SFC and Dunloy are back to intermediate and the leagues and championship should be fully aligned

Incorrect.

Regulations do not allow for Ballymena to be promoted to Senior Championship unless they win Intermediate.

When regulations were written Ballymena could have got promoted as runners up in Intermediate Championship but that is now off the table as they play league winners St Pauls in the semi final.

I understood it to be the other side of the Dunloy relegation, meaning if they weren't relegated Ballymena remained in div 2.

I'm not sure you're right because that will mean 3 down 2 up, which makes the championships even more uneven

[Delgany 2nds]

Going by what has been explained here they would have to go up?

St Paul's go up to 1 don't they based on league?

Yeah, Ballymena are playing St Pauls and Sarsfields are playing St Teresas.

Whoever wins the second game will get promoted automatically to SFC and div 1 as the other side are both already in div 1 or have won promotion.

Next year, Ballymena will be SFC and Dunloy are back to intermediate and the leagues and championship should be fully aligned

Incorrect.

Regulations do not allow for Ballymena to be promoted to Senior Championship unless they win Intermediate.

When regulations were written Ballymena could have got promoted as runners up in Intermediate Championship but that is now off the table as they play league winners St Pauls in the semi final.

I understood it to be the other side of the Dunloy relegation, meaning if they weren't relegated Ballymena remained in div 2.

I'm not sure you're right because that will mean 3 down 2 up, which makes the championships even more uneven

Dunloy & Glenravel or St.Endas relegated via SFC
Moneyglass relegated via Div1 League

Ballymena already in Div 1
St Pauls promoted via Div 2 League win
St Teresa or Sarsfields to take 3rd spot.

League & Championship entered to align for 2025.

[Hectic]

Regulations badly written and do not cover all eventualities.

As it stands, and even if Ballymena win Intermediate Championship, there is a question over the 16th Senior place next year.

All teams had a league and a championship route to either get promoted or demoted.

League route is St Paul's up, Moneyglass down.

Championship route is to be determined but one of Glenravel and St Endas down with Intermediate winners up.  Unless St Paul's win Intermediate in which case will be a playoff between Intermediate Championship runners up and Div 2 league runners up (no playoff necessary if same team i.e. St Teresa's).

Dunloy the anomaly. If they are indeed opting to return to Intermediate (not written) then that leaves another place via championship promotion/relegation it seems.  But again nothing written as to who gets this place.

In this currently hypothetical situation do Dunloy count as the relegated team from Senior Championship route to be replaced by Intermediate winners or runners up as above?  Or do two teams get promoted via Intermediate Championship with two (Dunloy and losers of Endas Glenravel) going down. Or is it a 15 team senior league and championship? Or something else.

Not accounted for so anyone's guess.

[paddyjohn]

See my post a few back - nothing will change.

The county have made such a hash of the whole thing that one club will have an issue and it'll be kept the same.

It's a complete shambles of a situation.

[Delgany 2nds]

Thd only way Dunloy could stay SFC in was if they got to semi final and were seeded for 2025.
This was the reason why Ballymena  played  in IFC for 2024, to accommodate Dunloy. An anomaly , that had been ironed out.

[EOC1923]

All over my head and sounds a complete mess no surprise..

Changing the subject, what about Casement lads? how will this ever be sorted?

[Hectic]

Thd only way Dunloy could stay SFC in was if they got to semi final and were seeded for 2025.
This was the reason why Ballymena  played  in IFC for 2024, to accommodate Dunloy. An anomaly , that had been ironed out.

Not according to the written regulations.

I am actually curious as to why it was Ballymena that stayed Intermediate and not Aldergrove given Ballymena were runners up last year.

But enough already not accounted for as it stands without starting to worry about that.

[Hectic]

All over my head and sounds a complete mess no surprise..

Changing the subject, what about Casement lads? how will this ever be sorted?

Focus on getting a GAA stadium built, that's how.

[bannside]

Well Antrim handed over the keys on the grounds that Ulster Gaa were going to build them a first class new stadium. To me that's still a commitment.

The whole Euro thing was just a distraction, in reality not many Gaels will lose any sleep over soccer not being played there.

In this order...

Do the math on what funds are now currently available....is it the £120m alluded to here earlier, or are there costs or penalties to be deducted from that. Get the Nett figure.

Then be bold enough to see whatever else CAN be squeezed from UK govt and Irish govt. Could they both go another £50m or £50E.

Add up the new total. Learn from previous, and build whatever can be afforded within the new budget.

Confident future Antrim Gaels will get their new stadium....and it certainly dosent need to hold 34 thousand!

[Hectic]

That's pretty much my view BS - should be fit to build a fine stadium for GAA with what funding is available and can be further squeezed.

It was almost turning into a vanity project for a while but it will be a fine stadium regardless.

[NorthAntrim]

Thd only way Dunloy could stay SFC in was if they got to semi final and were seeded for 2025.
This was the reason why Ballymena  played  in IFC for 2024, to accommodate Dunloy. An anomaly , that had been ironed out.

Not according to the written regulations.

I am actually curious as to why it was Ballymena that stayed Intermediate and not Aldergrove given Ballymena were runners up last year.

But enough already not accounted for as it stands without starting to worry about that.

 They kept Dunloy senior after they made the county final (championship) Ballymena played Intermediate because they were the lowest ranked club(3rd in the league)

Makes sense

[NorthAntrim]

We need to forget about this stadium. Modern version of what stood there 13 years ago. Terrace area and a good quality stand to accomodate what we as Antrim people need and have missed for 11+ years. Floodlight, good surface, comfortable stand for our County finals and League and championship County games

Should never have been closed. Pitch was in excellent condition, yes the stand was run down but by God. Standing on the terrace of Casement or the grass hill of Corrigan. The gates shouldve been closed when the diggers were about to move in, contractors sorted and planning finalised. Whoever made that decision has cost hundreds of Antrim gaels a home

[paddyjohn]

We need to forget about this stadium. Modern version of what stood there 13 years ago. Terrace area and a good quality stand to accomodate what we as Antrim people need and have missed for 11+ years. Floodlight, good surface, comfortable stand for our County finals and League and championship County games

Should never have been closed. Pitch was in excellent condition, yes the stand was run down but by God. Standing on the terrace of Casement or the grass hill of Corrigan. The gates shouldve been closed when the diggers were about to move in, contractors sorted and planning finalised. Whoever made that decision has cost hundreds of Antrim gaels a home

Exactly. Shambles

[SaffronSports]

I can't understand how they can't just let the league and championship work as different comps. If you're shit at the league stage of the year you'll probably be shit at that time again next year. There are anomalies in Antrim with it being a dual county and Dunloy the very obvious one but look at Sarsfields in the hurling too, Creggan the year before. teams have different players available at different times of year so have them completely separate imo.

[Hectic]

Thd only way Dunloy could stay SFC in was if they got to semi final and were seeded for 2025.
This was the reason why Ballymena  played  in IFC for 2024, to accommodate Dunloy. An anomaly , that had been ironed out.

Not according to the written regulations.

I am actually curious as to why it was Ballymena that stayed Intermediate and not Aldergrove given Ballymena were runners up last year.

But enough already not accounted for as it stands without starting to worry about that.

 They kept Dunloy senior after they made the county final (championship) Ballymena played Intermediate because they were the lowest ranked club(3rd in the league)

Makes sense

Does that make sense to you?

For me it would make more sense to promote to Senior Championship based on championship performance.

In much same way as this year where there are both league and championship paths for promotion and relegation - and they are stand alone.