Tyrone County Football and Hurling

Started by Fear ón Srath Bán, April 01, 2007, 05:58:31 PM

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It's time for Owen Mulligan to step up.  He's wasted in punditry.  I'd like to see him and Sean Cavanagh take the reins


RedHand88

Quote from: Walter Cronc on June 24, 2024, 10:41:49 PM6k at Omagh. What has happened the Tyrone support lads? Not taking the p*ss.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on June 24, 2024, 10:41:49 PM6k at Omagh. What has happened the Tyrone support lads? Not taking the p*ss.

All the talk outside Mass on Sunday was how well the club are doing. I didn't even hear Tyrone mentioned. There is a serious apathy in the county at the minute.

Walter Cronc

Quote from: Truthsayer on June 24, 2024, 10:55:27 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on June 24, 2024, 10:41:49 PM6k at Omagh. What has happened the Tyrone support lads? Not taking the p*ss.
Same all over the country. Too many games. They're overkilling the championship. Games overlapping on TV as well. I went to Clare game in Omagh £22 for an endurance test. Another trip to Croke Park next week if they'd won.. ffs!
Going to all my clubs senior games, men and ladies, and they had games on Friday and Sunday.
Give us a break. There's far too many county championship games. Jees! Derry have lost 3 times and are still there. Nah, too much to take it all in...
and Tyrone - Roscommon not exactly enticing. Don't think the Tyrone players could even get motivated for it!
 

Ah but Tyrone were in the top 2/3 best supported teams for a long long time. It's not like Derry where it flip flops based on success.

Truthsayer

Quote from: Walter Cronc on June 25, 2024, 08:27:58 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 24, 2024, 10:55:27 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on June 24, 2024, 10:41:49 PM6k at Omagh. What has happened the Tyrone support lads? Not taking the p*ss.
Same all over the country. Too many games. They're overkilling the championship. Games overlapping on TV as well. I went to Clare game in Omagh £22 for an endurance test. Another trip to Croke Park next week if they'd won.. ffs!
Going to all my clubs senior games, men and ladies, and they had games on Friday and Sunday.
Give us a break. There's far too many county championship games. Jees! Derry have lost 3 times and are still there. Nah, too much to take it all in...
and Tyrone - Roscommon not exactly enticing. Don't think the Tyrone players could even get motivated for it!
 

Ah but Tyrone were in the top 2/3 best supported teams for a long long time. It's not like Derry where it flip flops based on success.
For a long long time when there wasnt so many games and they weren't all live on TV. Its total overkill.

LeoMc

Quote from: Walter Cronc on June 25, 2024, 08:27:58 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 24, 2024, 10:55:27 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on June 24, 2024, 10:41:49 PM6k at Omagh. What has happened the Tyrone support lads? Not taking the p*ss.
Same all over the country. Too many games. They're overkilling the championship. Games overlapping on TV as well. I went to Clare game in Omagh £22 for an endurance test. Another trip to Croke Park next week if they'd won.. ffs!
Going to all my clubs senior games, men and ladies, and they had games on Friday and Sunday.
Give us a break. There's far too many county championship games. Jees! Derry have lost 3 times and are still there. Nah, too much to take it all in...
and Tyrone - Roscommon not exactly enticing. Don't think the Tyrone players could even get motivated for it!
 

Ah but Tyrone were in the top 2/3 best supported teams for a long long time. It's not like Derry where it flip flops based on success.
;D Well played.

tyroneman

L&D are true Tyrone men, legends, and you would imagine (hope) they will look to do what is best for the County. Hopefully that means they will pass the torch on to someone else. If they stay, and another season unfolds like this one, their legacy becomes in danger of being tarnished.

Everyone was so hopefull after 2021 and thought we were set for another lengthy run at the top table. Unfortunately, since then, there seems to have been little evidence of positive progression and development in terms of style, patterns of play, gameplan or in game management.

While we have generally been able to beat the mediocre teams we have typically been outclassed by the good teams, scraping by in the League and miles off genuinely troubling an AI final

Any memorable wins  / comebacks looked like they were achived through player muscle memory and indivdual grit / brilliance, not from anything done on the sideline. I certainly struggle to think of many tactical changes that positively affected the momentum in a game.

We sit, 3 years after an AI win, no longer as peers of Dublin, Kerry, Derry, Galway, Donegal or even Armagh, instead we are now a level below. (not really sure where you would put Mayo)

Yes, we have blooded players, however a lot of that was out of necessity with more experienced players walking away from the panel. We cannot afford for that to happen with the x2 AI winning u20 teams.

The first half in Omagh was the worst I have seen Tyrone produce in a long, long time. No energy, no urgency, no tactics worth mentioning, no bite, no hunger, no aggression. Sauntering back after being turned over, barely putting pressure on the kickers, lazy tackling, aimless recyling and strolling forward with the ball rather than trying to make quick progression up the feild.

And Conn sitting on the bench all the way through that first half disaster, when we were getting cleaned out in MF - wtf? Changes should have been made after 15min and a clear message sent to the players staying on the pitch (in truth up to 10 or 11 of them could have been changed) that this wasn't good enough.

The only way they could go was up in the second half and even then a semi coherant plan would probably have been enough to get over the line. Better effort and reclaiming some personal pride, rather than any tactical nous did a bit to close the gap. But that wasn't enough.


Truthsayer

Quote from: tyroneman on June 25, 2024, 10:58:55 AML&D are true Tyrone men, legends, and you would imagine (hope) they will look to do what is best for the County. Hopefully that means they will pass the torch on to someone else. If they stay, and another season unfolds like this one, their legacy becomes in danger of being tarnished.

Everyone was so hopefull after 2021 and thought we were set for another lengthy run at the top table. Unfortunately, since then, there seems to have been little evidence of positive progression and development in terms of style, patterns of play, gameplan or in game management.

While we have generally been able to beat the mediocre teams we have typically been outclassed by the good teams, scraping by in the League and miles off genuinely troubling an AI final

Any memorable wins  / comebacks looked like they were achived through player muscle memory and indivdual grit / brilliance, not from anything done on the sideline. I certainly struggle to think of many tactical changes that positively affected the momentum in a game.

We sit, 3 years after an AI win, no longer as peers of Dublin, Kerry, Derry, Galway, Donegal or even Armagh, instead we are now a level below. (not really sure where you would put Mayo)

Yes, we have blooded players, however a lot of that was out of necessity with more experienced players walking away from the panel. We cannot afford for that to happen with the x2 AI winning u20 teams.

The first half in Omagh was the worst I have seen Tyrone produce in a long, long time. No energy, no urgency, no tactics worth mentioning, no bite, no hunger, no aggression. Sauntering back after being turned over, barely putting pressure on the kickers, lazy tackling, aimless recyling and strolling forward with the ball rather than trying to make quick progression up the feild.

And Conn sitting on the bench all the way through that first half disaster, when we were getting cleaned out in MF - wtf? Changes should have been made after 15min and a clear message sent to the players staying on the pitch (in truth up to 10 or 11 of them could have been changed) that this wasn't good enough.

The only way they could go was up in the second half and even then a semi coherant plan would probably have been enough to get over the line. Better effort and reclaiming some personal pride, rather than any tactical nous did a bit to close the gap. But that wasn't enough.


That's an extensive accurate analysis. Can't disagree with any of it and is very respectful to Brian and Feargal. But it clearly isn't working and time they stepped away with their dignity intact. They've give so much as players and managers to Tyrone. As we seen with previous manager is nothing worse than hanging on and on and on and tarnishing your achievements when it's long past time to go.

An Watcher

Fair enough comments except about Conn.  A flipping liability.  He probably would have got sent off in the first half.  These are the difficult decisions management have to take and I'm sure dooher was trying to teach him a lesson.  He's just right.  Unfortunately it was too late when he did come on.  If we do get a new manager he shouldn't stand for that sh1t from Kilpatrick

NotedObserver

Management will point to staying in Div 1 and the injuries to players who missed multiple games throughout year affecting perfomance

- Conall Devlin
- Michael McKernan (hand)
- Aidan Clarke
- Meyler
- Burns
- McGeary
- Harte
- Donnelly
- Conn
- Gray
- Oguz
- Michael ONeill
- Donaghy
- Cormac Quinn

I think there is more to it than injuries and there are players within the county that could contribute or been called up to fill gaps

Rebel84

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Quote from: NotedObserver on June 24, 2024, 11:03:37 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on June 24, 2024, 10:41:49 PM6k at Omagh. What has happened the Tyrone support lads? Not taking the p*ss.

We must have one of the worst support in the country. Especially for a div 1 side.

- style of play
- thoughts that the best county players are not all involved 
- all on tv

Now when they need a bit of support the support has dwindled which is v disappointing. However the club league games are v well attended


Cost of living is a massive factor as well, with inflation most people are approx 30% worse off than a few years ago (and if you aren't count yourself lucky). The fact that Tyrone won an unexpected All-Ireland only 3 seasons ago means the same appetite isn't there for supporters when you also add in the factors above. Derry and Armagh are getting more support than Tyrone atm but that's because they aren't as satisfied/content as the average Tyrone supporter that has experienced 4 All-Ireland wins since 2003.
Personally I now get more enjoyment out of going to club games in Tyrone as they are of a high standard as each game means something with the league being linked to championship and county players also available to play in the majority of league games.

ClubScene13

Quote from: Rebel84 on June 25, 2024, 07:24:18 PM
Quote from: NotedObserver on June 24, 2024, 11:03:37 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on June 24, 2024, 10:41:49 PM6k at Omagh. What has happened the Tyrone support lads? Not taking the p*ss.

We must have one of the worst support in the country. Especially for a div 1 side.

- style of play
- thoughts that the best county players are not all involved 
- all on tv

Now when they need a bit of support the support has dwindled which is v disappointing. However the club league games are v well attended


Cost of living is a massive factor as well, with inflation most people are approx 30% worse off than a few years ago (and if you aren't count yourself lucky). The fact that Tyrone won an unexpected All-Ireland only 3 seasons ago means the same appetite isn't there for supporters when you also add in the factors above. Derry and Armagh are getting more support than Tyrone atm but that's because they aren't as satisfied/content as the average Tyrone supporter that has experienced 4 All-Ireland wins since 2003.
Personally I now get more enjoyment out of going to club games in Tyrone as they are of a high standard as each game means something with the league being linked to championship and county players also available to play in the majority of league games.

Totally agree with all of this.

Delgany 2nds

Quote from: ClubScene13 on June 25, 2024, 08:55:04 PM
Quote from: Rebel84 on June 25, 2024, 07:24:18 PM
Quote from: NotedObserver on June 24, 2024, 11:03:37 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on June 24, 2024, 10:41:49 PM6k at Omagh. What has happened the Tyrone support lads? Not taking the p*ss.

We must have one of the worst support in the country. Especially for a div 1 side.

- style of play
- thoughts that the best county players are not all involved 
- all on tv

Now when they need a bit of support the support has dwindled which is v disappointing. However the club league games are v well attended


Cost of living is a massive factor as well, with inflation most people are approx 30% worse off than a few years ago (and if you aren't count yourself lucky). The fact that Tyrone won an unexpected All-Ireland only 3 seasons ago means the same appetite isn't there for supporters when you also add in the factors above. Derry and Armagh are getting more support than Tyrone atm but that's because they aren't as satisfied/content as the average Tyrone supporter that has experienced 4 All-Ireland wins since 2003.
Personally I now get more enjoyment out of going to club games in Tyrone as they are of a high standard as each game means something with the league being linked to championship and county players also available to play in the majority of league games.

Totally agree with all of this.

Too many non descript games, that are generally of poor quality,  charging premium prices...without any concessions for a standing option...is driving people away. Cost of living has impacted, a tyrone game in Omagh costs me about £60 / £65 for all expenses.just can't justify it anymore, especially when  it is on TV in living room 

God14

Not once during the entire season did Dooher give an update or breakdown on the injuries we had. Bizarre.

Mikhailov

I have seen quite a few club league games this year, mostly division 1. Few games were played on different nights, big attendances and most importantly some super individual & team perfornances.

By far the best football to watch