Antrim Football Thread

Started by theskull1, November 09, 2006, 11:48:40 PM

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Spike

The aim for next year is at least a win in the 1st round of the championship and promotion from Division 3 into Division 2.  That's it.

A good run in the TC and preservation of Division 3 status as our aims for next year is standing still. The bar has been lowered for the past 2 seasons until it is now lying on the ground. Lets not bury it.

NorthAntrim

Cant really say an aim is to win an ulster championship game. You could draw all ireland contenders in the first round! If we get a team closer to our level then yes we could do with getting over the line in one.

If we can get a good run and a lot of injuries cleared looking up rather than down in Division 3 would be great

Croke Park in the TC

Theres no reason we couldnt get to Croker 3 times next year

imtommygunn

Quote from: Spike on June 24, 2024, 01:31:47 PMThe aim for next year is at least a win in the 1st round of the championship and promotion from Division 3 into Division 2.  That's it.

A good run in the TC and preservation of Division 3 status as our aims for next year is standing still. The bar has been lowered for the past 2 seasons until it is now lying on the ground. Lets not bury it.

So we now have Clare, Sligo, Fermanagh and Kildare in there on top of Laois (then there's Offaly). That's a tough division. Aim high yes but if you don't hit as high as that then that's not failure.

BrendanAntrim

Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 24, 2024, 12:41:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2024, 12:34:41 PMMaintaining div3 again and good run in Championship and beating Fermanagh is a good season considering the players injured missing not selected

Exactly. Maybe a TC final this year wouldve been good, just to go a step further than last year. Credit to Laois, i thought they were decent. Kicked a lot of good scores and got a slice of luck with the second goal. Also think the occassion maybe got to some of our lads. How many shots had we easily blocked in front of the posts? four or five? But they will be back stronger

What an occassion though. The young and old out and about Croke Park. Sun out, fantastic day out result aside. Hopefully many more to come in the future.

Agree - that's two years in a row we have been in Croke Park in blazing sunshine, lots of familiar friendly faces, kids loving it. It would have been great to be back again in 3 weeks but we have to settle to aim for being back in 12 months time.

Spike

Quote from: imtommygunn on June 24, 2024, 02:43:43 PM
Quote from: Spike on June 24, 2024, 01:31:47 PMThe aim for next year is at least a win in the 1st round of the championship and promotion from Division 3 into Division 2.  That's it.

A good run in the TC and preservation of Division 3 status as our aims for next year is standing still. The bar has been lowered for the past 2 seasons until it is now lying on the ground. Lets not bury it.

So we now have Clare, Sligo, Fermanagh and Kildare in there on top of Laois (then there's Offaly). That's a tough division. Aim high yes but if you don't hit as high as that then that's not failure.

what are you expecting Division 2 to be like? a stroll in the park? excuses for another relegation battle on the table already.

but a nice day out in the sun in the intercounty version of the o'cahan cup will keep us content for another year.

imtommygunn

What are you talking about excuses? Who made excuses?

It's fine to be ambitious but you have to have realism in there  as well. You expect us to beat Sligo, Clare, Fermanagh, Kildare. Offaly, Wexford and Laois and think we're a failure if we don't?

Have you followed our county team much at all? Incremental progress is fine with me.

Sportacus

Have to laugh at people looking down their nose at the Tailteann Cup.  We have achieved absolutely nothing in the past 50 years. ZERO. So haven't earned the right to look down our noses at anyone.

And our underage teams are getting absolutely battered year in and year out, so we're at our level, if not above it presently.

I don't get very excited about the National League, but it's necessary for Antrim to try and find higher levels bit by bit. For me seeing Antrim in Croke Park is great and I'd love to see us in the TC Final sooner or later.

Spike

Quote from: imtommygunn on June 24, 2024, 04:33:49 PMWhat are you talking about excuses? Who made excuses?

It's fine to be ambitious but you have to have realism in there  as well. You expect us to beat Sligo, Clare, Fermanagh, Kildare. Offaly, Wexford and Laois and think we're a failure if we don't?

Have you followed our county team much at all? Incremental progress is fine with me.

Long time follower, long time realist.

there is no one in that group you just mentioned that are unbeatable. that is why they are in Division 3 after all and they will all be taking points off each other as well.

Progress? Relegation battle in the league. dumped out of championship by an average down side.  cant win a 2nd rate competition that no one cared about than us. 

Down were in Division 3 with us this year.  was their ambition at the start of the year to win the Tailteann?

I am 100% in the camp that looks down their nose at the Tailteann Cup. We are the only county in Ireland relishing getting back into it and that sums us up.
Rather than take the hard road of remedying the cause of our mediocrity we take the easy road. Winning the TC isn't going to solve our problems. All it will do is mask them for another year.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Spike on June 24, 2024, 05:42:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 24, 2024, 04:33:49 PMWhat are you talking about excuses? Who made excuses?

It's fine to be ambitious but you have to have realism in there  as well. You expect us to beat Sligo, Clare, Fermanagh, Kildare. Offaly, Wexford and Laois and think we're a failure if we don't?

Have you followed our county team much at all? Incremental progress is fine with me.

Long time follower, long time realist.

there is no one in that group you just mentioned that are unbeatable. that is why they are in Division 3 after all and they will all be taking points off each other as well.

Progress? Relegation battle in the league. dumped out of championship by an average down side.  cant win a 2nd rate competition that no one cared about than us. 

Down were in Division 3 with us this year.  was their ambition at the start of the year to win the Tailteann?

I am 100% in the camp that looks down their nose at the Tailteann Cup. We are the only county in Ireland relishing getting back into it and that sums us up.
Rather than take the hard road of remedying the cause of our mediocrity we take the easy road. Winning the TC isn't going to solve our problems. All it will do is mask them for another year.

I think we need to stop playing football and concentrate on hurling, wasting money and effort on it, it's obviously not entertaining nor successful but we keep at it.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Sportacus

Quote from: Spike on June 24, 2024, 05:42:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 24, 2024, 04:33:49 PMWhat are you talking about excuses? Who made excuses?

It's fine to be ambitious but you have to have realism in there  as well. You expect us to beat Sligo, Clare, Fermanagh, Kildare. Offaly, Wexford and Laois and think we're a failure if we don't?

Have you followed our county team much at all? Incremental progress is fine with me.

Long time follower, long time realist.

there is no one in that group you just mentioned that are unbeatable. that is why they are in Division 3 after all and they will all be taking points off each other as well.

Progress? Relegation battle in the league. dumped out of championship by an average down side.  cant win a 2nd rate competition that no one cared about than us. 

Down were in Division 3 with us this year.  was their ambition at the start of the year to win the Tailteann?

I am 100% in the camp that looks down their nose at the Tailteann Cup. We are the only county in Ireland relishing getting back into it and that sums us up.
Rather than take the hard road of remedying the cause of our mediocrity we take the easy road. Winning the TC isn't going to solve our problems. All it will do is mask them for another year.
I've no issue at all with thoughts of remedying the causes and not settling for mediocrity. But I'm also very happy to enjoy a run to Croke Park and seeing our footballers getting a bit of profile. TC is our level and if we were to win it one day in Croke Park it would be a major shot in the arm for everyone promoting football to our youngsters.
Wouldn't agree with you that other counties don't care.  Laois were over the moon, and Down and Sligo played themselves to a standstill.

imtommygunn

So we take this competition seriously and no one else does? How have you drawn that conclusion?

What difference does whether that was down's target make to us? Also that down side ran Armagh to a point and have all Ireland club champions in their midst too. They are mediocre for a down side but for this level of football are a half decent team.

By all means target promotion I would love us to be promoted but I am saying it will be bloody hard to get out of that division and if you deem Antrim, yes that's Antrim, as a failure for not doing so then one thing you are not is a realist.

Look down your nose all you want but further highlights lack of realism. It was all we had post championship so why not embrace it? You'd have been complaining were we dumped out of it early too.

Aim for the stars by all means but to get promoted I would say we will need to be 30-40% better. Possible yes but big ask.

JimStynes

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2024, 05:59:44 PM
Quote from: Spike on June 24, 2024, 05:42:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 24, 2024, 04:33:49 PMWhat are you talking about excuses? Who made excuses?

It's fine to be ambitious but you have to have realism in there  as well. You expect us to beat Sligo, Clare, Fermanagh, Kildare. Offaly, Wexford and Laois and think we're a failure if we don't?

Have you followed our county team much at all? Incremental progress is fine with me.

Long time follower, long time realist.

there is no one in that group you just mentioned that are unbeatable. that is why they are in Division 3 after all and they will all be taking points off each other as well.

Progress? Relegation battle in the league. dumped out of championship by an average down side.  cant win a 2nd rate competition that no one cared about than us. 

Down were in Division 3 with us this year.  was their ambition at the start of the year to win the Tailteann?

I am 100% in the camp that looks down their nose at the Tailteann Cup. We are the only county in Ireland relishing getting back into it and that sums us up.
Rather than take the hard road of remedying the cause of our mediocrity we take the easy road. Winning the TC isn't going to solve our problems. All it will do is mask them for another year.

I think we need to stop playing football and concentrate on hurling, wasting money and effort on it, it's obviously not entertaining nor successful but we keep at it.

Sure they're as far away in the hurling as they are in the football. The TC is a good competition for Antrim. It the level they're at and has brought them to Croke Park for the last 2 years! What would be the point playing in the All Ireland series currently??

Spike

Quote from: imtommygunn on June 24, 2024, 06:30:38 PMSo we take this competition seriously and no one else does? How have you drawn that conclusion?

What difference does whether that was down's target make to us? Also that down side ran Armagh to a point and have all Ireland club champions in their midst too. They are mediocre for a down side but for this level of football are a half decent team.

By all means target promotion I would love us to be promoted but I am saying it will be bloody hard to get out of that division and if you deem Antrim, yes that's Antrim, as a failure for not doing so then one thing you are not is a realist.

Look down your nose all you want but further highlights lack of realism. It was all we had post championship so why not embrace it? You'd have been complaining were we dumped out of it early too.

Aim for the stars by all means but to get promoted I would say we will need to be 30-40% better. Possible yes but big ask.


Division 2 isn't the stars, its a decent league campaign away.

Post championship? People on here desperate to get started in the tailteann as if that's when our season really starts.

No one said staying in div 3 was a failure but not having div 2 as a prime aim for the season is nothing short of a disgrace.

But thats us.  Short cuts and sticking plasters everywhere and dolling out excuses before we've even tried. 

The tailteann has rubbish attendances because it's a rubbish competition.  Blitzes played yesterday in the county because most people preferred watching kids play friendlies than travel to Dublin to watch antrim seniors play. 
Says it all.


Milltown Row2

Must have missed that interview when mcentee said he was not interested in winning promotion, can you through up that link please?

Oh and you do know the prize for winning the cup was entry into the Sam Maguire?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Christmas Lights

Quote from: Spike on June 24, 2024, 05:42:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 24, 2024, 04:33:49 PMWhat are you talking about excuses? Who made excuses?

It's fine to be ambitious but you have to have realism in there  as well. You expect us to beat Sligo, Clare, Fermanagh, Kildare. Offaly, Wexford and Laois and think we're a failure if we don't?

Have you followed our county team much at all? Incremental progress is fine with me.

Long time follower, long time realist.

there is no one in that group you just mentioned that are unbeatable. that is why they are in Division 3 after all and they will all be taking points off each other as well.

Progress? Relegation battle in the league. dumped out of championship by an average down side.  cant win a 2nd rate competition that no one cared about than us. 

Down were in Division 3 with us this year.  was their ambition at the start of the year to win the Tailteann?

I am 100% in the camp that looks down their nose at the Tailteann Cup. We are the only county in Ireland relishing getting back into it and that sums us up.
Rather than take the hard road of remedying the cause of our mediocrity we take the easy road. Winning the TC isn't going to solve our problems. All it will do is mask them for another year.

What's the alternative?