Man Utd Thread:

[Jell 0 Biafra]

Whether or not he's ultimately the bloke to turn it around, the owners at some point need to make it clear to the players that they decide who's sticking around.  Not a united fan (or particularly a hater), but I think this is the right decision at this point.

[snoopdog]

It's hard to justify sacking a man who won more than anyother manager in the PL this past 2 seasons. Yes the league last season was a disaster, I'm just worried that rathcliffe is waiting on Southgate for next summer.

[NAG1]

Lots of Journalists and pundits had him sacked already, the credibility of the English media never the best anyway. with the Glazers still making football decisions Ten Hag would have got the same treatment that Van Gaal got in 2016 after winning the FA Cup. 

This decision is proof that things are different now under Jim Ratcliffe and co. End of season review clearly didn't ignore the long injury list United had which included a patched up back fours with midfielders filling in the prime reason for such a poor league season and with less injuries the season before United finished 3rd again that would be taken in account in their review.

Lack of what is considered an upgrade replacement would have played a part in their thinking also. If reports are to believed Tuchel ruled himself out and the likes of Poch,Southgate was never suitable.

While I think they have reached the right decision, I think it may only be a temporary stay of execution.

The chat I have read and seen is that Southgate is seen as a viable candidate once he is away from England. So unless ETH has a seriously improved start to the league he will be under pressure instantly.

I suppose that is the life of a top level club manager regardless but it will be more intense for ETH this season.

[Maroon Manc]

Its the right decision, even Tuchel who was the best candidate available hasn't a CV that would you make he'd definitely be a success. Nagelsman was the only manager who'd i'd have liked to have seen take the job but that ship sailed as son as he committed to Germany for few years; Now 6 months down the line that may change.

Clearly no guarantee Ten Hag is going to be a huge success but he's shown that come a big game he's capable of getting his tactics right and when he had his best players available like in his first season results were good, the bad periods that season were when he had too many injuries and too many games and we couldn't cope. Ten Hag knows the club inside out, knows by now which players aren't good enough whilst a new manager may give another chance to some of those we all know are out of their depth.

Big summer ahead, opportunity now to get rid of the deadwood and hopefully buy better players considering all the talk about the recruits behind the scenes; Wilcox and Ashworth appear to know what their doing but I won't be getting carried away just yet.

 

[Bogman]

Looks like ETH will be staying on. David Orstein reporting.

Great news.

The rest of Premier League agrees with you.

[lurganblue]

A little surprised by this. Perhaps you can argue that he has had a bad hand dealt with the injury hit defence and he has still won the FA Cup. But then you consider the real lack of any discernible style of play, his management of players like Sancho, Rashford etc, and his big money spend on Anthony and I just dont see how the board think he's still the right man. Perhaps the options were limited.  I'm sure they put the feelers out.   

[nrico2006]

It's hard to justify sacking a man who won more than anyother manager in the PL this past 2 seasons. Yes the league last season was a disaster, I'm just worried that rathcliffe is waiting on Southgate for next summer.

Won more than any other manager?

[Armagh18]

Looks like ETH will be staying on. David Orstein reporting.

Great news.

The rest of Premier League agrees with you.

Was waiting on that one

[Look-Up!]

I don't think he's the man but I don't see too many other ready options. He won the cup and had an excuse list as long as your arm for the rest of the season, which they've bought and given him a stay. But it will be his last stay you'd imagine.
 What he'll be let do now in the transfer window will be telling. Of course he could turn it all around and become a legend, but if I had to put the house on it, he'll do well to see out the season.

[Maroon Manc]

A little surprised by this. Perhaps you can argue that he has had a bad hand dealt with the injury hit defence and he has still won the FA Cup. But then you consider the real lack of any discernible style of play, his management of players like Sancho, Rashford etc, and his big money spend on Anthony and I just dont see how the board think he's still the right man. Perhaps the options were limited.  I'm sure they put the feelers out. 

Sancho is a disgrace, club didn't do their due diligence on his mentality. You won't find a match going fan happy to have him back. As for Rashford he's got a lot going on in the background affecting his play, hope he can sort that out over the summer which is not ETH's fault!

As for Antony he should have pulled the plug on the deal but when you're desperate and you'd idiots running the club you can see why he didn't! Murtough, Arnold & Co are more too blame, they were told by the scouting department his value was no more then £30m!

I've no idea if he's the right man yet but given the alternatives like the majority of fans I wanted him to stay.

[AustinPowers]

I don't think he's the man but I don't see too many other ready options. He won the cup and had an excuse list as long as your arm for the rest of the season, which they've bought and given him a stay. But it will be his last stay you'd imagine.
 What he'll be let do now in the transfer window will be telling. Of course he could turn it all around and become a legend, but if I had to put the house on it, he'll do well to see out the season.

I'd say he'll do well  to see the new year

[Armagh18]

A little surprised by this. Perhaps you can argue that he has had a bad hand dealt with the injury hit defence and he has still won the FA Cup. But then you consider the real lack of any discernible style of play, his management of players like Sancho, Rashford etc, and his big money spend on Anthony and I just dont see how the board think he's still the right man. Perhaps the options were limited.  I'm sure they put the feelers out. 

Sancho is a disgrace, club didn't do their due diligence on his mentality. You won't find a match going fan happy to have him back. As for Rashford he's got a lot going on in the background affecting his play, hope he can sort that out over the summer which is not ETH's fault!

As for Antony he should have pulled the plug on the deal but when you're desperate and you'd idiots running the club you can see why he didn't! Murtough, Arnold & Co are more too blame, they were told by the scouting department his value was no more then £30m!

I've no idea if he's the right man yet but given the alternatives like the majority of fans I wanted him to stay.

His head is up his hole similar to Sancho. If Ferguson or Roy Keane were still about they'd have got the finger out or been long gone.

Spot on with the last paragraph, don't rate Southgate or Poch, not sure Tuchel is the right man either for a rebuild.

[Cunny Funt]

The chat I have read and seen is that Southgate is seen as a viable candidate once he is away from England. So unless ETH has a seriously improved start to the league he will be under pressure instantly.

INEOS and the Glazers are one of the same if he was appointed at any stage.

I'd say he'll do well  to see the new year

You said the same when he first arrived.

[AustinPowers]

The chat I have read and seen is that Southgate is seen as a viable candidate once he is away from England. So unless ETH has a seriously improved start to the league he will be under pressure instantly.

INEOS and the Glazers are one of the same if he was appointed at any stage.

I'd say he'll do well  to see the new year

You said the same when he first arrived.

I probably did

But was his first  season any better than Poch at Chelsea?  I thought yhat first season  was  very overhyped.  And last season  was shambolic.

My only conclusion is, like John O Shea with Ireland , is that they put the feelers out  and nobody obviously wanted  the  job , so the board  are now "backing the manager ". In reality , they  had no other choice

PS.  I expect O Shea to  be named Ireland manager for the same reason

[Cunny Funt]

But was his first  season any better than Poch at Chelsea? 

Yes would be the answer to that.

Poch with Chelsea this season 6th in the league 63 points, one cup final and managed to lose it against a injury hit Liverpool who was there for the taking

Ten Hag first season with United 3rd in the league 75 points, two cup finals losing one narrowly to City and winning the other one.