Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

[Goals_Will_Come]

This tier 2 & 3 minor championship is some BS....  minors have played what 9-10 games already and now going into a b competition after being comprehensively beaten by Derry in the Ulster championship
Seriously...  club minor season is a shams, away behind, U16s has been delayed by a few months already ...

Do Tyrone need to be in a tier2 competition?

What the GAA have done at national level to the Minor and U20 grades is a joke. The round robins and tiers have completely diluted the significance of the competitions. Added to this is the fact they added this format against the request of counties and the Ulster council. No speeches or interviews further adds to the idea that the GAA are trying to take the competitiveness out of the Minor grade.
Tyrone minors have played I believe 9 games this season and lost 4 of them and deservedly exited the Ulster Championship at the Semi Final stage against Derry. Should be season over and plenty to mull on for the team and players going forward into Under 20 age group. But instead of being finally able to rejoin up with their clubs and play the remaining league games, they are off to play a Tier B competition no one wants to be in that could potentially run for another 3 weeks.
At club level the minor season has been shambolic. CCC telling clubs players are available to clubs and then the county management telling players to not play and then some players playing and others not playing. Ridiculous.
If the GAA are going to insist on continuing down this route of Round Robin and tiers then Club Minor season should not start until late June and conclude prior to the Senior Club Championships starting.

What I would like to see at club level would be -
A modified calendar along the lines of:

U12 - April - June
U14 - July - October (finish before school football begins)
U16 - March - June (starting after the conclusion of school football which is generally St Patrick's Day and the traditional club start anyway - County Minors available to all clubs as was supposed to be the case this year but enforced by CCC - problem would be lessened as less players affected)
U18 - Late June - September (beginning after County Minor season and exams and concluded prior to Senior championships)
Reserve (with anyone Over 16 eligible - giving those lads football through Spring) - April - August
Senior (Over 17 only eligible) - May - October

Why should club fixtures be based around school fixtures?
These players are club players first off.

Are you saying U12's finisb in June?

It is either u12 and u16 finish end of June or u14 and u18 finish end of June as was the plan this year.

Is it not a bit mad U12's stop playing in June, tbe start of the summer and have no action for nearly 4 months of the year?

If U12 finish in June, they join up with U14 panel in July.
Just like when U16 finishes they join up with either U14 or Minor depending on their age.

[Sperrin_Rambler]

This tier 2 & 3 minor championship is some BS....  minors have played what 9-10 games already and now going into a b competition after being comprehensively beaten by Derry in the Ulster championship
Seriously...  club minor season is a shams, away behind, U16s has been delayed by a few months already ...

Do Tyrone need to be in a tier2 competition?

What the GAA have done at national level to the Minor and U20 grades is a joke. The round robins and tiers have completely diluted the significance of the competitions. Added to this is the fact they added this format against the request of counties and the Ulster council. No speeches or interviews further adds to the idea that the GAA are trying to take the competitiveness out of the Minor grade.
Tyrone minors have played I believe 9 games this season and lost 4 of them and deservedly exited the Ulster Championship at the Semi Final stage against Derry. Should be season over and plenty to mull on for the team and players going forward into Under 20 age group. But instead of being finally able to rejoin up with their clubs and play the remaining league games, they are off to play a Tier B competition no one wants to be in that could potentially run for another 3 weeks.
At club level the minor season has been shambolic. CCC telling clubs players are available to clubs and then the county management telling players to not play and then some players playing and others not playing. Ridiculous.
If the GAA are going to insist on continuing down this route of Round Robin and tiers then Club Minor season should not start until late June and conclude prior to the Senior Club Championships starting.

What I would like to see at club level would be -
A modified calendar along the lines of:

U12 - April - June
U14 - July - October (finish before school football begins)
U16 - March - June (starting after the conclusion of school football which is generally St Patrick's Day and the traditional club start anyway - County Minors available to all clubs as was supposed to be the case this year but enforced by CCC - problem would be lessened as less players affected)
U18 - Late June - September (beginning after County Minor season and exams and concluded prior to Senior championships)
Reserve (with anyone Over 16 eligible - giving those lads football through Spring) - April - August
Senior (Over 17 only eligible) - May - October

Why should club fixtures be based around school fixtures?
These players are club players first off.

Are you saying U12's finisb in June?

It is either u12 and u16 finish end of June or u14 and u18 finish end of June as was the plan this year.

Is it not a bit mad U12's stop playing in June, tbe start of the summer and have no action for nearly 4 months of the year?

If U12 finish in June, they join up with U14 panel in July.
Just like when U16 finishes they join up with either U14 or Minor depending on their age.

This would make far too much sense for our CCC to go along with it.

[GlenMan]

This tier 2 & 3 minor championship is some BS....  minors have played what 9-10 games already and now going into a b competition after being comprehensively beaten by Derry in the Ulster championship
Seriously...  club minor season is a shams, away behind, U16s has been delayed by a few months already ...

Do Tyrone need to be in a tier2 competition?

What the GAA have done at national level to the Minor and U20 grades is a joke. The round robins and tiers have completely diluted the significance of the competitions. Added to this is the fact they added this format against the request of counties and the Ulster council. No speeches or interviews further adds to the idea that the GAA are trying to take the competitiveness out of the Minor grade.
Tyrone minors have played I believe 9 games this season and lost 4 of them and deservedly exited the Ulster Championship at the Semi Final stage against Derry. Should be season over and plenty to mull on for the team and players going forward into Under 20 age group. But instead of being finally able to rejoin up with their clubs and play the remaining league games, they are off to play a Tier B competition no one wants to be in that could potentially run for another 3 weeks.
At club level the minor season has been shambolic. CCC telling clubs players are available to clubs and then the county management telling players to not play and then some players playing and others not playing. Ridiculous.
If the GAA are going to insist on continuing down this route of Round Robin and tiers then Club Minor season should not start until late June and conclude prior to the Senior Club Championships starting.

What I would like to see at club level would be -
A modified calendar along the lines of:

U12 - April - June
U14 - July - October (finish before school football begins)
U16 - March - June (starting after the conclusion of school football which is generally St Patrick's Day and the traditional club start anyway - County Minors available to all clubs as was supposed to be the case this year but enforced by CCC - problem would be lessened as less players affected)
U18 - Late June - September (beginning after County Minor season and exams and concluded prior to Senior championships)
Reserve (with anyone Over 16 eligible - giving those lads football through Spring) - April - August
Senior (Over 17 only eligible) - May - October

Why should club fixtures be based around school fixtures?
These players are club players first off.

Are you saying U12's finisb in June?

It is either u12 and u16 finish end of June or u14 and u18 finish end of June as was the plan this year.

Is it not a bit mad U12's stop playing in June, tbe start of the summer and have no action for nearly 4 months of the year?

If U12 finish in June, they join up with U14 panel in July.
Just like when U16 finishes they join up with either U14 or Minor depending on their age.

This would make far too much sense for our CCC to go along with it.

Minor was in the second half of the year last season, u16 first. Clubs overwhelmingly asked for it to be changed back.

In that schedule you'd have 17 yo lads waiting until late June for games. 13/14 yo's waiting til July for football. That's crazy

[LeoMc]

This tier 2 & 3 minor championship is some BS....  minors have played what 9-10 games already and now going into a b competition after being comprehensively beaten by Derry in the Ulster championship
Seriously...  club minor season is a shams, away behind, U16s has been delayed by a few months already ...

Do Tyrone need to be in a tier2 competition?

What the GAA have done at national level to the Minor and U20 grades is a joke. The round robins and tiers have completely diluted the significance of the competitions. Added to this is the fact they added this format against the request of counties and the Ulster council. No speeches or interviews further adds to the idea that the GAA are trying to take the competitiveness out of the Minor grade.
Tyrone minors have played I believe 9 games this season and lost 4 of them and deservedly exited the Ulster Championship at the Semi Final stage against Derry. Should be season over and plenty to mull on for the team and players going forward into Under 20 age group. But instead of being finally able to rejoin up with their clubs and play the remaining league games, they are off to play a Tier B competition no one wants to be in that could potentially run for another 3 weeks.
At club level the minor season has been shambolic. CCC telling clubs players are available to clubs and then the county management telling players to not play and then some players playing and others not playing. Ridiculous.
If the GAA are going to insist on continuing down this route of Round Robin and tiers then Club Minor season should not start until late June and conclude prior to the Senior Club Championships starting.

What I would like to see at club level would be -
A modified calendar along the lines of:

U12 - April - June
U14 - July - October (finish before school football begins)
U16 - March - June (starting after the conclusion of school football which is generally St Patrick's Day and the traditional club start anyway - County Minors available to all clubs as was supposed to be the case this year but enforced by CCC - problem would be lessened as less players affected)
U18 - Late June - September (beginning after County Minor season and exams and concluded prior to Senior championships)
Reserve (with anyone Over 16 eligible - giving those lads football through Spring) - April - August
Senior (Over 17 only eligible) - May - October

Why should club fixtures be based around school fixtures?
These players are club players first off.

Are you saying U12's finisb in June?

It is either u12 and u16 finish end of June or u14 and u18 finish end of June as was the plan this year.

Is it not a bit mad U12's stop playing in June, tbe start of the summer and have no action for nearly 4 months of the year?

If U12 finish in June, they join up with U14 panel in July.
Just like when U16 finishes they join up with either U14 or Minor depending on their age.

This would make far too much sense for our CCC to go along with it.

Minor was in the second half of the year last season, u16 first. Clubs overwhelmingly asked for it to be changed back.

In that schedule you'd have 17 yo lads waiting until late June for games. 13/14 yo's waiting til July for football. That's crazy

There are pros and cons to either order.

With u16s going before u18's, Minor lads were at college before their season ended.
Letting minors go first releases them to play Senior or reserve from the start of July.
Minors going first overlaps with County minor's delaying the club u18 and u16 season.
Running u12 before u14 allows those lads to experience the big pitch before moving onto the competitive football with their u14 or development team.

[Goals_Will_Come]

This tier 2 & 3 minor championship is some BS....  minors have played what 9-10 games already and now going into a b competition after being comprehensively beaten by Derry in the Ulster championship
Seriously...  club minor season is a shams, away behind, U16s has been delayed by a few months already ...

Do Tyrone need to be in a tier2 competition?

What the GAA have done at national level to the Minor and U20 grades is a joke. The round robins and tiers have completely diluted the significance of the competitions. Added to this is the fact they added this format against the request of counties and the Ulster council. No speeches or interviews further adds to the idea that the GAA are trying to take the competitiveness out of the Minor grade.
Tyrone minors have played I believe 9 games this season and lost 4 of them and deservedly exited the Ulster Championship at the Semi Final stage against Derry. Should be season over and plenty to mull on for the team and players going forward into Under 20 age group. But instead of being finally able to rejoin up with their clubs and play the remaining league games, they are off to play a Tier B competition no one wants to be in that could potentially run for another 3 weeks.
At club level the minor season has been shambolic. CCC telling clubs players are available to clubs and then the county management telling players to not play and then some players playing and others not playing. Ridiculous.
If the GAA are going to insist on continuing down this route of Round Robin and tiers then Club Minor season should not start until late June and conclude prior to the Senior Club Championships starting.

What I would like to see at club level would be -
A modified calendar along the lines of:

U12 - April - June
U14 - July - October (finish before school football begins)
U16 - March - June (starting after the conclusion of school football which is generally St Patrick's Day and the traditional club start anyway - County Minors available to all clubs as was supposed to be the case this year but enforced by CCC - problem would be lessened as less players affected)
U18 - Late June - September (beginning after County Minor season and exams and concluded prior to Senior championships)
Reserve (with anyone Over 16 eligible - giving those lads football through Spring) - April - August
Senior (Over 17 only eligible) - May - October

Why should club fixtures be based around school fixtures?
These players are club players first off.

Are you saying U12's finisb in June?

It is either u12 and u16 finish end of June or u14 and u18 finish end of June as was the plan this year.

Is it not a bit mad U12's stop playing in June, tbe start of the summer and have no action for nearly 4 months of the year?

If U12 finish in June, they join up with U14 panel in July.
Just like when U16 finishes they join up with either U14 or Minor depending on their age.

This would make far too much sense for our CCC to go along with it.

Minor was in the second half of the year last season, u16 first. Clubs overwhelmingly asked for it to be changed back.

In that schedule you'd have 17 yo lads waiting until late June for games. 13/14 yo's waiting til July for football. That's crazy

13/14 year olds play U16?
In a perfect world you let the Over 16s play Reserve football and Over 17 Senior and Reserve. But the brain boxes in Dublin think this will contribute to burnout. No matter when you play the Minor Season those lads over 16 either finish the minor season and wait until the following year to play or wait till July for the Minor season to start. Either way they spend half the year waiting around until the change comes allowing them to play adult football.

[Goals_Will_Come]

An Charraig Mhor Naomh Colmcille 1-10    An Droim Mór Naoimh Damhnait 0-8
An Eaglais, Naomh Pádraig 2-10    Domhnach Mór Naoimh Pádraig 3-11
Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa 0-14    Galbally Pearses 1-14
Coill an Chlochair Naomh Mhuire 3-12    Clonoe O`Rahilly's CLG 2-10
Dungannon Thomas Clarke GAA 0-14    Omagh St Enda's 1-15
Edendork St Malachy's 1-12    Fianna Oileán an Ghuail CLG 1-11
Loughmacrory St. Teresa's 0-11    Pomeroy Plunketts 4-07
Trí Leac C. Naoimh Mhic Artáin 1-11    Errigal Ciaran 1-11

Aghyaran    1-18    Moortown St Malachy's    1-14
An Caisleán Glas Naoimh Pádraig    0-12    Stewartstown Harps    0-10
Beragh Red Knights GAA    3-12    Fionntamhnach Na Piarsaigh    0-10
Drumragh Sarsfields    0-9    Cookstown Fr. Rock's GAA    1-5
Gortin St Patrick's    0-10    Kildress Wolfe Tones    0-10
Naomh Eoghan    1-8    Moy Tír na nÓg    1-12
Owen Roe O`Neill's GAC, Leckpatrick    2-10    Clogher Eire Óg    1-11
Rock St Patrick's    1-12    Derrylaughan Kevin Barry's GAC    3-16

Augher St Macartan's GFC    0-9    Achadh Lú Uí Néill    1-11
Breac an Bhile Eoghan Rua    0-5    Drumquin Wolfe Tones    1-14
Brockagh Emmetts    2-8    Clann na nGael    1-15
Castlederg St Eugene's    0-9    Eskra Emmetts    1-13
Cill na mBán Naomh Mhuire    0-2    Gleann Éallaigh    4-22
Derrytresk Fir an Chnoic    0-9    An táite Riabhach Naoimh Pádraig    0-10
Urney St Columba's    0-10    Strabane Sigersons    1-9

[square_ball]

Tyrone minors have played I believe 9 games this season and lost 4 of them and deservedly exited the Ulster Championship at the Semi Final stage against Derry. Should be season over and plenty to mull on for the team and players going forward into Under 20 age group. But instead of being finally able to rejoin up with their clubs and play the remaining league games, they are off to play a Tier B competition no one wants to be in that could potentially run for another 3 weeks.

Hard to argue with this after seeing the result yesterday. Does a facile 19 point win last night over Wexford do anything for the development of either side? County minor season over and lads back to their clubs would be the sensible thing to do. Majority of them have also been on the go playing MacRory Cup and whatever other schools football.

[inowbest]

An Charraig Mhor Naomh Colmcille 1-10    An Droim Mór Naoimh Damhnait 0-8
An Eaglais, Naomh Pádraig 2-10    Domhnach Mór Naoimh Pádraig 3-11
Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa 0-14    Galbally Pearses 1-14
Coill an Chlochair Naomh Mhuire 3-12    Clonoe O`Rahilly's CLG 2-10
Dungannon Thomas Clarke GAA 0-14    Omagh St Enda's 1-15
Edendork St Malachy's 1-12    Fianna Oileán an Ghuail CLG 1-11
Loughmacrory St. Teresa's 0-11    Pomeroy Plunketts 4-07
Trí Leac C. Naoimh Mhic Artáin 1-11    Errigal Ciaran 1-11

Aghyaran    1-18    Moortown St Malachy's    1-14
An Caisleán Glas Naoimh Pádraig    0-12    Stewartstown Harps    0-10
Beragh Red Knights GAA    3-12    Fionntamhnach Na Piarsaigh    0-10
Drumragh Sarsfields    0-9    Cookstown Fr. Rock's GAA    1-5
Gortin St Patrick's    0-10    Kildress Wolfe Tones    0-10
Naomh Eoghan    1-8    Moy Tír na nÓg    1-12
Owen Roe O`Neill's GAC, Leckpatrick    2-10    Clogher Eire Óg    1-11
Rock St Patrick's    1-12    Derrylaughan Kevin Barry's GAC    3-16

Augher St Macartan's GFC    0-9    Achadh Lú Uí Néill    1-11
Breac an Bhile Eoghan Rua    0-5    Drumquin Wolfe Tones    1-14
Brockagh Emmetts    2-8    Clann na nGael    1-15
Castlederg St Eugene's    0-9    Eskra Emmetts    1-13
Cill na mBán Naomh Mhuire    0-2    Gleann Éallaigh    4-22
Derrytresk Fir an Chnoic    0-9    An táite Riabhach Naoimh Pádraig    0-10
Urney St Columba's    0-10    Strabane Sigersons    1-9

Some surprising results on Friday night. Edendork beating Coalisland in a starred game surely a big surprise. Would Edendork have won many starred games in recent years?

[thebigfullforward]

An Charraig Mhor Naomh Colmcille 1-10    An Droim Mór Naoimh Damhnait 0-8
An Eaglais, Naomh Pádraig 2-10    Domhnach Mór Naoimh Pádraig 3-11
Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa 0-14    Galbally Pearses 1-14
Coill an Chlochair Naomh Mhuire 3-12    Clonoe O`Rahilly's CLG 2-10
Dungannon Thomas Clarke GAA 0-14    Omagh St Enda's 1-15
Edendork St Malachy's 1-12    Fianna Oileán an Ghuail CLG 1-11
Loughmacrory St. Teresa's 0-11    Pomeroy Plunketts 4-07
Trí Leac C. Naoimh Mhic Artáin 1-11    Errigal Ciaran 1-11

Aghyaran    1-18    Moortown St Malachy's    1-14
An Caisleán Glas Naoimh Pádraig    0-12    Stewartstown Harps    0-10
Beragh Red Knights GAA    3-12    Fionntamhnach Na Piarsaigh    0-10
Drumragh Sarsfields    0-9    Cookstown Fr. Rock's GAA    1-5
Gortin St Patrick's    0-10    Kildress Wolfe Tones    0-10
Naomh Eoghan    1-8    Moy Tír na nÓg    1-12
Owen Roe O`Neill's GAC, Leckpatrick    2-10    Clogher Eire Óg    1-11
Rock St Patrick's    1-12    Derrylaughan Kevin Barry's GAC    3-16

Augher St Macartan's GFC    0-9    Achadh Lú Uí Néill    1-11
Breac an Bhile Eoghan Rua    0-5    Drumquin Wolfe Tones    1-14
Brockagh Emmetts    2-8    Clann na nGael    1-15
Castlederg St Eugene's    0-9    Eskra Emmetts    1-13
Cill na mBán Naomh Mhuire    0-2    Gleann Éallaigh    4-22
Derrytresk Fir an Chnoic    0-9    An táite Riabhach Naoimh Pádraig    0-10
Urney St Columba's    0-10    Strabane Sigersons    1-9

Some surprising results on Friday night. Edendork beating Coalisland in a starred game surely a big surprise. Would Edendork have won many starred games in recent years?

What would Coalisland look like without their county men? No Hampsey, McKernan, T. Quinn, Devlin. Anyone know if McHugh was back playing?

[Goals_Will_Come]

The three teams I expected to be the bottom 3 were Coalisland, Clonoe and Eglish and three bad results to start with. Edendork's record in starred game is very poor, both teams down 4 very prominent players but losing is a bad result for Coalisland. Clonoe losing well to a managerless Killyclogher is also a bad start after a promising preseason in the Jim Devlin cup but it looks like they have brought nothing new to the table that saw them relegated in 2022.

Can we also spare a thought for poor Killyman. Hopefully 3B next year helps them as a club because that result would be difficult for all involved.

[Rock n Roll]

An Charraig Mhor Naomh Colmcille 1-10    An Droim Mór Naoimh Damhnait 0-8
An Eaglais, Naomh Pádraig 2-10    Domhnach Mór Naoimh Pádraig 3-11
Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa 0-14    Galbally Pearses 1-14
Coill an Chlochair Naomh Mhuire 3-12    Clonoe O`Rahilly's CLG 2-10
Dungannon Thomas Clarke GAA 0-14    Omagh St Enda's 1-15
Edendork St Malachy's 1-12    Fianna Oileán an Ghuail CLG 1-11
Loughmacrory St. Teresa's 0-11    Pomeroy Plunketts 4-07
Trí Leac C. Naoimh Mhic Artáin 1-11    Errigal Ciaran 1-11

Aghyaran    1-18    Moortown St Malachy's    1-14
An Caisleán Glas Naoimh Pádraig    0-12    Stewartstown Harps    0-10
Beragh Red Knights GAA    3-12    Fionntamhnach Na Piarsaigh    0-10
Drumragh Sarsfields    0-9    Cookstown Fr. Rock's GAA    1-5
Gortin St Patrick's    0-10    Kildress Wolfe Tones    0-10
Naomh Eoghan    1-8    Moy Tír na nÓg    1-12
Owen Roe O`Neill's GAC, Leckpatrick    2-10    Clogher Eire Óg    1-11
Rock St Patrick's    1-12    Derrylaughan Kevin Barry's GAC    3-16

Augher St Macartan's GFC    0-9    Achadh Lú Uí Néill    1-11
Breac an Bhile Eoghan Rua    0-5    Drumquin Wolfe Tones    1-14
Brockagh Emmetts    2-8    Clann na nGael    1-15
Castlederg St Eugene's    0-9    Eskra Emmetts    1-13
Cill na mBán Naomh Mhuire    0-2    Gleann Éallaigh    4-22
Derrytresk Fir an Chnoic    0-9    An táite Riabhach Naoimh Pádraig    0-10
Urney St Columba's    0-10    Strabane Sigersons    1-9

Not that it matters but that is the wrong scoreline for the Rock v Derrylaughan game. That is the final score of the reserve game.

Senior game finished 1-12 to 2-10. Derrylaughan scored a goal in injury time to win by a point.

[square_ball]

The three teams I expected to be the bottom 3 were Coalisland, Clonoe and Eglish and three bad results to start with. Edendork's record in starred game is very poor, both teams down 4 very prominent players but losing is a bad result for Coalisland. Clonoe losing well to a managerless Killyclogher is also a bad start after a promising preseason in the Jim Devlin cup but it looks like they have brought nothing new to the table that saw them relegated in 2022.

Can we also spare a thought for poor Killyman. Hopefully 3B next year helps them as a club because that result would be difficult for all involved.

You would have thought Coalislands non-county players would be better than Edendorks non-county players so for me that was a suprising result. Tiarnan Quinn is probably the main absentee for the Fianna as he is their main scorer. I don't think Edendork generally win many games in the starred fixtures so anything they get in these games is a real bonus for them.

[GaaGPT]

Division 2
Aghyaran look to be the team to beat atm

Division 3
Looks like eskra,aghaloo,drumquin to fight it out. Would fancy aghaloo

[inowbest]

Errigal and Trillick was a good game even though both teams were missing a lot of players. Trillick have a brilliant set up now with the second pitch. So many clubs in Tyrone have unbelievable set ups. We now have our 3rd pitch passed. Are there many clubs in Tyrone who still have just one pitch? It's a brilliant effort by all clubs in the county by the way so I'm not having a go at any club who still have one, just genuinely interested. Would Tyrone clubs seem to be ahead of a lot of other counties in that regard?

[GlenMan]

The three teams I expected to be the bottom 3 were Coalisland, Clonoe and Eglish and three bad results to start with. Edendork's record in starred game is very poor, both teams down 4 very prominent players but losing is a bad result for Coalisland. Clonoe losing well to a managerless Killyclogher is also a bad start after a promising preseason in the Jim Devlin cup but it looks like they have brought nothing new to the table that saw them relegated in 2022.

Can we also spare a thought for poor Killyman. Hopefully 3B next year helps them as a club because that result would be difficult for all involved.

I think Glenelly would have been 3B this year, if it was based on last year's table. Open to correction but I can't see Killyman fairing any better when the League splits