Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[trueblue1234]

Am I the only one thinking our conditioning is below were it should be? I thought in the 2nd half of normal time, a good few of our men stopped making the runs that we had been making in the 1st half. Think new legs then could have made a big difference. But management have been slow to implement changes. Oguz A big loss in that regards.

[NotedObserver]

Am I the only one thinking our conditioning is below were it should be? I thought in the 2nd half of normal time, a good few of our men stopped making the runs that we had been making in the 1st half. Think new legs then could have made a big difference. But management have been slow to implement changes. Oguz A big loss in that regards.

Yes to me conditioning looks off but hard to judge after ET back to back weeks. Would any under 20s be expected into the panel? With all the injuries and drop outs Tyrone are getting light.

[Scoring Zone]

Am I the only one thinking our conditioning is below were it should be? I thought in the 2nd half of normal time, a good few of our men stopped making the runs that we had been making in the 1st half. Think new legs then could have made a big difference. But management have been slow to implement changes. Oguz A big loss in that regards.

Spot on - conditioning has been a problem for me for a number of years (since P Donnelly has left). It was never an issue when he was about. The energy started to drop after 15 mins in the second half and the defensive line dropped a few yards which let Mogan and McGonnigle hit big scores that help Donegal get the momentum back (as well as a few bad turnovers from McShane and McDonnell).

RE: the bench, McGuinness hasn't a lot of faith in his bench also as I think he brought O Baoill back on again

[sam03/05]

Thought Tyrone done well but ran outta steam at the end. They were 1 point ahead with 30 secs play and they led nearly the whole game  so they were not that bad overall. If they get Cormac Quinn, Harte, Meyler, Burns, Oguz all back they might do ok.

[square_ball]

Am I the only one thinking our conditioning is below were it should be? I thought in the 2nd half of normal time, a good few of our men stopped making the runs that we had been making in the 1st half. Think new legs then could have made a big difference. But management have been slow to implement changes. Oguz A big loss in that regards.

Spot on - conditioning has been a problem for me for a number of years (since P Donnelly has left). It was never an issue when he was about. The energy started to drop after 15 mins in the second half and the defensive line dropped a few yards which let Mogan and McGonnigle hit big scores that help Donegal get the momentum back (as well as a few bad turnovers from McShane and McDonnell).

RE: the bench, McGuinness hasn't a lot of faith in his bench also as I think he brought O Baoill back on again

True but by accident or design he at least seemed to have a plan for how he was going to use the players he did have faith in. In saying that it doesn't do much for the confidence of the players that he didn't use from the bench (and same for the Tyrone lads too).

[thebigfullforward]

Lack of any sort of strength in depth killed us today. One enforced sub and another in the 63rd minute in normal time tells the tale.

Can't fault the effort and performance and probably should have seen it out in normal time. Once it went to extra time we were always going to struggle particularly with the lack of changes made.

Hopefully Meyler and Harte will be back for the group stage. I'd be expecting QF minimum and then after that who knows.

Our refusal by the management to use our bench killed us today. Yes, they may lack experience but if they were good enough in ET last week then surely they were today. To throw away a 3 point lead with 15 to go and then a 1 point lead deep into injury time was very disappointing.
Once Donegal went ahead, you never felt we would win

Agree with this. If they are on the county panel they should be good enough to play county games. Feel like some lads weren't given as much of a chance as they should have had

[Truthsayer]

Lack of any sort of strength in depth killed us today. One enforced sub and another in the 63rd minute in normal time tells the tale.

Can't fault the effort and performance and probably should have seen it out in normal time. Once it went to extra time we were always going to struggle particularly with the lack of changes made.

Hopefully Meyler and Harte will be back for the group stage. I'd be expecting QF minimum and then after that who knows.

Our refusal by the management to use our bench killed us today. Yes, they may lack experience but if they were good enough in ET last week then surely they were today. To throw away a 3 point lead with 15 to go and then a 1 point lead deep into injury time was very disappointing.
Once Donegal went ahead, you never felt we would win

Agree with this. If they are on the county panel they should be good enough to play county games. Feel like some lads weren't given as much of a chance as they should have had

Agreed. Jimmy hasn't much faith in his bench either. Three players he took off were put back on again...

[square_ball]

That's not too bad a draw. An extra week rest as well having drawn the Ulster winners. Toughest game out of the road first then should be beating Clare and Cork. Though Cork were decent against Kerry a few weeks ago.

[Truthsayer]

Aye could top that group avoiding trips to Dublin or Kerry or Mayo/Galway. A day out in Athletics Ground be good craic and not beyond the realms of possibility that Armagh win Ulster. Top two very doable..

[God14]

Any ambition at all, need to top that group

[Truthsayer]

I think trip to Donegal be very tricky otherwise can top the group if Armagh win Ulster

[Goals_Will_Come]

EirGrid Ulster U20 Final: Tyrone triumph following penalty shootout

EirGrid Ulster U20 Football Championship Final
Tyrone 3-10 Derry 2-13 AET
Tyrone win 3-1 on penalties

Tyrone's second EirGrid Ulster U20 Football Championship title in three years was won in dramatic fashion as they edged out Derry in a penalty shoot-out at BOX-IT Athletic Grounds in Armagh. Goalkeeper Conor McAneney emerged as the hero by saving Derry's first threes spot kicks, and it was left to Noah Grimes to slot home the winner..
The sides had been deadlocked on 1-11 to 2-8 at the end of normal time, but a Ryan McNicholl helped the Oak Leafers to a four point lead in extra-time. However, the Red Hands refused toe admit defeat, and pressed with passion and courage to get themselves back in contention with substitutes Ruairi McHugh, with a goal, and Conor Owens, with the game's 10th equaliser, bringing them level.
Niall O'Donnell got Derry off the mark as they made the more positive start to a game that started with both sides setting up with a fortified defensive structure. They stretched the Tyrone cover for Shea McCann to move inside and cap a weaving run with a well executed score, but Ronan Cassidy and Conor O'Neill were both on target at the other end to keep the Red Hands close. But Derry contrived an 11th minute goal, slicing a hole in the Tyrone defence as Ruairi Forbes and Danny McDermott combined, and it was Johnny McGuckian who cut in from the right to send a low shot past Conor McAneney. Tyrone hit back with a goal inside a minute, Shea O'Hare finishing from close range after Joey Clarke's shot was blocked. Clarke denied the Oaks a second goal with a brilliant block on McGuckian, but they continued to press strongly with the wind in their backs, going back in front through O'Donnell. Tyrone knocked them back with another goal, midfielder Conor O'Neill driving at the opposition defence before slipping the ball inside for Ruairi McCullagh to smash home his shot off the underside of the crossbar. However, they went in level at the break, Ronan Walls bringing Derry level at 1-6 to 2-3.
Danny McDermott had Dery back in front, but it swung back in Tyrone's favour as wing back Odhran Brolly pressed forward to pick off the lead score. And a couple of Eoin McElholm gems had the Red Hands ahead by a point going into the final quarter. The probing runs of Johnny McGuckian and the energy of corner back Fionn McEldowney propelled Derry forward again, and substitute Rory McGill fired over the leveller. After Oisin Doherty had converted his third free of the evening, McCullagh had the sides level for the ninth time. Both sides had chances to win it, but the closing ten minutes failed to produce a score, and it ended deadlocked at 1-11 to 2-8.
Defensive heroics from Rory Small and Conleth McGrogan helped restrict Tyrone to a single point, and Derry gave themselves a massive boost at the end of the first spell of added time with a Ryan McNicholl goal to lead by 2-13 to 2-9 at the turnaround.
Substitute Ruairi McHugh punched home a third Tyrone goal two minutes after the restart to plunge a gripping contest right back into the balance, and a superb equaliser from Conor Owens set up a penalty shoot-out.

Scorers for Tyrone: R McCullagh 1-2 (1f), S O'Hare, R McHugh 1-0 each, R Cassidy 0-3 (1f), E McElholm 0-2, C O'Neill, C Owens, O Brolly 0-1 each.
Scorers for Derry: O Doherty 0-4 (3fs), J McGuckian, R McNicholl 1-0 each, S McCann, N O'Donnell, R McGill 0-2 each, D McDermott, C McGrogan, R Walls 0-1 each.

Tyrone: C McAneney; J Clarke, B Hughes, Conor Devlin; S O'Hare, M Rafferty, O Brolly; R Fox, C O'Neill; Cormac Devlin, E McElholm, G Potter; R McCullagh, R Cassidy, C Daly.
Subs: F Nelis for Conor Devlin (21), R McHugh for Brolly (42), P McCann for Fox (50), N Grimes for Cassidy (55), C Owens for O'Neill (70).

Derry: C Armstrong; F McEldowney, D McDermott, R Small; C McGrogan, P McGurk, R Walls; R Forbes, C Heron; C Spiers, J McGuckian; R Walls; N O'Donnell, C Chambers, O Doherty.
Subs: R McNicholl for McCann (HT), E Higgins for Spiers (36), R McGill for Chambers (44), D McPeake for Walls (55), T Rogers for Heron (73), F Donnelly for Rafferty (73).

Referee: D Boylan (Monaghan).

[bogball88]

11/12 May scheduled for U20 All Ireland Semi Final, with the final the following week

[God14]

It would make sense for Ben Cullen to rejoin this group now. He wasnt eligible last night, once he came on against Donegal as sub last Sunday. Tyrone dont play again until after the U20s is complete. Would be a serious addition to this panel of players

[Goals_Will_Come]

It would make sense for Ben Cullen to rejoin this group now. He wasnt eligible last night, once he came on against Donegal as sub last Sunday. Tyrone dont play again until after the U20s is complete. Would be a serious addition to this panel of players

Does he start? O'Hare Daly Rafferty are nailed on and I wouldn't be completely confident on him taking Brolly's place. Maybe take Devlin's place at Wing Forward.