The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - #DankeJürgen

Started by Gabriel_Hurl, February 05, 2009, 03:47:16 PM

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laoislad

I'm getting a strong smell of under the bar/Over the bar/The Stallion from StPatsAbu's posts.
Anyone else?
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

JoG2


From the Bunker

Quote from: laoislad on February 14, 2021, 11:28:32 AM
I'm getting a strong smell of under the bar/Over the bar/The Stallion from StPatsAbu's posts.
Anyone else?

Who cares? Just ignore! At this stage you know the ones to interact with.

Besides most of us are no angels either.

As for Klopp, he has more than earned some lee-way on a bad patch.

J70

Anyone calling for Klopp's head is either ignorant and of low intelligence, or on the wind-up.

There is no coherent, informed argument they can present to make their case, so there are no other options.

Denn Forever

I have more respect for a man
that says what he means and
means what he says...

Milltown Row2

Quote from: J70 on February 14, 2021, 12:07:49 PM
Anyone calling for Klopp's head is either ignorant and of low intelligence, or on the wind-up.

There is no coherent, informed argument they can present to make their case, so there are no other options.

Would take Klopp tomorrow in a heartbeat...

Might take a couple of seasons for him to get the right personal but the end result would be titles and CL
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

laoislad

A lot of posters who were very giddy on here yesterday will be less giddy today I reckon....
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

quit yo jibbajabba

.......and on that note, do the Everton fans just analyse Liverpool these days as opposed to their own team who i believe had a match there recently...

Dearg

Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on February 14, 2021, 10:09:00 PM
.......and on that note, do the Everton fans just analyse Liverpool these days as opposed to their own team who i believe had a match there recently...
Everton's last 5 League games = 5 points
Manchester United's last 5 League games = 6 points
Liverpool's last 5 League games = 6 points.

I'm not sure any fan of any of the above clubs has a right to have a go at the other..

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Dearg on February 15, 2021, 08:01:41 AM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on February 14, 2021, 10:09:00 PM
.......and on that note, do the Everton fans just analyse Liverpool these days as opposed to their own team who i believe had a match there recently...
Everton's last 5 League games = 5 points
Manchester United's last 5 League games = 6 points
Liverpool's last 5 League games = 6 points.

I'm not sure any fan of any of the above clubs has a right to have a go at the other..

Its called taking the piss, none of it is serious and if anyone takes a strop they need to chill a bit
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

brokencrossbar1

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2021, 08:51:45 AM
Quote from: Dearg on February 15, 2021, 08:01:41 AM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on February 14, 2021, 10:09:00 PM
.......and on that note, do the Everton fans just analyse Liverpool these days as opposed to their own team who i believe had a match there recently...
Everton's last 5 League games = 5 points
Manchester United's last 5 League games = 6 points
Liverpool's last 5 League games = 6 points.

I'm not sure any fan of any of the above clubs has a right to have a go at the other..

Its called taking the piss, none of it is serious and if anyone takes a strop they need to chill a bit

Sure you don't follow any team so you're grand!

The team is out on their feet physically, mentally and emotionally. They could go on a run and secure top 4 but that is not guaranteed. That would be the best case scenario this year. Chelsea will push them, Everton could but as the old adage goes the only team that will stop them getting top 4 is themselves. The players owe Klopp big time here given what he has given them and what he deserves back, particularly with his mother's death.

See what the CL brings. Leipzig will be very tough but if (and this is a very big if) they can get their mojo going anything can happen in Europe. The lack of fans on Anfield counter acts against that though and it is just a football field now. This week will be huge as the Derby plus an awkward European tie when confidence is in the boots. It could make or break the rest of the season

seafoid

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/ken-early-super-league-may-be-best-option-for-europe-s-bill-laden-top-clubs-1.4484808

Liverpool, recently champions of everything, have been reduced to juggling loans in and out to plug gaps in defence. They now look likely to miss Champions League qualification, which would blow up their high-wage model. These developments will have heightened the already conspicuous interest their owners have displayed in breakaway plans.

In this context it was interesting to hear Luis Rubiales, the head of the Spanish FA, talk last week about the ways in which "football is evolving." Rubiales argued that a breakaway European league would be a bad idea, but also said that domestic leagues had to think about what kind of concessions could be made to the big clubs' urgent demands for revenue growth. Rubiales suggested silly-sounding ideas like cutting La Liga from 38 to 33 match days, to make room for "extra Clasicos", which would fit into the schedule in some yet-to-be-explained way.

Arms race
The problem with any such incremental reforms is that they run up against the structural problem described by Arsene Wenger in a recent punditry appearance on beIN Sports.

"The future is to find a compromise between what the fans want and enough financial security for what the clubs need. Because anyway, you put €100 million more into the game, 90 per cent will go for wages." That's the arms race dynamic of European football: if you don't pay the players, somebody else will.

What Wenger didn't say was that the only stable escape from this dynamic is if these clubs band together into an NFL-type super league, creating a centralised entity that can guarantee revenues while making sure nobody cheats on spending.

The big obstacle to the creation of such a league in the past was not that fans don't want it - although they don't. It was that most big clubs were happy with a status quo that allowed them to dominate at home while making money in Europe.

That status quo was already falling apart before it had to absorb the shattering impact of the pandemic. For the first time, we may now have a critical mass of clubs desperate enough to push for an outcome that nobody really wants, because it's the only way they can see to pay the bills.

J70

Not sure about the other big European clubs, but its supposedly FSG and the Glazers driving it for the English ones. I guess the owners of City and Chelsea would be less concerned with the fall-out from failing to make the Champions League for a season or two. Liverpool would be in a bit of bother. Especially with the Anfield Road end redevelopment coming up too.

Milltown Row2

Thought there would be a least some talk on team selection and so on.

This isn't a home game so not thee we same as normal.

On that,  the thing I've noticed about Klopp he thrives off the atmosphere that is generated by the fans which he fuels back into the team on the pitch. 
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea