The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - #DankeJürgen

[Milltown Row2]

After all that explanation,  VAR (according to all the ex players and commentators) is inept and isn't being seen as a success. Some teams have benefited from it very well

[imtommygunn]

There was a league table I saw today on with net scores on teams benefit from it. It was actually tweeted by stevie McDonnell.

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/english-premier-league/story/3929823/how-var-decisions-have-affected-every-premier-league-club

Interesting reading.

As correct as it can be means it isn't one hundred percent. For marginal offside calls it shouldn't be used.

[GiveItToTheShooters]

There was a league table I saw today on with net scores on teams benefit from it. It was actually tweeted by stevie McDonnell.

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/english-premier-league/story/3929823/how-var-decisions-have-affected-every-premier-league-club

Interesting reading.

As correct as it can be means it isn't one hundred percent. For marginal offside calls it shouldn't be used.

Yes it should. The lines are precise, and if VAR says it's offside, then it is, therefore the goal shouldn't stand. Simple.

[imtommygunn]

Is the time the ball is played at precise? If it's not then I would say the lines don't matter.

[GiveItToTheShooters]

Yes, that's the easiest thing for VAR to establish, slow motion and freeze at the point of contact.  They do that first

[imtommygunn]

I don't think it is... if it's a 50 FPS camera then how can they be sure of the exact time of the through ball unless it is played exactly on a frame which is more unlikely than likely?

[J70]

https://mobile.twitter.com/OfficialAN_87/status/1211370449961136134?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1211370449961136134&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.empireofthekop.com%2F2019%2F12%2F30%2Frichard-keys-is-chatting-utter-nonsense-about-liverpool-on-twitter%2F

Doesn't look a handball to me.

That's because it wasn't.

Just an idiotic twitter mob with an agenda

[Maiden1]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/premier-league-accused-using-var-21186327

If it takes 5 minutes to work out if it offside then it should be onside.

[GiveItToTheShooters]

Hahaha they're not using an old Nikon that you buy out of the shop here
They're able to use goal line technology so they're gonna be using cameras that are highly advanced enough (the best and most precise system according to Dermot Gallagher) that they can slow it down and determine the exact point of contact.

[imtommygunn]

Ok it is actually 120 FPS. Same point applies with better odds for var...

It is not accurate to the millimetre which when you are making judgments to the millimetre seems kind of flawed. It is just plain wrong really. I was reading in cricket, true or not idk, that if the decision is too close for technology to call then the original decision stands. That makes sense to me.

[Capt Pat]

The way it is in the nfl is there has to be a clear and obvious reason to overturn the on field referees decision. They need to use that rationale in the premier league.

[Gabriel_Hurl]

The offside rule needs to back to how it was - none of this head, harm, elbow, arse offside ....... it's all down the feet position

[Hound]

The way it is in the nfl is there has to be a clear and obvious reason to overturn the on field referees decision. They need to use that rationale in the premier league.

It is exactly that in the premier league. Like the Lallana handball was a clear and obvious error.

Offside though is black and white. You're either offside or not. A little bit offside is still completely offside. Linesmen told to keep their flags down unless it's absolutely clearcut, because var will correct the errors. You'd think the technology should be a lot crisper / sharper. Maybe the rule should change, but that is not VAR's fault, and no matter what you change the rule to, there'll always be the situation that someone is 1cm away from being ok.

Thing that annoyed me most about the Wolves game was the man of the match selection.  TAA was superb v Leicester and was no-brainer for the award. But he was poor against Wolves. Overhit so many crosses and not good defensively when Wolves finally put Traore on him. Don't like players getting undeserved accolades and that was ridiculous from Carragher. Not that there were too many good alternatives on the day, Hendo probably or maybe Gomez.

[imtommygunn]

The offside isn't black and white though. In very, very, marginal cases which they tend to disallow there is a margin of error which means the technology could be wrong.

They are implementing as asked though and to disallow the wolves goal was correct as it was consistent with the decisions var has made the rest of the season.

Imo make it clear and obvious for offside and it's fine.

[Milltown Row2]

The offside isn't black and white though. In very, very, marginal cases which they tend to disallow there is a margin of error which means the technology could be wrong.

They are implementing as asked though and to disallow the wolves goal was correct as it was consistent with the decisions var has made the rest of the season.

Imo make it clear and obvious for offside and it's fine.

The league table without VAR is interesting, but if it's the same for everyone then it 'works'