The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - #DankeJürgen

[J70]

According to the Premier league, the technology they're using is vastly dumbed-down in the pictures provided for TV.

https://www.premierleague.com/news/1488423

[Ambrose]

The league table without VAR is interesting, but if it's the same for everyone then it 'works'

Do you want to show us your made up table without VAR then? Admit it, Liverpool's current run of form is absolutely killing you, it's a joy to watch, long may it continue.

[thebar]

The offside isn't black and white though. In very, very, marginal cases which they tend to disallow there is a margin of error which means the technology could be wrong.

They are implementing as asked though and to disallow the wolves goal was correct as it was consistent with the decisions var has made the rest of the season.

Imo make it clear and obvious for offside and it's fine.

The league table without VAR is interesting, but if it's the same for everyone then it 'works'

Interesting to who? 

[Milltown Row2]

The offside isn't black and white though. In very, very, marginal cases which they tend to disallow there is a margin of error which means the technology could be wrong.

They are implementing as asked though and to disallow the wolves goal was correct as it was consistent with the decisions var has made the rest of the season.

Imo make it clear and obvious for offside and it's fine.

The league table without VAR is interesting, but if it's the same for everyone then it 'works'

Interesting to who? 

Brighton have done the best out of it, and Wolves have lost out the most

[Hound]

Saw what looked like Razor Ruddock and Julian Dicks playing Centre half and left back on some mickeymouse game on BT tonight!

Although Razor and Julian used to at least score a few goals to make up for being fat and slow 🤣

[laoislad]

Another win for the World Champions.
That was far easier than I expected, thought Sheffield United would have been a tough test but it was as comfortable a game as Liverpool have had this season.
Put the kids or women out now against the noisy neighbours on Sunday.
18 games to go....

[From the Bunker]

Job done! This is a procession!

Liverpool fans: Champions of Europe, you'll never sing that

Sheff Utd fans: Champions of League One, you'll never sing that

[Geoff Tipps]

Utterly dominant from the champions elect.

[Gabriel_Hurl]

7 clean sheets from 8 games since Gomez has came back in the team.

Hard to see Matip shifting him when he gets back.

[laoislad]

Job done! This is a procession!

Utterly dominant from the champions elect.

[Armamike]

Pass and win. Crazy number of passes and possession.  What was all the fuss about the Christmas schedule?

[Gabriel_Hurl]

365 days without a league loss and counting.

[Main Street]

365 days is meaningless. Liverpool need to have an invincible season in order to have achieved something special, albeit a shared special achievement.

[Look-Up!]

Wow. I honestly expected the gap to be closed on Liverpool over the Xmas and set us up for another nail biter of a run in but they have been absolutely relentless and are home and hosed already. A modest 2 point average a game from here on would (bar a point or two), mathematically, see them champions. But it will take less than that cos I don't think either City or Leicester will have a 100% record from here till end of season. And even a 2 point average would constitute a crisis of form for this Liverpool squad.
Klopp really is something special and just keeps coming up with the right answers to problems. From the loss of Coutinho which would have been a major spanner for most managers, he has gone from strength to strength. Lost a CL final, won it next year. Got pipped last season in the PL where it looked like they had given everything and hard to see where they could improve. This season they look the real deal. At times they looked uncomfortable leaders last season and stumbled a bit when out in front. Looked much happier when chasing City. But this season it's water off a ducks back.
There is the weight of history and expectation on their shoulders but I don't think it's even a thing. As crazy as it sounds, they actually haven't been at their best yet for large parts of the season and they seem to be improving. Kieta is starting to look like a player. I like the look of the new guy Minamino too and he will most likely develop into something special. So I don't see a drop off or the pressure getting to them. Klopp will have them focused. I honestly believe they know they are champions already and they are just focused on beating City's 100+ points record season as a lay down. The Invincibles record is another matter and very difficult to replicate.

[johnnycool]

Have to say that I don't see what all the fuss is about regarding VAR. Both calls were spot on. The wolves one was offside, marginally or not, therefore no goal. It really is that simple.
Everyone seems to have a problem saying you can't rule goals out if its that close, but that's what VAR is for. We had a 'goal' at Man City last season that was 11 millimetres from going over the line that cost us the title, but that was grand and there was no fuss kicked up over that. So to say we can't be giving these marginal calls offside when they're offside and that it's ruining the game is absolutely ludicrous in my opinion. VAR was brought in to get those tight decisions correct, and that's what it's doing.

But on a side note, a great 2019 and some run we're on, but i'll not believe it until she has red ribbons on the handles.

It's all about margins of error

1) when the ball was actually kicked, i.e. I presume when it leaves the foot is what they're using
2) the line drawn on where the last part of the defender is, not sure of this and can't find out how they draw that line
3) the line drawn on where the scoring part of the attacker is..... as above.

There's a fair bit of tolerance to be allowed for and I'm not sure how they do that but IMO if the thickness of the lines is that said tolerance then any overlapping of the two lines drawn should result in a goal standing as even VAR cannot be sure someone is offside,  benefit of the attacker and all that.

Probably didn't explain that too well...

1)Yes.
2)Yes, the last part of the defender that can play the ball. The line is drawn vertically from that point on his body from floor upwards and that line on the floor is taken.
3)No, whatever body part the attacker scores with isn't taken into account. Like the defender, the last part of the attacker that can play the ball is taken, and the line is drawn the same as the defender's, from the floor vertically upwards to wherever the last part of the attackers body is. These two lines on the floor are measured from the point when the ball is played.
Former referee Dermot Gallagher on Sky Sports says this 3D software is as accurate as can be in the world today, and there is rightly no grey area on offsides, because if you start yapping about marginal offside calls even though they're offiside and trying o change rules etc then that's the beginning of the end of football. So basically if it's offside it's offside, suck it up if you don't like it, because the decision is the correct one.

Absolutely everything has a margin of error no matter how accurate it is. That's just reality.

The grey area in relation to offside could now be minuscule but it's still there!