Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[Angelo]

I agree right up to the Cluxton point. I think when he goes Dublin will be more vunerable

I think Cluxton is overrated in general terms. There's 3 or 4 keepers in the game now every bit as good if not better than him. If Morgan, Beggan or Patton were in goals for Dublin, would they be a worse team? I don't think so.

All goalkeepers have meltdowns and can have spells in big games where kickouts go to pot when pushed up on. The difference is that it's much easier for Cluxton when he has/has had guys like Fenton, McAuley, Flynn, Howard, Connolly, McCarthy, McCaffrey, Scully, Small in that middle third area to hit - players who makes the right move and do the right thing with the ball.

Morgan definitely. Patton - not yet this year but it's only a few games. Beggan - Cluxton much more consistent but maybe not this last year. I think you underestimate Cluxton and his kick outs. He has been phenomenal over the years.

I can't agree.

I don't think Cluxton would give us anything Morgan doesn't if he was in goals for us. He's had his meltdowns before, he had a couple of shockers against Kerry, in the last semi final they played, 2016? He gifted Kerry with a goal and a few points in a matter of minutes. He had a meltdown against Mayo in the closing stages of an All Ireland final that Dublin were winning comfortably and a replay came as a result.

He's a good keeper but I don't think he is any better than the top 3 or 4 around now. He was the pioneer of keepers looking to find players but I think a number of goalkeepers have caught up with him now. Cluxton's job is just easier as he has better players who are bigger, faster, stronger and smarter than other teams and he has a bigger array of them. You look at the Tyrone side and if it is man for man as it sometimes is then we are going to struggle on kickouts against Dublin, they are bigger, stronger and faster than us in the middle of the pitch.

Mayo have won a lot of the kickout battles with Mayo in the past and they have done so with a goalkeeper who it has became obvious in recent weeks struggles on his kickouts and with no discernible kickout strategy. They have won those battles because they can match and maybe even surpass Dublin in the middle area of the pitch.

[Angelo]

Disappointing results for the minors and u20s today. The minors really should have been much more than 3 points up at HT against Kerry but Kerry upped it the second half and much like the u20s, a stupid red card and a black as well for young McGleenan did for it.

I thought that we look to have some very exciting forwards in both sides. Mark Devlin looks an absolute star in the making, Fullerton and Luke Donnelly also looked good for the minors.

I presume Canavan will be getting some minutes next week against Dublin?

[The Golden Years]

Another game lost along the line. Paul Devlin is clueless.  Just putting it out there. 

[tc_manchester]

I thought the line was worse in the minor match. We got absolutely destroyed on kick outs. The only plan was to land it on top of McGleenan. Kerry did not want to kick it long and we handed them every kick out by having a sweeper.

[Localexpert]

Another game lost along the line. Paul Devlin is clueless.  Just putting it out there.

We have a lad who started and finished all of our championship games last year to win the senior championship and he couldn't even get a place on the squad.  Surely his experience gained of closing out tight championship games would have came in handy yesterday.....

Also took off the considerable scoring threat of Tee Quinn.  What was he thinking?

[In hiding]

Another game lost along the line. Paul Devlin is clueless.  Just putting it out there.

We have a lad who started and finished all of our championship games last year to win the senior championship and he couldn't even get a place on the squad.  Surely his experience gained of closing out tight championship games would have came in handy yesterday.....

Also took off the considerable scoring threat of Tee Quinn.  What was he thinking?

I heard Tiarnan Quinn was carrying an injury from the day/night of the Ulster Final. Landed badly I heard

[skeog]

Paul seems confident that several players will make the step up to senior next year.Be good for competition if this is going to happen.

[inroundthesquare]

The sending off looked very harsh on the highlights. Massive turning point. Also as mentioned in Devlin's teamtalk interview Antoin Fox was a big loss in the centre of defence early on. Cork got through the middle channel a lot in the 2nd half.
Tyrone unfortunately couldn't stop Cork's momentum and even though we went 2 up shortly after their goal it never looked secure. To lose a 7 point lead in an All Ireland semi is disappointing for all involved.

[Localexpert]

Another game lost along the line. Paul Devlin is clueless.  Just putting it out there.

We have a lad who started and finished all of our championship games last year to win the senior championship and he couldn't even get a place on the squad.  Surely his experience gained of closing out tight championship games would have came in handy yesterday.....

Also took off the considerable scoring threat of Tee Quinn.  What was he thinking?

I heard Tiarnan Quinn was carrying an injury from the day/night of the Ulster Final. Landed badly I heard

[In hiding]

Another game lost along the line. Paul Devlin is clueless.  Just putting it out there.

We have a lad who started and finished all of our championship games last year to win the senior championship and he couldn't even get a place on the squad.  Surely his experience gained of closing out tight championship games would have came in handy yesterday.....

Also took off the considerable scoring threat of Tee Quinn.  What was he thinking?

I heard Tiarnan Quinn was carrying an injury from the day/night of the Ulster Final. Landed badly I heard

Seems you have a Tee Bee in your bonnet.

Who

[Angelo]

I wouldn't be too hard on the minor management team. They should have had the game out of sight at half time and I don't think they got too much wrong tactically. Kerry were just more ruthless when the chances presented themselves.

[redzone]

I wouldn't be too hard on the minor management team. They should have had the game out of sight at half time and I don't think they got too much wrong tactically. Kerry were just more ruthless when the chances presented themselves.

What were the tactics?

[In hiding]

I wouldn't be too hard on the minor management team. They should have had the game out of sight at half time and I don't think they got too much wrong tactically. Kerry were just more ruthless when the chances presented themselves.

I agree, I wouldn't blame the u20 management either.

[Angelo]

I wouldn't be too hard on the minor management team. They should have had the game out of sight at half time and I don't think they got too much wrong tactically. Kerry were just more ruthless when the chances presented themselves.

What were the tactics?

Whatever they were they seemed to work. We blew two good goal chances in the first half, hit the post with pointed efforts on three occasions and had one of key players get a silly black card and another player pick up a stupid red card with the game entering the melting pot.

[Angelo]

I wouldn't be too hard on the minor management team. They should have had the game out of sight at half time and I don't think they got too much wrong tactically. Kerry were just more ruthless when the chances presented themselves.

I agree, I wouldn't blame the u20 management either.

Not really although I would have question marks on how loose and open the u20s were at the back. In saying that Murnaghan wasn't fit to start, Fox went off with an injury after 6 or 7 minutes and Goodwin who replaced Fox was also lost to a black card before the end of the first half.

I think Tyrone would have seen that game out routinely if Oguz hadn't stupidly got himself a red. I think both the u20s and minors lack of discipline let them down.