The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - #DankeJürgen

[magpie seanie]

I seem to remember Moreno is the previous or one of the previous CL games besides the Sevilla one having a comical outing. Certainly Liverpool supporting guys I know think he's absolutely terrible but maybe I'm giving the Sevilla game too big a weighting as it's one of the few I've seen.

The best you can hope for the in the CL knockout draw is avoiding one of the big guns. Nothing easy at this stage in truth.

[Maroon Manc]

Do the lads who think it was a pen think Salah's goal should have been disallowed for his push on the Everton left back?

[north_antrim_hound]

Do the lads who think it was a pen think Salah's goal should have been disallowed for his push on the Everton left back?

Salah got a few pushes himself but stayed strong and got the goal
Maybe lovren was picking him up in training this week and was not expecting the Everton forward to go down as easy
Salah is a real footballer and simulation is the farthest thing in his mind when in the box

[Esmarelda]

I'll throw this out...of the faller had been say....Luis Suarez when he was playing for Liverpool would the same media have called it a penalty or would they have called Suarez a diver?  Trust me, a huge amount of the 'impartial' media,  as far as young English players are concerned cannot see the woods for the trees. It was never a penalty and the young lad fell as soon as there was any contact.

Now the game should have been out of sight but that's another story. Mane squares the ball. 2-0 at HT and we win 3-4 nil. End of story.

Porto is not the best not the worst draw

I'm not concerned what anyone in the media thinks. I thought it was a penalty.

Do the lads who think it was a pen think Salah's goal should have been disallowed for his push on the Everton left back?

Didn't really see that but have read that some thought it was a foul. Must have a look.

Do the lads who think it was a pen think Salah's goal should have been disallowed for his push on the Everton left back?

Salah got a few pushes himself but stayed strong and got the goal
Maybe lovren was picking him up in training this week and was not expecting the Everton forward to go down as easy
Salah is a real footballer and simulation is the farthest thing in his mind when in the box

Pretty sure I've seen Salah going down this year under for little reason. Can't remember specifically when.

[TabClear]

Do the lads who think it was a pen think Salah's goal should have been disallowed for his push on the Everton left back?

Funny I was thinking that as well. It was more of a shove than the penalty! For what its worth I think the ref got both right albeit I could see how either could have went the other way as both were borderline

[TabClear]

I seem to remember Moreno is the previous or one of the previous CL games besides the Sevilla one having a comical outing. Certainly Liverpool supporting guys I know think he's absolutely terrible but maybe I'm giving the Sevilla game too big a weighting as it's one of the few I've seen.

The best you can hope for the in the CL knockout draw is avoiding one of the big guns. Nothing easy at this stage in truth.

I think the problem is that Moreno's errors tend to be catastrophic. He can have a great game for 89 minutes but is always liable to make an error which will be the one highlighted and remembered if you have not seen the whole game.

[AZOffaly]

It's his positional sense. He's like a Jack Russell chasing 3 tennis balls at the same time.

[mackers]

It's his positional sense. He's like a Jack Russell chasing 3 tennis balls at the same time.

[heganboy]

I think Henderson is a decent honest footballer, but Keita arrives and his number is up. Not sure Can is any different, stronger  but slower than JH. Henderson didn't have anything to offer to break down the massed defence. Salahs goal was excellent and created from nothing, he never actually looks at goal between getting the ball and shooting. That individual ability to break a defence is required at this level. Mane had a stinker.
Lovren is too prone to mistakes, as is mignolet, both surely on borrowed time. Klavan is a stop gap who did well yesterday. Robertson did well given lack of game time, Joe G is flying.

I'd rather Schmeichal than Van Dyke in January window. Also not clear to me what Liverpool would want with another winger.

[Hound]

I think Henderson is a decent honest footballer, but Keita arrives and his number is up. Not sure Can is any different, stronger  but slower than JH. Henderson didn't have anything to offer to break down the massed defence. Salahs goal was excellent and created from nothing, he never actually looks at goal between getting the ball and shooting. That individual ability to break a defence is required at this level. Mane had a stinker.
Lovren is too prone to mistakes, as is mignolet, both surely on borrowed time. Klavan is a stop gap who did well yesterday. Robertson did well given lack of game time, Joe G is flying.

I'd rather Schmeichal than Van Dyke in January window. Also not clear to me what Liverpool would want with another winger.

Henderson's shot at the end is typical of his shortcomings. Poor composure and poor technique.

[AZOffaly]

I think Henderson is a decent honest footballer, but Keita arrives and his number is up. Not sure Can is any different, stronger  but slower than JH. Henderson didn't have anything to offer to break down the massed defence. Salahs goal was excellent and created from nothing, he never actually looks at goal between getting the ball and shooting. That individual ability to break a defence is required at this level. Mane had a stinker.
Lovren is too prone to mistakes, as is mignolet, both surely on borrowed time. Klavan is a stop gap who did well yesterday. Robertson did well given lack of game time, Joe G is flying.

I'd rather Schmeichal than Van Dyke in January window. Also not clear to me what Liverpool would want with another winger.

Henderson's shot at the end is typical of his shortcomings. Poor composure and poor technique.

Henderson's biggest failing is he is not Stevie G. I don't mind him at all. You need creativity around him, but he's serviceable.

[blewuporstuffed]

Well to push someone, you have to extend your arms. Try and push something without extending your arms? If he saw that, then he gives a penalty. If he didn't then he's just guessing.

How far do you have to extend your arms?

Walk up behind someone with the backs of  your hands on  your chest, you barely have to bend your arms to make a pushing movement.

You're right, he's guessing. In my opinion, Lovren gave him enough reason to make the call. And, as it happens, I think it was a correct call.

I think that is fair enough, my only issue with the decision would be, if that is enough of a 'push' for a penalty, then surely there should be a penalty awarded at pretty much every single corner?
It was certainly very soft, but either way , it was really poor defending from Lovren. First to lose the flight of the ball and get caught under it, and then secondly to get that close to a player who was moving away from goal and have very little chance of getting a  shot away and no support up with him.

[Orior]

Burnley are now in the top four.

[laoislad]

Plenty of changes tonight. Karius in goal. Gomez out TAA in. Hendo out Can in.
Fab 4 back together though.
Liverpool XI vs. West Brom: Karius, Alexander-Arnold, Lovren, Klavan, Robertson, Can, Wijnaldum, Coutinho, Salah, Mane, Firmino

[Milltown Row2]

Some strike force tonight, Klopp picking the team the media wants