Quote from: thewobbler on September 11, 2026, 01:47:53 PMJust as a point of order folks.So when Denise Royle, who was giving her parents £20 for Christmas suggested to her brother Anthony, who was giving £200, that they club together and give a joint present that's egalitarianism
If the stumbling block (or major stumbling block) is that ladies believe they should receive exactly the same benefits as men, then it's not equality they're after: it's egalitarianism.
The difference being:
Equality is when everyone is given the some opportunity, regardless of their background or personal situation.
Egalitarianism is when everyone is given the same outcome, regardless of their effort or achievement.
And I'd ask that people here try to understand and accept this. And if what they want to see happen is egalitarianism, then use that word.
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Footnote: Egalitarianism is a lovely concept but in reality it does not work at any level, in any discipline or endeavour. You'll find no successful examples of it working in history. High providers and high achievers just pick up their things and leave, and take those who understand and accept this, with them.