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Just seen this, so sad. I was still at Clann Eireann when Kieran was manager, great guy. Incidentally I was at that League Final, sat in the nally stand

6 of Dublin's 8 scores came from frees how many would you say were actually fouls?

None (couldn't see the last free decision though).

Barry Cahill should have got red for that challenge on Karl Lacey.

To be honest, the game wasn't as bad as people are making out.  It wasn't the greatest AI semi, but it was intense and tough.  Donegal's amount of hand-passing and their defensive game wasn't any worse than what alot of other teams do.  It worked until the last few minutes, but it was their failure to get quick ball into their forward line that was their downfall in the end. 

Tyrone v Kerry in 2003 was 10 times worse than this game.

what have you got against dublin? Every post has has been antidublin

I'd like to see the rules amended so that diving is a red card offence.

It's already a yellow card offence, but I don't think I've ever seen that applied, so what chance is there that refs would wave the red cad if that was the penalty? One of the biggest problems in the game, that remains unrecognised, never mind addressed, is the refusal of referees to apply the rules as written.

a la andy mallon against bradley this year

With regards to the red card, which i thought should have been a yellow. I can see why it was a red though as he does make, albeit very light contact, with the lads chin. Reminds me a bit of marsden's redcard in 03 final.

while maybe not the reason for starting this thread it brings up a good point/question regarding the goading of other teams and over exhuberent celebrations etc - imo is not good.

I will state that our own Joe Brolly irked me a bit when he started blowing the infamous kisses - though part of me was delighted because it was tyrone- but still thought hs shouldnt have done it.

I have took a young lad aside at half time (dublin minor final 2007) and told them to stop trash talking and concentrate on playing football - leading to a much improved perf from the aforementioned player in the second half.

this shouting in players ears etc and all the crap that goes on these days sickens me.
If this happened in the late 80's or 90's the mouty guy would have his fill of it through a well timed punch in the mouth in a tackle. Those days you could sneeze on a player without giving a free and lads knew to shut it or they would get their comeuppence. these days with no physicality in the game, even the watery lads can talk sihte and know they wont get hit !

This can be coached out of the game, same as diving . never encourage players to do this and actually tell playes not to dive or mouth in any training session or team I coach.

you do your talking on the pitch via the scoreboard.

good post. Myself, Id have been hard pressed not to smack someone doing it to me

[That said, O'Gara should not have been sent off either]

I thought it was an excellent game and feel so bad for the kildare team and fans. The ref made a mess at the end and that decision won the game for dublin. That said, O'Gara should not have been sent off either which gave kildare a big advantage

The referee was 100% correct to send him off.
It was probably the only decision he got right all day.
Dunno what the hell Gilroy was at leaving him on the field after the first yellow.
The phrase 'Bull in a china shop' springs to mind.

I said that because i didnt think the first one was a yellow, but reading here, people said he was persistently fouling so maybe you are right. I was trying to watch two games at once in the pub so could have missed the persistent fouling

O'Gara committed three fouls in the game.

so the persistent fouling comments???

But at the same time a certain amount of physicality should be allowed. Goalkeepers for an example are far too protected in my opinion...they already have the advantage of the Square Ball Rule. Yesterday Cluxton fumbled a high ball, which he then managed to get stuck between his legs & whats the Ref do? Blows a free out before the attacker had barely got near him. A Keeper once outside the square should be allowed to be tackled like any other player.

The ball stuck between his legs is still in the goalkeeper's possession?
The ref blew for a free after Cluxton was clearly charged at by a Kildare player.

In the USF just before half-time, a Donegal player  breaking out from his own half was crudely rugby tackled by a Tyrone player. McQuillan blew for a free, but the cynical foul deserved a yellow card, instead McQuillan could be seen laughing, sharing a humourous intercourse with the Tyrone player.
We have often seen this type of cynical play (a Tyrone speciality), repeatedly slowing down the opposing team working the ball out of their own half.
I think only Coldrick takes an appropriate dim view of it

In the first game Donegal slowed down every single Antrim free kick. Antrim even appealed to the referee and he mostly just told them to get on with it. Slowing down play is a killer for many teams attack. It should be taken more seriously and I'd like to see a lot more frees advanced from around the 50 into more scoreable positions.

So if Tyrone slowed down Donegal then it was nothing they aren't inclined to doing themselves

doesnt make it right though

[That said, O'Gara should not have been sent off either]

I thought it was an excellent game and feel so bad for the kildare team and fans. The ref made a mess at the end and that decision won the game for dublin. That said, O'Gara should not have been sent off either which gave kildare a big advantage

The referee was 100% correct to send him off.
It was probably the only decision he got right all day.
Dunno what the hell Gilroy was at leaving him on the field after the first yellow.
The phrase 'Bull in a china shop' springs to mind.

I said that because i didnt think the first one was a yellow, but reading here, people said he was persistently fouling so maybe you are right. I was trying to watch two games at once in the pub so could have missed the persistent fouling

he,s an idiot from a family of idiots

kildare/laois should be good. Id expect us tosee of wicklow

I thought it was an excellent game and feel so bad for the kildare team and fans. The ref made a mess at the end and that decision won the game for dublin. That said, O'Gara should not have been sent off either which gave kildare a big advantage

hoping for a win and a good show to get us back on track

good to see

who would be favourite for this game lads? Also, anyone know which games are live on tele this week so I can plan my sunday down the boozer?

I see it like this. In the past two ulster champoionship campaigns under POR we have had 2 good wins, giving a good platform to build from. However, we have failed to do so. This suggests to me that the team is incapable of putting 2 good championship performances together. The players ave to take some blame but as do, and more so, the management team.