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#4441
General discussion / Re: Maddie McCann
August 05, 2008, 05:53:11 PM
The thing is though, Kate is caught between a rock and a hard place on this one. It is her child that is missing and she is accused, if she does not co-operate with the police, she is the key witness after all, how does she expect the police to find her daughter. If she is guilty she still has to answer the questions or she will look as if she has something to hide. It is quite simple if she has nothing to hide simply answer the questions and walk away in 90 minutes.

"She didnt answer the questions because she is not an idiot." you seem to be implying that she is guilty. Oh I suppose the police are always trying to frame doctors with expensive legal teams and pr machines looking after them. Get real if they were trying to frame someone they would have gone afte the local Village idiot and hung him out to dry. They could not even get this woman to answer a few straight forward and simple questions relating to the disappearance of her own child. How can this be? kate McCann not answering any questions whether she is guilty or innocent stinks to high heaven. Behaving like she did in that police interview shold push most right thinking people into thinking that she might be guilty.
#4442
General discussion / Re: Maddie McCann
August 05, 2008, 05:22:53 PM
I am sorry but her daughter went missing, why would she not answer the questions? She could have answered those questions in an hour and a half and gone home instead of having an 11 hour standoff in the police station. again, why did she not answer the questions? Why would answering the questions have implicated her, if she was completely innocent? Did you read the questions, they look fairly damning on their own, the fact that kate refused to answer them does not really help her case. I have to say that if she was not guilty she should have answered the questions and nothing more could have come of it. Despite the spin being put on this by some of the British press this looks pretty damaging to the McCanns.
#4443
General discussion / Re: Maddie McCann
August 05, 2008, 05:06:17 PM
Crikey, some interview. I fail to see how the "right to silence" is ever helpful in bringing about justice. You should be left with the choice of telling the truth or lying, and liars are, more often than not, caught out.

However, I can see why she refused to answer. Whether guilty or innocent, those 48 questions had nothing to do with finding Maddie, and all to do with implicating Kate - therefore any lawyer would have told her to keep her mouth closed. If innocent, I don't think she'd have anything to gain by answering


No, that is called the police doing their job and interviewing a suspect. If they had arrested a known peadophile and they had refused to answer the questions would you say that is ok as they were simply trying to implicate him. Do you call sitting in a police station for 11 hours and refusing to answer any questions co-operating with the police. If the parents did not co-operate with the police, how do you expect them to find the child. She answered one bloody question. This will show how helpful she was to the police. The one question she answered.

Q.  Are you aware that in not answering the questions you are jeopardising the investigation, which seeks to discover what happened to your daughter?


A.  'Yes, if that's what the investigation thinks.'

This case gets strangere and stranger. The UK based DNA expert did not say it was not maddies DNA. He said"We cannot answer the question: is the match genuine, or is it a chance match?" I think that what that means reading between the lines is that it was a match.
#4444
General discussion / Re: Maddie McCann
November 11, 2007, 10:17:43 PM
It also sells more newspapers. I think you are wrong, the child is obviously dead. Why keep this story alive for so long?

Before the McCanns the media coverage of paedophilia was bordering on the fanatical in the tabloids.
#4445
General discussion / Re: Maddie McCann
November 11, 2007, 03:43:33 PM
It is just another news story to them. They do not care too much about the child. It has finally been dumped off the front page of the tabloids by a kinky sex murder in Italy of a British student. Are these the biggest most newsworthy stories worthy of a 48 page topic on GAA discussion board. I don't think they are. Why do the British tabloids give so much exposure to paedophiles? It seems to sell the papers but are there other reasons behind it?
#4446
General discussion / Re: Irish Author wins Booker Prize
October 18, 2007, 01:47:31 PM
"an unflinching look at a grieving family in tough and striking language". If you are worried about being bored I might give this one a miss.
#4447
General discussion / Re: Maddie McCann
September 17, 2007, 10:18:04 PM
Anyone find it interesting that the McCanns are both nhs doctors and something like this should happen to them. I have heard it said that glasses aren't the only thing that comes free on the NHS if you know what I mean. ;)
#4448
General discussion / Re: Maddie McCann
September 14, 2007, 11:07:22 PM
"When were they accused"

Of course they have not been directly accused yet but we are talking about the situation where if they are accused should they be allowed to spend money from the fund to defend themselves. Until they are accused they should not be spending money to defend themselves.
#4449
General discussion / Re: Rugby world cup
September 14, 2007, 10:40:27 PM
England have really fallen apart since the last world cup. A lot of it is down to the clubs over there who have the players destroyed playing 40 matches a year. O'Driscoll and O'Connell would play roughly half that number. They had lost Wilkinson, Barkely, Vickery before the game as well as their best outside back strettle. The ylost Robinson after an hour and now look like they might lose against Samoa.
#4450
General discussion / Re: Maddie McCann
September 14, 2007, 10:11:50 PM
gaagaa. Do you really beleive that. I think the McCanns have hoodwinked you. They have fooled a lot of people. Why on earth do you want people who are accused of causing the death of that child to use money from the "Madeleine fund" to allow them get away with such a crime. You are making no sense.
#4451
General discussion / Re: Maddie McCann
September 13, 2007, 10:23:23 PM
I will start at the beginning. there can be no doubt that from the outset the McCanns were guilty of something close to criminal neglect. The left their children alone in an unlocked apartment while they went boozing and as  result one of those children is missing. This is not contested by anyone as a result of this they will always have been police suspects in the disappearance of their daughter. The fact that the police did not jump in and make them official suspects from the outset is irrelelvant. The McCanns will also have realised that while people would have sympathised with them, their reputations as solid citizens and good doctors would be destroyed by leaving their children alone. A possible conviction for child neglect would have disaterous consequences for their careers.

From a very early stage the McCanns mounted a campaighn to highlight the disappearance of their daughter and keep it in the media spotlight. This helped to reinforce the beleif that their daughter was kidnapped by a paedophile. If the media bought this and they did to an enourmous extent the police were forced into acting as if they beleived this was the most likely outcome. The media then found Robert Murat a local character who aroused suspicion. No evidence was ever found linking him to the crime unlike the McCanns. Murat is still a suspec teven though no evidence linking him to the child has ever been found.

The McCanns media campaign has focused on finding their daughter, when the Portuguese police began linking the McCanns to the disappearancce of the daughter, the media campaign that the McCanns had created told the police to focus on looking for their daughter, they were trying to apply moral pressure on the police to investigate other leads instead of them.  By mounting the international campaiign the McCanns forced the police into following many false leads in countries all over Europe and North Africa. What has this media campaing acheived so far, has it done anything to help find the child? Or did it merely paint the McCanns as amazingly dedicated parents, which they were not having left their vey young children alone in an apartment to go drinking. It has also dragged the reputation of the Portuguese police into the mud very successfully. This could be handy in hte PR battle if the case ever goes to trial.

Lately the noises coming form the McCann PR machine have changed. Saying to the police find a body or you have no case, this shows that the mask might be slipping. Maybe there never was a campaign to find Madeleine, maybe it was all just a campaign to protect the reputation of the wonderful doctors and deflect attention elsewhere.

The McCanns also said they would carry out independent tests of the hire car. I found this to be very bold. Imagine an ordinary decent criminal whose DNA or finger prints have turned up at a crime scene demanding that he be able to have independent tests carried out to verify the truth of the police investigations. To me the notion of independent tests in a criminal investigation seems ludicrous. What makes the McCanns so special. If it comes to trial they will have lawyers and abudndant dna experts to challenge the evidence of the police.

I am keeping my powder dry as what may have happened as any opinion of mine is just idle specualtion.
#4452
General discussion / Re: Maddie McCann
September 11, 2007, 10:36:25 PM
The other thing that has generally stayed out of the press a lot is that the McCanns are both doctors. Doctors are often referred to as Dr Gerry McCann or Dr Kate McCann. It has always been Kate and Gerry McCann in the media with occasional mentions of the fact that they are doctors. The thing I can not fathom is that if the McCanns accidentally killed their daughter that they would go into a panic and hide the body and tell everyone else she had been kidnapped. They are doctors who are very cool operators in my experience and Jerry a cardiologist or heart surgeon you would not expect to be of a panicky mindset. What do the police mean by accidental? They gave her too much sedatives?

The scenario of accidental death doesn't seem plausible. In my opinion if they are involved in the death then it must have been murder. The other scenarion that they want you to beleive is that they are being framed which is not impossible. It is however becoming evident that they were involved in the death of their daughter.