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[This isn't the media]

I've been to as many games in North Antrim this year as a dedicated caravaner but I will tell the wife u were asking and if Shaws road was round the corner my diesel but might be less! But whatever - I don't need to explain what games I watch to a knob like u.
I will leave the personal stuff to your infant mentality MIBAG.

Mr2 - my point isn't about Hugh at all. I've always found him to be grand ref.
it's about perception.
Firstly I rarely see big PJ complain in the media so I'm guessing he let go a bit more that just a slap on joey scullion.
Secondly, even if that is the case, why did the refs committee and just appoint someone different when I've no doubt they could. When an issue hits media or gets attention - just be pragmatic.
If Rossa were to lose by a point and complain they suffered like loughgiel I'm sure glenarrife might not be too happy! Altho league standings will of course reflect the whole year not one game.

It's not a big issue - and I expect ports to win easy - I'm just saying why not change the ref when u can? Or is there a reason?

Well more importantly - anyone know much about these Tuesday meetings and workshops the county are having?
Will they have any effect on next year?
Or are they just talking shops?

This isn't the media, this is just a very small forum with about 30 poster from Antrim on it. Though if you believed the hype you'd think there where thousands on it. A lot of hearsay and posts are blown out of proportion by others.

The slap resulted in a broken thumb, intention was there, it happens, all heightened because Loughgiel are in the Ulster final without him, Id be raging to, we lost two of our main players the week before while playing in a sevens competition but we just got on with it. The big game will be in Feb

PJ had can article in the Gaelic life about the referring of the game.

And your players were through red cards which is not exactly the same thing as loughgiel with joey.

Still without them, big enough panel to work with like Loughgiel, as said no loss till Feb. Managers should not go to press and not give off about referees. They will not exactly make them the referees best mate.

I've been to as many games in North Antrim this year as a dedicated caravaner but I will tell the wife u were asking and if Shaws road was round the corner my diesel but might be less! But whatever - I don't need to explain what games I watch to a knob like u.
I will leave the personal stuff to your infant mentality MIBAG.

Mr2 - my point isn't about Hugh at all. I've always found him to be grand ref.
it's about perception.
Firstly I rarely see big PJ complain in the media so I'm guessing he let go a bit more that just a slap on joey scullion.
Secondly, even if that is the case, why did the refs committee and just appoint someone different when I've no doubt they could. When an issue hits media or gets attention - just be pragmatic.
If Rossa were to lose by a point and complain they suffered like loughgiel I'm sure glenarrife might not be too happy! Altho league standings will of course reflect the whole year not one game.

It's not a big issue - and I expect ports to win easy - I'm just saying why not change the ref when u can? Or is there a reason?

Well more importantly - anyone know much about these Tuesday meetings and workshops the county are having?
Will they have any effect on next year?
Or are they just talking shops?

This isn't the media, this is just a very small forum with about 30 poster from Antrim on it. Though if you believed the hype you'd think there where thousands on it. A lot of hearsay and posts are blown out of proportion by others.

The slap resulted in a broken thumb, intention was there, it happens, all heightened because Loughgiel are in the Ulster final without him, Id be raging to, we lost two of our main players the week before while playing in a sevens competition but we just got on with it. The big game will be in Feb

I see on the Ulster Colleges twitter a few of next weeks MacRory games. One question, why are so many during the school day? What happened to the traditional Saturday morning slot. I think it takes it away from the competition. Any games this Saturday?

I'd say that since the likes of Ray Morgan and Adrian Mc Guckian have retired that the new breed of teachers just aren't prepared to give their time on a Saturday the way it used to be.  Years ago all football was played on a Saturday but now apart from MacRory all other football is played during the week according to the fixtures and results on the Ulster Colleges twitter and facebook.  There are also new schools coming into the colleges who probably dont want to play on a Saturday either.

Do the teachers get paid for taking teams on a Saturday?

They get extra money for taking the teams (a point) having them during the week is difficult to get referees to do the games

Going to head down to Ballybofey on the sat night (2nd), maybe stay in Jacksons, will  the game be defo on and no f**king about due to the International rules?

[culturally similar]

What has "cheering for Rooney" etc got to do with anything?
When you are cheering for Rooney with Man United, you are also cheering for Robin Van Persie and loads of other nationalities. At the same time, you are cheering against Lampard, Gerrard etc.

I cheer for England because we are far more culturally similar to them than to any other country and because of the huge enjoyment the Barclays Premier League™ gives me.

The English, like Protestants in the North, don't have a culture.

I dont understand why anyone from Ireland would support England.

Goggled English culture, dung!! I'd say the best they have is the literature and cheese featured heavily  , though I've always preferred Irish writing i do like a good cheddar 

I think he was hinting at - had he not dislocated his shoulder, Cummins' team would not have beaten them and gone on to win it....

Exactly, no in fairness it was in a tackle with Cummins and their fullback!! Couldn't get in back in place till after the match.

What are you implying? A Down man taking a team playing a  relegated team already.

My point was more about how often does a ref officiate the same team 2 weeks running
- especially when there were questions over his 1st performance.
Surely it would have been easier to assign another ref?
The game itself is not the issue - it's how why this ref appointment was made.

Referees are appointed by the referee committee, I'm sure it's down to availability location and other factors (experience fitness...) A lad was unfortunate to break his thumb in a game the referee did not set out that day to allow that to happen, only according to the Loughgiel ones who were there the lad could have been carded long before the incident and maybe this would have curtailed him, maybe not, it's still not Hugh's fault.  I've refereed Lamhs 2 games in a row so I don't think there is a policy of refereeing the same team in separate weeks, Why would you think that that should be in place?

Another twist in the Dawson saga in IN today . Not a major shock as we all suspected there was more to it but why oh why does the county board leave themselves wide open for ridicule. Unprofessional is being kind

What did the article say?

On another note I understand the Johnnies were dishing out a bit of dirt in their under 21 match v St Brigids. Seemed a comfortable result and am guessing was never in doubt before they fielded with all their juvenile success of late so one wonders why?! Belfast (G)gaels...tut tut again.

handbags concernin 2 lads who were as bad as each other.move on,nothing to see here!

Not what I heard sir but happy to move on...if thugs would do likewise from the Gaelic pitch!

i think there was 3 yellow cards the whole game.hardly a belfast gaels type game,more like somebody trying to stir the shit!

No shit-stirring here sir...just kind of think dirty actions on the field should not be missed. The mpre they go on they more they will continute to go on.

May be misinformed and I wasn't there but a few belts to the head/throat is grand sure...isn't it.

There's a difference between being hard and fair and downright thuggary. The lines are most definitely blurred in Antrim (especially Belfast) GAA.

St Galls should be the example for everyone about playing hard but fair. Never any dirt associated with them. Sickening criminal acts are too often carried out by teams and each and every incident must be highlighted or else it will continue. Its not right to go out to play football/hurling and be hospitalised by a broken jaw/leg etc following a criminal assault. Do these Neanderthals not remember incidents such as what happened to Marc McGovern of Fermanagh in USA when he was brain damaged as they are cowardly punching or kicking someone from behind/their blindside or swinging a hurl at their head. People who knowingly, wrongfully dismiss some acts only serve to ensure that they recur time and again. As MR2 said if id have cowardly carried out such an act from behind unprovoked (other than the fact someone got the better of them at sport, which is usually the provocation here) done the same my Da woulda emptied me, not supported me.

Not talking about the Johnnies here (seems I have to put a disclaimer in now for everything I say) but we are at the point were 'hard men' of the 80's are now the fathers of players that are plying their trade in the juvenile/senior grades, it's very difficult for these lads to not be influenced by these stories form their dads. Hopefully this will die off. which makes me think of teams that are hard but fair (not dirty) teams- Creggan, Cargin (now, they had a bad rep years ago) Naomhgall, Portglenone, St Teresa's, Eire Og, Moneyglass, St Brigids GAC Rossa, St Enda's, and  Dunloy. Just my opinion

We've had a few rockets over the years but they usually never lasted, was never in our training (I always wonder did teams train players how to be dirty cnuts, or were they always dirty cnuts)

On another note the lads are training away and playing a few games to keep them ticking over, since the final was so long ago I hope they are up to speed as the Donegal Champions will have two weeks and straight into it

What are you implying? A Down man taking a team playing a  relegated team already.

I married into a Spanish family so I have a decent chance of a few good excuses to got to the pub at unusual hours.

I live in England and I generally don't equate their football team with any historic or nationalist issues. I don't mind how they do and for the pleasure it gives many of my English friends I am happy for them to do well.

I often get people having a go at my patriotism for not supporting the Rep. of Ireland football team. They are just a team in a sport I have little more than a passing interest in. I don't take interest in athletics or equestrian sports either but no one questions it then. I wish them well because they are Irish naturally.

As for English football. Probably by the time the world cup rolls around the media will have hung Roy Hodgeson and it didn't take long with is 'racist' non-event.

Be careful though, I was called a hun for having a go at Celtic, sorry he posted that I was worse than a hun 

Brilliant hurler and a decent footballer also, played both for his county and won many a Poc Fada. Had the pleasure of playing against him during the Sevens at St Judes, during the game I dislocated my shoulder was in agony but managed to get it back in. They beat us by a few points and went on to win it i think. We, well Karl Stewart scored a goal past him, was the highlight of our weekend

When played in the Americas it's usually a team from there, so any betting should be placed on the locals, Brazil and Argentina being the obvious ones.

Hopefully England get put out in the second round as they normally get through the first stage, just

Another twist in the Dawson saga in IN today . Not a major shock as we all suspected there was more to it but why oh why does the county board leave themselves wide open for ridicule. Unprofessional is being kind

What did the article say?

On another note I understand the Johnnies were dishing out a bit of dirt in their under 21 match v St Brigids. Seemed a comfortable result and am guessing was never in doubt before they fielded with all their juvenile success of late so one wonders why?! Belfast (G)gaels...tut tut again.

handbags concernin 2 lads who were as bad as each other.move on,nothing to see here!

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On the under 21 topic, I see they have introduced a b championship for first round teams that have been knocked out, good or bad?

Time for Antrim down and Derry to forget about the ulster championship.
Let the other 6 counties compete for it?

Yeah that be a better idea, for more competitive if we had Carlow Laois  Westmeath Offaly Wexford, though they would think different, Scrap the provincial finals and have a seeded competition  based on the league positions, they play off with a chance to meet the seeded teams in the quarter finals.

While this year was great in terms of hurling I believe this would be great to

Yeah..can we get back to the BGaels discussion 

Yeah that was a fairy tale story lol