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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: February 22, 2020, 03:42:21 PM »
Yea it's just over. Waterford beat Sligo by 2

Strange league! A win tomorrow would hopefully set up a promotion push

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: February 22, 2020, 03:37:24 PM »
Sligo losing late on to Waterford

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: February 22, 2020, 03:07:40 PM »
I hope most of u arenít involved, because if going by your ability to read any wonder clubs in Belfast with kids from 16-18 are fecked. Yes the volunteers in the clubs that canít feild minor teams with the populations they have, have failed. Dublin recognised this 15 years ago and put paid skilled coaches into every club who matched the funding offered with 50% if their own resources whose remit was to coach the volunteers to be better coaches, coaches the kids and go into the clubs primary schools to coach. I could go on but its clear how dead the thinking is here. Backwoods stuff
Love the banter DK but feel you are harsh on volunteer and failure. Perhaps they underachieved or had a weak pool of players. Money isn't the panacea for all ills otherwise teams like Creggan would have bought a few all county titles with the vast sums of money spent on managers

Cargin do alright as do Síneil with outside managers

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: February 21, 2020, 05:57:36 PM »
I don't think 15 -18 year olds are in Paul Donnellys remit. Most will have already made their minds up at 15 that playing Gaa competitively is not for them. The battle for hearts and minds lies with the 6 -12 year olds....youngsters aiming to be the next Neil Mc Manus or Conor Murray, playing for club and county.
Gaelfast will make a huge difference, that and the social media provided by Sean Kelly and Saffron Gael which means the youngsters can see their photos and match reports and start seeing a bigger picture for themselves as they get older.

Maybe we just have to accept that sometimes it needs to hit rock bottom before the cycle begins to turn. I don't think anyone can deny that Gaelic Games in Belfast has slipped down the pecking order in terms of teenagers priorities. Three or four years should start to see a difference and that will be good for everyone.
Perhaps if there was a precise plan published for Gaelfast we would be not be surmising on remits. If we can't tackle drop out rates at older teen age then we will not fully maximise the benefits of Gaelfast. Outside the city we are doing OK but I grew up in Belfast and its agonising to see the disparity to SW & NW.
There are many issues in Belfast and its not fair to level all the criticism at volunteers

Who's blaming volunteers?

Him. Seemingly, theyíre useless and until some man is getting a few bob the whole thing is fcuked.

The irony of it all, a good posters on here bemoaning managers allegedly getting paid. Well havenít the volunteers in these clubs failed miserably. You see, to engage these players at that age you need skills and knowledge and itís clear what has happened is beyond their abilities.

Without our volunteers our clubs wouldn't function. These paid managers don't look after the under 6's or even the minors, so they don't develop anyone in fairness, that's all done before they become seniors.

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General discussion / Re: TV Show recommendations
« on: February 21, 2020, 05:53:40 PM »
Balance, seriously? I'd be interested to hear what way you would you provide balance to such a topic? Like, is there a counterpoint to actually put forward? ???

Yeah was thinking that

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: February 21, 2020, 05:52:44 PM »
Just seen a video on Liverpool's new training facilities at Kirby, outstanding

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: February 21, 2020, 03:11:49 PM »
I don't think 15 -18 year olds are in Paul Donnellys remit. Most will have already made their minds up at 15 that playing Gaa competitively is not for them. The battle for hearts and minds lies with the 6 -12 year olds....youngsters aiming to be the next Neil Mc Manus or Conor Murray, playing for club and county.
Gaelfast will make a huge difference, that and the social media provided by Sean Kelly and Saffron Gael which means the youngsters can see their photos and match reports and start seeing a bigger picture for themselves as they get older.

Maybe we just have to accept that sometimes it needs to hit rock bottom before the cycle begins to turn. I don't think anyone can deny that Gaelic Games in Belfast has slipped down the pecking order in terms of teenagers priorities. Three or four years should start to see a difference and that will be good for everyone.
Perhaps if there was a precise plan published for Gaelfast we would be not be surmising on remits. If we can't tackle drop out rates at older teen age then we will not fully maximise the benefits of Gaelfast. Outside the city we are doing OK but I grew up in Belfast and its agonising to see the disparity to SW & NW.
There are many issues in Belfast and its not fair to level all the criticism at volunteers

Who's blaming volunteers?

Over the next 5 years Gaelfast has been instructed to generate a better GAA Belfast with our youngest gaels and school kids, The the reasons why we lose teenagers are plenty, they are not bothered anymore/lost interest, drink/drugs, other sports, poor leagues not structured like soccer, going away to college and so on.

Some of these problems lie everywhere, not just in Belfast. Rural clubs will tell you low birth rates hit them the hardest and for the older players it would be moving away due to work.

Growing up in Belfast, outside of rioting the GAA didn't have too many distractions and schools were very much involved with the coaching and GAA development. Clubs had more money and life wasn't in the fast lane it is now, being brought to Croke park was cheap, if not long, but the craic on the way down was great, the manager had a bus that picked everyone up for games and dropped them off at night. Numbers were not a issue, distractions were less, the peace process has played a part, as its no coincidence that the opening up of the city as enable kids to try other sports.

Gaelfast has 5 years to spend £1 million. £2000 grand a year, plenty of money but to fix the problems that have been brought up its not a lot. Compare that money to what Dublin gets and how they have used it.

I'd give it time, stop looking at fixing problems further up the ladder and start at the bottom rung of the ladder, building better foundations will give us a better future.


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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: February 21, 2020, 09:19:19 AM »
They should be looking to emulate the United 99 treble season . United won the title that year on 79 pts. Liverpool are currently on 76 pts . Its been argued that its not a strong Pl this season. Liverpool going unbeaten in the League would be a big achievement though.

I'm nearly sure fergies highest ever total was 92pts or there abouts. In 2016 Leicester got 81pts and won the league by 10 points. This is not a weak league, the last few years has been the strongest league there's ever been.
4 European Finalists last season and all clubs still involved in Europe this season... not bad going for clubs from such a weak league...

Whatever suits your narrative I suppose, the CL is the only show in town regarding Europe, Spurs will be out after getting bate at home, City aint playing great lately, and any league that has a difference of 22 points between 1st and 2nd would seem (to any neutrals anyway) to be poor enough, what was the difference between 2nd and third last year?

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: February 21, 2020, 08:59:38 AM »
They should be looking to emulate the United 99 treble season . United won the title that year on 79 pts. Liverpool are currently on 76 pts . Its been argued that its not a strong Pl this season. Liverpool going unbeaten in the League would be a big achievement though.

I'm nearly sure fergies highest ever total was 92pts or there abouts. In 2016 Leicester got 81pts and won the league by 10 points. This is not a weak league, the last few years has been the strongest league there's ever been.

Do you think its been the strongest league ever? Liverpool these past two seasons have been amazing, but the rest bar City last year have been dung, I suppose that's not Liverpool's fault but I wouldn't be putting statements like that about

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: February 20, 2020, 11:27:47 PM »
Delegate count:
Buttigieg 22
Sanders 21
Warren 8
Klobuchar 7
Biden 6
Bloomberg 0

Betting odds for 2020 winner:

Trump 8/13
Sanders 4/1
Bloomberg 9/1
Biden 20/1

Bloomberg took a hiding last night. He was like a duck out of water. Warren obliterated him. Will be interesting to see how that affects the polling numbers over the next few days, and if his high burn rate can take the bad look off it. I just wish he'd get out of the race and put his money into something useful like flipping the 4 senate seats we're going to need.

Thatís seriously good odds on Trump

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General discussion / Re: The Official Golf Thread
« on: February 20, 2020, 11:03:19 PM »
Last 5 starts

Won
3rd
Won
3rd
5th

World No1
 ;)

MP seems very bitter

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General discussion / Re: Holidays
« on: February 20, 2020, 10:17:10 PM »
Was thinking about booking a short trip with the wife in early September weather be decent and the prices prob be a bit better.

Dubrovnik
Lake Garda

Those are the two options Im thinking off - anyone pick one out of that two and give an tips if they been there?
Also thinking Dubrovnik but in March - likely to be a bit cold though. Interested to hear views too.

Loved Lake Garda - look at hotel aqva Sirmione if just adults.

Iíll be able to take my adult kids to that place soon!   :-\

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General discussion / Re: The Official Golf Thread
« on: February 20, 2020, 09:29:34 PM »
Why does everyone hate McIlroy.  I think he's fascinating and for someone who lives on a different planet due to fame and all the rest, he seems like quite a nice fella.

It's pure jealousy. The same people probably hated David Beckham.
LOL Beckham is/was an out and out tosser. Pick someone else.

Orior is very good on the wind ups!

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: February 20, 2020, 08:26:47 PM »
I like debate so I won't take exception to your comments and yes maybe the clubs do need to up theiir game but Belfast's problems are numerous
- to many clubs fighting for players
- lack community GAA spirit evident in many SW & NA clubs
- a severe mental health crisis affecting West & North Belfast's teenagers leading to many lost lives
- years of under investment by Belfast City Council V investment in soccer
- the loss of Casement
So for these reasons we need Gaelfast to help us help ourselves with our teenager problems which is showing itself in minor football teams getting fewer and fewer

Itís not Gaelfastís main agenda at that level Iíd suspect, driving and developing a passion to our youngsters, under 6/8/10ís whoíll hopefully filter into regular leagues with good structures and better coaching at schools and clubs will help with retention.

Youíll get better results from that than trying to encourage our current 16/17 to Ďstay oní

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General discussion / Re: Electric garage doors
« on: February 19, 2020, 11:53:17 PM »
Electric grinder, do door insert and put hinges on it!

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