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General discussion / Re: The US policing crisis thread
« on: Today at 07:34:35 PM »
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.boston.com/news/local-news/2018/04/13/man-charged-with-murdering-yarmouth-police-officer-sean-gannon/amp

My buddy attempted to serve a warrant on the same individual 2 weeks before he shot Officer Gannon

Cops aren’t putting pensioners out of pubs-they’re dealing with extremely dangerous criminals and unpredictable and violent drug addicts


And the fire dept in a local town were ordered to remove a flag honoring officer Michael Chesna after someone complained

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.boston.com/news/local-news/2018/07/16/weymouth-police-officer-michael-chesna-vera-adams-fatally-shot/amp

But the cops are always the bad guys, right?

What about a sensible approach, if they are so dangerous why intercept on the street? Wait till they go to kindergarten or middle school and lift them

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How were the Irish Prods treated in the south post 21?

The elevated position of the catholic church in the new state is remarkable, since the church didn’t appear to be  instrumental in the securing of “freedom” . However they seem to have been successful in influencing FG and FF in the new state. No doubt that made it uncomfortable for Protestants with relocation to Britain and the North etc probably contributing to a dwindling population. Those that remained would mainly have become integrated in the new state . I am not aware of strong evidence that there was large Protestant unemployment, gerrymandering, voting discrimination, housing discrimination or sectarian violence , to the same extent as the North, but I stand corrected if others know better.

I don’t think there was to be honest but the emigration was substantial and children in schools seemed to be educated the Irish way which pushed kids to be educated in England or up north!

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General discussion / Re: The US policing crisis thread
« on: Today at 06:57:00 PM »
Did they have their own guns or... are they bring charged with possession of the cops guns that they allegedly grabbed?

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How were the Irish Prods treated in the south post 21?

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General discussion / Re: Teachers get it handy!
« on: Today at 03:47:38 PM »
Yeah, it appears prior performance is part of the moderation process that needs to take place. CCEA have already said that before their intervention top grades had increased by 10%, on a normal year it would probably be between 1-2%.

What percentage is given towards previous results from the school and what percentage is given from the predicted grades given by the teacher?

CCEA Chief Exec wasn't giving anything away on Nolan yesterday morning about the weightings on all the different criteria being used. But he did say grades could go up or down based on that.

The Scots have rowed back now. All results to revert back to teachers initial grades.

So teachers who can get bonussed on grades can now decide for themselves??!!

Some can of worms this is!!

What schools are giving bonus's?

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I have long held the view that had unionists recognised two cultures and administered the state fairly then we wouldn't have had the discord of the last 99 years.

I think the ultimate aim of the head honchos of unionism (and London) was a sort of ethnic cleansing, post partition. Treat Catholics so bad that they could no longer put up with things, and piss off over the border. So, basically, we had the discord of the last 99 years because all Catholics didn’t piss off over the border.

Didn’t Thatcher once suggest that they should re-draw the border to place areas like South Armagh in the Republic. That was the mentality.
The thing is, the more staunch Ulster gentlemen still hold these views, they still think that if people don’t aspire to the continuing partition of this country that they should “fúck off back to Ireland”. You have men in their 50s who have barely left Belfast their entire lives, bar maybe to visit Glasgow or Benidorm, who form their views on places like south Armagh based on the likes of the deceased  Willie Fraser.

They think the indigenous culture is not worth preserving, they think the language is little more than a hobby (except of course when being weaponised by “SFIRA”). They think the GAA hall doubles up as a weapons dump for the local IRA brigade.  Even your more moderate  “Unionist” would probably prefer if the Irish language died on its hole, such is the furore any time an ILA is brought up.

Meanwhile, your rates and taxes are paying for the annual clean up across the north after the 11th and 12th, the fire brigade to be on standby incase the houses catch fire, the council workers to come and board up houses to stop the windows from melting, even the contractors on the westlink to cover the gantry to prevent fire damage! You’re paying for the police to do nothing (maybe hold the ladder) while loyalist flags are strategically placed to cause maximum offence, you’re paying for their overtime when they police parades.

100 year of “cultural supremacy” will hopefully mark the beginning of the end.
You did grow up here during the troubles? The amount of bombs that went off in Belfast alone which caused huge damage and clean up, more than your 11th and 12th days currently, the rate hikes would have the same i'd assume
I was addressing the point applesisapples made about Unionists not recognising Irish culture while they ran our wee colony, while they no longer call the shots, the old attitudes remain. I’d also argue the whole point of bombs going off in Belfast was to cause economic havoc.

But by bombing the economy, it was doing exactly what you were complaining about.. Cherry picking!

The bombing didn't bring about peace either

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General discussion / Re: Teachers get it handy!
« on: Today at 03:28:48 PM »
Yeah, it appears prior performance is part of the moderation process that needs to take place. CCEA have already said that before their intervention top grades had increased by 10%, on a normal year it would probably be between 1-2%.

What percentage is given towards previous results from the school and what percentage is given from the predicted grades given by the teacher?

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: Today at 03:27:22 PM »
There's the first antrim club(I am aware of anyway) to cease activities. A GNM player tested positive.

Not great, games wise and obviously health wise of member... I know we had a couple of non playing members before our games resumed ... But all those within that squad have to do is get tested.. your result will be available the next day!

Suspend is right but get them tested right away and it wont cause too much disruption

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General discussion / Re: Teachers get it handy!
« on: Today at 03:08:07 PM »
In other news, the results are coming out this Thursday for the A level students

Going by the complete fcuk up in Scotland it seems that there may be similar issues here..

My kids are both waiting on results A level's and GCSE .. The teachers have put a huge amount of time into getting the 'correct' results based on previous tests like AS's and so on, but the problem in Scotland seems to be the that they don't have the same testing method as we do here for A level students? Are tests in Scotland carried out in lower 6th?
Prior performance of the school is part of their algorithm which seems to be a key issue. My eldest is waiting on GCSEs and to be honest it could be a mixed bag as like most boys especially, he had the brains but coasted and was expecting to cram and do well in 5th year. Back-fired this year but I'm not massively concerned as it's GCSE and therfore a stepping stone to A Level. Could be massive issues for A Level pupils.

Is there not something similar in operation here as well?

Yes there was, and if that’s the case my daughter will be happy if that’s happening

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General discussion / Re: Teachers get it handy!
« on: Today at 12:45:48 PM »
In other news, the results are coming out this Thursday for the A level students

Going by the complete fcuk up in Scotland it seems that there may be similar issues here..

My kids are both waiting on results A level's and GCSE .. The teachers have put a huge amount of time into getting the 'correct' results based on previous tests like AS's and so on, but the problem in Scotland seems to be the that they don't have the same testing method as we do here for A level students? Are tests in Scotland carried out in lower 6th?

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I have long held the view that had unionists recognised two cultures and administered the state fairly then we wouldn't have had the discord of the last 99 years.

I think the ultimate aim of the head honchos of unionism (and London) was a sort of ethnic cleansing, post partition. Treat Catholics so bad that they could no longer put up with things, and piss off over the border. So, basically, we had the discord of the last 99 years because all Catholics didn’t piss off over the border.

Didn’t Thatcher once suggest that they should re-draw the border to place areas like South Armagh in the Republic. That was the mentality.
The thing is, the more staunch Ulster gentlemen still hold these views, they still think that if people don’t aspire to the continuing partition of this country that they should “fúck off back to Ireland”. You have men in their 50s who have barely left Belfast their entire lives, bar maybe to visit Glasgow or Benidorm, who form their views on places like south Armagh based on the likes of the deceased  Willie Fraser.

They think the indigenous culture is not worth preserving, they think the language is little more than a hobby (except of course when being weaponised by “SFIRA”). They think the GAA hall doubles up as a weapons dump for the local IRA brigade.  Even your more moderate  “Unionist” would probably prefer if the Irish language died on its hole, such is the furore any time an ILA is brought up.

Meanwhile, your rates and taxes are paying for the annual clean up across the north after the 11th and 12th, the fire brigade to be on standby incase the houses catch fire, the council workers to come and board up houses to stop the windows from melting, even the contractors on the westlink to cover the gantry to prevent fire damage! You’re paying for the police to do nothing (maybe hold the ladder) while loyalist flags are strategically placed to cause maximum offence, you’re paying for their overtime when they police parades.

100 year of “cultural supremacy” will hopefully mark the beginning of the end.

You did grow up here during the troubles? The amount of bombs that went off in Belfast alone which caused huge damage and clean up, more than your 11th and 12th days currently, the rate hikes would have the same i'd assume

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I would never refer to the place I live as NI, why should we acknowledge a failed, sectarian statelet, purposely set up to discriminate and gerrymander with an inbuilt Unionist majority, a Protestant state for a Protestant people .... guess what, 2021 is expected to show a clear nationalist majority in the north.  Our unionist community can at least be assured that they will receive equality in a new Ireland, and be treated a hell of a lot better than they treated Catholics in the first 50 years of their unionist dream state. The first 100 years of this place will also be the last 100 ... I hope I live to see that day.

This.

The failed putrid statelet is in its death throes, English nationalism and Scottish independence will help put it out of its misery. Unionists will need to get over their Stockholm syndrome and realise the Brits don't give a flying fiddler's fcuk about them.

And will you except their traditions when there is a UI?

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: Today at 08:02:04 AM »
But you can’t justify that’s there’s no justification for feeling disgruntled at the police service that is there to ‘serve and protect’ its citizens But has been routinely seen to been given a free hand to shoot to kill...

I suppose you supported the shoot to kill operations that were carried out in the north

450 people have been murdered so far this year in Chicago

Cops are operating in a war zone, often with life and death decisions to make in a millisecond

There are bad cops and there are reckless cops and no one is excusing their actions.

But painting ALL cops based on the actions of a few is a very very dangerous track to take and is leading to a serious breakdown in law and order. 

Guess who the majority of the  victims of this breakdown are going to be?

I’ll give you a hint.....it won’t be white people

A good breakdown of the paramilitaries in jail during the troubles were generally from the working classes.

There will always be a marginalised group that carry out ‘crime’

If people were better educated and given same opportunities then you’ll have less crime, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to work that out

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: August 10, 2020, 11:54:38 PM »
But you can’t justify that’s there’s no justification for feeling disgruntled at the police service that is there to ‘serve and protect’ its citizens But has been routinely seen to been given a free hand to shoot to kill...

I suppose you supported the shoot to kill operations that were carried out in the north

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: August 10, 2020, 11:49:36 PM »
What clubs have got Social Clubs that are actually open on a daily basis?
St Galls, O’Dees, Davitts, Gort na Mona, St Paul’s.

Lámh Dhearg, St. John’s, Sarsfields I think are only open a few days a week but I’m not 100% on that.

Probably forgot some too.

St Endas also has a bar... but that’s a SW club  ;D

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