So the season has drawn to a close, firstly congratulations to Tyrone, no one can say anything other that they were deserving winners.....So here is mt All Star team for 2008...
1.Stephen Cluxon
2.Ryan McMenamin
3.Justin McMahon
4.Anthony Lynch
5.Davey Harte
6.Conor Gormley
7.Tomas O'Se
8.Dara O'Se
9.Enda McGinley
10.Brian Dooher
11.Declan O'Sullivan
12.Mattie Forde
13. Gooch
14. Sean Cavanagh
15.Michael Meehan
Why the obsession with Cluxton?
Is he really that far ahead of other keepers that he has to be the default choice?
2b honest i agree wit u, but if u look are other county teams there is just no other outstanding candidate.. McConnell had a great game today but didn play in enug games thou
Quote from: J70 on September 21, 2008, 07:20:19 PM
Why the obsession with Cluxton?
Is he really that far ahead of other keepers that he has to be the default choice?
Agree, clearly default choice/token dub - take your pick
Hard to argue with that but the Cluxton call is ridiculous. Ronan Gallagher should have a major chance in goals.
Tyrone currently have 31 All-Star awards from down the years.
Quote from: Real1995 on September 21, 2008, 07:16:31 PM
So the season has drawn to a close, firstly congratulations to Tyrone, no one can say anything other that they were deserving winners.....So here is mt All Star team for 2008...
1.Stephen Cluxon
2.Ryan McMenamin
3.Justin McMahon
4.Anthony Lynch
5.Davey Harte
6.Conor Gormley
7.Tomas O'Se
8.Dara O'Se
9.Enda McGinley
10.Brian Dooher
11.Declan O'Sullivan
12.Mattie Forde
13. Gooch
14. Sean Cavanagh
15.Michael Meehan
I think its a very open call for all stars this year, only really 4 certs as far a i can see..........
1.Ronan Gallagher
2.Conor Gormley
3.Justin McMahon
4. Ryan McCluskey
5. Davey Harte
6. Aidan O'Mahoney
7. Tomas O'Se
8. Shane Ryan
9. Enda McGinley (Just about shades it)
10. Brian Dooher
11. Redmond Barry
12. Ciaran Lyng
13. Colm Cooper
14. Sean Cavanagh
15. Michael Meehan
Cannot believe that Cluxton has been suggested. We had the same nonsense in the 90s when Neil Collins missed out to O'Leary.
Although there was no outstanding keeper, I would agree that Gallagher is the best of the bunch.
McGinley for me is Player of the Year. Was always a fan but this year he has been outstanding though overshadowed today by Cavanagh
I don't think we would have beaten Tyrone in the Marshes if he had played
Does Matty Forde really deserve an allstart this year? ::)
Quote from: AFS on September 21, 2008, 07:55:26 PM
1. Gallagher - Fermanagh (no outstanding candidate really :-\ )
2. McMenamin - Tyrone (should be in the half back line where he really shone but moved back to make way for O'Se)
3. McMahon - Tyrone
4. Lynch - Cork (not outstanding but there has to be some Cork representation in the team)
5. Harte - Tyrone
6. Gormley - Tyrone (will prob get one here, even though he rarely played this position and wasn't all that great overall this year)
7. O'Se - Kerry (not outstanding but token Kerry back)
8. Cavanagh - Tyrone (in midfield to make way for a few Kerry men in the forward line) POTY
9. McGinley - Tyrone
10. Dooher - Tyrone
11. Barry - Wexford
12. A Brogan - Dublin (token Dub)
13. Cooper - Kerry (again not at his terrific best this year but in to boost Kerry numbers)
14. Walsh - Kerry YPOTY
15. Forde - Wexford
When trying to pick this team it was really striking how few outstanding candidates there were for many of the positions. This in part is probably due to the overall championships being essentially spurred on by a collective effort rather than individual displays, but it must also be said that the overall quality of the championship this year was disappointingly way below average again.
No one should be named at the expense of someone else just to "boost Kerry numbers" or because "there has to be some Cork representation in the team" or as a "token Dub". Players should be selected because they were the best in that position. This quota shite is a load of bollocks every year.
Cavanagh my player of the year.....
Philip Jordan hasnt been mentioned so far which is strange, a massive influence for Tyrone in the All-Ireland series.
Quote from: AFS on September 21, 2008, 08:16:08 PM
I agree but this is the way that the allstars are picked. Cork got to an All Ireland semi final and will have to get at least one for this achievement, even though when you look closely at them they were pretty shit for most of the year apart for the 2 or 3 ten minute patches when they decided to actually try to play a bit of football against Kerry.
It may be the done thing, but it doesn't mean its right. The All Stars should be awards for the best players, not recognition of the teams who got furthest in the championship, with the awards doled out proportionately according to where the teams finished. If teams have to be recognized, then create another set of awards that do so and let the All Star awards do what they are supposed to.
Shouldn't be a single Dub on the team this year . Other than that its wide open
Quote from: FromAFar on September 21, 2008, 08:04:37 PM
Does Matty Forde really deserve an allstart this year? ::)
Yes. Main player for Wexford who got to semi final. Would have a bag full if he played for a better team.
I would not agree with Mattie Forde deserving an All Star this year. Both Redmond Barry and Ciaran Lyng contributed more for Wexford in 2008.
Whatever about Armagh going out at the QF stage, Ronan Clarke was one of the top two forwards in the country this year and must surely (but prob won't) get one.
Quote from: AFS on September 21, 2008, 07:55:26 PM
1. Gallagher - Fermanagh (no outstanding candidate really :-\ )
2. McMenamin - Tyrone (should be in the half back line where he really shone but moved back to make way for O'Se)
3. McMahon - Tyrone
4. Lynch - Cork (not outstanding but there has to be some Cork representation in the team)
5. Harte - Tyrone
6. Gormley - Tyrone (will prob get one here, even though he rarely played this position and wasn't all that great overall this year)
7. O'Se - Kerry (not outstanding but token Kerry back)
8. Cavanagh - Tyrone (in midfield to make way for a few Kerry men in the forward line) POTY
9. McGinley - Tyrone
10. Dooher - Tyrone
11. Barry - Wexford
12. A Brogan - Dublin (token Dub)
13. Cooper - Kerry (again not at his terrific best this year but in to boost Kerry numbers)
14. Walsh - Kerry YPOTY
15. Forde - Wexford
When trying to pick this team it was really striking how few outstanding candidates there were for many of the positions. This in part is probably due to the overall championships being essentially spurred on by a collective effort rather than individual displays, but it must also be said that the overall quality of the championship this year was disappointingly way below average again.
why the obssession with Anthony Lynch never mind Cluxton??
no f**king way shud he get an allstar--ever
QuoteWhen trying to pick this team it was really striking how few outstanding candidates there were for many of the positions. This in part is probably due to the overall championships being essentially spurred on by a collective effort rather than individual displays, but it must also be said that the overall quality of the championship this year was disappointingly way below average again.
Agre with the first half of this statement but not entirely with the second. For sure it was not a vintage year but there were enough good moments and good stories - certainly from mid July on for it to be classed as 'way below average'
That said I could in some respects see a spread of All Stars moreso than in most years. Generally it is the two AIF teams with up to a handful of other 'deserving' cases. This time around the impact of Tyrone's defeat over Kerry will I thinhk be that they will dominate, with a few Kerry gongs and more than the average thrown about elsewhere. Aside from the two finalists, there were the four provincial winners and two great 'stories' (Fermanagh and Wexford), eacxh of whom wil have a some chance of getting a nose in there.
Dealing with the latter two firstly.
For Fermanagh, the absence of any compelling case for goalkeeper among anyone othert than Pascal McConnell and an All Star for one game is probabaly a strech so Ronan Gallaher has to have a real chance.
Reality is there wil have to be a Wexford man and on form it has to be Lyng as he was their form man and he gave Tyrone a riun for their money for a while.
In terms of the provincial champions if Dublin get one it could really only be Shane Ryan as he did dominate Dublin's championship up their day of departure.
Likewise for Armagh, Ronan Clarke could be the only truly national impact star this year. For Cork it is a toss up between Pearce O'Neill, Anthony Lynch and possibly Michael Cussen - Lynch will have less competition. In the west, one could only really make the case for Padraic Joyce (Meehan was brilliant vs Kerry but no so much elksewhere) and even then, he was onloy compeling against Mayo.
For me then, there are only 24 - even that is a stretch in some cases - in the running.
The 15 that I think will emerge as All Stars and the others in contention are (the stretches are in orange)
Ronan Gallaher
Ryan McManamin Justin McMahon Anthony Lynch [Marc O'Se]
Tomas O'Se Conor Gormley Philip Jordan [Davey Harte / Aidan O'Mahoney]
Enda McGinley Shane Ryan [Dara O'Se / Peirce O'Neill / Paul McGrane]
Brian Dooher Colm Cooper Joe McMahon [Declan O'Sullivan / Pierce O'Neill / Padraic Joyce]
Kieran Lyng Sean Cavanagh Ronan Clarke [Kieran Donaghy]
I would argue that the backs are pretty close there. Those four Tyrone lads have to be in there really and there would be a strong shout too for Davy Harte instead of O'Se, as there could be for Aidan O'Mahoney along the half back line or Marc O'Se in the FB line. None of the rest of the Kerry backs went that well this year. I'm not a big Lynch fan to be honest (he's far from the sweet angel painted by media in my observation) but there haven't been any great LFB performers this year - Gourley was a touch off his Tyrone colleagues, Reidy was in and out and none of the FBs of any of the provincial winners really shone while he actually did play well for Cork. I'd buy the possibility of shunting him though in favour of Gormley in the corner to accomodate Davey Harte
In MF, McGinley stands out and I've excluded O'Se on the baisis that he got sent off twice and missed the AI S/F. I know the sendings off rule is gone out of the All Stars but twice in high summer is a bit much. None of Fermanagh, Galway or Wexford had a stand out MF. You could though make the case for any of Dublin's Ryan, Armagh's McGrane or Cork's O'Neill. Of the three, and allowing for the reality that no other Dublin player was as influential as he in the Leinster win, I'd choose Ryan.
Dooher has had a fits and starts year but his influence has risen beyond just his physical contribution (which is still huge) and you couldn't make the case for any other RHF ahead of him. Cooper and Cavanagh were stand out. I think Clarke had his best year ever and was the major reason Armagh won Ulster and Lyng as mentioned was
the man this year for Wexford. I'm plumping for Joe McMahon there in the basis that he was a star in that role in both the Q/F and S/F and was a star again in the Final and deserves to be on this selection, moreso than anyone that replaced him in that forward role on the Tyrone team in the final or any of his opponents (bar Declan O'Sullivan) - either in the final or earlier . Padraic Joyce has a faint shout but I don't honestly think his case exceeds that of any of the others.
One could make the case then for Declan O'Sullivan in the HF line or could move Cavanagh out and put Donagahy in at FF as despite a quiet AIF, he was hugely influential in Kerry getting that far. O'Neill as I mentioned could also slot in there. I've not put in Tommy Walsh as althoughg mercurial and YPOTY IMO, his impact on games owes as much, if not more to his opportunity in the team and forward line that he is part of whereas Lyng and Clarke had more to do off their own bat to be effective, and were.
In total that would be 8 for Tyrone, 2 for Kerry, and one each for Cork, Fermanagh, Dublin, Wexford and Armaghg. That might seen harsh on Kerry but few of their players were good throughoput their campaign whereas that rump of Tyrone lads were effective pretty much every day once they got their engine restarted.
I'll be surprised if Red Barry doesn't pick up an All Star
Quote from: FromAFar on September 21, 2008, 07:47:09 PM
I think its a very open call for all stars this year, only really 4 certs as far a i can see..........
I reckon there are nine certs - McMenamin, Gormley, Jordan, McGinley, Dooher, Cavanagh, Donaghy, Cooper and Clarke.
The rest will be number balancing exercises.
Tyrone also have calls (with varying degrees of validity and justification) for Justin McMahon, Davy Harte, McCullagh and Peter Canavan. A couple of the O'Se bros will be there or thereabouts, as will Declan O'Sullivan, O'Mahony has excluded himself. Shane Ryan is best placed of the Dubs and Redmond Barry should get any call over Lyng and Forde. Gallagher and McCluskey of Fermanagh are worthy of nominations and one award here wouldn't be a great surprise. Cork have a genuine contender in O'Neill. The competition among the forwards is stronger and as such I see either O'Neill or Barry missing out. Unless Ryan is picked at half back.
Gallagher
McMenamin
McNulty
O'Se (very soft one here)
O'Se
Gormley
Jordan
Ryan / O'Neill
McGinley
Dooher
Cooper
Barry
Clarke
Cavanagh
Donaghy
Ronan Gallaher
Ryan McManamin Justin McMahon Marc O'Se
Tomas O'Se Conor Gormley Philip Jordan
Enda McGinley Dara O'Se
Brian Dooher Colm Cooper Declan O'Sullivan
Kieran Lyng Sean Cavanagh Ronan Clarke
I'd say its a toss up between Dooher and Cavanagh for Player of the Year, Tommy walsh will prob get young player of the year
I notice that alot of people are leaving out Michael Meehan here, i thought he gave one of the best performances of the year against kerry....
Quote from: gallsman on September 21, 2008, 09:11:49 PM
Whatever about Armagh going out at the QF stage, Ronan Clarke was one of the top two forwards in the country this year and must surely (but prob won't) get one.
agreed
Quote from: hardstation on September 22, 2008, 04:08:33 PM
Surely Paddy Bradley will slabber his way to one again?
no worse than peter canavans token all star in '05
I cannot understand how anyone could name an allstar team and leave out Donaghy. He is the single most influential player for Kerry imo.
Quote from: Real1995 on September 22, 2008, 04:07:21 PM
I notice that alot of people are leaving out Michael Meehan here, i thought he gave one of the best performances of the year against kerry....
I doubt he'll get one to be honest. It was probably the individual performance of the championship but he probably needed at least one other good display along with it to get an All-Star. He wasn't bad in Connacht but didn't have any really excellent game until he reached Croke Park.
Padraig Joyce in contrast was outstanding in the Connacht championship but had a quiet enough game against Kerry.
Quote from: Bogball XV on September 22, 2008, 04:15:00 PM
I cannot understand how anyone could name an allstar team and leave out Donaghy. He is the single most influential player for Kerry imo.
Not at all. His influence yesterday was minimal and Finian Hanley contained him well enough in the Galway game. Played ok in the 2nd of the 3 Cork games but was fairly quiet in the others. Needs to be the subject of some revisionism IMHO.
Quote from: mouview on September 22, 2008, 04:31:31 PM
Quote from: Bogball XV on September 22, 2008, 04:15:00 PM
I cannot understand how anyone could name an allstar team and leave out Donaghy. He is the single most influential player for Kerry imo.
Not at all. His influence yesterday was minimal and Finian Hanley contained him well enough in the Galway game. Played ok in the 2nd of the 3 Cork games but was fairly quiet in the others. Needs to be the subject of some revisionism IMHO.
Have to agree there. Donaghy was well held in the quarters by Galway and in the final by Tyrone. Had a good semi-final alright but having two quiet games in the last few matches isn't what you'd exactly call All-Star form.
Tut! Tut! No mention of John Doyle, the Championship top scorer...... :o
McMahon seemed to very much mark him from the front. I suppose with Tyrone's system you can be more comfortable with that as you know that if he wins it behind you a load of bodies will descend upon him whereas in true one one one you'd be scuppered so need to be mroe careful.
I still would think Donaghy deserves one. If you look at how much he has set up for Kerry through lay-offs this year you'd probably find it a lot.
O'Mahoney until yesterday looked good for one but he was very poor. He didn't seem to have the same fire in him as in previous games. Also he appeared scared of Kavanagh. He continually stood off him as he looked afraid of getting skinned and that led to giving Kavanagh the space to kick points.
The problem with best teams etc is Wexford have to get one and Cork have to, IMO, with the politics of it. Clarke was immense and should get one,then there'll be two token ones(possibly three depending on who gets the keeper) and the rest will be from Tyrone / Kerry.
Quote from: hardstation on September 22, 2008, 04:08:33 PM
Surely Paddy Bradley will slabber his way to one again?
he should take lessons from you so
No harma lads but gormley had a very poor year capped by a below par performance yesterday.
I would have to say I would say the same. I think there's no way Gormley merits an all star in front of Justin McMahon. Excellent no doubt and perhaps being judged on very high standards he previously set but don't think he merits an all star...
McMahon, Ricey, Davy Harte and Jordan should be the four main contenders in defense from Tyrone. Were one of those four to lose out I'd guess Davy Harte. There wouldn't be much between him and Jordan though.
All star and player of the year by a country mile......... Enda Mc Ginley.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Gary Connaughton of Westmeath for the No. 1 jersey. Great year - very few goals conceded, some brilliant saves, very safe hands and huge kick outs.
Up front I wouldn't give Donaghy an all-star. He had a couple of good games though I felt his influence was overstated. Yesterday though he didn't get a sniff in spite of a huge amount of high ball played into the Kerry full forward line in the first half. Caught one ball in the second which led to a gooch point and that was his total contribution for 70 minutes. Tommy Walsh did a lot more and was unlucky to be taken off. Can't understand people who rate Donaghy above Gooch. IMO not fit to lace the boots on his sweet chocolate feet.
Very good saffron sam.
Peter Canavan - that was funny.
Sorry, I thought you felt my All-Star team was very good. I cut and pasted from my 2005 All-Stars post.
McMenamin, Justin McMahon, Harte, Jordan, McGinley, Dooher and Cavanagh should get one.
Gormley and Joe McMahon may.
I still think Donaghy is Kerry's most important player - he can wreak absolute havoc in any game. Someone was saying that he was quiet against Galway, and whilst Hanley had a good game, Donaghy set up the goal and I presume a few points (but don't remember), you've also got to look at how much attention he draws from opposing defenders, freeing up space for the rest of them.
In the NFL final, Niall McCusker had an excellent game on him, but he still was instrumental in Kerry's 2 goals.
Ronan Gallaher
Ryan McManamin Justin McMahon Marc O'Se
Tomas O'Se Conor Gormley Philip Jordan
Enda McGinley Dara O'Se/Ryan
Brian Dooher Colm Cooper Kieran Lyng
K Donaghy Sean Cavanagh Ronan Clarke
Quote from: Bogball XV on September 22, 2008, 10:26:48 PM
I still think Donaghy is Kerry's most important player - he can wreak absolute havoc in any game. Someone was saying that he was quiet against Galway, and whilst Hanley had a good game, Donaghy set up the goal and I presume a few points (but don't remember), you've also got to look at how much attention he draws from opposing defenders, freeing up space for the rest of them.
In the NFL final, Niall McCusker had an excellent game on him, but he still was instrumental in Kerry's 2 goals.
Give me Gooch any day (even on one leg!). Donaghy can be marked with a bit of planning, Cooper not at all as easily.
So it's all over now -
Young player of the year - Probably Tommy Walsh as Justin has got himself an all star at 3
1. Cluxton
2. Mc Menamin
3. Justin Mc Mahon
4 Lynch
5 Harte
6 Gormely
7 Tomas O'Se
8. Mc Ginley
9. Darragh O'Se
10 Dooher
11 Gooch
12 Lyng
13 Clarke
14 Cavanagh
15 Donaghy
What do you think
Cannot believe most people including TSG experts are going with Lynn over Redmond Barry, same applies to Harte over Justin McMahon.
Quote from: bannside on September 22, 2008, 07:37:40 PM
All star and player of the year by a country mile......... Enda Mc Ginley.
I'll second that, fine fine player...100%, 100% of the time with McGinley
Quote from: longball on September 23, 2008, 09:22:08 AM
Ronan Gallaher
Ryan McManamin Justin McMahon Marc O'Se
Tomas O'Se Conor Gormley Philip Jordan
Enda McGinley Dara O'Se/Ryan
Brian Dooher Colm Cooper Kieran Lyng
K Donaghy Sean Cavanagh Ronan Clarke
James Reilly in for Gallagher (but I'm biased :) )
Definitely Shane Ryan over Dara.
Michael Meehan instead of Lyng or, at a stretch, Ronan Clarke.
Masterson
Ryan McManamin Justin McMahon Marc O'Se
Tomas O'Se Ryan McCloskey Philip Jordan
Enda McGinley Dara O'Se
Brian Dooher Colm Cooper Donncha O'Connor
Sean Cavanagh K Donaghy Ronan Clarke
I was thinking that if Tyrone only got 2 forward All-Stars (Dooher and Cavanagh) it'd be a low total for AI Champions. Not the case. Kerry only had 2 in 97, 01, 04, 06 and 07, Armagh had 2 in 02, Galway had 2 in 01, Meath 2 in 96 and so on. Tyrone had 3 in '03 and 4 in '05 in attack and 3 each time in defence. Possibly 4 in defence this time.
That post was useless.
Only one of our seven All Stars in 1993 was a forward (Enda Gormley).
1. McConnell - Tyrone (No outstanding candidate, give it to the man who stood up on the big day)
2. McMenamin - Tyrone (back to something near his best)
3. Justy McMahon - Tyrone (immense final, my YPOTY, if qualified)
4. Lynch - Cork - (slightly token vote but strong performance this year all the same)
5. Tom O'Se - Kerry (soild year, Just edging out Davy Harte)
6. McCluskey - Fermanagh (would have graced any team this year)
7. Jordan - Tyrone (edges it on his Wexford performance)
8. Darragh O'Se - Kerry (still a master of his craft)
9. McGinley - Tyrone (Tyrone's big performer all year, but will prob lose POTY to the higher profile Big Sean)
10. Dooher - Tyrone (pure class, the indestructable Wee Brian)
11. Barry - Wexford (Not a token pick, classy forward)
12. Declan O' Sullivan - Kerry (Great performances all year, including 1st half in final)
13. Cooper - Kerry - (unmarkable, as Gormley discovered in 1st 20mins of final)
14. Sean Cavanagh - Tyrone (the all-round footballer and will fully deserve POTY)
15. Meehan - Galway (Just edges Clarke on his 1/4 final display)
Tyrone - 7
Kerry - 4
Fermanagh - 1
Wexford - 1
Galway - 1
Cork - 1
Tommy Walsh to get YPOTY if Justy McMahon doesn't meet qualifying criteria (not sure exactly what this is)
Seriousley, how anyone can nominate Cluxton or McConnell for goals is a joke. No outstanding candidates but R.Gallagher has to be favourite at this stage.....solid all year round.
Quote from: uselessfootballer on September 23, 2008, 11:52:12 AM
1. McConnell - Tyrone (No outstanding candidate, give it to the man who stood up on the big day)
2. McMenamin - Tyrone (back to something near his best)
3. Justy McMahon - Tyrone (immense final, my YPOTY, if qualified)
4. Lynch - Cork - (slightly token vote but strong performance this year all the same)
5. Tom O'Se - Kerry (soild year, Just edging out Davy Harte)
6. McCluskey - Fermanagh (would have graced any team this year)
7. Jordan - Tyrone (edges it on his Wexford performance)
8. Darragh O'Se - Kerry (still a master of his craft)
9. McGinley - Tyrone (Tyrone's big performer all year, but will prob lose POTY to the higher profile Big Sean)
10. Dooher - Tyrone (pure class, the indestructable Wee Brian)
11. Barry - Wexford (Not a token pick, classy forward)
12. Declan O' Sullivan - Kerry (Great performances all year, including 1st half in final)
13. Cooper - Kerry - (unmarkable, as Gormley discovered in 1st 20mins of final)
14. Sean Cavanagh - Tyrone (the all-round footballer and will fully deserve POTY)
15. Meehan - Galway (Just edges Clarke on his 1/4 final display)
Tyrone - 7
Kerry - 4
Fermanagh - 1
Wexford - 1
Galway - 1
Cork - 1
Tommy Walsh to get YPOTY if Justy McMahon doesn't meet qualifying criteria (not sure exactly what this is)
what the f**k is the myth about Lynch bein a good f**king player
is it the way his hair bobs like Pat Spillanes or Darren O'Sullivans does when hes makin a run out of defence after bein roasted all day. He is cat. Gaelic games is like Chinese Whispers--someone says so and so is good and then everyone thinks they are--no matter how many years they play 4 or how much the team is bait by its always "Cork deserve an allstar as they got to the semis(beating f**king noone) we'll give them a token one, who will we give it to? em..Canty or Lynch, they are good" same goes for Cluxton---BALLS--what a load of BALLS
Lynch got ROASTED all year and did nothin hwile Cluxton got 3 goals smacked by him by Tyrone--lazy f**king journalism and punditry
All-Ireland football champions Tyrone were further rewarded for their efforts today when ten members of the Red Hand team were nominated for this year's Vodafone-sponsored GAA All-Stars.
In all, 13 counties are represented, with beaten finalists Kerry coming a close second to Tyrone in terms of nominees with nine players nominated.
Wexford, the surprise package of this year's All-Ireland championship have four nominees, along with fellow beaten semi-finalists Cork.
Leinster champions Dublin have just three players nominated compared to seven last year.
Connacht champions Galway, who served up one of the best games of the championship with the Kingdom in their quarter-final clash, have received three nominations, while Ulster champions Armagh have received two.
Cavan, Derry, Kildare, and Monaghan complete the list, with one nomination each.
Last year, twelve counties were represented in the nominations, with champions Kerry receiving ten nominations, the same as this year's winners Tyrone, who had three nominations in 2007.
Seven of last year's All-Stars are nominated for a second consecutive year; Marc O'Sé, Tomas O'Sé, Graham Canty, Aidan O'Mahony, Dara O'Sé, Declan O'Sullivan and Colm Cooper.
Dara O'Sé is looking to equal his uncle Páidí's All-Star haul by being nominated for his fifth award. Colm Cooper is also going for award number five.
The final selection will be announced on 15, October, two days prior to the All-Stars Banquet at the City West Hotel.
The GAA Hurling All-Stars nominees will be announced on Thursday at 11pm.
GAA Football All-Star nominees for 2008:
Goalkeeper
Gary Connaughton (Westmeath)
Anthony Masterson (Wexford)
James Reilly (Cavan)
Full Backs
Francie Bellew (Armagh) All-Star '03
Finian Hanley (Galway)
David Henry (Dublin)
Conor Gormley (Tyrone)
Justin McMahon (Tyrone)
Dessie Mone (Monaghan)
John Keane (Westmeath) All-Star '04
Anthony Lynch (Cork) All-Star '99, '02
Marc O'Se (Kerry) All-Star '06, '07
Half Backs
Graham Canty (Cork) All-Star '07
Michael Ennis (Westmeath)
Davy Harte (Tyrone)
Philip Jordan (Tyrone) All-Star '03, '05
Ryan McMenamin (Tyrone) All-Star '05
Ryan McCluskey (Fermanagh)
Thomas McElroy (Fermanagh)
Aidan O'Mahony (Kerry) All-Star '06, '07
Tomas O'Se (Kerry) All-Star '04, '05. '07
Midfield
Fergal Doherty (Derry)
Enda McGinley (Tyrone)
Martin McGrath (Fermanagh) All-Star '04
Darragh O'Se (Kerry) All-Star '00, '02, '06, '07
Shane Ryan (Dublin)
Seamus Scanlon (Kerry)
Half Forwards
Redmond Barry (Wexford)
John Doyle (Kildare)
Sean Cavanagh (Tyrone) All-Star '03, '04, '05
Michael Cussen (Cork)
Pearse O'Neill (Cork)
Brian Dooher (Tyrone) All-Star '03, '05
Colm McCullough (Tyrone)
Padraic Joyce (Galway) All-Star '98, '00, '01
Declan O'Sullivan (Kerry) All-Star '07
Full Forwards
Alan Brogan (Dublin) All-Star '06, '07
Ronan Clarke (Armagh) All-Star '06
Colm Cooper (Kerry) All-Star '02, '04, '05, '07
Kieran Donaghy (Kerry) All-Star '06
Tommy Walsh (Kerry)
Matty Forde (Wexford) All-Star '04
Ciaran Lyng (Wexford)
Tommy McGuigan (Tyrone)
Michael Meehan (Galway)
source: rte.ie
Ronan Gallagher didn't even get a nomination then, very harsh.
If selections are based on adherence to the group they are nominated in, heres my stab
Goalkeeper
Anthony Masterson (Wexford)
Full Backs
Conor Gormley (Tyrone)
Justin McMahon (Tyrone)
Marc O'Se (Kerry) All-Star '06, '07
Half Backs
Davy Harte (Tyrone)
Ryan McMenamin (Tyrone) All-Star '05
Tomas O'Se (Kerry) All-Star '04, '05. '07
Midfield
Enda McGinley (Tyrone)
Darragh O'Se (Kerry) All-Star '00, '02, '06, '07
Half Forwards
John Doyle (Kildare)
Sean Cavanagh (Tyrone) All-Star '03, '04, '05
Brian Dooher (Tyrone) All-Star '03, '05
Full Forwards
Ronan Clarke (Armagh) All-Star '06
Colm Cooper (Kerry) All-Star '02, '04, '05, '07
Ciaran Lyng (Wexford)
If I were Gallagher I'd be disgusted - Reilly is a great keeper, but he didn't show that this year, and I can't see how the media could have seen any of his displays.
Other than it's the normal nonsense, I don't know why people bother getting upset about them anymore.
I think Tyrone'll take the entire HB line.
Mmmm - what if I set up a paypal for this.
A tenner a go.
Correct All-Star = 2 pts
Correct All-Star in position selected = 3 pts (can be bit of lottery)
POTY = 5 pts
YPOTY = 5 pts
Quote from: 45GoneShort on September 24, 2008, 11:11:28 PM
All-Ireland football champions Tyrone were further rewarded for their efforts today when ten members of the Red Hand team were nominated for this year's Vodafone-sponsored GAA All-Stars.
In all, 13 counties are represented, with beaten finalists Kerry coming a close second to Tyrone in terms of nominees with nine players nominated.
Wexford, the surprise package of this year's All-Ireland championship have four nominees, along with fellow beaten semi-finalists Cork.
Leinster champions Dublin have just three players nominated compared to seven last year.
Connacht champions Galway, who served up one of the best games of the championship with the Kingdom in their quarter-final clash, have received three nominations, while Ulster champions Armagh have received two.
Cavan, Derry, Kildare, and Monaghan complete the list, with one nomination each.
Last year, twelve counties were represented in the nominations, with champions Kerry receiving ten nominations, the same as this year's winners Tyrone, who had three nominations in 2007.
Seven of last year's All-Stars are nominated for a second consecutive year; Marc O'Sé, Tomas O'Sé, Graham Canty, Aidan O'Mahony, Dara O'Sé, Declan O'Sullivan and Colm Cooper.
Dara O'Sé is looking to equal his uncle Páidí's All-Star haul by being nominated for his fifth award. Colm Cooper is also going for award number five.
The final selection will be announced on 15, October, two days prior to the All-Stars Banquet at the City West Hotel.
The GAA Hurling All-Stars nominees will be announced on Thursday at 11pm.
GAA Football All-Star nominees for 2008:
Goalkeeper
Gary Connaughton (Westmeath)
Anthony Masterson (Wexford)
James Reilly (Cavan)
Full Backs
Francie Bellew (Armagh) All-Star '03
Finian Hanley (Galway)
David Henry (Dublin)
Conor Gormley (Tyrone)
Justin McMahon (Tyrone)
Dessie Mone (Monaghan)
John Keane (Westmeath) All-Star '04
Anthony Lynch (Cork) All-Star '99, '02
Marc O'Se (Kerry) All-Star '06, '07
Half Backs
Graham Canty (Cork) All-Star '07
Michael Ennis (Westmeath)
Davy Harte (Tyrone)
Philip Jordan (Tyrone) All-Star '03, '05
Ryan McMenamin (Tyrone) All-Star '05
Ryan McCluskey (Fermanagh)
Thomas McElroy (Fermanagh)
Aidan O'Mahony (Kerry) All-Star '06, '07
Tomas O'Se (Kerry) All-Star '04, '05. '07
Midfield
Fergal Doherty (Derry)
Enda McGinley (Tyrone)
Martin McGrath (Fermanagh) All-Star '04
Darragh O'Se (Kerry) All-Star '00, '02, '06, '07
Shane Ryan (Dublin)
Seamus Scanlon (Kerry)
Half Forwards
Redmond Barry (Wexford)
John Doyle (Kildare)
Sean Cavanagh (Tyrone) All-Star '03, '04, '05
Michael Cussen (Cork)
Pearse O'Neill (Cork)
Brian Dooher (Tyrone) All-Star '03, '05
Colm McCullough (Tyrone)
Padraic Joyce (Galway) All-Star '98, '00, '01
Declan O'Sullivan (Kerry) All-Star '07
Full Forwards
Alan Brogan (Dublin) All-Star '06, '07
Ronan Clarke (Armagh) All-Star '06
Colm Cooper (Kerry) All-Star '02, '04, '05, '07
Kieran Donaghy (Kerry) All-Star '06
Tommy Walsh (Kerry)
Matty Forde (Wexford) All-Star '04
Ciaran Lyng (Wexford)
Tommy McGuigan (Tyrone)
Michael Meehan (Galway)
Small amendment, Conor Gormley won an All Star in 03 and 05 at RHB and CHB respectively
Sorry posted that wrong there!
Conor Gormley won all stars in 03 and 05 at RHB and CHB resepectively
Here's my go:
Masterson
McMahon, O'Sé, Gormley
Harte McCluskey Jordan
McGinley and a toss up between Doherty and McGrath, Doherty because Fermanagh already got CHB
Dooher, Cavanagh, Joyce
Lyng, Cooper, Clarke
Wexford 2
Tyrone 7
Kerry 2
Derry 1
Galway 1
Fermanagh 1
Armagh 1
Will Ryan get the other MF beth after McGinley or do Cork deserve one? It will be an interesting call but I'd say I'm not too far wrong.The only reason Wexford get 2 i because there is no standout keeper this year!
Quote from: Bogball XV on September 24, 2008, 11:24:19 PM
If I were Gallagher I'd be disgusted - Reilly is a great keeper, but he didn't show that this year, and I can't see how the media could have seen any of his displays.
Other than it's the normal nonsense, I don't know why people bother getting upset about them anymore.
The absence of Gallagher is a joke. He may not have won it but he definitely deserved a nomination.
How is Joey McMahon missing on the nomination list?
Quote from: SidelineKick on September 22, 2008, 04:14:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 22, 2008, 04:08:33 PM
Surely Paddy Bradley will slabber his way to one again?
no worse than peter canavans token all star in '05
You're right there Sideline. Paddy's goal and point in this year All-Ireland final were sublime.
For the lads talking about R. Barry of Wexford, he had some good games but did he even touch the ball in the semi-final?
Justy McM has to be YPOTY. The other option, Walsh, while excellent, will be a sop to the Kerry laden media, and what's with this shite about him 'tiring' on the 50 minute mark? Isn't he 20 years old?
Can't understand why big Sean Cav is not nominated in the FF line?
Also Joey McMahon more than most is being penalised for his flexibility - at home in the backs, midfield or forwards - done a great job in all three areas for Tyrone this year.
From a Dublin point of view, I think Henry is the most deserving. Kept Forde in his pocket in the Leinster Final.
But,as was already said, it might only be a 'token Dub' if he got one.
I would be a fan of Francie Bellew but the last 10 in the Wexford game should have scuppered any chances of him receiving a nomination.
Quote from: redhandluke on September 25, 2008, 02:15:42 AM
Can't understand why big Sean Cav is not nominated in the FF line?
Also Joey McMahon more than most is being penalised for his flexibility - at home in the backs, midfield or forwards - done a great job in all three areas for Tyrone this year.
Or why McMenamin is nominated in the half back line.
The All-Stars system has long since lost any creditibilty it may once have had.
Goalkeeper
Gary Connaughton (Westmeath)
Anthony Masterson (Wexford)
James Reilly (Cavan)
Full Backs
Francie Bellew (Armagh) All-Star '03
Finian Hanley (Galway)
David Henry (Dublin)
Conor Gormley (Tyrone)
Justin McMahon (Tyrone)
Dessie Mone (Monaghan)
John Keane (Westmeath) All-Star '04
Anthony Lynch (Cork) All-Star '99, '02
Marc O'Se (Kerry) All-Star '06, '07
Half Backs
Graham Canty (Cork) All-Star '07
Michael Ennis (Westmeath)
Davy Harte (Tyrone)
Philip Jordan (Tyrone) All-Star '03, '05
Ryan McMenamin (Tyrone) All-Star '05
Ryan McCluskey (Fermanagh)
Thomas McElroy (Fermanagh)
Aidan O'Mahony (Kerry) All-Star '06, '07
Tomas O'Se (Kerry) All-Star '04, '05. '07
Midfield
Fergal Doherty (Derry)
Enda McGinley (Tyrone)
Martin McGrath (Fermanagh) All-Star '04
Darragh O'Se (Kerry) All-Star '00, '02, '06, '07
Shane Ryan (Dublin)
Seamus Scanlon (Kerry)
Half Forwards
Redmond Barry (Wexford)
John Doyle (Kildare)
Sean Cavanagh (Tyrone) All-Star '03, '04, '05
Michael Cussen (Cork)
Pearse O'Neill (Cork)
Brian Dooher (Tyrone) All-Star '03, '05
Colm McCullough (Tyrone)
Padraic Joyce (Galway) All-Star '98, '00, '01
Declan O'Sullivan (Kerry) All-Star '07
Full Forwards
Alan Brogan (Dublin) All-Star '06, '07
Ronan Clarke (Armagh) All-Star '06
Colm Cooper (Kerry) All-Star '02, '04, '05, '07
Kieran Donaghy (Kerry) All-Star '06
Tommy Walsh (Kerry)
Matty Forde (Wexford) All-Star '04
Ciaran Lyng (Wexford)
Tommy McGuigan (Tyrone)
Michael Meehan (Galway)
Quote from: nrico2006 on September 25, 2008, 08:59:48 AM
I would be a fan of Francie Bellwe but the last 10 in the Wexford game should have scuppered any chances of him receiving a nomination.
Ryan Mc Menamin, Marc O'Se, Aidan O'Mahony, Anthony Lynch, Dessie Mone, Conor Gormley etc have all had very uncomfortable moments that lasted more than 10 minutes during matches this summer so it should not preclude Francie from getting a nomination.
One thing for me is the omission of Damien Freeman. I've watched him destroy Derry now 2 years in a row and he is a fantastic footballer. He has also been one of Monaghan's best players in recent times yet he doesn't seem to get the recognition he deserves from most of the media (although I think he got an Irish News Ulster Allstar this year). Had he been nominated he would have been the other HB along with Harte and Jordan for me!
Good to see us getting some recognition for our year, must be a record though for a team who didn't make it past the semi-finals of their provincial championship or the second round of the qualifiers. No great surprise to see the defence get the nominations, although Flan would surely have been there as well if he hadn't been injured. Glennon up front probably had his best year yet and can't have been too far away either. Doubt if any of them will get the All-Star but they'd be my back up choice in each line (if that's how they decide to award them).
Masterson (Just because Wexford reached the semi) /Connaughton
Gormley, McMahon, Lynch /Keane
Jordan, McMenamin, O'Sé /Ennis
McGinley, McGrath /Ryan
Cavanagh, Dooher, O'Sullivan /Barry
Clarke, Cooper, Donaghy /Lyng
The best corner back performance of the year was John Keane v Dublin. Alan Brogan could barely breathe. Don't think Westmeath got far enough for him to get an all star though...
For me the certs are:
McMahon,Tomas O'Se,Jordan, Cavanagh, McGinley, Doooher, Cooper, O'Sullivan
Probables:
Donaghy, Gormlley, McMenamim, Clarke
Up for grabs:
goalie, MF, corner back
O'Reilly was excellent this year.
Ok for waht it's worth here's mine.
Devine
Joe McMahon, Justin McM, Ricey
Davey Harte, Gormley, Jordan
Enda McGinley, Dara O Se (sentimental)
Dooher, B McGuigan, Lyng
McCullough, Cavanagh, T McGuigan
Ever so slightly biased there overthebar
And not even related to the nominations :D
Goalkeeper
Gary Connaughton (Westmeath)
Anthony Masterson (Wexford)
James Reilly (Cavan)
Full Backs
Francie Bellew (Armagh) All-Star '03
Finian Hanley (Galway)
David Henry (Dublin)
Conor Gormley (Tyrone)
Justin McMahon (Tyrone)
Dessie Mone (Monaghan)
John Keane (Westmeath) All-Star '04
Anthony Lynch (Cork) All-Star '99, '02
Marc O'Se (Kerry) All-Star '06, '07
Half Backs
Graham Canty (Cork) All-Star '07
Michael Ennis (Westmeath)
Davy Harte (Tyrone)
Philip Jordan (Tyrone) All-Star '03, '05
Ryan McMenamin (Tyrone) All-Star '05
Ryan McCluskey (Fermanagh)
Thomas McElroy (Fermanagh)
Aidan O'Mahony (Kerry) All-Star '06, '07
Tomas O'Se (Kerry) All-Star '04, '05. '07
Midfield
Fergal Doherty (Derry)
Enda McGinley (Tyrone)
Martin McGrath (Fermanagh) All-Star '04
Darragh O'Se (Kerry) All-Star '00, '02, '06, '07
Shane Ryan (Dublin)
Seamus Scanlon (Kerry)
Half Forwards
Redmond Barry (Wexford)
John Doyle (Kildare)
Sean Cavanagh (Tyrone) All-Star '03, '04, '05 - Player of the Year
Michael Cussen (Cork)
Pearse O'Neill (Cork)
Brian Dooher (Tyrone) All-Star '03, '05
Colm McCullough (Tyrone)
Padraic Joyce (Galway) All-Star '98, '00, '01
Declan O'Sullivan (Kerry) All-Star '07
Full Forwards
Alan Brogan (Dublin) All-Star '06, '07
Ronan Clarke (Armagh) All-Star '06
Colm Cooper (Kerry) All-Star '02, '04, '05, '07
Kieran Donaghy (Kerry) All-Star '06
Tommy Walsh (Kerry)
Matty Forde (Wexford) All-Star '04
Ciaran Lyng (Wexford)
Tommy McGuigan (Tyrone)
Michael Meehan (Galway)
My guess on who'll get them is in bold. Anyone think the forward nominations were rigged to ensure Matty Forde gets one? Cavanagh and Cussen in the half forward line?
OK joking aside, here's my shout. Can't beleive Joe McMahon dint get a nomination btw. Thats what you get for being versatile I suppose.
GOALKEEPER
Gary Connaughton (Westmeath)
Anthony Masterson (Wexford)
James Reilly (Cavan)
FULL BACKS
Francie Bellew (Armagh) All Star '03
Shane Goan (Fermanagh)
Finian Hanley (Galway)
David Henry (Dublin)
Conor Gormley (Tyrone) All Star '03, '05
Justin McMahon (Tyrone)
John Keane (Westmeath) All Star '04
Anthony Lynch (Cork) All Star '99, '02
Marc Ó Sé (Kerry) All Star '06, '07
HALF BACKS
Graham Canty (Cork) All Star '07
Michael Ennis (Westmeath)
Davy Harte (Tyrone)
Philip Jordan (Tyrone) All Star '03, '05
Ryan McMenamin (Tyrone) All Star '05
Ryan McCluskey (Fermanagh)
Thomas McElroy (Fermanagh)
Aidan O'Mahony (Kerry) All Star '06, '07
Tomás Ó Sé (Kerry) All Star '04, '05. '07
MIDFIELD
Fergal Doherty (Derry)
Enda McGinley (Tyrone)
Martin McGrath (Fermanagh) All Star '04
Darragh Ó Sé (Kerry) All Star '00, '02, '06, '07
Shane Ryan (Dublin)
Séamus Scanlon (Kerry)
HALF FORWARDS
Redmond Barry (Wexford)
John Doyle (Kildare)
Seán Cavanagh (Tyrone) All Star '03, '04, '05 Michael Cussen (Cork)
Pearse O'Neill (Cork)
Brian Dooher (Tyrone) All Star '03, '05
Colm McCullagh (Tyrone)
Padraic Joyce (Galway) All Star '98, '00, '01
Declan O'Sullivan (Kerry) All Star '07
FULL FORWARDS
Alan Brogan (Dublin) All Star '06, '07
Ronan Clarke (Armagh) All Star '06
Colm Cooper (Kerry) All Star '02, '04, '05, '07
Kieran Donaghy (Kerry) All Star '06
Tommy Walsh (Kerry)
Matty Forde (Wexford) All Star '04
Ciarán Lyng (Wexford)
Tommy McGuigan (Tyrone)
Michael Meehan (Galway)
Joey McMahon has suffered as tony mcentee did in 2003. where would you nominate him? he had agreat day at half forward against dublin and a god day at corner back on sunday. the rest was mediocre?
gallagher probably merited a nomination but certainly no more. james reilly? are they having a laugh?
francie? WTF?
these teams are for the most part picked at this stage so the nomination of cavanagh as a half forward means that meehan or lyng are getting the corner forward slot.
McCloskey is the only credible fermanagh nomination. tommy McElroy shouldn't be within an asses roar and McGrath, fine footballer though he is, is a sympathy vote.
i don't get the shane ryan preoccupation.
Dessie mone is obviously throwing monaghan a bone too.
Alan Brogan? for what?
lads maybe i am wrong and biased but did Fergal Doherty micheal ennis and gramham canty do more is thhe championship this year and Dan Gordon and Aidan Carr??????
i could be wrong about Carr but def think i have a point about Gordon.
Carr kicked 24 points i think that in itself is worth something?
Marc O 'Se - had a few very uncomfortable days
Marty Mc Grath - decent year, but not an All Star nominee (he got the Irish News POTY as well, so maybe I am missing something)
Mc Cullough & Cavanagh in the HF line??
In the FF line McCullough is more deserving of one than Donaghy.
I agree, and Clarke is more deserving of one than mc cullough
Could those o are picking reilly as the keeper justify their selction?
Can someone also refresh my memory, Michael Meehan had a great game against Kerry, what else? surely an Allstar cannot be based on one game, maybe he did have a few great games but none spring to mind, i thought joyce was more consistent
Quote from: its me again on September 25, 2008, 10:23:22 AM
lads maybe i am wrong and biased but did Fergal Doherty micheal ennis and gramham canty do more is thhe championship this year and Dan Gordon and Aidan Carr??????
i could be wrong about Carr but def think i have a point about Gordon.
Carr kicked 24 points i think that in itself is worth something?
I'll give you Dan Gordon because I think he's class but did Aidan Carr not have to kick the same number of wides to get his 24 points? It used to be that the National League Champions got recognised on the All Star team and I don't think this should change and that Fergal Doherty is without doubt the standout candidate on that shortlist of Midfielders along with McGinley... hell one year Derry got 3 All Stars for a National League!
Quote from: The GAA on September 25, 2008, 10:33:31 AM
Could those o are picking reilly as the keeper justify their selction?
The nomination of James is a bit of a shock but he is the best goalie in Ireland as far as I am concerned. Now, he had a very good league but I suppose Cavan early exit from the championship did him no favours. Aren't the all stars supposed to reflect the entire year as opposed to just the championship. I mean, Tyrone had a poor league and poor early run in the championship so maybe there is a case for them not getting so many all stars. To be honest, the whole all star thing is a load of shite every year.
Maybe I am a bit biased, but Dan Gordon was the best midfielder in Ireland in 2009. He has been playing since January and had star performances in the vast majority of his games. He dominated midfield in both games against Tyrone, also against armagh when everyone was talking up McGrane after his performance against Cavan. He was outstanding in the qualifiers right up to the game against Wexford, where after a hectic week off the field he, like the rest of the team failed to perform. His performane against Tyrone was worthy of an All Star, but the TV cameras weren't there that night. I am sure every player nominated had at least one below par performance in the championship, but they still get their nominations and in a lot of cases all stars will be handed out on performances in September and September only. At the very least Dan deserved a nomination and must feel very aggrieved.
Quote from: Down Gael on September 25, 2008, 11:41:07 AM
Maybe I am a bit biased but Dan Gordon was the best midfielder in Ireland in 2009. He has been playing since January and had star performances in the vast majority of his games. He dominated midfield in both games against Tyrone, also against armagh when everyone was talking up McGrane after his performance against Cavan. He was outstanding in the qualifiers right up to the game against Kerry, where after a hectic week off the field he, like the rest of the team failed to perform. His performane against Tyrone was worthy of an All Star, but the TV cameras weren't there that night. I am sure every player nominated had at least one below par performance in the championship, but they still get their nominations and in a lot of cases all stars will be handed out on performances in September and September only. At the very least Dan deserved a nomination and must feel very aggrieved.
Yes, you are biased
Gordon did play well, but on many occasions he played well against players that wouldnt be considered the best in their county. How many counties had their best players out playing in January?
When it came to the business end of the c'ship, IMHO he was out-played.
A nomination, perhaps, but not near the best midfielder in Ireland in 2008
QuoteTo be honest, the whole all star thing is a load of shite every year.
Michael O'Muirheartaigh could not have put that any better myles!
Fact is tho' you are right. The all-stars began to lose credibilty once players were nominated in positions they had never played just to make sure they got the award. 3 of the greatest jokes of the last few years were:
(a) Peter Canavan at CHF 2005
(b) Brian McGuigan losing out in 2005 as a result of (a) despite perfomances that warranted player of the year.
(c) Paddy Bradley in 2007 a mediocre year for him yet got an AS just because he'd never had one and was overlooked in previous more deserving years.
He dominated in both games against Tyrone, yet Tyrone have a nomination at midfield, he cleaned out McGrane, though Armagh won the game. In the qualifiers he was outstanding until the defeat by Wexford. I think he deserves at least a nomination.
Quote from: Down Gael on September 25, 2008, 11:56:39 AM
He dominated in both games against Tyrone, yet Tyrone have a nomination at midfield, he cleaned out McGrane, though Armagh won the game. In the qualifiers he was outstanding until the defeat by Wexford. I think he deserves at least a nomination.
You have to remember Enda McGinlay went off after ten minutes in Omagh and didnt make the replay in Newry - McGinlay has had an excellent championship and is the best number 8 or 9 in Ireland at the moment.
Forgot about that, still doesnt take away from the fact that Gordon was magnificent this year and deserving of at least a nomination.
Quote from: Down Gael on September 25, 2008, 11:56:39 AM
I think he deserves at least a nomination.
As I said, maybe a nomination but he isnt the best midfielder in Ireland (I take it you meant 2008 & you arent predicting the future ;)
Quote from: Down Gael on September 25, 2008, 11:56:39 AM
He dominated in both games against Tyrone, yet Tyrone have a nomination at midfield, he cleaned out McGrane, though Armagh won the game. In the qualifiers he was outstanding until the defeat by Wexford. I think he deserves at least a nomination.
according to the irish news....
From the nominees released today, my Allstar team would be
Goalkeeper
Anthony Masterson (Wexford)
Full-Backs
Conor Gormley (Tyrone) All Star '03, '05
Justin McMahon (Tyrone)
Marc Ó Sé (Kerry) All Star '06, '07
Half-Backs
Davy Harte (Tyrone)
Philip Jordan (Tyrone) All Star '03, '05
Ryan McMenamin (Tyrone) All Star '05
Midfield
Enda McGinley (Tyrone)
Darragh Ó Sé (Kerry) All Star '00, '02, '06, '07
Half-Forwards
Redmond Barry (Wexford)
Sean Cavanagh (Tyrone) All Star '03, '04, '05
Padraic Joyce (Galway) All Star '98, '00, '01
Full-Forwards
Ronan Clarke (Armagh) All Star '06
Tommy Walsh (Kerry)
Ciaran Lyng (Wexford)
Quote from: BerfArmagh on September 25, 2008, 12:10:18 PM
From the nominees released today, my Allstar team would be
Goalkeeper
Anthony Masterson (Wexford)
Full-Backs
Conor Gormley (Tyrone) All Star '03, '05
Justin McMahon (Tyrone)
Marc Ó Sé (Kerry) All Star '06, '07
Half-Backs
Davy Harte (Tyrone)
Philip Jordan (Tyrone) All Star '03, '05
Ryan McMenamin (Tyrone) All Star '05
Midfield
Enda McGinley (Tyrone)
Darragh Ó Sé (Kerry) All Star '00, '02, '06, '07
Half-Forwards
Redmond Barry (Wexford)
Sean Cavanagh (Tyrone) All Star '03, '04, '05
Padraic Joyce (Galway) All Star '98, '00, '01
Full-Forwards
Ronan Clarke (Armagh) All Star '06
Tommy Walsh (Kerry)
Ciaran Lyng (Wexford)
Same as yourself, only Dooher to replace Joyce.
Quote from: BerfArmagh on September 25, 2008, 12:10:18 PM
From the nominees released today, my Allstar team would be
Goalkeeper
Anthony Masterson (Wexford)
Full-Backs
Conor Gormley (Tyrone) All Star '03, '05
Justin McMahon (Tyrone)
Marc Ó Sé (Kerry) All Star '06, '07
Half-Backs
Davy Harte (Tyrone)
Philip Jordan (Tyrone) All Star '03, '05
Ryan McMenamin (Tyrone) All Star '05
Midfield
Enda McGinley (Tyrone)
Darragh Ó Sé (Kerry) All Star '00, '02, '06, '07
Half-Forwards
Redmond Barry (Wexford)
Sean Cavanagh (Tyrone) All Star '03, '04, '05
Padraic Joyce (Galway) All Star '98, '00, '01
Full-Forwards
Ronan Clarke (Armagh) All Star '06
Tommy Walsh (Kerry)
Ciaran Lyng (Wexford)
Would you seriously have Tommy Walsh instead of the Gooch & no Dooher??
Marc O'Sé lads? I think Marc O'Sé has had a poor year by his standards.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 25, 2008, 11:40:30 AM
Quote from: The GAA on September 25, 2008, 10:33:31 AM
Could those o are picking reilly as the keeper justify their selction?
The nomination of James is a bit of a shock but he is the best goalie in Ireland as far as I am concerned. Now, he had a very good league but I suppose Cavan early exit from the championship did him no favours. Aren't the all stars supposed to reflect the entire year as opposed to just the championship. I mean, Tyrone had a poor league and poor early run in the championship so maybe there is a case for them not getting so many all stars. To be honest, the whole all star thing is a load of shite every year.
I think this year's nominations are much worse than normal, I don't want to start with the sour grapes, but one nomination for the league champions? It's only nominations ffs, couldn't they have threw us 3/4?
I agree with you re Reilly, but he shouldn't have been nominated this year, I don't remember Masterson making many decent stops this year, is in for his kick outs against Armagh? It had to be Gallagher as imo no other keeper had as much of a positive influence in games he played in.
Quote from: redhandluke on September 25, 2008, 02:15:42 AM
Can't understand why big Sean Cav is not nominated in the FF line?
Also Joey McMahon more than most is being penalised for his flexibility - at home in the backs, midfield or forwards - done a great job in all three areas for Tyrone this year.
its accomodating the Gooch and star.. Clarke will join them in the full forward line, The team is picked already!!!!
Francie Bellew???????????????????? Mc Keever was Armagh's best defender this year... Francie was hardly staedy against Fermangh in both games, there is some strange decisions!!!
Tomas O'Se has to get one for me.
Marc O'Se had a poor year by his standards but his standards are very high and he was still a lot better than most defenders out there. I still don't think he'll get one though.
Reilly shouldn't have got a nomination.
Gordon probably should have got one but was undone by playing poorly in croke park.
Anyone who thinks Gooch won't get one well I'd be willing to bet a lot of money on that...
Is the All-Stars not only for the Championship, ie not the League, etc..?
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 25, 2008, 11:53:29 AM
QuoteTo be honest, the whole all star thing is a load of shite every year.
Michael O'Muirheartaigh could not have put that any better myles!
Fact is tho' you are right. The all-stars began to lose credibilty once players were nominated in positions they had never played just to make sure they got the award. 3 of the greatest jokes of the last few years were:
(a) Peter Canavan at CHF 2005
(b) Brian McGuigan losing out in 2005 as a result of (a) despite perfomances that warranted player of the year.
(c) Paddy Bradley in 2007 a mediocre year for him yet got an AS just because he'd never had one and was overlooked in previous more deserving years.
Paddy Bradley scored 1-25 in 2007 from 5 games. 4th top scorer in Ireland, 3 ponts off the 2nd placed player. Mediocre?
Not mediocre but the top scorer this year isn't gonna get an All-Star...
Maybe not, but I think it's unfair to say Bradley didn't deserve an All Star based on 2007's performances.
Quote from: ziggysego on September 25, 2008, 12:56:03 PM
Is the All-Stars not only for the Championship, ie not the League, etc..?
I suppose you think football only started in 2003 as well.
QuoteMaybe I am a bit biased but Dan Gordon was the best midfielder in Ireland in 2009. He has been playing since January and had star performances in the vast majority of his games. He dominated midfield in both games against Tyrone, also against armagh when everyone was talking up McGrane after his performance against Cavan. He was outstanding in the qualifiers right up to the game against Kerry, where after a hectic week off the field he, like the rest of the team failed to perform.
Dan Gordon had a good game the first day out against Tyrone, but he wasn't brilliant the second day. When did he play against Kerry?
Do lads not believe Meehan deserves one? His game against Kerry was one of the performances, if not the performance of the year
Yeah, but it was just one performance. Padraig Joyce was the man for Galway in Connacht. Meehan was quiet enough in until the Kerry game.
It was one performance, one game, the allstars are supposed to be assessed over a season
If one great performance was worth an Allstar then big Pascal would be in there, but one game isn't/shouldn't be enough.
Advice to Joe McMahon ;D
1994 there were 14 Down Players nominated, Eamonn Burns was missing off the list - a Dublin Journalist rang him numerous times that day to get his thoughts on being left out - Burns asked him "did John O'Leary get a nomination", the reply was "yes", Burns then asked the journalist to "ring John O'Leary and ask him what he would rather have an All Star Nomination or an All Ireland Medal"! and hung up.
Quote from: liihb on September 25, 2008, 02:12:25 PM
Do lads not believe Meehan deserves one? His game against Kerry was one of the performances, if not the performance of the year
It probably was but he was only alright in Connacht. Not sure that'll be enough for him.
That said you often get players getting All-Stars on the back of two good displays all Summer (and it'll probably happen this year again). Or even one good display in the final.
Quote from: ziggysego on September 25, 2008, 12:56:03 PM
Is the All-Stars not only for the Championship, ie not the League, etc..?
used to be for both, judging by this years nominations it's for the league final although the losers got way more nominees than the winners ;) and championship, but not actually for winning provincial honours.
I seen James Reilly and Ronan Gallagher playing last night and I wasn't overly impressed by either. Paul Hearty was the best goalie on view.
Quote from: nrico2006 on September 25, 2008, 02:11:20 PM
Dan Gordon had a good game the first day out against Tyrone, but he wasn't brilliant the second day. When did he play against Kerry?
That should have said Wexford.
From UTV: McMahon's brother Justin is one of five defendants who made the nominations.
Jesus lads, how did yous earn the nominations?
Cavanagh's selection at HF is the right one. He was rarely an out-and-out FF for long in every game yet never a traditional MFielder when moved out. Most of his good work (and scores) came from half forward. Ricey the same - he played in the HB line for the majority of the business end of the championship.
Does anybody know who is on the all star selection committee. I'm pretty sure it is a selection of journalists.
Some of the nominations and selections every year are crazy.
Its little wonder when you have people like Marty Morrissey and Ger Canning picking names.
Also, who decides who is onthe committee?
How is Clarke such a cert and Meehan not?? Was there that great a difference in their respective provincial displays? Clarke played against marginally better opposition but Meehan's performance against Kerry far outweighed that. Meehan played well in all his Connaught games, and i include the Mayo game albeit only scoring 1 point from play. Are people comparing his Kerry display to his Connaught ones rather than comparing them to the likes of Clarke, Forde, Gooch, etc.??
Quote from: belleaqua on September 25, 2008, 04:37:59 PM
How is Clarke such a cert and Meehan not?? Was there that great a difference in their respective provincial displays?
Yes, yes there was.
Quote from: belleaqua on September 25, 2008, 04:37:59 PM
How is Clarke such a cert and Meehan not?? Was there that great a difference in their respective provincial displays? Clarke played against marginally better opposition but Meehan's performance against Kerry far outweighed that. Meehan played well in all his Connaught games, and i include the Mayo game albeit only scoring 1 point from play. Are people comparing his Kerry display to his Connaught ones rather than comparing them to the likes of Clarke, Forde, Gooch, etc.??
For what it's worth I don't think either of them will get an All-Star.
Although I agree that Meehan actually played fairly well in Connacht bar maybe the Roscommon game. Only scored 0-1 from play in the Connacht final but won nearly every ball sent into him and laid it off for a host of scores.
Ronan Gallagher should have got at least an All Star nomination this year, Jason Reilly???? no offence Jason I'm sure your a lovely guy but WTF. as for the other ones well I'll say nothing. no I'm not being biased at all. not that it matters, but all the sports writers had Ronan as their number one Keeper this year in Ulster (Irish News that is)
he pulled off save after save. two penalties and a string of other saves great distribution and played well in the Leagues games also. who picks these teams?
Straight question folks (and apologies if it has been asked elsewhere in this thread): if you were picking a team of the 15 best team players in 2008, could you possibly omit Joe Mc Mahon? FFS He'll do whatever job you ask of him, be it as a defender, midfielder, or forward? Ludicrous.
The GAA have just handed the GPA a masterstroke of positive publicity.
In fairness where do you put Joe?
While there are few all round better players - there are people who performed better in all 15 spots more consistently throughout the year.
Im a big Joe McMahon fan - but for the purposes of all stars - his versatililty is his downfall. :-\
Joe maybe should have had a nomination but I wouldn't think he was in the running for an actual gong.
I was thinking yesterday that Harte-Ricey-Jordan would clean up at HB. The only other half back line to achieve that was 1993 - Johnny McGurk, Henry Downey, Gary Coleman.
With Gormley being named in the fullback section - do the allstars have to be selected from the section in which they were nominated?
Strange selections with Cavanagh being nominated at half forward too - Id have thought either mid field or the fullforward line would have been his nomination.
Quote from: Puckoon on September 25, 2008, 07:10:04 PM
Im a big Joe McMahon fan - but for the purposes of all stars - his versatililty is his downfall. :-\
Versatility should not be a negative thing Puck, quite the reverse. Like I say, the GPA have a joker that they're going to play very hard.
Yeah - it shouldnt be - but where do you put him?
One of the best in Ireland at half-forward, and one of the best in Ireland at corner back. Take your pick.
If they can mangle the defensive and offensive positions to give those who haven't played in a particular or specific position a gong because they belong to a zone, what prevents them from acknowledging that by extension?
GPA Player of the Year (Joe Mc Mahon) anyone? ;)
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 25, 2008, 07:31:27 PM
GPA Player of the Year (Joe Mc Mahon) anyone? ;)
I know that's tongue in cheek but come on - no one was mentioning Joe McMahon before his Dublin goal. Against Wexford? Played well against Kerry but of the 2 big men, Walsh had the better game with the lasting memory of Walsh skinning Joe undr the Hogan.
Won't happen Shane, but as you said earlier a nomination would suffice here -- that's the open goal that the GAA have presented. (And Walsh skinned everybody, just Mc Mahon a little less.)
davy harte will be very lucky to get a gong i reckon. it'll be tomás
Quote from: T O Hare on September 25, 2008, 12:43:55 PM
Francie Bellew???????????????????? Mc Keever was Armagh's best defender this year... Francie was hardly staedy against Fermangh in both games, there is some strange decisions!!!
I think o'rourke was armagh's best defender this year. mckeever had a cracking game against down, good in the ulster final replay but poor against cavan, first ulster final and particularly against wexford. none of them deserve nominations though!
im sure everyone agrees that cork have to get 1 all star.... pierce o neill will find it hard to break into half forwards with osullivan dooher and cavanagh.....canty will find it hard to get in to the half backs with jordan, harte and o shea/mcmenaman ...........who does that leave??? Yep thats right ANTHONY LYNCH! Got one in 99 and 02...any opinions on that theory lads??
How did Francie get a nomination, he got roasted in Croker, did he even have a man of the match performance all year?
- To be honest Ciaran McKeever had one good game on Benny and not enough for an All Star
- O'Rourke did well, but failed the test when it counted
- Apart from the goal against Wexford Francie was outstanding
- Gallagher is only a mouth and certainly not an All Star nominee let alone an All Star
- Joe McMahon should have been nominated
- Dessie Mone is no where near All Star material - cleaned out by Fermanagh and Derry
- Sorry Screen but Damien Freeman is not good enough either ... play anyone as a free man in the half back line and he'll look good. When O'Kane went and marked him he never touched it and Derry nearly won!
- Jordan had a good year all round
- Ricey deserves one too
- Doherty is nominated because of his goal in the NFL final ... that apart his contribution in the Championship was nil
- Eoin Bradley (1-2 in each game against Monaghan, Fermanagh and Donegal) would have been better choice IMO and should feel hard done by
- Gordon and Carr were good but probably not consistent enough against quality opposition
- I think Tomas O'Se had a very good year as opposed to other years and Marc is still overrated IMO
- Meehan had one good game, Joyce had a great League and probably had more good games over the 2 competitions than any forward
- Gormley shoudl certainly get one
Quote from: The GAA on September 25, 2008, 09:05:01 PM
davy harte will be very lucky to get a gong i reckon. it'll be tomás
Are you mad?
Davy will be a shoe in for an all star.
1-7 from play this championship, and a fantastic footballer.
Quote from: ONeill on September 25, 2008, 07:39:10 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 25, 2008, 07:31:27 PM
GPA Player of the Year (Joe Mc Mahon) anyone? ;)
I know that's tongue in cheek but come on - no one was mentioning Joe McMahon before his Dublin goal. Against Wexford? Played well against Kerry but of the 2 big men, Walsh had the better game with the lasting memory of Walsh skinning Joe undr the Hogan.
The only reason Walsh got away from big Joe was that Joe's boot had come off.....not easy to sprint in sock soles......
Watch it again and you'll see so hardly call it a skinning......
Dunno if he woulda got an all star but not even to be nominated is a disgrace when Walsh and Donaghy who were gonna cause so much mayhem did nothing..yet still got nominated....
Quote from: AFS on September 25, 2008, 11:34:38 PM
Quote from: The GAA on September 25, 2008, 09:09:48 PM
Quote from: T O Hare on September 25, 2008, 12:43:55 PM
Francie Bellew???????????????????? Mc Keever was Armagh's best defender this year... Francie was hardly staedy against Fermangh in both games, there is some strange decisions!!!
I think o'rourke was armagh's best defender this year. mckeever had a cracking game against down, good in the ulster final replay but poor against cavan, first ulster final and particularly against wexford. none of them deserve nominations though!
Quote from: JMohan on September 25, 2008, 10:44:50 PM
- To be honest Ciaran McKeever had one good game on Benny and not enough for an All Star
Guys, how much of Armagh's games did you actually watch this year. From your analyses I suspect that yous were restricted to TV highlights and post match newspaper reports. C McKeever was most certainly Armagh's best defender on show this year and had more than 'one good game against Down'. In the Ulster final replay he was also very close to receiving the MOTM award for his marking job on Fermanagh's Ciaran O'Reilly, the guy who had received the MOTM award for the drawn match. In the first Fermanagh match and the quarter final against Wexford he nullified the threats of Ryan Keenan and PJ Banville completely. It pains me to think what might have been if he'd been given the job of controlling Mattie Forde in the quarter final, as in hindsight he so obviously should have been.
Anyway these are all moot points and are going off on useless tangents, but I just wanted to correct some very obvious inaccuracies.
For fciks sake are you Martin Carney in disguise?!! His name is Ciaran McElroy! Obviously he made an impression on you with his MOTM performance. O'Reilly hasn't played in donkeys becasue of injury!!
Quotedavy harte will be very lucky to get a gong i reckon. it'll be tomás
;D :D ;D :D ;D :D
Quote from: JUMBODEMPSEY on September 26, 2008, 02:14:35 AM
The only reason Walsh got away from big Joe was that Joe's boot had come off.....not easy to sprint in sock soles......
Watch it again and you'll see so hardly call it a skinning......
Joe's boot came off whilst hopelessly chasing him. Twas a skinning ok. Walsh is some prospect.
Quote from: JMohan on September 25, 2008, 10:44:50 PM
- To be honest Ciaran McKeever had one good game on Benny and not enough for an All Star
- O'Rourke did well, but failed the test when it counted
- Apart from the goal against Wexford Francie was outstanding
- Gallagher is only a mouth and certainly not an All Star nominee let alone an All Star
- Joe McMahon should have been nominated
- Dessie Mone is no where near All Star material - cleaned out by Fermanagh and Derry
- Sorry Screen but Damien Freeman is not good enough either ... play anyone as a free man in the half back line and he'll look good. When O'Kane went and marked him he never touched it and Derry nearly won!
- Jordan had a good year all round
- Ricey deserves one too
- Doherty is nominated because of his goal in the NFL final ... that apart his contribution in the Championship was nil
- Eoin Bradley (1-2 in each game against Monaghan, Fermanagh and Donegal) would have been better choice IMO and should feel hard done by
- Gordon and Carr were good but probably not consistent enough against quality opposition
- I think Tomas O'Se had a very good year as opposed to other years and Marc is still overrated IMO
- Meehan had one good game, Joyce had a great League and probably had more good games over the 2 competitions than any forward
- Gormley shoudl certainly get one
Jaysus i thought o'rourke was armagh's bes player on the day against wexford.
bellew held his own, protected by o'rourke, but outstanding was never a word to use about him this year.
gallagher made some match winning saves for fermanagh this year to be fair to him.
I think mcmahons versitility has actually romanticised his effectiveness a bit.
I don't know how it has romanticised his effectiveness - in 2005 he came in to the problem full back spot and played a key role in helping Tyrone win the All Ireland. This year he has came into the half forward line and offered a very different dynamic to your stereotypical No.12. For the final Tyrone were facing the media darlings - the 'Twin Towers' and it was frequently proposed that they would wreck havoc on the Tyrone full back line - yet they did little damage come the game and this was partly down to Joe. His efficiency at playing in the positions he has played is extremely high.
Have to agree with Martin Carney-sorry AFS- here. Having watched Armagh all year in McKenna Cup, National League and championship Ciaran McKeever has been Armagh's outstanding defender. Although it may not be popular to say it I think Francie was lucky to get his place in the championship team. On saying that bar one mistake he had quite a good championship.
QuoteThe GAA have just handed the GPA a masterstroke of positive publicity
Spot on Fear - spot on
Masterson (sympathy vote) the Reilly nomination is a disgrace
Gormley, McMahon, Lynch (covers the 'need' on Cork; O'Se ultimately wasn't good enough this year)
O'Se, Jordan and a toss up between Harte and McMenamin
McGinley and Ryan (slight tokenism, O'Se undone by his indiscipline)
Dooher, Cavanagh and O'Sullivan - all notably ahead of the competion here
Clarke, Cooper and take your pick from Forde, Lyng or Donaghy. For me Donaghy had more impact over the season. The thought of Forde rather than the actions of Forde scared defences and l;eft space for BAnville and Lyng but despite beingf a (double some days) marked man, Donaghy was still influential every day up to the AIF.
Quote from: AFS on September 25, 2008, 11:34:38 PM
In the first Fermanagh match and the quarter final against Wexford he nullified the threats of Ryan Keenan and PJ Banville completely.
don't get me wrong, McKeever is a great defender but he's capable of far better than he showed consistently this year. Banville ran McKeever ragged and lets be fair, keenan is a poor footballer
How many games did Doyle play? What was his average score?
Lads we all have to acknowledge that the All Star award was once a very proud thing to have, up there beside an All ireland medal. Now it is just another award and is not a bid deal any more.
Cavanagh, Dooher and Gooch nominated for footballer of the year.
Is there any way of getting tickets to the ceremony? Do companies take tables or is it by invite only?
Hi Rois
Maybe give Cuthbert Donnelly a holler as he is usually the Tyrone link man.
Hope you enjoyed your BIG night out in the Glen on Saturday!
I think Cavanagh's inclusion in the half forwards makes that a very interesting line. Himself and Dooher are certainties but I'd thought Colm McCullough might have done enough for an All Star though he'd have to do so at the expense of Declan O'Sullivan now who would also be unfortunate to miss out.
Increases the chances of Clarke getting an All Star though so I'm pleased in that sense. Its a possibility that Tyrone could get a clean sweep of both the half back and half forward lines.
Enda McGinley should have been nominated ahead of Gooch,but i suppose they wouldnt nominate 3 players off the one team.
Just looking at Paddy Power's odds there. There are 4 players (Jordan, O Sé, Harte and McMenamin) priced at 8/15 or shorter to get an All Star. Seems very strange. Is it definitely out of the question that any of these could be accommodated in the full back line?
It was the same last year TAM.
PP give terrible prices on the majority of occasions & if you can get your bet on elsewhere I would advise you to go there.
Where is the next all-star to anyway?
All the odds here
http://www.paddypower.com/bet?action=go_type&category=SPORTS&disp_cat_id=53&ev_class_id=158&ev_type_id=9252&ev_oc_grp_ids=56256&bir_index=
Yeah its a bit shit isn't it... When is the actual announcement??
So, if Paddy Power are correct it's:
Connaughton
McMahon - Gormely - Lynch
Harte - T OSe - Jordan (McMenamin is also odds-on but 4th in the betting)
McGinley - Ryan
Dooher - Cavanagh - OSullivan
Cooper - Donaghy - Forde
Value for money:
Clarke at 11/8
Lyng 13/8
Mark OSe 11/8
Dara 9/4
Opel/GPA award nominees
The GPA Awards for September
08 October 2008
The official nominees for the 2008 Opel Gaelic Players Awards for football have been announced today by the GPA. A total of 45 players have been named on the shortlist for the Team of the Year, with four players also nominated for the Player of the Year award.
The shortlist for the Opel Gaelic Team of the Year includes 45 players - three players for each position. The shortlist contains players from 15 counties including; Tyrone, Kerry, Wexford, Dublin, Westmeath, Kildare, Galway, Mayo, Cork, Limerick, Monaghan, Fermanagh, Armagh, Down and Derry.
The Opel Gaelic Team of the Year shortlist reflects the most successful counties in this year's championship with All-Ireland champions Tyrone receiving a total of nine nominations. Losing All-Ireland finalists Kerry received eight nominations while All-Ireland semi-finalists Wexford received four. Dublin, Westmeath, Galway, Cork, Fermanagh and Armagh all received three nominations each.
The four nominees for the Opel Gaelic Player of the year as chosen by the Football Selection Committee are: Sean Cavanagh (Tyrone), Brian Dooher (Tyrone) Tomas O Se (Kerry) and Declan O'Sullivan (Kerry).
The shortlists were drawn up by a selection committee consisting of Chairman Jack O'Connor, along with Keith Barr, Martin McHugh and Paddy Heaney. The winners will be selected by GPA members, all of whom have been issued with voting cards.
Commenting on the announcement, Chairman of the Football Selection Committee, Jack O'Connor said, "Gaelic football is a team game, but as we all know individual contributions throughout the year are deserving of recognition. As always with these type of awards, they are entirely subjective and are sure to generate debate. However, the committee feels the 45 players we have chosen have earned their selection."
The shortlist in full for the 2008 Opel Gaelic team of the Year consists of:
1. Ronan Gallagher (Fermanagh), Gary Connaughton (Westmeath), Anthony Masterson (Wexford)
2. Marc O Se (Kerry), Dessie Mone (Monaghan), John Keane (Westmeath)
3. Justin McMahon (Tyrone), Francie Bellew (Armagh), Finian Hanley (Galway)
4. Conor Gormley (Tyrone), Anthony Lynch (Cork), David Henry (Dublin)
5. Tomas S (Kerry), Davy Harte (Tyrone), Michael Ennis (Westmeath)
6. Ryan McCluskey (Fermanagh), Philip Jordan (Tyrone), Aidan O'Mahony (Kerry)
7. Ryan McMenamin (Tyrone), Ciaran McKeever (Armagh), Graham Canty (Cork)
8 & 9 Enda McGinley (Tyrone), Darragh O Se (Kerry), Shane Ryan (Dublin), Dan Gordon (Down), John Galvin (Limerick), Martin McGrath (Fermanagh)
10. Brian Dooher (Tyrone), Alan Dillon (Mayo), John Doyle (Kildare)
11. Declan O'Sullivan (Kerry), Padraic Joyce (Galway), Pearse O'Neill (Cork)
12. Joe McMahon (Tyrone), Redmond Barry (Wexford), Alan Brogan (Dublin)
13. Colm Cooper (Kerry), Paddy Bradley (Derry), Ciaran Lyng (Wexford)
14. Sean Cavanagh, (Tyrone), Kieran Donaghy (Kerry), Ronan Clarke (Armagh)
15. Tommy Walsh (Kerry), Michael Meehan (Galway), Matty Forde (Wexford)
Knew they wouldnt leave big joe out!!
Philip Jordan number 6 ???
Nice to see the 3 boys get recognition again, even if it is the GPA, [/spit]....
If they're picking one from each position the team I think they'll pick will be:
Gallagher
Keane, McMahon, Gormley,
Tomas O'Sé, Jordan, McMenamin,
McGinley, Ryan,
Dooher, O'Sullivan, Barry,
Cooper, Cavanagh, Meehan
Croi, I would agree with your team but with Connaughton an Number one and Joe McMahon at 12. His displays there against Dublin and Wexford merit his inclusion over Barry.
I'd have Connaughton in there as well but Fermanagh deserve someone for getting to an Ulster Final and I think it'll be Gallagher who gets it. Same with Wexford and Barry made them tick in the forwards. Mickey Harte saw to it that he was negated in the semi and the result was a stroll in the park for them.
Gallagher
O'Se Justin McMahon Gormley
Harte Jordan Mcmenamin
McGinley Ryan
Dooher O'Sullivan J McMahon
Cooper Cavanagh Meehan
for me goin on this selection process.............
The official All-Stars - which one will be announced the day before this year - hurling or football?
Ok, final predictions before tomorrow:
Connaughton
McMahon - Gormley - Lynch
Harte - T OSe - Jordan
McGinley - Ryan
Dooher - Cavanagh - OSullivan
Cooper - Donaghy - Forde
anyone kno what time that they are announced 2day?
6 pm I think
Someone posted the team here last year. Before it was even announced. It was common enough knowledge around dublin
Announced on todayfm few mins ago.
Only heard some of them
7-8 Tyrone.
Cavanagh picked in half forward line
Team on the BBC website now.
From BBC:
G Connaughton (Westmeath)
C Gormley (Tyrone), Justin McMahon (Tyrone), J Keane (Westmeath)
D Harte (Tyrone), T O Se (Kerry), P Jordan (Tyrone)
E McGinley (Tyrone), S Ryan (Dublin)
B Dooher (Tyrone), Declan O'Sullivan (Kerry), S Cavanagh (Tyrone)
C Cooper (Kerry), K Donaghy (Kerry), R Clarke (Armagh)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7671928.stm
Tyrone win seven All Stars awards
Sean Cavanagh will pick up his fourth All Star on Friday night
All-Ireland champions Tyrone lead the Vodafone Football All Stars honours for 2008 with seven awards.
Defenders Conor Gormley, Justin McMahon, Davy Harte and Philip Jordan are all honoured but their team-mate Ryan McMenamin misses out.
Midfielder Enda McGinley and forwards Brian Dooher and Sean Cavanagh are also honoured as is Armagh's Ronan Clarke.
In addition to McMenamin, notable omissions include Mattie Forde, Martin McGrath and Michael Meehan.
McMenamin's chances were reduced when he was nominated as a half-back, as opposed to his more regular full-back role.
As it happens, Westmeath's John Keane claimed the left corner-back jersey while McMenamin's two Tyrone team-mates Jordan and Harte and Kerry's Tomas O Se make up the half-back line.
Shane Ryan edges out Martin McGrath for a midfield slot and Fermanagh may feel a little sore after missing out on an award.
Forde had a superb year for Wexford, as they reached the All-Ireland semi-finals but Colm Cooper, Kieran Donaghy and Ronan Clarke get the full-forward awards.
Overall, Wexford will surely feel hard done by after being ignored despite their splendid season.
Ciaran Lyng and Redmond Barry appeared to be Wexford's other main contenders.
Westmeath did run Tyrone very close in Omagh but they look to have over-achieved with Gary Connaughton joining corner-back Keane in the selection.
Of the Tyrone winners, Cavanagh is winning his fourth award - one more than both Gormley and Dooher.
Cavanagh, Dooher and Colm Cooper are the contenders for the overall Footballer of the Year award which will be announced at Friday's banquet in Dublin.
Justin McMahon, Harte, Jordan and McGinley will all pick up their first All Star.
Armagh forward Clarke wins his second award.
Interestingly, only 2 of the 15 all stars won provincial medals with Cork and Galway not represented in the selection.
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All Stars Football team: G Connaughton (Westmeath), C Gormley (Tyrone), Justin McMahon (Tyrone), J Keane (Westmeath), D Harte (Tyrone), T O Se (Kerry), P Jordan (Tyrone), E McGinley (Tyrone), S Ryan (Dublin), B Dooher (Tyrone), Declan O'Sullivan (Kerry), S Cavanagh (Tyrone), C Cooper (Kerry), K Donaghy (Kerry), R Clarke (Armagh).
From the BBC
It's fair enough really...
Shane Ryan might be a wee bit controversial ??
Dubs had to get one. Its fair enough in my view.
It's fair to me. Thought Ryan was superb for the Dubs, even against Tyrone he was the Dubs only player!
Delighted for Ronan Clarke too.
Did Philip Jordan get an All Star in '05? It says he is winning his 1st...
Fair enough selection, although a pity Ricey didn't get one as he had a good season.
Well done to the 15 winners.
Sean Cavanagh will pick up his fourth All Star on Friday night
All-Ireland champions Tyrone lead the Vodafone Football All Stars honours for 2008 with seven awards.
4 All Stars is some going - some player.
Dublin 1 All Star - Westmeath 2 - goalie got 3/4 put past him in Leinster final
Wexford in teh AI Semi final and get zero allstars... ???
Quote from: Doohicky on October 15, 2008, 03:31:14 PM
Wexford in teh AI Semi final and get zero allstars... ???
completely agree...typical all star crap. like when was the last time Wexford got to an AII Lreand semi final. What a F U
Wexford's ommision is a disgrace.
Sean Cavanagh is a legend, and it'll be interesting to see how many all-stars he has when he hangs up the boots.
You would've got a quer price on Justy getting an all-star before Joe a few years back. Both should've got one the year.
Delighted for Enda and to a lesser degree Davy Harte. McGinley to me was Tyrone's best player in 05, and again this season.
Orangeman getting your "Free State" geography mixed up there. Westmeath is not Wexford...... who were in the Leinster final.
Anyway, Congrats to all recipients and in particular to our own Shane Ryan.
They really denied Redmond Barry by nominating Cavanagh in the HF line. Cavanagh should have been FF, Donaghy out of there and Barry in there.
Based on the nominations though that is a fair reflection. John Keane gave as good a CB display as you'll see against Dublin and I'm sure was more than competent in his other outings too.
Quote from: Mac Eoghain on October 15, 2008, 03:39:04 PM
I struggle to see why Donaghy should have got one, as said Sean should have had full forward and Barry a half forward award.
Very true
congrats to all concerned. sean has his fourth, how many did spillane get?
Could a tyrone man surpass his total? at 25 he could get another 4/5 if he stays injury free!
QuoteWexford's ommision is a disgrace.
Sean Cavanagh is a legend, and it'll be interesting to see how many all-stars he has when he hangs up the boots.
You would've got a quer price on Justy getting an all-star before Joe a few years back. Both should've got one the year.
Delighted for Enda and to a lesser degree Davy Harte. McGinley to me was Tyrone's best player in 05, and again this season.
Not too sure Norf, I understand what you are saying but at the same time a team getting to the semi's shouldn't necessarily represent a token all-star as it would have been realistically.
Quote from: Final Whistle on October 15, 2008, 03:45:59 PM
congrats to all concerned. sean has his fourth, how many did spillane get?
Could a tyrone man surpass his total? at 25 he could get another 4/5 if he stays injury free!
In all Spillane collected eleven Munster Championship medals between 1975 and 1991. He played in ten All-Ireland finals, ending up on the winning side on eight occasions. Spillane also won Railway Cup football medals with Munster in 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980 and 1981, as well as four National Football Leagues in 1974, 1977, 1982 and 1984.
Spillane has also received nine All-Star awards, more than any other player in the history of Gaelic football. He shares the record within the Gaelic Athletic Association with D.J. Carey and Eddie Keher (although Keher's record is made up of 5 All-Stars and 4 Cú Chulainn Awards as his career predates the All-Star awards) who have also received nine All-Stars for their hurling performances for Kilkenny. Spillane was honoured with an All-Star accolade during the following years: 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1984, 1985 and 1986
Quote from: Final Whistle on October 15, 2008, 03:45:59 PM
congrats to all concerned. sean has his fourth, how many did spillane get?
Could a tyrone man surpass his total? at 25 he could get another 4/5 if he stays injury free!
Ye lads really have Kerry in yer sights these days ;)
The whole naming of players in different positions has runined the system - the Donaghy example is a joke and also Ryan McMenamins exclusion is unbelievable. McCullagh was more deserving of a forward award than Donaghy.
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 15, 2008, 03:56:33 PM
The whole naming of players in different positions has runined the system - the Donaghy example is a joke and also Ryan McMenamins exclusion is unbelievable. McCullagh was more deserving of a forward award than Donaghy.
So basically you wanted more All-Stars for Tyrone? ;D
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 15, 2008, 03:56:33 PM
The whole naming of players in different positions has runined the system - the Donaghy example is a joke and also Ryan McMenamins exclusion is unbelievable. McCullagh was more deserving of a forward award than Donaghy.
Do ye ever stop giving out? ::)
Delighted for the two Westmeath lads, particularly Gary who suffered dogs abuse from a section of the Dubs fans over the 4 games.
Quote from: gerrykeegan on October 15, 2008, 04:02:49 PM
Delighted for the two Westmeath lads, particularly Gary who suffered dogs abuse from a section of the Dubs fans over the 4 games.
Westmeath have done really well getting two All-Stars considering they didn't reach the quarter-finals or even a provincial final.
Clarke, Cavanagh and Tomas O'Se are the only 3 out of position so not sure there should too much of an argument about out of position players.
Quote from: gerrykeegan on October 15, 2008, 04:02:49 PM
Delighted for the two Westmeath lads, particularly Gary who suffered dogs abuse from a section of the Dubs fans over the 4 games.
Bizarre comment. If it did happen are you suggesting it was a sympathy vote because of this, otherwise why mention it here?
Congrats to all.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 15, 2008, 04:07:02 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on October 15, 2008, 04:02:49 PM
Delighted for the two Westmeath lads, particularly Gary who suffered dogs abuse from a section of the Dubs fans over the 4 games.
Westmeath have done really well getting two All-Stars considering they didn't reach the quarter-finals or even a provincial final.
considering Wexfords position its doesn't make any sense at all...or even derry who won the national league
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 15, 2008, 04:11:33 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 15, 2008, 04:07:02 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on October 15, 2008, 04:02:49 PM
Delighted for the two Westmeath lads, particularly Gary who suffered dogs abuse from a section of the Dubs fans over the 4 games.
Westmeath have done really well getting two All-Stars considering they didn't reach the quarter-finals or even a provincial final.
considering Wexfords position its doesn't make any sense at all...or even derry who won the national league
Wexford weren't the only side to get to an All Ire semi final to be overlooked.The Ryan selection would be utterly bizarre if he wasn't from Dublin.
demand excellence boys, just demand the best and then when your think you have reached the promised land ask for fu*kin more.lol.
Quote from: TBT on October 15, 2008, 04:13:45 PM
.The Ryan selection would be utterly bizarre if he wasn't from Dublin.
Feck sake, the man was great for the Dubs, credit where its due.
I'd suggest that you wouldnt find it utterly bizarre at all were he not from Dublin ::)
Quote from: his holiness nb on October 15, 2008, 04:10:53 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on October 15, 2008, 04:02:49 PM
Delighted for the two Westmeath lads, particularly Gary who suffered dogs abuse from a section of the Dubs fans over the 4 games.
Bizarre comment. If it did happen are you suggesting it was a sympathy vote because of this, otherwise why mention it here?
Congrats to all.
I said I was delighted for both lads. The abuse he received from a section of the Dubs fans makes it sweeter!
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 15, 2008, 04:01:08 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 15, 2008, 03:56:33 PM
The whole naming of players in different positions has runined the system - the Donaghy example is a joke and also Ryan McMenamins exclusion is unbelievable. McCullagh was more deserving of a forward award than Donaghy.
So basically you wanted more All-Stars for Tyrone? ;D
Sure Donaghey is from Tyrone! Head to head though you gotta agree that McCullough or even to a degree Tommy McGuigan has had a better season than Donaghey.
I notice there while reading Spillane's pedigree that big Sean has more Ulster titles than Spillane has.
Congrats to Both Gary C and JK, both were the most consistent and reliable players all year for WH.
I haven't even bothered to look at this thread in ages since the all stars to me is a bad joke and should be done away with. As I understand the idea of the all stars is to select each year (copy and paste from wikipedia)
...the best player in each of the fifteen positions in Gaelic football & Hurling in Ireland.
No where does it say that the first 6 months of the year should be ignored for the last 2 months
No where does it say that the all ireland winners need to get 7/8 minimum or that provincial winners, semi finalist ect are entitled to a quota.
No where does it say that the dubs should always get at least 1.
So why is it that every year the same balancing act is undertaken to try and keep everyone happy. Is it not possible that a team could win the all ireland with no one "all star" player, but with a tremendous work/team ethic to compensate. Fermanagh should have won Ulster with that approach and if they did they'd probably have a player on the team, which personally I don't think they deserve either way.
Have to say, I've very pleasantly surprised, well done to the two lads, makes up for Connaughton not getting one in 04, hopefully it gives us a good base going into 09...
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 15, 2008, 04:28:26 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 15, 2008, 04:01:08 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 15, 2008, 03:56:33 PM
The whole naming of players in different positions has runined the system - the Donaghy example is a joke and also Ryan McMenamins exclusion is unbelievable. McCullagh was more deserving of a forward award than Donaghy.
So basically you wanted more All-Stars for Tyrone? ;D
Sure Donaghey is from Tyrone! Head to head though you gotta agree that McCullough or even to a degree Tommy McGuigan has had a better season than Donaghey.
Possibly although you could also argue that Michael Meehan was better than all of them. He was after all the leading scorer from play in the league and probably produced the individual performance of the entire championship against Kerry. Or Padraig Joyce who earlier in the Summer was in the running for footballer of the year until Galway got knocked out in the quarters.
Not that these lads should have automatically got All-Stars but there are many players in or around selection who had equally deserving shouts. In the end though unless you get to an All-Ireland semi-final you're unlikely to get selected apart from a couple. Cork and Wexford I'm sure feel the most hard done by.
Overall though I don't place much stock in the All-Stars as the whole selection process is flawed IMO.
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 15, 2008, 04:28:26 PM
I notice there while reading Spillane's pedigree that big Sean has more Ulster titles than Spillane has.
Didnt know Spillane ever played in the Ulster ???
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 15, 2008, 04:11:33 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 15, 2008, 04:07:02 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on October 15, 2008, 04:02:49 PM
Delighted for the two Westmeath lads, particularly Gary who suffered dogs abuse from a section of the Dubs fans over the 4 games.
Westmeath have done really well getting two All-Stars considering they didn't reach the quarter-finals or even a provincial final.
considering Wexfords position its doesn't make any sense at all...or even derry who won the national league
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But all-stars are for players, not teams.
Quote from: full back on October 15, 2008, 04:41:52 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 15, 2008, 04:28:26 PM
I notice there while reading Spillane's pedigree that big Sean has more Ulster titles than Spillane has.
Didnt know Spillane ever played in the Ulster ???
Switch on the sarcasm radar there FB!
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 15, 2008, 04:47:42 PM
Quote from: full back on October 15, 2008, 04:41:52 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 15, 2008, 04:28:26 PM
I notice there while reading Spillane's pedigree that big Sean has more Ulster titles than Spillane has.
Didnt know Spillane ever played in the Ulster ???
Switch on the sarcasm radar there FB!
Exactly Norf ;)
Great scoop for the Tyrone boys again, with a few (both from Tyrone and other counties) who can as usual feel aggrieved to have been left out.
What happens on the all star trip in the event that a player is on both last years and this years team - who do they play for and who makes up the numbers?
There are replacements called in.
Not sure how they decide which year they replace from.
Maybe they split it evenly if possible and if not luck of the draw.
I'm delighted for the two lads. Connaughton has been the best keeper around for a while now and this makes up for missing out in '04. John Keane has been superb for years and certainly deserves to add to his tally.
This seems to be a move towards picking players rather than allocating places to counties based on performance. Think Shane Ryan was very deserving althought Wexford will be very disappointed.
Discrimination against beards! Joey didn't get nominated and Ricey didn't win. Fergal should look into this and bring it to court!!
Congratulations to the Tyrone Seven, all throughly deserved ( must admit the tears are not tripping me about McMenaminthough)
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on October 15, 2008, 05:44:51 PM
Congratulations to the Tyrone Seven, all throughly deserved ( must admit the tears are not tripping me about McMenaminthough)
Why not ?
Well done to all, but just a wee thought from an animal, if Declan O'Sullivan's shot had sneaked in and Kerry had won the AI, the selection crew would have had to squeeze in a least Killian Young and probably Darragh O'Se onto that team to give us at least 6 winners. I think O'Se had a better year than Shane Ryan anyway even though Darragh was suspended for half of his games.
And why the f**k is Stephen Cluxton missing from the team. I thought he was an honorary selection at this stage.
Cork, Galway and Wexford are the big losers, Tyrone and Westmeath the main winners.
4 is just about right for a losing All Ireland team but its no consolation, the sooner this year is over the better.
Well done to Colm Cooper on his 5th All Star award.
Hard to believe that this is Enda McGinelys first all star - he was definitely an unsung hero of 03 and 05.
Well done to the two from Westmeath, both thoroughly deserved. If we can build on this year hopefully we'll have the same and more in the year to come...
Strange to see 2 from Westmeath but I didn't see any of their Leinster games so I'll reserve judgement.
Surprised neither Forde nor Barry got one for Wexford. Barry was always likely to be squeezed out int he half forward line as McCullagh was probably ahead of him as well but I thought they'd definately give Forde one and that it would be between Donaghy and Clarke for the last spot.
Congratulations to Ronan anyway. Some of his scores this year were sublime.
They got it more or less spot on imo. The 6 forwards were hard to displace as the best 6 throughout the year. Ricey I'm sure went close but he did cost us the game v Down yet improved greatly as the season progressed, though if he'd been named in the FB line he'd have received it before Keane.
good to Shane Ryan getting one often thought that he done all the work in the middle for Dublin while Whelan was getting all the glory
Connacht left out once again for not having any daily papers or National Radio or TV Station(TG4 is part of RTE).
Why dont they just pick a 15 from the All Ireland Final plus Dublin. >:(
So who from Connacht would you have given one to?
Meehan could maybe be argued - not sure anyone else?
Fair enough team i suppose - ryan at midfield is the only baffling one.
personally i'd have given ricey corner back before gormley who had a poor year by his own high standards
Westmeath getting two and Wexford none is a disgrace. Donaghy is definitely not deserving of one. I dont know how anyone could begrudge Ryan one. He was outstanding this year for the Dubs. I dont think Meehan deserved one because most of his haul this year apart from that match was from frees. But if the league and entire championship was to be taken in to consideration then Joyce definitely deserved one at centre forward.
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 15, 2008, 08:56:34 PM
So who from Connacht would you have given one to?
Meehan could maybe be argued - not sure anyone else?
Joyce.
lyng, forde, darragh o'se & pierce o'neill have every right to be p!ssed off tonight! glad to see enda mcginley get one. dont think shane ryan shouldve got one, still happy for him though
Ryan at midfield? Wise up. Nomination like that shame the awards.
Quotegormley who had a poor year by his own high standards
Agreed. When you make an early shout for the team of the millennium there's only one way for you to go.
Think that the 2 Westmeath selections are spot on and it was about time this nonsense of counties 'having to get one' ended. These are awards for individual performances and while I think Conor Gormley was lucky out, chat that Cork , Wexford and Galway were unlucky is shite. They are counties, its an individual awards ceremony.
Quote from: ross matt on October 15, 2008, 10:09:18 PM
Westmeath getting two and Wexford none is a disgrace. Donaghy is definitely not deserving of one. I dont know how anyone could begrudge Ryan one. He was outstanding this year for the Dubs. I dont think Meehan deserved one because most of his haul this year apart from that match was from frees. But if the league and entire championship was to be taken in to consideration then Joyce definitely deserved one at centre forward.
Which of the half forward line would you have put Joyce in ahead of?
Makes an absolute joke out of the whole thing when Ricey didnt get one! ???
And why move Cavanagh to suit Donaghy?
Cavanagh was the best Full Forward this year bar none !
Ok maybe he was the best half forward aswell but he played most of his football at full ;)
Oh as for Gormley ;D
Quote from: under the bar on October 15, 2008, 10:53:38 PM
Ryan at midfield? Wise up. Nomination like that shame the awards.
Quotegormley who had a poor year by his own high standards
Agreed. When you make an early shout for the team of the millennium there's only one way for you to go.
Couldnt have put it better myself :)
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 15, 2008, 08:56:34 PM
So who from Connacht would you have given one to?
Meehan could maybe be argued - not sure anyone else?
Keith Higgins saw off Tommy McGuigan (substituted) and Micheál Meehan.
Quote from: under the bar on October 15, 2008, 10:53:38 PM
Ryan at midfield? Wise up. Nomination like that shame the awards.
Quotegormley who had a poor year by his own high standards
Agreed. When you make an early shout for the team of the millennium there's only one way for you to go.
jaysus, you're bad enough without embarrassing yourself with that sort of tripe
Quote from: muppet on October 16, 2008, 01:03:02 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 15, 2008, 08:56:34 PM
So who from Connacht would you have given one to?
Meehan could maybe be argued - not sure anyone else?
Keith Higgins saw off Tommy McGuigan (substituted) and Micheál Meehan.
I thought Meehan actually played very well in the Connacht final. He only got 0-1 from play but he won a whole pile of ball and laid much of it off to others for scores.
Quote from: Buckass on October 15, 2008, 11:11:38 PM
Think that the 2 Westmeath selections are spot on and it was about time this nonsense of counties 'having to get one' ended. These are awards for individual performances and while I think Conor Gormley was lucky out, chat that Cork , Wexford and Galway were unlucky is shite. They are counties, its an individual awards ceremony.
Indeed. The idea that someone's team not reaching the latter stages is sufficient grounds for disqualification from consideration is pure bollocks. As it is, someone from the very unsuccessful counties has to almost be of Declan Browne standard to be seriously considered. Its nice to see that someone playing to a high standard for a side like Westmeath who didn't make it to the quarter finals can still win an All Star.
Quote from: ONeill on October 15, 2008, 07:19:04 PM
They got it more or less spot on imo. The 6 forwards were hard to displace as the best 6 throughout the year. Ricey I'm sure went close but he did cost us the game v Down yet improved greatly as the season progressed, though if he'd been named in the FB line he'd have received it before Keane.
:o
That's harsh.
I think they are fair enough. Well done to Westmeath for getting two, and I would agree with both. I'd have had John Keane, and goalkeepers are a toss up. I'd have thought Connaughton deserved it, but I couldn't see them getting 2. It's a reflection on Westmeath's new ultra sickening defensive approach :P
I do feel sorry for the Wexford lads, Lyng and Barry particularly, but I thought Forde would get one. The only thing is, you can't really argue too much about the 6 forwards picked. Possibly Lyng or Forde will feel they had as good a claim as Clarke, but it's really splitting hairs. Declan O'Sullivan will raise eyebrows in some quarters, but I think he's worth his place. Redmond Barry may disagree.
This thing about 'we got further so we deserve more' is a moot point, because the individual spots should be a straight 'competition' with others nominated for that position(s). The fact that Wexford got 0, as did Cork, while Westmeath got 2 looks odd, but when you consider where Westmeath got theirs, then I don't think either Wexford or Cork could say they had better players in those posiitons.
I think it's good to see it this way actually.
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 16, 2008, 09:39:42 AM
I think they are fair enough. Well done to Westmeath for getting two, and I would agree with both. I'd have had John Keane, and goalkeepers are a toss up. I'd have thought Connaughton deserved it, but I couldn't see them getting 2. It's a reflection on Westmeath's new ultra sickening defensive approach :P
I do feel sorry for the Wexford lads, Lyng and Barry particularly, but I thought Forde would get one. The only thing is, you can't really argue too much about the 6 forwards picked. Possibly Lyng or Forde will feel they had as good a claim as Clarke, but it's really splitting hairs. Declan O'Sullivan will raise eyebrows in some quarters, but I think he's worth his place. Redmond Barry may disagree.
This thing about 'we got further so we deserve more' is a moot point, because the individual spots should be a straight 'competition' with others nominated for that position(s). The fact that Wexford got 0, as did Cork, while Westmeath got 2 looks odd, but when you consider where Westmeath got theirs, then I don't think either Wexford or Cork could say they had better players in those posiitons.
I think it's good to see it this way actually.
Not a chance, Clarke by far deserved one before Lyng and Ford,
I would say that Lyng had a great year, but as I said, you couldn't say they were more deserving than Clarke.
To be honest, I think the Allstar awards are a bit of a joke these days.
Too many players picked out of position just to get them on the team.
I personally think that each position should only be filled by a player who has played at least 4-5 games in that position. It would also be good to get confirmation if the awards are picked only on championship games or doe league games come into play too.
I also think there is a lot of "well a lot of people would not be happy if player x didnt get one so we'll put him in" going on as well.
I personally think that the allstars have no credibility any more what so ever and it's now just a meaningless pr exercise.
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 16, 2008, 09:39:42 AM
I think they are fair enough. Well done to Westmeath for getting two, and I would agree with both. I'd have had John Keane, and goalkeepers are a toss up. I'd have thought Connaughton deserved it, but I couldn't see them getting 2. It's a reflection on Westmeath's new ultra slick demoralising approach :P
Fixed that for you AZ, and thank your lucky stars yous are on the opposite side of the draw next year... :P
Regarding the 6 forwards, personally I'd have Cavanagh in at full forward, where he was named most of the championship, no Donaghy, O'Sullivan at 12 and Barry at 11...
What happened to Stephen Cluxton's annual award?
Happy enough with those overall, and great to see the two Westmeath lads being recognised -- fully deserved. As a Wexford pal said to me last night, whilst disappointed that the Model didn't secure any, acknowledged that none of those chosen could have been justifiably dislodged by any Wexford player this year.
Not perfect, but you can't please all of the GAA bods any of the time.
Quote from: Hardy on October 16, 2008, 10:14:38 AM
What happened to Stephen Cluxton's annual award?
Shane Ryan got it
The inclusion of the One Trick Pony at FF has rendered the All-Stars a joke. Nice to see Westmeath receiving 2 awards but can they be justified ahead of no selections from Cork, Wexford or Galway? P Joyce distinctly unlucky I feel with honourable mentions to Meehan and T Walsh - Martin Brehony had been pushing hard for PJ I heard. The Gooch will surely break the record for awards received in time.
Quote from: tbrick18 on October 16, 2008, 09:50:10 AM
To be honest, I think the Allstar awards are a bit of a joke these days.
Too many players picked out of position just to get them on the team.
I personally think that each position should only be filled by a player who has played at least 4-5 games in that position. It would also be good to get confirmation if the awards are picked only on championship games or doe league games come into play too.
I also think there is a lot of "well a lot of people would not be happy if player x didnt get one so we'll put him in" going on as well.
I personally think that the allstars have no credibility any more what so ever and it's now just a meaningless pr exercise.
Catch your self on for god's sake! Tyrone have proved positions don't matter. It's total football. Corner backs in conrer forward positons and vice versa! - It should be the best team that gets picked.
If a Derry plyaer had taken an award - you wouldn't have made that comment! - What about Eoin Bradley for his performance in the 7's eh? :P
As for the criticsm of Donaghy, yes he was poor in the final, however in every other game, he's was involved in everything good Kerry did.
QuoteThe inclusion of the One Trick Pony at FF has rendered the All-Stars a joke.
Indeed. Sean Cavanagh scored 6 points more than Donaghy & Walsh put together in the championship. If they were so desperate to give Donaghy an award throw him into another position, but at least name Cavanagh at No. 14 to refect how much more superior he was in that position to any other player.
I think it's time that they do away with postions as they've become a joke and just name the best keeper, 6 best backs, 2 best midfielders and 6 best forwards in that year.
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on October 16, 2008, 10:28:37 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on October 16, 2008, 09:50:10 AM
To be honest, I think the Allstar awards are a bit of a joke these days.
Too many players picked out of position just to get them on the team.
I personally think that each position should only be filled by a player who has played at least 4-5 games in that position. It would also be good to get confirmation if the awards are picked only on championship games or doe league games come into play too.
I also think there is a lot of "well a lot of people would not be happy if player x didnt get one so we'll put him in" going on as well.
I personally think that the allstars have no credibility any more what so ever and it's now just a meaningless pr exercise.
Catch your self on for god's sake! Tyrone have proved positions don't matter. It's total football. Corner backs in conrer forward positons and vice versa! - It should be the best team that gets picked.
If a Derry plyaer had taken an award - you wouldn't have made that comment! - What about Eoin Bradley for his performance in the 7's eh? :P
As for the criticsm of Donaghy, yes he was poor in the final, however in every other game, he's was involved in everything good Kerry did.
have to admit I agree with mouview and wonder why donaghy got this award, imo he did not contribute much towards kerry's march to the final this season and also imo young Walsh was a far greater contributor to that kerry side than donaghy has been or was this season.
I think Walsh will replace Daragh ose in midfield when he retires and thus we will maybe never see the potent firepower the lad showed in large glimpses this season.
If he stays fit and healthy, Tommy W will be THE star player in Gaelic football for many years to come.
just a pity hes a bleddy kerryman !
QuoteIf he stays fit and healthy, Tommy W will be THE star player in Gaelic football for many years to come.
I'd say Sean Cavanagh might have something to say about that, but since he isn't a Kerry or Dublin player his achievements haven't & won't send the press into orgasms.
Not in agreement with some of the selection and I'll go through it in totality.
Gary Connaughton - fair enough. A few others could have had a shout but no major disagreement.
Conor Gormley - no major argument. Always marked the most dangerous opponent and did well all year.
Justing McMahon - agree. Was a vital cog in Tyrone's success.
John Keane - had a fine year and deserves the award. Though defo no better than Ross Donovan the year before.
Davy Harte - no argument. His best year ever.
Tomás Ó Sé - deserved one alright. Kerry's best back.
Phillip Jordan - had a fine year too so no arguments.
Enda McGinley - best midfielder in the country last year.
Shane Ryan - despite some good games not in the top two midfielders last year. Morrissey, O'Sé or O'Neill more deserving.
Brian Dooher - no argument here. Had one or two mediocre games but was unreal when it really mattered.
Declan O'Sullivan - might get flak here but I wouldn't have picked him. Padraig Joyce defo and possibly Red Barry had better years.
Seán Cavanagh - totally wrong to pick him here. Was clearly the standout FF in the game last year. Would have put O'Sullivan or Red Barry here as suggested earlier.
Colm Cooper - disagree with this selection. I have never seen him have a worse year. Never thought I'd see him kick the wides he did. Was still good but Lyng/Forde/T. Walsh had better years.
Kieran Donaghy - Didn't set the world on fire as before at FF and much of his good work this year was done farther out the field. Still had a fine year but not enough for a spot on this team. Cavanagh in here.
Ronan Clarke - no arguments with this selection.
So that's my take for what its worth.
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 16, 2008, 11:01:20 AM
Conor Gormley - no major argument. Always marked the most dangerous opponent and did well all year.
I'd agree with most of that outside of Gormley, who hada poor year imho. very poor both days against down, particularly in the replay, poor against w meath, average against dublin (lucky brogan got injured), decent against wexford and poor in the final on the gooch.
McMenamin had a much more consistent year
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 16, 2008, 11:01:20 AM
Colm Cooper - disagree with this selection. I have never seen him have a worse year. Never thought I'd see him kick the wides he did. Was still good but Lyng/Forde/T. Walsh had better years.
Cripes, if Cooper had a bad year I'd hate to see him have a good one. Was central to all of Kerrys good moves this year, incl. later on against Galway when the going was getting tougher plus late in the replay v. Cork.
He also gave Gormley a torrid time in the first half of the final (When the ball was kicked to him!)
Quote from: The GAA on October 16, 2008, 11:38:41 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 16, 2008, 11:01:20 AM
Conor Gormley - no major argument. Always marked the most dangerous opponent and did well all year.
I'd agree with most of that outside of Gormley, who hada poor year imho. very poor both days against down, particularly in the replay, poor against w meath, average against dublin (lucky brogan got injured), decent against wexford and poor in the final on the gooch.
McMenamin had a much more consistent year
Totally disagree with the criticism of Gormley and to suggest he had a "poor year" is quite ridiculous. The only bit above I could come close to agreeing with would be the Down games in which he played with an injury which severly affected his mobility. For the rest he was a key member of the Tyrone defence. The Gooch might have started well against him in the final but Conor held him pretty well overall.
Take Conor Gormley out of that Tyrone defence and they would have been struggling, a fantastic player who more than deserved his All-Star. It was a complete farce he didnt get one last year when he was the best defender in the championship.
Very happy for Davey Harte and Enda McGinley who would have been unsung heroes to some extent over the last few years.
Quote from: mouview on October 16, 2008, 10:22:59 AM
P Joyce distinctly unlucky I feel with honourable mentions to Meehan and T Walsh - Martin Brehony had been pushing hard for PJ I heard.
That's the sort of gombeenism and finagling for one's own county that undermines what should be a genuine honours sytem for players at the end of each season. That and the tokenism (Dublin get at least one Allstar every year without fail) and the nostlagia selections and the nods to celebrity (Donaghy). It's encouraging at least that there doesn't seem to be the slavish adherence to provincial champions getting awards because they don't
always deserve awards but whether that's errant in this years case for Cork's O'Neill and Galway's Joyce and Meehan, is another argument.
I'd say the Allstars meetings is just an annual jollyup for the journos every year. It's basically worthless in my opinion because it's so riddled with grey areas and anomalies with players shunted from Billy to Jack and back again to squeeze them in somewhere - the selection committe is supposed to make the hard calls on these close-run things for specific positions, not the soft ones by shoehorning everyone in to avoid doing the work they're there to do.
The year they tried to get the players to vote for the awards themsevles, the journos took a childish sulk and wouldn't publicise it properly until they got their gig back. Nuff said.
Quote from: mouview on October 16, 2008, 11:50:56 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 16, 2008, 11:01:20 AM
Colm Cooper - disagree with this selection. I have never seen him have a worse year. Never thought I'd see him kick the wides he did. Was still good but Lyng/Forde/T. Walsh had better years.
Cripes, if Cooper had a bad year I'd hate to see him have a good one. Was central to all of Kerrys good moves this year, incl. later on against Galway when the going was getting tougher plus late in the replay v. Cork.
I actually said he was good if you read it, just not good by his standards. I think his fellow forwards actually gave him a dig out when he was playing a bit below par and gave him a few handy scores to get his confidence up. Brilliant player but not deserving of an allstar this year I think.
I would argue that it's better to 'fit in' the players who have performed best throughout the year, than to pick a player, because nobody else played better than him in that position! ala the goal keeper situation this year! (This is the only position that you have to continue with this method!) or becasuse their team got so far!
Quote from: cavanmaniac on October 16, 2008, 12:30:27 PM
Quote from: mouview on October 16, 2008, 10:22:59 AM
P Joyce distinctly unlucky I feel with honourable mentions to Meehan and T Walsh - Martin Brehony had been pushing hard for PJ I heard.
That and the tokenism (Dublin get at least one Allstar every year without fail)
Really ? So what about?
71,72,73, 80,81,82,86,90,97,98,00,03,04,05
The issue I want to know in relation to the award is what emphasis they put on how all star nominees played when playing against fellow all star nominees. I may be wrong on this but did Forde not play against more nominees than at least two of the actual selected forwards and was this refelected in the dicussions.
QuoteIndeed. Sean Cavanagh scored 6 points more than Donaghy & Walsh put together in the championship. If they were so desperate to give Donaghy an award throw him into another position, but at least name Cavanagh at No. 14 to refect how much more superior he was in that position to any other player.
I think it's time that they do away with postions as they've become a joke and just name the best keeper, 6 best backs, 2 best midfielders and 6 best forwards in that year.
Well said. Naming Cavanagh at 12 instead of 14 is strange and in a way is degrading his performances at FF. Cooper deserved one, but Donaghy didn't simple as that. I thought Shane Ryan was immense in the Leinster Final and was very good all year. I would agree with you that it should be simply the top 6 forwards and defenders, plus the midfielders and keeper selected.
Quote from: Gnevin on October 16, 2008, 12:49:38 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on October 16, 2008, 12:30:27 PM
Quote from: mouview on October 16, 2008, 10:22:59 AM
P Joyce distinctly unlucky I feel with honourable mentions to Meehan and T Walsh - Martin Brehony had been pushing hard for PJ I heard.
That and the tokenism (Dublin get at least one Allstar every year without fail)
Really ? So what about?
71,72,73, 80,81,82,86,90,97,98,00,03,04,05
That's me told Gnevin, I guess I was thinking of the Cluxton inclusions in more recent years. I can't see how a guy so dodgy under a dropping ball has won three Allstars.
It seems that if an Allstar decision seems marginal or sometimes less than marginal, I always feel they plump for the Dub in most cases.
Anyway my post wasn't about Dubs per se, more a comment on the genral haphazardry of the selection process.
I honestly thought Ryan deserved one.
Mc Ginley was naturally the stand out midfielder of the year, but I felt Ryan performed better that the other nominees.
Quote from: Lamh Dhearg Alba on October 16, 2008, 11:57:18 AM
Quote from: The GAA on October 16, 2008, 11:38:41 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 16, 2008, 11:01:20 AM
Conor Gormley - no major argument. Always marked the most dangerous opponent and did well all year.
I'd agree with most of that outside of Gormley, who hada poor year imho. very poor both days against down, particularly in the replay, poor against w meath, average against dublin (lucky brogan got injured), decent against wexford and poor in the final on the gooch.
McMenamin had a much more consistent year
Totally disagree with the criticism of Gormley and to suggest he had a "poor year" is quite ridiculous. The only bit above I could come close to agreeing with would be the Down games in which he played with an injury which severly affected his mobility. For the rest he was a key member of the Tyrone defence. The Gooch might have started well against him in the final but Conor held him pretty well overall.
Take Conor Gormley out of that Tyrone defence and they would have been struggling, a fantastic player who more than deserved his All-Star. It was a complete farce he didnt get one last year when he was the best defender in the championship.
Very happy for Davey Harte and Enda McGinley who would have been unsung heroes to some extent over the last few years.
McMenamin had a much more consistent year
I thought Ricey had a better year than Gormley, Gormley looked way of the pace against Down, he constantly fouled Mortimer in Croker and he was cleaned by the Gooch in the final!
Canavan's omission was a disgrace. His articles on the Hoganstand website coupled with his insight in the Mirror were a delight to behold and increased in quality as the season progressed. On TV3 his increased sharpness was a revelation and anyone who thinks otherwise knows nothing. Shame.
Quote from: ONeill on October 16, 2008, 01:31:19 PM
Canavan's omission was a disgrace. His articles on the Hoganstand website coupled with his insight in the Mirror were a delight to behold and increased in quality as the season progressed. On TV3 his increased sharpness was a revelation and anyone who thinks otherwise knows nothing. Shame.
Well he deserved it as much this year, than his last one! ;)
Quote from: under the bar on October 15, 2008, 10:53:38 PM
Ryan at midfield? Wise up. Nomination like that shame the awards.
I dont care what county the guy is from, thats a terrible insult to a guy who gives his all for the GAA, and many on here acknowledge was immense this year for his team.
Argue that someone else deserved it by all means, but to say it "shamed the awards" is an insult and shames nobody or nothing but yourself.
[quoteThat's me told Gnevin, I guess I was thinking of the Cluxton inclusions in more recent years. I can't see how a guy so dodgy under a dropping ball has won three Allstars.][/quote]
Cluxton has 3 all-stars??? Christ on a bike!! Unless the AI finalist and semi-finalist keepers had nightmares in both games how would Cluxton get three?
Quote from: cavanmaniac on October 16, 2008, 01:13:41 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on October 16, 2008, 12:49:38 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on October 16, 2008, 12:30:27 PM
Quote from: mouview on October 16, 2008, 10:22:59 AM
P Joyce distinctly unlucky I feel with honourable mentions to Meehan and T Walsh - Martin Brehony had been pushing hard for PJ I heard.
That and the tokenism (Dublin get at least one Allstar every year without fail)
Really ? So what about?
71,72,73, 80,81,82,86,90,97,98,00,03,04,05
That's me told Gnevin, I guess I was thinking of the Cluxton inclusions in more recent years. I can't see how a guy so dodgy under a dropping ball has won three Allstars.
It seems that if an Allstar decision seems marginal or sometimes less than marginal, I always feel they plump for the Dub in most cases.
Anyway my post wasn't about Dubs per se, more a comment on the genral haphazardry of the selection process.
So you've decided to give up tainting Ryan's all-star and now your trying to taint Cluxton's. He is one of the best in the country and has deserved his All-star's in each season he was awarded one . He has preformed some great stops to keep Dublin in games and over all was head and shoulders ahead of the rest .
Why don't you go talk about Kerry's haphazardly awarded All-stars ::)
Quote from: under the bar on October 16, 2008, 01:41:03 PM
QuoteThat's me told Gnevin, I guess I was thinking of the Cluxton inclusions in more recent years. I can't see how a guy so dodgy under a dropping ball has won three Allstars.]
Cluxton has 3 all-stars??? Christ on a bike!! Unless the AI finalist and semi-finalist keepers had nightmares in both games how would Cluxton get three?
2002 All Star (football) Great season
2006 All Star (football) Great season + Mayo final keeper taken apart
2007 All Star (football) Great season + Cork in final keeper taken apart
So who should of gotten the All-star ahead of him?
Andy Reid (sorry Hardy, couldn't resist!).
Quote from: Gnevin on October 16, 2008, 01:45:46 PM
Quote from: under the bar on October 16, 2008, 01:41:03 PM
QuoteThat's me told Gnevin, I guess I was thinking of the Cluxton inclusions in more recent years. I can't see how a guy so dodgy under a dropping ball has won three Allstars.]
Cluxton has 3 all-stars??? Christ on a bike!! Unless the AI finalist and semi-finalist keepers had nightmares in both games how would Cluxton get three?
2002 All Star (football) Great season
2006 All Star (football) Great season + Mayo final keeper taken apart
2007 All Star (football) Great season + Cork in final keeper taken apart
So who should of gotten the All-star ahead of him?
I think Ryan deserves his but i think Cluxton should have got another one!
Quote from: Gnevin on October 16, 2008, 01:45:46 PM
Quote from: under the bar on October 16, 2008, 01:41:03 PM
QuoteThat's me told Gnevin, I guess I was thinking of the Cluxton inclusions in more recent years. I can't see how a guy so dodgy under a dropping ball has won three Allstars.]
Cluxton has 3 all-stars??? Christ on a bike!! Unless the AI finalist and semi-finalist keepers had nightmares in both games how would Cluxton get three?
2002 All Star (football) Great season
2006 All Star (football) Great season + Mayo final keeper taken apart
2007 All Star (football) Great season + Cork in final keeper taken apart
So who should of gotten the All-star ahead of him?
I don't know how you could say David Clarke was taking apart in 2006 yes he let in the goals but he had fcuk all chance of saving any of them it wasn't like he made mistakes like quirke did in 2007. So judging by your comment if you have a superb season but let in 3 goals in a final you have no chance of getting an All star so as a player you would be better to play fewer higher profile games thus eliminating your chances of making mistakes ensuring you get the award . Also can't understand how ricey didn't get an award if there was ever a player who drove tyrone on this year it was him.
QuoteSo who should of gotten the All-star ahead of him?
2002 - Benny Tierney? After all Armagh had the most miserly defence in the championship.
2006 - Dublin only made the quarters! Any one of 8 keepers could have got the nod!
2007 - Diarmuid Murphy?
Quote from: under the bar on October 16, 2008, 02:06:32 PM
QuoteSo who should of gotten the All-star ahead of him?
2002 - Benny Tierney? After all Armagh had the most miserly defence in the championship.
2006 - Dublin only made the quarters! Any one of 8 keepers could have got the nod!
2007 - Diarmuid Murphy?
No they made the semi 's that year utb
Quote from: the Deel Rover on October 16, 2008, 02:05:32 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on October 16, 2008, 01:45:46 PM
Quote from: under the bar on October 16, 2008, 01:41:03 PM
QuoteThat's me told Gnevin, I guess I was thinking of the Cluxton inclusions in more recent years. I can't see how a guy so dodgy under a dropping ball has won three Allstars.]
Cluxton has 3 all-stars??? Christ on a bike!! Unless the AI finalist and semi-finalist keepers had nightmares in both games how would Cluxton get three?
2002 All Star (football) Great season
2006 All Star (football) Great season + Mayo final keeper taken apart
2007 All Star (football) Great season + Cork in final keeper taken apart
So who should of gotten the All-star ahead of him?
I don't know how you could say David Clarke was taking apart in 2006 yes he let in the goals but he had fcuk all chance of saving any of them it wasn't like he made mistakes like quirke did in 2007. So judging by your comment if you have a superb season but let in 3 goals in a final you have no chance of getting an All star so as a player you would be better to play fewer higher profile games thus eliminating your chances of making mistakes ensuring you get the award . Also can't understand how ricey didn't get an award if there was ever a player who drove tyrone on this year it was him.
Sorry your right , Clarke didn't have much chance but the 3 goals is what would stick I people's minds . The all-stars are subjective but that year it was a toss up between him and Cluxton
Quote from: under the bar on October 16, 2008, 02:06:32 PM
QuoteSo who should of gotten the All-star ahead of him?
2002 - Benny Tierney? After all Armagh had the most miserly defence in the championship.
2006 - Dublin only made the quarters! Any one of 8 keepers could have got the nod!
2007 - Diarmuid Murphy?
Trouble for Kerry keepers is their defence is too good and they rarely get called on to preform great saves like Cluxton and others
UTB are you saying he didn't deserve any of his all stars?
Quote from: the Deel Rover on October 16, 2008, 02:08:37 PM
Quote from: under the bar on October 16, 2008, 02:06:32 PM
QuoteSo who should of gotten the All-star ahead of him?
2002 - Benny Tierney? After all Armagh had the most miserly defence in the championship.
2006 - Dublin only made the quarters! Any one of 8 keepers could have got the nod!
2007 - Diarmuid Murphy?
No they made the semi 's that year utb
sure what did Gary Connaughton do to deserve it this year?
If a player is considered for an all-star despite his team emilinated at the quarter-final stage, then the performances in the semis and final of those challenging for the same all-star should never go against them.
Better still, why not ban Dublin players from nominations for All-stars?
Only then would Under the bar be happy.
At this stage i'd say the players would appreciate the gpa award more at least its picked by your peers not by the journalist who are bound to have preferences also it seems to be picked on the position that you played in like for e.g they didn't g move Kavanagh out to half forward in order to accomadate donaghy did they?
Quote from: Tankie on October 16, 2008, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on October 16, 2008, 02:08:37 PM
Quote from: under the bar on October 16, 2008, 02:06:32 PM
QuoteSo who should of gotten the All-star ahead of him?
2002 - Benny Tierney? After all Armagh had the most miserly defence in the championship.
2006 - Dublin only made the quarters! Any one of 8 keepers could have got the nod!
2007 - Diarmuid Murphy?
No they made the semi 's that year utb
sure what did Gary Connaughton do to deserve it this year?
Get abused in all four games against the Jackeens and not do a Cantona...
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 16, 2008, 02:19:15 PM
Quote from: Tankie on October 16, 2008, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on October 16, 2008, 02:08:37 PM
Quote from: under the bar on October 16, 2008, 02:06:32 PM
QuoteSo who should of gotten the All-star ahead of him?
2002 - Benny Tierney? After all Armagh had the most miserly defence in the championship.
2006 - Dublin only made the quarters! Any one of 8 keepers could have got the nod!
2007 - Diarmuid Murphy?
No they made the semi 's that year utb
sure what did Gary Connaughton do to deserve it this year?
Get abused in all four games against the Jackeens and not do a Cantona...
This is the abuse only you heard right?
Quotesure what did Gary Connaughton do to deserve it this year?
Nothing spectacular just like Cluxton, however if he ended up with 3 all-stars in the next few years, his team having won feck-all worth talking about, never mind not even made the AIF, then questions would be asked as well.
Quote from: under the bar on October 16, 2008, 02:25:18 PM
Quotesure what did Gary Connaughton do to deserve it this year?
Nothing spectacular just like Cluxton, however if he ended up with 3 all-stars in the next few years, his team having won feck-all worth talking about, never mind not even made the AIF, then questions would be asked as well.
i think you will find Cluxton has 4 leinster medals to his name. hardly feck all now!!!!!!
Quote from: Tankie on October 16, 2008, 02:27:15 PM
Quote from: under the bar on October 16, 2008, 02:25:18 PM
Quotesure what did Gary Connaughton do to deserve it this year?
Nothing spectacular just like Cluxton, however if he ended up with 3 all-stars in the next few years, his team having won feck-all worth talking about, never mind not even made the AIF, then questions would be asked as well.
i think you will find Cluxton has 4 leinster medals to his name. hardly feck all now!!!!!!
i'm not getting in on the did cluxton deserve an all star debate however i think provincial titles mean feck all these days sure look at the all stars only 2 players on the team won a provincial medal this year.
Quote from: the Deel Rover on October 16, 2008, 02:30:36 PM
Quote from: Tankie on October 16, 2008, 02:27:15 PM
Quote from: under the bar on October 16, 2008, 02:25:18 PM
Quotesure what did Gary Connaughton do to deserve it this year?
Nothing spectacular just like Cluxton, however if he ended up with 3 all-stars in the next few years, his team having won feck-all worth talking about, never mind not even made the AIF, then questions would be asked as well.
i think you will find Cluxton has 4 leinster medals to his name. hardly feck all now!!!!!!
i'm not getting in on the did cluxton deserve an all star debate however i think provincial titles mean feck all these days sure look at the all stars only 2 players on the team won a provincial medal this year.
well i believe Gary Connaughton did little to deserve an AS and cluxton should have been ahead of him.
Perhaps ahead of him but certainly behind a couple others.
Quote from: Gnevin on October 16, 2008, 02:23:02 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 16, 2008, 02:19:15 PM
Quote from: Tankie on October 16, 2008, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on October 16, 2008, 02:08:37 PM
Quote from: under the bar on October 16, 2008, 02:06:32 PM
QuoteSo who should of gotten the All-star ahead of him?
2002 - Benny Tierney? After all Armagh had the most miserly defence in the championship.
2006 - Dublin only made the quarters! Any one of 8 keepers could have got the nod!
2007 - Diarmuid Murphy?
No they made the semi 's that year utb
sure what did Gary Connaughton do to deserve it this year?
Get abused in all four games against the Jackeens and not do a Cantona...
This is the abuse only you heard right?
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=9461.msg396798#msg396798 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=9461.msg396798#msg396798)
Quotei think you will find Cluxton has 4 leinster medals to his name.
So by that reckoning 4 or 5 of the Armagh panel should have 7 all-stars.
I think you've a bit of a persecution complex there Gnevin, wasn't trying to taint anyone's Allstar, just using the Dubs as ONE reference point for the wider purpose of highlighting some of the grey areas in selection. Plenty more counties have won Allstars because of the other anomalies I pointed out, not just the Dubs, Kerry as well if it makes you happy to hear me say it. Practically all counties in fact although I'm fairly sure Cavan's two were deserved.
I'll still maintain though that any goalkeeper as flap-happy and insecure under a high dropping ball - which strikes me as a fairly fundamental flaw in an intercounty gaelic football goalkeeper never mind an Allstar one - is doing mighty well to win three awards. Cluxton's a good shot-stopper for sure but not a good overall 'keeper in my opinion, I also think it's somewhat mindless to put him in goals for the International Rules as well and I'm glad he's not there this year even if the current incumbent is a flawed selection there as well!
First of all, well done to all the winners. By & large I'd agree with most of the winners. But 2 from Westmeath???? Also how Shane Ryan got the second mid-field birth ahead of Enda Mc Ginley is beyond me. As a poser, if your were to compose a team to play the All-Star team with a realistic chance of beating them, who would you pick
My Team
James Reilly (Cavan).
Finian Hanley (Galway), Anthony Lynch (Cork), Marc O Se (Kerry).
Ciaran Mc Keever (Armagh) Ryan McMenamin (Tyrone), Ryan McCluskey (Fermanagh
Enda McGinley (Tyrone), Darragh O'Se
Redmond Barry (Wexford), Pearse O'Neill (Cork), Padraic Joyce (Galway)
Tommy Walsh (Kerry), S Mc Donnell(Armagh), Michael Meehan (Galway).
Quote from: BerfArmagh on October 16, 2008, 03:12:13 PM
Also how Shane Ryan got the second mid-field birth ahead of Enda Mc Ginley is beyond me.
Have I missed something? Did they take McGinley's off him?
Quote from: BerfArmagh on October 16, 2008, 03:12:13 PM
Also how Shane Ryan got the second mid-field birth ahead of Enda Mc Ginley is beyond me.
Eh ???
Quote from: BerfArmagh on October 16, 2008, 03:12:13 PM
First of all, well done to all the winners. By & large I'd agree with most of the winners. But 2 from Westmeath???? Also how Shane Ryan got the second mid-field birth ahead of Enda Mc Ginley is beyond me. As a poser, if your were to compose a team to play the All-Star team with a realistic chance of beating them, who would you pick
My Team
James Reilly (Cavan).
Finian Hanley (Galway), Anthony Lynch (Cork), Marc O Se (Kerry).
Ciaran Mc Keever (Armagh) Ryan McMenamin (Tyrone), Ryan McCluskey (Fermanagh
Enda McGinley (Tyrone), Darragh O'Se
Redmond Barry (Wexford), Pearse O'Neill (Cork), Padraic Joyce (Galway)
Tommy Walsh (Kerry), S Mc Donnell(Armagh), Michael Meehan (Galway).
Fair point Berf - McGinely is so good, that only himself could mark himself.
Berf - did Enda McGinley not get an All Star? Also, if I was picking a team that would play and beat the All-Star selection, it would be:
Ronan Gallagher (Fermanagh).
Keith Higgins (Mayo), Joe McMahon (Tyrone), Marc O Se (Kerry).
Ryan McMenamin (Tyrone) Ryan McCloskey (Fermanagh), Aaron Kernan (Armagh)
Ciaran Whelan (Dublin), Darragh O'Se (Kerry)
Paul Galvin (Kerry), Ciaran McDonald (Mayo), Tommy Walsh (Kerry)
Paddy Bradley (Derry), Benny Coulter(Down), Michael Meehan (Galway).
The below players all would all be worth a slot in the team above:
Kevin McGuckin
Steven O'Neill
Padraic Joyce
Fergal Doherty
Dessie Mone
Dick Clerkin
Tommy Freeman
Stevie McDonnell
Paul McGrane
Seamus Scannell
Enda Muldoon
Mattie Forde
Anthony Lynch
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on October 16, 2008, 01:32:57 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 16, 2008, 01:31:19 PM
Canavan's omission was a disgrace. His articles on the Hoganstand website coupled with his insight in the Mirror were a delight to behold and increased in quality as the season progressed. On TV3 his increased sharpness was a revelation and anyone who thinks otherwise knows nothing. Shame.
Well he deserved it as much this year, than his last one! ;)
well maybe, after all he ONLY scored the winning point in the AISF and then followed up with one of the classic AI Final goals and a clinching point from the corner flag, as they said on TV ....."cometh the hour , cometh the man!!!"
ok i missed mc ginley
I can't believe Ryan got one in front of Shane Ryan ;D
Quote from: cadhlancian on October 16, 2008, 03:38:36 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on October 16, 2008, 01:32:57 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 16, 2008, 01:31:19 PM
Canavan's omission was a disgrace. His articles on the Hoganstand website coupled with his insight in the Mirror were a delight to behold and increased in quality as the season progressed. On TV3 his increased sharpness was a revelation and anyone who thinks otherwise knows nothing. Shame.
Well he deserved it as much this year, than his last one! ;)
well maybe, after all he ONLY scored the winning point in the AISF and then followed up with one of the classic AI Final goals and a clinching point from the corner flag, as they said on TV ....."cometh the hour , cometh the man!!!"
2 points and a goal... you're right most deserved!
They might have to start givng out more than 15...
Quote from: cavanmaniac on October 16, 2008, 03:00:57 PM
I think you've a bit of a persecution complex there Gnevin, wasn't trying to taint anyone's Allstar, just using the Dubs as ONE reference point for the wider purpose of highlighting some of the grey areas in selection. Plenty more counties have won Allstars because of the other anomalies I pointed out, not just the Dubs, Kerry as well if it makes you happy to hear me say it. Practically all counties in fact although I'm fairly sure Cavan's two were deserved.
I'll still maintain though that any goalkeeper as flap-happy and insecure under a high dropping ball - which strikes me as a fairly fundamental flaw in an intercounty gaelic football goalkeeper never mind an Allstar one - is doing mighty well to win three awards. Cluxton's a good shot-stopper for sure but not a good overall 'keeper in my opinion, I also think it's somewhat mindless to put him in goals for the International Rules as well and I'm glad he's not there this year even if the current incumbent is a flawed selection there as well!
So saying a player only got an All -Star to meet a quota and not based on performance is not a tainted at all . Sorry i must of been confused . Saying a players 3 AS where not deserved also not a taint ! Jasus am getting well mixed up today ::)
What?!?! Cluxton doesn't even make this team? Outrage!
Quote from: Hardy on October 16, 2008, 03:48:19 PM
What?!?! Cluxton doesn't even make this team? Outrage!
::)
Quote from: Hardy on October 16, 2008, 03:48:19 PM
What?!?! Cluxton doesn't even make this team? Outrage!
the selection committe has bottled it hardy fecking bottled it you know it , i know it and johnny Giles knows it ;)
Quote from: Gnevin on October 16, 2008, 03:48:05 PM
So saying a player only got an All -Star to meet a quota and not based on performance is not a tainted at all . Sorry i must of been confused . Saying a players 3 AS where not deserved also not a taint ! Jasus am getting well mixed up today ::)
Tainted's awful sinister stuff altogether, that's not what my intention was, I rather wanted to offer a comment on the wider selection process in general as opposed to attacking some player personally, which you're oddly keen to infer I was doing.
Can I take it you'd reckon that all Allstar selections are above board and flawless, with no nudge and wink stuff going on in the background? Or is it only in the Dubs' case that the selections are always right and proper?
Sigh, sure every discussion has to be about the Dubs, eh? ;)
Quote from: cavanmaniac on October 16, 2008, 04:34:01 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on October 16, 2008, 03:48:05 PM
So saying a player only got an All -Star to meet a quota and not based on performance is not a tainted at all . Sorry i must of been confused . Saying a players 3 AS where not deserved also not a taint ! Jasus am getting well mixed up today ::)
Tainted's awful sinister stuff altogether, that's not what my intention was, I rather wanted to offer a comment on the wider selection process in general as opposed to attacking some player personally, which you're oddly keen to infer I was doing.
Can I take it you'd reckon that all Allstar selections are above board and flawless, with no nudge and wink stuff going on in the background? Or is it only in the Dubs' case that the selections are always right and proper?
Sigh, sure every discussion has to be about the Dubs, eh? ;)
Well I'll take your word for it that you where only contesting the selection process but try not throw around stuff like " That and the tokenism (Dublin get at least one All-star every year without fail)" when it's clearly no true .
No every discussion has to be about the Nordies ;)
Quote from: Gnevin on October 16, 2008, 04:38:50 PM
No every discussion has to be about the Nordies
Now that we can agree on.
Congrats to all 15. Fair dues to the 2 Westmeath lads. Commiserations to Wexford & Cork.
Quote from: Mentalman on October 16, 2008, 05:09:24 PM
Commiserations to Wexford & Cork.
Is that referring to the all stars or just to the people in general? :D
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 16, 2008, 03:30:03 PM
Berf - did Enda McGinley not get an All Star? Also, if I was picking a team that would play and beat the All-Star selection, it would be:
Ronan Gallagher (Fermanagh).
Keith Higgins (Mayo), Joe McMahon (Tyrone), Marc O Se (Kerry).
Ryan McMenamin (Tyrone) Ryan McCloskey (Fermanagh), Aaron Kernan (Armagh)
Ciaran Whelan (Dublin), Darragh O'Se (Kerry)
Paul Galvin (Kerry), Ciaran McDonald (Mayo), Tommy Walsh (Kerry)
Paddy Bradley (Derry), Benny Coulter(Down), Michael Meehan (Galway).
The below players all would all be worth a slot in the team above:
Kevin McGuckin
Steven O'Neill
Padraic Joyce
Fergal Doherty
Dessie Mone
Dick Clerkin
Tommy Freeman
Stevie McDonnell
Paul McGrane
Seamus Scannell
Enda Muldoon
Mattie Forde
Anthony Lynch
Paul Galvin (Kerry), Ciaran McDonald (Mayo)..................Brilliant, yes Galvin deserves one this year. And why hasn't Stevie O'Neill not been rewarded for his 40 mins.
And where is Cluxton ?
Was tryin to look it up there but no joy, does anyone kno who had the most all-star awards?Player like..
Spillane as footballer (9)
DJ in hurling (9) - Shefflin to equal that tomorrow night.
Keher 9 in total
IMO Meehan should have got one in front of Donaghy, I think that's a bigger scandal than any of the other calls made on here.
Keher 9 in total... you have worded that like all his 9 are not in hurling??
Sort of All-Stars and pre-All-Star All-Stars
Ah, I wasn't aware there were pre-allstar allstars.
QuotePaul Galvin (Kerry), Ciaran McDonald (Mayo)..................Brilliant, yes Galvin deserves one this year. And why hasn't Stevie O'Neill not been rewarded for his 40 mins.
Thats simply a team that would give the All-star team a run for their money and probably beat them.
Quote from: glens73 on October 16, 2008, 08:37:35 PM
IMO Meehan should have got one in front of Donaghy, I think that's a bigger scandal than any of the other calls made on here.
Like I said, there are frequent nods to celebrity/past reputations in these awards, largely they're best taken with a pinch of salt. I don't really see what Donaghy did to earn an Allstar.
As part of the All-Stars Cermony tonight, RTE arranged to come to Clongeen GAA Club (Wexford Co Champions) and do a live outside broadcast section of the programme from there. The Secretary of Clongeen sent an invitation out to all Clubs in the County inviting the Chairman and Secretary to come and join in their evening of celebration.
I wonder are RTE still going?
Who got player of the year?
Cavanagh, YPOY was Tommy Walsh.
Cheers Zulu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrDKhsDDz1g
Looks like he's blowing the ball as well. V suspicious.
I'm not going to look back over the thread to see if anyone is calling for Connacht to 'take a break' to get the house in order? After all, isn't it 2 years in a row that no-one from the province even got an all-star?
Quote from: ONeill on October 17, 2008, 11:22:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrDKhsDDz1g
Good to see Tom O'Sullivan get an All-Star at centre forward after all the tough times he had in the full back line all year.
Ryan at centre field this year is the token Dub All-Star for the year, no justification for this. Donaghy at full forward is a puzzling one too.
Davy Harte getting no. 5 is a kick in the goolies to all them whining Tyronies who were calling for his removal this year....shame on you all......may ye hang your heads in shame. >:(
Quote from: dodo on October 18, 2008, 01:19:01 AM
Quote from: ONeill on October 17, 2008, 11:22:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrDKhsDDz1g
Good to see Tom O'Sullivan get an All-Star at centre forward after all the tough times he had in the full back line all year.
Ryan at centre field this year is the token Dub All-Star for the year, no justification for this. Donaghy at full forward is a puzzling one too.
Davy Harte getting no. 5 is a kick in the goolies to all them whining Tyronies who were calling for his removal this year....shame on you all......may ye hang your heads in shame. >:(
Great a other idiot who wants to taint Ryan's All- Star , I don't see you picking at Westmeath's two ::)
The GAA has finalised a list of 32 of the country's top football players to travel to San Francisco for a challenge match next week.
The GAA Vodafone All stars of 2008 will play the pick of 2007 in the city which hosted the very first GAA All Stars tour in 1972.
Fourteen players have been added to the football All Stars tour as replacements for players who are unable to travel due to work/personal commitments and as injury cover.
GAA President Nickey Brennan hailed the event and said: ' The GAA All Stars tour is not just about honouring the stars of the game in any given year but it is also very special for Irish people living in host cities as they can get a real slice of home, which is all the more special coming up to Christmas.
'We are very excited about the tour and I know that the players are really looking forward to the break and also to the game. There will be a very warm welcome for them and I have no doubt they will be wonderful ambassadors for the Association.'
The 2008 All Stars travelling party is:
2007 All Stars: Marc Ó Sé, Darragh Ó Sé and Colm Cooper (Kerry); Kevin McCloy and Paddy Bradley (Derry); Graham Canty (Cork); Barry Cahill (Dublin); Stephen Bray (Meath); Tommy Freeman (Monaghan).
2008 All Stars: Conor Gormley, Justin McMahon, Brian Dooher, Seán Cavanagh, Davy Harte and Enda McGinley (Tyrone); Gary Connaughton and John Keane (Westmeath); Shane Ryan (Dublin).
Replacements: Michael Cussen, Nicholas Murphy and Donncha O'Connor (Cork); Redmond Barry and Ciaran Lyng (Wexford); Ryan McCluskey and Martin McGrath (Fermanagh); Ryan McMenamin and Colm McCullagh (Tyrone); David Henry (Dublin); Seamus Scanlon (Kerry); John Doyle (Kildare); Brendan Murphy (Meath); and Dessie Mone (Monaghan)
Quote from: orangeman on November 26, 2008, 04:46:05 PM
The GAA has finalised a list of 32 of the country's top football players to travel to San Francisco for a challenge match next week.
The GAA Vodafone All stars of 2008 will play the pick of 2007 in the city which hosted the very first GAA All Stars tour in 1972.
Fourteen players have been added to the football All Stars tour as replacements for players who are unable to travel due to work/personal commitments and as injury cover.
GAA President Nickey Brennan hailed the event and said: ' The GAA All Stars tour is not just about honouring the stars of the game in any given year but it is also very special for Irish people living in host cities as they can get a real slice of home, which is all the more special coming up to Christmas.
'We are very excited about the tour and I know that the players are really looking forward to the break and also to the game. There will be a very warm welcome for them and I have no doubt they will be wonderful ambassadors for the Association.'
The 2008 All Stars travelling party is:
2007 All Stars: Marc Ó Sé, Darragh Ó Sé and Colm Cooper (Kerry); Kevin McCloy and Paddy Bradley (Derry); Graham Canty (Cork); Barry Cahill (Dublin); Stephen Bray (Meath); Tommy Freeman (Monaghan).
2008 All Stars: Conor Gormley, Justin McMahon, Brian Dooher, Seán Cavanagh, Davy Harte and Enda McGinley (Tyrone); Gary Connaughton and John Keane (Westmeath); Shane Ryan (Dublin).
Replacements: Michael Cussen, Nicholas Murphy and Donncha O'Connor (Cork); Redmond Barry and Ciaran Lyng (Wexford); Ryan McCluskey and Martin McGrath (Fermanagh); Ryan McMenamin and Colm McCullagh (Tyrone); David Henry (Dublin); Seamus Scanlon (Kerry); John Doyle (Kildare); Brendan Murphy (Meath); and Dessie Mone (Monaghan)
That post is written like something you'd see on the text or a news site on the internet.
Quote from: drici on November 26, 2008, 05:28:54 PM
Quote from: orangeman on November 26, 2008, 04:46:05 PM
The GAA has finalised a list of 32 of the country's top football players to travel to San Francisco for a challenge match next week.
The GAA Vodafone All stars of 2008 will play the pick of 2007 in the city which hosted the very first GAA All Stars tour in 1972.
Fourteen players have been added to the football All Stars tour as replacements for players who are unable to travel due to work/personal commitments and as injury cover.
GAA President Nickey Brennan hailed the event and said: ' The GAA All Stars tour is not just about honouring the stars of the game in any given year but it is also very special for Irish people living in host cities as they can get a real slice of home, which is all the more special coming up to Christmas.
'We are very excited about the tour and I know that the players are really looking forward to the break and also to the game. There will be a very warm welcome for them and I have no doubt they will be wonderful ambassadors for the Association.'
The 2008 All Stars travelling party is:
2007 All Stars: Marc Ó Sé, Darragh Ó Sé and Colm Cooper (Kerry); Kevin McCloy and Paddy Bradley (Derry); Graham Canty (Cork); Barry Cahill (Dublin); Stephen Bray (Meath); Tommy Freeman (Monaghan).
2008 All Stars: Conor Gormley, Justin McMahon, Brian Dooher, Seán Cavanagh, Davy Harte and Enda McGinley (Tyrone); Gary Connaughton and John Keane (Westmeath); Shane Ryan (Dublin).
Replacements: Michael Cussen, Nicholas Murphy and Donncha O'Connor (Cork); Redmond Barry and Ciaran Lyng (Wexford); Ryan McCluskey and Martin McGrath (Fermanagh); Ryan McMenamin and Colm McCullagh (Tyrone); David Henry (Dublin); Seamus Scanlon (Kerry); John Doyle (Kildare); Brendan Murphy (Meath); and Dessie Mone (Monaghan)
That post is written like something you'd see on the text or a news site on the internet.
from hoganstand.com
Really?
Quote from: Uladh on November 26, 2008, 05:55:57 PM
Really?
that was to help out drici who had just posted!
Why does everything have to be so shagging ass backwards on the GAA website? They havnt even uploaded the 2008 allstar team yet. Im trying to find some information online about this years allstar game in San Francisco.
http://www.sfgaa.org/news/showArticle.php?article=85
Shane Ryan is a worthy recipient of an All-Star.
Puckoon Try sfgaa.com There is some info there.It's only a short spin down the road for you
Think Im going to go alright.
Looking forward to it.
Think they arrived today and are down in Johnny Foleys tonite.The Banquet on Sunday nite in the Irish Center is supposed to be a sellout.If youre driving stay in the left hand lane on the Bay Bridge.Bring the dog and I'll know you
I'm not coming down til Saturday afternoon. Heading to the plough and stars unless you can suggest a better spot for a bit of mingling.
I don't know whats on the agenda for them on Sat night.I've never been in the Plough and Stars but i think they do a lot of live music sessions there. Ireland's 32 is just round the corner on Geary,and the Abbey Tavern is right there as well so I'm sure you will be guided in the right direction. It looks like the rain is staying away for the weekend so that's good
I know, I know I know - its an exhibition game. A holiday for the lads, and a bit of craic and no one, wants to see anyone get hurt. Id like to see Dara O'Se field a ball however.
It was also like watching paint dry at times. The mass exodus at half time makes me feel I wasnt alone.
It just goes to show, that gaelic football without the thump, without the excitement and intensity (for which it is so often riddiculed) isnt an exhibition sport.
Still though, nice to see the lads pitchside having a great time and signing everything and anything that was needed.
Yer men Michael Cussen and Nicholas Murphy must ate a bag of spuds daily themselves. Cussen is massive.
Yea it wasn't exactly edge of seat stuff.... Great chance though to get to hang out and talk to them.
A bit disappointed at the dinner also in the fact that most all of them bar Paddy Bradley and Kevin McCloy
left to go down town at about 11... so didn't get as many photo's as I'd hoped :(
Great night all the same and not too hung over 8)
It was a bit on the chilly side and most had to go home and get ready for the banquet.It would have been more competitive if the Allstars were playing the All Ireland champions like they used to.They seemed to be a great bunch of lads.The field was in great shape and they say its bigger than Croke Park.It will have to be shrunk a little before Summer especially for 13 aside.The only bad thing was we missed a great Niner victory and we don't have many of them anymore
I was talking to the chairman of SF GAA and he told me that Treasure Island, where the pitch is , is sinking and needs to be underpinned.
Did you guys who attended the banquet in the UICC enjoy the venue? I was one of the volunteers who worked on it in the 70s.
The field is massive and there was talk in the stands about making the games in the bay 15 a side.
Why would they have undertaken such a huge investment on a field that is sinking? Surely thats a bad bit of foresight?
It was cold, no doubt.
Quote from: john mcgill on December 08, 2008, 07:07:36 PM
I was talking to the chairman of SF GAA and he told me that Treasure Island, where the pitch is , is sinking and needs to be underpinned.
Did you guys who attended the banquet in the UICC enjoy the venue? I was one of the volunteers who worked on it in the 70s.
Yes it was a great night and fair play to you John for your part in building it....
Tis a fine place no doubt but it's a pity about the old schoolers that run it,
The sooner some new blood is draughted in the better for the Irish community
living here.
I did hear some mumblings yesterday about the pitch sinking alright but she def looks the part anyway.
I understood it was just the sides of the field that sank not the island and that they were going to take care of it later on.It was an unusually large crowd at the Banquet and I thought the staff did a great job.The tables were so close you couldn't get in or out too easily
OK the game wasn't competitive (the scoreline of 8-13 to 4-10 says it all) but it was entertaining enough all the same. I suppose it depends on what you were expecting from a challenge game on an end-of-year trip. I was very pleasantly surprised they tried as hard as they did.
And a star-studded turnout in the middle of San Francisco bay, it would be very churlish to complain. I brought my 7-year-old and he was riveted by it. The players were all great with signing autographs. Conor Gormley even took the trouble to find Justin McNulty & point him out to me when I didn't recognize him (can't recognize any Tyrone players without the beards!).
Quote from: Fear ionad on December 09, 2008, 04:12:25 AM
Conor Gormley even took the trouble to find Justin McNulty & point him out to me when I didn't recognize him (can't recognize any Tyrone players without the beards!).
Fecking defector ;)
BTW, didny know Justy grew a beard
Quote from: Fear ionad on December 09, 2008, 04:12:25 AM
OK the game wasn't competitive (the scoreline of 8-13 to 4-10 says it all) but it was entertaining enough all the same. I suppose it depends on what you were expecting from a challenge game on an end-of-year trip. I was very pleasantly surprised they tried as hard as they did.
And a star-studded turnout in the middle of San Francisco bay, it would be very churlish to complain. I brought my 7-year-old and he was riveted by it. The players were all great with signing autographs. Conor Gormley even took the trouble to find Justin McNulty & point him out to me when I didn't recognize him (can't recognize any Tyrone players without the beards!).
how come justin mcnulty was there?
I'd imagine he meant Justy McMahon.
Yes. (In response to someone else's question, yes, people do read these posts.)