Should be deadly. A chance to send each other down? Will someone think of the children? Love across the barricades? 1000 white doves? 99 red balloons?
Kerry on relegation.
Kerry on Tyrone.
Cud boil over in a spit second
None if the troubledoors are likely to play. Dec Sullivan cooper, Galvin has a hair appointment that day and Ricey and mugsy are retired.
Do we have any such players any more?
is Block the only tough nut left?
Pastor Mc Connell is in the subs- son of big Finbarr who used to box the australian lads.
Tyrone through and Kerry fighting for their Division One lives. Only one winner.
This possibly the one thread I actually want to see Mikey Sheehy on.
C'mon Tyrone!
Savages v Animals
C'mon Tyrone!!! All us Mayoboys will hope ye can do it!
They have not gone away you know!
Kerry that is! All the old guns are back at the right time. And believe me there would have been no favours today from their neighbours Cork today who they beat handy enough. Tyrone have nothing to play for, so i would not be surprised if this turned out to be a win for the Kingdom. Tyrone might use it as a game to rest players, try out players and prepare for the League and more importantly Donegal in May. Tyrone are well in Credit in regards the old scores, and last years defeat in the Championship to Kerry, was only a small dent compared to the pain that Kerry have received in return.
Kerry to win!
Massive incentive for Kerry, they need a decent score to overtake London's total (56 points) in all 4 divisions.
Paul Galvin has a mighty beard.
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 24, 2013, 09:37:12 PM
They have not gone away you know!
Kerry that is! All the old guns are back at the right time. And believe me there would have been no favours today from their neighbours Cork today who they beat handy enough. Tyrone have nothing to play for, so i would not be surprised if this turned out to be a win for the Kingdom. Tyrone might use it as a game to rest players, try out players and prepare for the League and more importantly Donegal in May. Tyrone are well in Credit in regards the old scores, and last years defeat in the Championship to Kerry, was only a small dent compared to the pain that Kerry have received in return.
Kerry to win!
Ye don't know Mickey Harte too well do you From the Bunker or are ye just hoping to stir up some shit?
I'd say Tyrone will want to finish top of the table
Quote from: Jinxy on March 24, 2013, 09:50:39 PM
Paul Galvin has a mighty beard.
Best beard I've ever seen.
Tyrone - top of the table.
Kerry - fighting to keep division one status.
All taking place in Omagh.
Kerry by 7pts and two handbags.
Quote from: Fuzzman on March 24, 2013, 10:07:17 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 24, 2013, 09:37:12 PM
They have not gone away you know!
Kerry that is! All the old guns are back at the right time. And believe me there would have been no favours today from their neighbours Cork today who they beat handy enough. Tyrone have nothing to play for, so i would not be surprised if this turned out to be a win for the Kingdom. Tyrone might use it as a game to rest players, try out players and prepare for the League and more importantly Donegal in May. Tyrone are well in Credit in regards the old scores, and last years defeat in the Championship to Kerry, was only a small dent compared to the pain that Kerry have received in return.
Kerry to win!
Ye don't know Mickey Harte too well do you From the Bunker or are ye just hoping to stir up some shit?
I'd say Tyrone will want to finish top of the table
Oh don't get me wrong, Harte will want to win. I just feel he won't care as much about finishing top of the Division and about beating Kerry. There is bigger fish to fry in the League and even Bigger fish come the summer.
Reading the text so far it's Amazing how everyone wants to support Tyrone here, where were these fcukers when we were getting slUghtered for mcmenamen gormley and cavanagh diving. Out of badness I think we let Kerry stay up. Fcuk it what could be sadder than a Tyrone team not giving a shit.
Quote from: rrhf on March 24, 2013, 10:48:38 PM
Reading the text so far it's Amazing how everyone wants to support Tyrone here, where were these fcukers when we were getting slUghtered for mcmenamen gormley and cavanagh diving. Out of badness I think we let Kerry stay up. Fcuk it what could be sadder than a Tyrone team not giving a shit.
Its ok us Derry men still hate ye ;)
Kerry to win both the football and fighting :)
I see Kerry are heading away for a week's training camp this week.
They'll be well up for the battle in 2 weeks time I'd say.
Thy Kingdom come!
Tara teams have to go on training camps before a trip to Omagh.
Quote from: Fuzzman on March 24, 2013, 11:44:07 PM
I see Kerry are heading away for a week's training camp this week.
They'll be well up for the battle in 2 weeks time I'd say.
Thy Kingdom come!
Let the echoes of Killarney '12 reverberate incessantly about our lads' brains! :)
Quote from: ONeill on March 24, 2013, 11:47:28 PM
Tara teams have to go on training camps before a trip to Omagh.
Usually you have to spend a week in quarantine after visiting Omagh!
This game should be used by the GAA to pilot the black card scheme.
Id say we need to keep our powder dry for a league semi final. Kerry by a pint and a half.
Quote from: orangeman on March 25, 2013, 08:45:53 AM
This game should be used by the GAA to pilot the black card scheme.
The Cork and Kerry game yesterday would have been a perfect game for it. Surprised there weren't a few red cards shown yesterday though, a fella punched Galvin on the back of the head and stayed on the pitch.
Quote from: Jinxy on March 24, 2013, 09:50:39 PM
Paul Galvin has a mighty beard.
they say its where his strength lies
Here is a good shot of him with Noel O'Leary yesterday
(http://www.covenanteyes.com/lemonade/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/samson.jpg)
Not to be confused with this one
http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/157070_156765907820900_712580207_n.jpg (http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/157070_156765907820900_712580207_n.jpg)
On paper Kerry still have got quite a potentially lethal forward line with Gooch, Donaghy, the two O'Sullivans & of course ex player of the year Galvin.
It sounds like young Griffin did well at full back and Buckley played well at MF.
When was the last time Kerry were in Div 2? I can't see Tyrone taking the foot off the gas for this one as its great psychological progress Mickey has made this year, having had some tough away wins and defeat to Kerry at this stage wouldn't be helpful I'd say.
Tyrone will definitely go at this one full tilt.. cant believe some would even question that? Really looking forward to this game. Kerry are finding a bit of form again with their old guard returning. Tyrone will want to address the failings of the qualifier game last July.
I wonder what impact the portugal break will make for Kerry? Will it bring them on immediately - or could the heavy training & travel from portugal over easter - coupled with the long journey to Omagh 4 days later be a bit much in such a short space of time? I think it could.
Even though there is nothing at stake for Tyrone, there will definitely be a championship flavour in Omagh come the 7th April. Tie of the round.
Tyrone will 100% go out to win this. However, I wouldn't be sad if Harte decided to mix it up and give boys a run out as the outcome will have no serious outcome on the semi final. I'd go with something like this:
McConnell
McCarron
Justy
Gormley
Clarke
McNamee
McBride
Joe
S Cavanagh
C Cavanagh
Harte
Lafferty
McCurry
Mattie Donnelly
Penrose
Quote from: Fuzzman on March 25, 2013, 10:56:36 AM
Here is a good shot of him with Noel O'Leary yesterday
(http://www.covenanteyes.com/lemonade/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/samson.jpg)
Not to be confused with this one
http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/157070_156765907820900_712580207_n.jpg (http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/157070_156765907820900_712580207_n.jpg)
On paper Kerry still have got quite a potentially lethal forward line with Gooch, Donaghy, the two O'Sullivans & of course ex player of the year Galvin.
It sounds like young Griffin did well at full back and Buckley played well at MF.
When was the last time Kerry were in Div 2? I can't see Tyrone taking the foot off the gas for this one as its great psychological progress Mickey has made this year, having had some tough away wins and defeat to Kerry at this stage wouldn't be helpful I'd say.
Yer man On the left looks about 50 in that link picture!
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 24, 2013, 11:52:44 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on March 24, 2013, 11:44:07 PM
I see Kerry are heading away for a week's training camp this week.
They'll be well up for the battle in 2 weeks time I'd say.
Thy Kingdom come!
Let the echoes of Killarney '12 reverberate incessantly about our lads' brains! :)
and there's plenty of empty space for echoing in there, thats for sure.
Brilliant fixture to finish off the regular league season.
A serious question.
Do ye Kerry lads feel ye can give the championship another rattle?
Can ye compete with the youth and hunger of Dublin & Donegal.
Looks like ye can still get one over on Cork anyway.
Donegal will win nathin this year.
Quote from: Jinxy on March 26, 2013, 02:50:05 PM
Donegal will win nathin this year.
IF we get past Tyrone, we'll win Ulster.
Beyond that, it'll be tough, but then not too many rated us this time last year.
I still think it's
Dublin Donegal
Cork
Kildare Tyrone Mayo Kerry
Plebs
Quote from: ONeill on March 26, 2013, 08:14:25 PM
I still think it's
Dublin Donegal
Cork
Kildare Tyrone Mayo Kerry
Plebs
In this order....
Dublin
(best squad in the country)Donegal
(AI champions....have beaten all mentioned here in Championship bar Dublin)Cork
(so long as they don't meet Kerry in Croker)Tyrone/Kerry
(because they have done it)Mayo
(no higher because they are Mayo)(space)Kildare
(until they beat one of the above teams)There is more than likely a surprise package in the chasing bunch!
Really can't see anyone outside the Div1 teams making an impact or QF spots ( unless the draw throws up otherwise), Div2 sides are mediocre.
What about Div3?
Quote from: Jinxy on March 26, 2013, 10:31:36 PM
What about Div3?
Because of tradition, you can never discount Meath causing an upset!
The rest are hit and miss!
Meath can hit too.
The pain will never go away.
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on March 26, 2013, 10:43:51 PM
Has the Kerry County Board made a request for their supporters to be segregated from them Tyrone "hallions" in Omagh with a police escort to the ground?
Yes. All fans leaving from the Kingdom are also being given poncho's to ward off the danger of possible projectile saliva. :P
C'mon now Fionn, don't be telling me ye took that ape from Crokes seriously when he went on about fan segregation? He was a laughing stock down here as much as anywhere for that shur.
Kerry can win this, but only if the half forward line is revamped completely..and I fear that won't happen, so given that and the fact that Tyrone will be well up for it, I'd fancy a home win here.
Looking forward to having the craic with the many genuine football people I'll no doubt meet in Omagh.
Quote from: God14 on March 25, 2013, 11:08:12 AM
Tyrone will definitely go at this one full tilt.. cant believe some would even question that?
Quote from: Redhand Santa on March 25, 2013, 06:18:57 PM
Tyrone will 100% go out to win this.
I know the supporters would love to see Tyrone going 100% to win this but will MH be thinking that? I'd say he'll do whatever he feels is best to prepare Tyrone for Donegal in May, sending Kerry down won't be that high on his priorities.
Tyrone will still be smarting after the humiliation in Killarney. I expect it will be a fiery contest.
The lads will definitely be going up to create some anarchy in the UK.
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on March 27, 2013, 08:50:28 AM
Tyrone will still be smarting after the humiliation in Killarney. I expect it will be a fiery contest.
The lads will definitely be going up to create some anarchy in the UK.
The celebrations of a Kerry qualifier win last year, show it was The Kingdom that was hurting MS ;)
Funny I cant remember ever a Kerry player openly crying with joy following any victory, never mind a Qualifier victory.
And a so called hard man at that lol
Kerry fans (and Tyrone fans!) are actively encouraged to call up and see Tyrone's new Garvaghey GAA centre on the way up or down to the match - there might even be a cup of tea in it for you! It's just off the main road to Omagh.
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on March 27, 2013, 08:50:28 AM
Tyrone will still be smarting after the humiliation in Killarney. I expect it will be a fiery contest.
The lads will definitely be going up to create some anarchy in the UK.
Stop being an arse Mike will ya? Or maybe rock up to Healy park on Sunday week and tell people you're enjoying your time in the "UK"..see how that works out for you...
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on March 27, 2013, 11:15:16 AM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on March 27, 2013, 08:50:28 AM
Tyrone will still be smarting after the humiliation in Killarney. I expect it will be a fiery contest.
The lads will definitely be going up to create some anarchy in the UK.
Stop being an arse Mike will ya? Or maybe rock up to Healy park on Sunday week and tell people you're enjoying your time in the "UK"..see how that works out for you...
I would love that fecker to open his mouth in Tyrone and say that, he wouldnt have the balls to do so, than again, he would probably melt if he left kerry!
Do many Kerry fans tend to travel this far for league games?
It's a long journey if ye come up and down on the same day.
I presume the team would come up the night before would they?
Quote from: Fuzzman on March 28, 2013, 02:53:49 PM
Do many Kerry fans tend to travel this far for league games?
It's a long journey if ye come up and down on the same day.
I presume the team would come up the night before would they?
They'd fly to Derry I'd assume or maybe that only happened in the good days?!
Nah that's all finished now
There's only flights to Dublin now from Kerry I believe and to Faro and Stansted.
Donegal chartered their own plane for the match versus Cork
I think traditionally Kerry would travel as far as Monaghan the night before but stand to be corrected.
From Hoganstand.com, aren't we great altogether... ;)
Tyrone offer Kerry hand of friendship
28 March 2013
Tyrone and Kerry may not be the best of friends on the field, but the Red Hands' supporters club is eager to facilitate the Kingdom's supporters on Sunday.
The sides meet in the last round of the league in Omagh at the weekend. Kerry need a win to have any chance of avoiding relegation, while Tyrone are already into the semi finals.
Tension between the sides has risen over the past decade or so, but Club Tyrone spokesman Mark Conway has urged any Kerry supporters to stop off at their new GAA centre of excellence on the way home from the game for food and drink.
When Tyrone visited Kerry last year in the qualifiers, their supporters were overwhelmed by the hospitality shown by the hosts, and they are keen to show the same courtesy this weekend.
"Tyrone people were very much taken with the fantastic show of support for Mickey Harte and the Tyrone team when we went to Killarney last Just for the qualifiers," said Conway.
"An awful lot of very good Kerry people waited for over an hour and gave our boys a great send off and that was very much appreciated. Our offer of a wee cup of tea and a sandwich after the game in Omagh, before Kerry folk head home, is just a small offer as a response to the generosity the Tyrone team was shown last July in Kerry."
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 28, 2013, 08:05:26 PM
From Hoganstand.com, aren't we great altogether... ;)
Tyrone offer Kerry hand of friendship
28 March 2013
Tyrone and Kerry may not be the best of friends on the field, but the Red Hands' supporters club is eager to facilitate the Kingdom's supporters on Sunday.
The sides meet in the last round of the league in Omagh at the weekend. Kerry need a win to have any chance of avoiding relegation, while Tyrone are already into the semi finals.
Tension between the sides has risen over the past decade or so, but Club Tyrone spokesman Mark Conway has urged any Kerry supporters to stop off at their new GAA centre of excellence on the way home from the game for food and drink.
When Tyrone visited Kerry last year in the qualifiers, their supporters were overwhelmed by the hospitality shown by the hosts, and they are keen to show the same courtesy this weekend.
"Tyrone people were very much taken with the fantastic show of support for Mickey Harte and the Tyrone team when we went to Killarney last Just for the qualifiers," said Conway.
"An awful lot of very good Kerry people waited for over an hour and gave our boys a great send off and that was very much appreciated. Our offer of a wee cup of tea and a sandwich after the game in Omagh, before Kerry folk head home, is just a small offer as a response to the generosity the Tyrone team was shown last July in Kerry."
And people say us Northerners are not hospitable!
To be fair, the reception given by Kerry people after that game will not be forgotten up here for a long time. Probably across the country. Harte family are legends.
To be fair, the reception given by Kerry people after that game will not be forgotten up here for a long time. Probably across the country. Harte family are legends.
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Can you honestly tell me that the "great reception" would still have been there if Tyrone had won that game.. Utter nonsense.... The abuse Tyrone supporters took in the stands that day was never mentioned... Kerry win and sure isn't it all grand and great oul craic, aren't Kerry fans great, staying behind to applaud Tyrone onto the bus. Then the cringeworthy statement by Tyrone county board.. Embarrassing....
The overblown love in is nonsense.. Catch yourselves on...
I admire Kerry football and it's pedigree and history. It's greatest players are icons and legends in the game, but the media driven hype and drivel about the great respect their supporters have is rubbish.
They are like every other county, love to win and hate to lose.. No different......
I have had better craic after games with Dublin, Armagh and Mayo people, win lose or draw..
Rant over...
Ach get over yourself FFS. There was a magic reception that day for Tyrone, one that was exceptional, and above all previous encounters. It deserves credit.
Your just embittered if you believe your last post fully.
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on March 28, 2013, 02:11:37 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on March 27, 2013, 02:10:50 AM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on March 26, 2013, 10:43:51 PM
Has the Kerry County Board made a request for their supporters to be segregated from them Tyrone "hallions" in Omagh with a police escort to the ground?
Yes. All fans leaving from the Kingdom are also being given poncho's to ward off the danger of possible projectile saliva. :P
C'mon now Fionn, don't be telling me ye took that ape from Crokes seriously when he went on about fan segregation? He was a laughing stock down here as much as anywhere for that shur.
Kerry can win this, but only if the half forward line is revamped completely..and I fear that won't happen, so given that and the fact that Tyrone will be well up for it, I'd fancy a home win here.
Looking forward to having the craic with the many genuine football people I'll no doubt meet in Omagh.
The problem with Kerry having arguably above-average access to important media outlets is that the bullshit filter fails too often. Many journalists will look for something that sells.
If it's your first time in Healy Park, (a) bring a damn good warm coat no matter what the weather. That part of Omagh's fairly high up, windy, and Tyrone doesn't have any microclimate that you might find say at Valentia, (b) if you're going to the stand, either stick with the travelling support as a group or find a seat located on the far end of the turnstiles (the left side as seen from the TV cameras), if you don't know why you might understand as the game goes on, and (c) most of the shops nearby will happily take Euros at least in notes for a fair exchange rate, but will give you change in sterling. Enjoy the trip, because from either end it's a long one.
Dublin media are obsessed with Kerry, no denying it, partially because most of them long for the Kerry v Dublin era. Don't know what you mean by "bullshit filter" though and an idiotic statement like the crowd segregation nonsense is far from the norm.
Won't be first time in Healy park, was there the day Ricey dropped the hand on Galvin in 2009...quite a romantic gesture! Hostile enough during the match for sure, but I wouldn't give a shite where I was sitting/standing. Most Tyrone people are dead on before/after the game...some lose the run of themselves completely for the 70 mins yeah, but its not like that doesn't happen down here either I guess.
Kerry are over in Portugal at the minute, so that may accelerate the conditioning a bit...still won't matter if we select such a toothless half forward line again. Either way its going to be hard to get a result. We've dominated Tyrone is several games in Omagh, but gone to sleep for too long in all those games also. I'd be happy enough with a decent performance and a decent team structure to be honest.
Quote from: Rois on March 28, 2013, 04:51:12 PM
I think traditionally Kerry would travel as far as Monaghan the night before but stand to be corrected.
Kerry fans much better nowadays. Omagh 2 or 3 yrs ago in league was a testament. Last yr in championship in Mullingar also.
Westmeath should've won.
Whats most cringy is when tyrone fans go on about how hurt kerry have been for years, and claiming the celebrations at the end were over the top. I said at the time it was great to see cooper, galvin and co jumping around at the end, why wudn't they after a 10 point thumping? Even micky harte came out later and said "well it wasnt they team that won 3 all-ireland that they beat". What a strange comment. Teams naturually evolve, but there would have been the satisfaction of stuffing a team with the main nasty characters ricey, mugsy, gormley, stevie o neill, big pascal and his finger, and of course mcguigan and his 2 second cameo.
The tyrone secretary then having to mention it in his annual report in december was also an embarressment
Quote from: Orchardman on March 29, 2013, 12:24:48 AM
Whats most cringy is when tyrone fans go on about how hurt kerry have been for years, and claiming the celebrations at the end were over the top. I said at the time it was great to see cooper, galvin and co jumping around at the end, why wudn't they after a 10 point thumping? Even micky harte came out later and said "well it wasnt they team that won 3 all-ireland that they beat". What a strange comment. Teams naturually evolve, but there would have been the satisfaction of stuffing a team with the main nasty characters ricey, mugsy, gormley, stevie o neill, big pascal and his finger, and of course mcguigan and his 2 second cameo.
The tyrone secretary then having to mention it in his annual report in december was also an embarressment
What did he say?
Nice to see you on our side of an argument Orchardman, but to be honest the reason the Kerry lads celebrated so much that day (and they did overdo it a bit) was that they were under savage pressure beforehand...they were being told they were finished if they lost, that it would be Tomás' last game and a disgrace for it to be a loss in Killarney to Tyrone. They were facing a team they had never beaten in c/ship football, they had almost been beaten in Mullingar the week before and had got dogs abuse over that also.
Mickey Harte was a bit strange in his comments after that game alright, going on about the ref and stuff, but we'll chalk that down to emotions getting the better of him.
Don't think I commented here at the time but it was one of the dirtiest games I've ever seen, both sides were well wound up..Ricey got in a row with a guy outside the wire DURING THE WARMUP on the terrace side! It was edgy stuff.
Won't be as intense Sunday week but should still be wiry enough. Apart from one league game in Killarney a few years ago, these games have been largely tight affairs so expecting the same.
Yeah yeah Bart. Yawn....
Expecting a tight game this time round and won't be surprised to see a draw or maybe even Kerry sneaking a win. They will not want to be relegated to Div 2, and especially not at the hands of Tyrone.
Kerry have been very lacklustre this year but the win over cork and the week away will definitely give them a lift.. Tyrone are usually hit and miss in Omagh and it's no shock that all the best performances have came away from home in the league .
Hope to see the Kerry supporters travelling to the game, unfortunately Omagh is not anywhere near the majestic setting that Killarney is.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on March 28, 2013, 11:34:23 PM
Quote from: Rois on March 28, 2013, 04:51:12 PM
I think traditionally Kerry would travel as far as Monaghan the night before but stand to be corrected.
Kerry fans much better nowadays. Omagh 2 or 3 yrs ago in league was a testament. Last yr in championship in Mullingar also.
Westmeath should've won.
I meant the Kerry team, not the fans.
Quote from: Beantown on March 29, 2013, 08:42:29 AM
Yeah yeah Bart. Yawn....
Expecting a tight game this time round and won't be surprised to see a draw or maybe even Kerry sneaking a win. They will not want to be relegated to Div 2, and especially not at the hands of Tyrone.
Kerry have been very lacklustre this year but the win over cork and the week away will definitely give them a lift.. Tyrone are usually hit and miss in Omagh and it's no shock that all the best performances have came away from home in the league .
Hope to see the Kerry supporters travelling to the game, unfortunately Omagh is not anywhere near the majestic setting that Killarney is.
Feck aff. I'd take the view of Glenhordial any day over Carrauntoohil ;)
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on March 29, 2013, 04:18:02 AM
Quote from: Orchardman on March 29, 2013, 12:24:48 AM
Whats most cringy is when tyrone fans go on about how hurt kerry have been for years, and claiming the celebrations at the end were over the top. I said at the time it was great to see cooper, galvin and co jumping around at the end, why wudn't they after a 10 point thumping? Even micky harte came out later and said "well it wasnt they team that won 3 all-ireland that they beat". What a strange comment. Teams naturually evolve, but there would have been the satisfaction of stuffing a team with the main nasty characters ricey, mugsy, gormley, stevie o neill, big pascal and his finger, and of course mcguigan and his 2 second cameo.
The tyrone secretary then having to mention it in his annual report in december was also an embarressment
What did he say?
Nice to see you on our side of an argument Orchardman, but to be honest the reason the Kerry lads celebrated so much that day (and they did overdo it a bit) was that they were under savage pressure beforehand...they were being told they were finished if they lost, that it would be Tomás' last game and a disgrace for it to be a loss in Killarney to Tyrone. They were facing a team they had never beaten in c/ship football, they had almost been beaten in Mullingar the week before and had got dogs abuse over that also.
Mickey Harte was a bit strange in his comments after that game alright, going on about the ref and stuff, but we'll chalk that down to emotions getting the better of him.
Don't think I commented here at the time but it was one of the dirtiest games I've ever seen, both sides were well wound up..Ricey got in a row with a guy outside the wire DURING THE WARMUP on the terrace side! It was edgy stuff.
Won't be as intense Sunday week but should still be wiry enough. Apart from one league game in Killarney a few years ago, these games have been largely tight affairs so expecting the same.
What he said wasn't that bad but it made headlines during the quiet december period: this is a bit
Tyrone report rekindles Kerry rivalry
Tuesday, December 04, 2012
Tyrone secretary Dominic McCaughey stoked the flames of the county's rivalry with Kerry in his annual report.
"In addition, both players and management were deeply frustrated by what they considered inadequate refereeing that lacked consistency and included some serious errors. When the final whistle sounded, Kerry had a 10-point winning margin that was greeted, amazingly, with tears of joy by some players and wild scenes of jubilation among highly vociferous supporters."
Indeed it was a very niggly game from both sides, i actually had a good laugh when gormley got his jammy goal and then the slow mo replay showed him getting the ball out of the net and stuffing it into the belly of tomas o'se! sneaky dig. The difference was that kerry also hit some lovely points that day and that's what made it good to watch.
The 05 and 08 finals are still easily up there with the best games i ever seen, and I was even supporting tyrone both days, so I was just happy to see the tables turned last summer as you say, the guys were under big pressure. But sure I also think kerry will win the all-ireland this year if they get all the old guys flying
Quote from: Orchardman on March 29, 2013, 01:44:06 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on March 29, 2013, 04:18:02 AM
Quote from: Orchardman on March 29, 2013, 12:24:48 AM
Whats most cringy is when tyrone fans go on about how hurt kerry have been for years, and claiming the celebrations at the end were over the top. I said at the time it was great to see cooper, galvin and co jumping around at the end, why wudn't they after a 10 point thumping? Even micky harte came out later and said "well it wasnt they team that won 3 all-ireland that they beat". What a strange comment. Teams naturually evolve, but there would have been the satisfaction of stuffing a team with the main nasty characters ricey, mugsy, gormley, stevie o neill, big pascal and his finger, and of course mcguigan and his 2 second cameo.
The tyrone secretary then having to mention it in his annual report in december was also an embarressment
What did he say?
Nice to see you on our side of an argument Orchardman, but to be honest the reason the Kerry lads celebrated so much that day (and they did overdo it a bit) was that they were under savage pressure beforehand...they were being told they were finished if they lost, that it would be Tomás' last game and a disgrace for it to be a loss in Killarney to Tyrone. They were facing a team they had never beaten in c/ship football, they had almost been beaten in Mullingar the week before and had got dogs abuse over that also.
Mickey Harte was a bit strange in his comments after that game alright, going on about the ref and stuff, but we'll chalk that down to emotions getting the better of him.
Don't think I commented here at the time but it was one of the dirtiest games I've ever seen, both sides were well wound up..Ricey got in a row with a guy outside the wire DURING THE WARMUP on the terrace side! It was edgy stuff.
Won't be as intense Sunday week but should still be wiry enough. Apart from one league game in Killarney a few years ago, these games have been largely tight affairs so expecting the same.
What he said wasn't that bad but it made headlines during the quiet december period: this is a bit
Tyrone report rekindles Kerry rivalry
Tuesday, December 04, 2012
Tyrone secretary Dominic McCaughey stoked the flames of the county's rivalry with Kerry in his annual report.
"In addition, both players and management were deeply frustrated by what they considered inadequate refereeing that lacked consistency and included some serious errors. When the final whistle sounded, Kerry had a 10-point winning margin that was greeted, amazingly, with tears of joy by some players and wild scenes of jubilation among highly vociferous supporters."
Indeed it was a very niggly game from both sides, i actually had a good laugh when gormley got his jammy goal and then the slow mo replay showed him getting the ball out of the net and stuffing it into the belly of tomas o'se! sneaky dig. The difference was that kerry also hit some lovely points that day and that's what made it good to watch.
The 05 and 08 finals are still easily up there with the best games i ever seen, and I was even supporting tyrone both days, so I was just happy to see the tables turned last summer as you say, the guys were under big pressure. But sure I also think kerry will win the all-ireland this year if they get all the old guys flying
Beat by 10 and moaning about the ref? He comes across as a right knob in that report anyway, not that I know the man from Adam.
Had to laugh at Gormley ramming the ball into Tomás...did he think he would wind him or something?!
Yeah 2005 final is up there with best games I've seen, have watched it a few times. 2008 final is not so easy to watch for many reasons.
Quote from: Orchardman on March 29, 2013, 12:24:48 AM
Even micky harte came out later and said "well it wasnt they team that won 3 all-ireland that they beat". What a strange comment. Teams naturually evolve, but there would have been the satisfaction of stuffing a team with the main nasty characters ricey, mugsy, gormley, stevie o neill, big pascal and his finger, and of course mcguigan and his 2 second cameo.
There clearly was plenty of satisfaction for Kerry and rightly so but Harte was right to say it wasn't the same team. There were 10 Tyrone boys playing that day who had never played Kerry in the championship. Kerry were deserved winners but some of the stuff afterwards about revenge for 03, 05 and 08 was laughable (I recall a Kerry journalist saying the win was better than winning an All-Ireland ;D ;D), they beat a team in re-build mode. 3 of the "nasty characters" you mention didn't even start the game.
the end of the day one team got 36 odd all-irelands, the other 3, over the next 30yrs i know who my money would be on to lift more all-irelands, i dont think they be too worried about winning a nfl game in Omagh if they werent in the relegation zone. Kerry never really made any excuses for getting beat by Tyrone, but Tyrone have plenty of excuses about getting trimmed last summer. The slamming the ball into O`Se said all there need be about that tyrone player
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 28, 2013, 08:05:26 PM
From Hoganstand.com, aren't we great altogether... ;)
Tyrone offer Kerry hand of friendship
28 March 2013
Tyrone and Kerry may not be the best of friends on the field, but the Red Hands' supporters club is eager to facilitate the Kingdom's supporters on Sunday.
The sides meet in the last round of the league in Omagh at the weekend. Kerry need a win to have any chance of avoiding relegation, while Tyrone are already into the semi finals.
Tension between the sides has risen over the past decade or so, but Club Tyrone spokesman Mark Conway has urged any Kerry supporters to stop off at their new GAA centre of excellence on the way home from the game for food and drink.
When Tyrone visited Kerry last year in the qualifiers, their supporters were overwhelmed by the hospitality shown by the hosts, and they are keen to show the same courtesy this weekend.
"Tyrone people were very much taken with the fantastic show of support for Mickey Harte and the Tyrone team when we went to Killarney last Just for the qualifiers," said Conway.
"An awful lot of very good Kerry people waited for over an hour and gave our boys a great send off and that was very much appreciated. Our offer of a wee cup of tea and a sandwich after the game in Omagh, before Kerry folk head home, is just a small offer as a response to the generosity the Tyrone team was shown last July in Kerry."
ye can shove ye're sandwiches up yer arse!
Quote from: Orchardman on March 29, 2013, 01:44:06 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on March 29, 2013, 04:18:02 AM
Quote from: Orchardman on March 29, 2013, 12:24:48 AM
Whats most cringy is when tyrone fans go on about how hurt kerry have been for years, and claiming the celebrations at the end were over the top. I said at the time it was great to see cooper, galvin and co jumping around at the end, why wudn't they after a 10 point thumping? Even micky harte came out later and said "well it wasnt they team that won 3 all-ireland that they beat". What a strange comment. Teams naturually evolve, but there would have been the satisfaction of stuffing a team with the main nasty characters ricey, mugsy, gormley, stevie o neill, big pascal and his finger, and of course mcguigan and his 2 second cameo.
The tyrone secretary then having to mention it in his annual report in december was also an embarressment
What did he say?
Nice to see you on our side of an argument Orchardman, but to be honest the reason the Kerry lads celebrated so much that day (and they did overdo it a bit) was that they were under savage pressure beforehand...they were being told they were finished if they lost, that it would be Tomás' last game and a disgrace for it to be a loss in Killarney to Tyrone. They were facing a team they had never beaten in c/ship football, they had almost been beaten in Mullingar the week before and had got dogs abuse over that also.
Mickey Harte was a bit strange in his comments after that game alright, going on about the ref and stuff, but we'll chalk that down to emotions getting the better of him.
Don't think I commented here at the time but it was one of the dirtiest games I've ever seen, both sides were well wound up..Ricey got in a row with a guy outside the wire DURING THE WARMUP on the terrace side! It was edgy stuff.
Won't be as intense Sunday week but should still be wiry enough. Apart from one league game in Killarney a few years ago, these games have been largely tight affairs so expecting the same.
What he said wasn't that bad but it made headlines during the quiet december period: this is a bit
Tyrone report rekindles Kerry rivalry
Tuesday, December 04, 2012
Tyrone secretary Dominic McCaughey stoked the flames of the county's rivalry with Kerry in his annual report.
"In addition, both players and management were deeply frustrated by what they considered inadequate refereeing that lacked consistency and included some serious errors. When the final whistle sounded, Kerry had a 10-point winning margin that was greeted, amazingly, with tears of joy by some players and wild scenes of jubilation among highly vociferous supporters."
Indeed it was a very niggly game from both sides, i actually had a good laugh when gormley got his jammy goal and then the slow mo replay showed him getting the ball out of the net and stuffing it into the belly of tomas o'se! sneaky dig. The difference was that kerry also hit some lovely points that day and that's what made it good to watch.
The 05 and 08 finals are still easily up there with the best games i ever seen, and I was even supporting tyrone both days, so I was just happy to see the tables turned last summer as you say, the guys were under big pressure. But sure I also think kerry will win the all-ireland this year if they get all the old guys flying
Think that guy has form with ungracious comments in his annual report when Tyrone are beat in the Championship
There was no tea or sandwiches in Killarney ! ;)
Nice touch by Tyrone all the same.
Thousands of Kerry fans will travel now.
Tyrone offer Kerry hand of friendship
28 March 2013
Kerry and Tyrone supporters enjoy the game.Tyrone and Kerry may not be the best of friends on the field, but the Red Hands' supporters club is eager to facilitate the Kingdom's supporters on Sunday.
The sides meet in the last round of the league in Omagh at the weekend. Kerry need a win to have any chance of avoiding relegation, while Tyrone are already into the semi finals.
Tension between the sides has risen over the past decade or so, but Club Tyrone spokesman Mark Conway has urged any Kerry supporters to stop off at their new GAA centre of excellence on the way home from the game for food and drink.
When Tyrone visited Kerry last year in the qualifiers, their supporters were overwhelmed by the hospitality shown by the hosts, and they are keen to show the same courtesy this weekend.
"Tyrone people were very much taken with the fantastic show of support for Mickey Harte and the Tyrone team when we went to Killarney last Just for the qualifiers," said Conway.
"An awful lot of very good Kerry people waited for over an hour and gave our boys a great send off and that was very much appreciated. Our offer of a wee cup of tea and a sandwich after the game in Omagh, before Kerry folk head home, is just a small offer as a response to the generosity the Tyrone team was shown last July in Kerry."
Quote from: Lamh Dhearg Alba on March 29, 2013, 08:26:36 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on March 29, 2013, 12:24:48 AM
Even micky harte came out later and said "well it wasnt they team that won 3 all-ireland that they beat". What a strange comment. Teams naturually evolve, but there would have been the satisfaction of stuffing a team with the main nasty characters ricey, mugsy, gormley, stevie o neill, big pascal and his finger, and of course mcguigan and his 2 second cameo.
There clearly was plenty of satisfaction for Kerry and rightly so but Harte was right to say it wasn't the same team. There were 10 Tyrone boys playing that day who had never played Kerry in the championship. Kerry were deserved winners but some of the stuff afterwards about revenge for 03, 05 and 08 was laughable (I recall a Kerry journalist saying the win was better than winning an All-Ireland ;D ;D), they beat a team in re-build mode. 3 of the "nasty characters" you mention didn't even start the game.
Of course time has moved on, it's 10 years now since the 03 game and even the youngest guy sean cavanagh was injured last year. But sure it's no different to kerry missing darragh o'se, tom o' sullivan, Mike Mac, Tommy walsh etc who have all moved on. But I do agree that it's no form of revenge and nothing can detract from those 3 big wins, but kerry could only beat what was in front of them last summer and they did it well
Quote from: orangeman on March 30, 2013, 11:04:47 AM
There was no tea or sandwiches in Killarney ! ;)
Nice touch by Tyrone all the same.
Thousands of Kerry fans will travel now.
Tyrone offer Kerry hand of friendship
28 March 2013
Kerry and Tyrone supporters enjoy the game.Tyrone and Kerry may not be the best of friends on the field, but the Red Hands' supporters club is eager to facilitate the Kingdom's supporters on Sunday.
The sides meet in the last round of the league in Omagh at the weekend. Kerry need a win to have any chance of avoiding relegation, while Tyrone are already into the semi finals.
Tension between the sides has risen over the past decade or so, but Club Tyrone spokesman Mark Conway has urged any Kerry supporters to stop off at their new GAA centre of excellence on the way home from the game for food and drink.
When Tyrone visited Kerry last year in the qualifiers, their supporters were overwhelmed by the hospitality shown by the hosts, and they are keen to show the same courtesy this weekend.
"Tyrone people were very much taken with the fantastic show of support for Mickey Harte and the Tyrone team when we went to Killarney last Just for the qualifiers," said Conway.
"An awful lot of very good Kerry people waited for over an hour and gave our boys a great send off and that was very much appreciated. Our offer of a wee cup of tea and a sandwich after the game in Omagh, before Kerry folk head home, is just a small offer as a response to the generosity the Tyrone team was shown last July in Kerry."
This sounds like a trap to me.
I wonder would a Tyrone sandwich be like a Cork sandwich or a Tyrone welcome like a Cork welcome?
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Quote from: Mike Sheehy on March 29, 2013, 10:05:44 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 28, 2013, 08:05:26 PM
From Hoganstand.com, aren't we great altogether... ;)
Tyrone offer Kerry hand of friendship
28 March 2013
Tyrone and Kerry may not be the best of friends on the field, but the Red Hands' supporters club is eager to facilitate the Kingdom's supporters on Sunday.
The sides meet in the last round of the league in Omagh at the weekend. Kerry need a win to have any chance of avoiding relegation, while Tyrone are already into the semi finals.
Tension between the sides has risen over the past decade or so, but Club Tyrone spokesman Mark Conway has urged any Kerry supporters to stop off at their new GAA centre of excellence on the way home from the game for food and drink.
When Tyrone visited Kerry last year in the qualifiers, their supporters were overwhelmed by the hospitality shown by the hosts, and they are keen to show the same courtesy this weekend.
"Tyrone people were very much taken with the fantastic show of support for Mickey Harte and the Tyrone team when we went to Killarney last Just for the qualifiers," said Conway.
"An awful lot of very good Kerry people waited for over an hour and gave our boys a great send off and that was very much appreciated. Our offer of a wee cup of tea and a sandwich after the game in Omagh, before Kerry folk head home, is just a small offer as a response to the generosity the Tyrone team was shown last July in Kerry."
ye can shove ye're sandwiches up yer arse!
Just to clarify the sandwiches are in Tyrone. We are not sending them to Kerry. So this does not concern you.
Quote from: Orchardman on March 30, 2013, 12:47:13 PM
Of course time has moved on, it's 10 years now since the 03 game and even the youngest guy sean cavanagh was injured last year. But sure it's no different to kerry missing darragh o'se, tom o' sullivan, Mike Mac, Tommy walsh etc who have all moved on. But I do agree that it's no form of revenge and nothing can detract from those 3 big wins, but kerry could only beat what was in front of them last summer and they did it well
Nonsense. As a Kerry (Tralee) lad remarked to me some weeks after the game, Tyrone were a mere shadow of the Noughties team in their pomp. But then, he harboured no bitterness! :P
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 30, 2013, 04:57:58 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on March 30, 2013, 12:47:13 PM
Of course time has moved on, it's 10 years now since the 03 game and even the youngest guy sean cavanagh was injured last year. But sure it's no different to kerry missing darragh o'se, tom o' sullivan, Mike Mac, Tommy walsh etc who have all moved on. But I do agree that it's no form of revenge and nothing can detract from those 3 big wins, but kerry could only beat what was in front of them last summer and they did it well
Nonsense. As a Kerry (Tralee) lad remarked to me some weeks after the game, Tyrone were a mere shadow of the Noughties team in their pomp. But then, he harboured no bitterness! :P
What are you on about, can you point put exactly what bit I said is actually nonsense? Tyrone people are sore losers. You can't keep harping back to guys that have retired, that's like us saying we have been shite since 08 but that's ok and it doesn't matter if anyone has beaten us in the last 5 years as geezer, marsden and the lads wern't playing!
Quote from: Orchardman on March 30, 2013, 07:41:05 PM
What are you on about, can you point put exactly what bit I said is actually nonsense? Tyrone people are sore losers. You can't keep harping back to guys that have retired, that's like us saying we have been shite since 08 but that's ok and it doesn't matter if anyone has beaten us in the last 5 years as geezer, marsden and the lads wern't playing!
I don't recall any Tyrone supporter saying that Kerry were not very deserving winners in that game last summer. They pulled away from Tyrone pretty early on really and the 10 point win did not flatter them. Anybody who says however that it was Kerry finally beating the Tyrone team who had dominated them in the championship the previous decade is wrong. As I said earlier there were 10 Tyrone players on the field who had never played against Kerry in the championship. That should not be too difficult a point to get your head around.
I think you are being kind to Armagh in saying they have been shite since 2008. They were finished well before that ;D
Quote from: Lamh Dhearg Alba on March 31, 2013, 01:33:50 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on March 30, 2013, 07:41:05 PM
What are you on about, can you point put exactly what bit I said is actually nonsense? Tyrone people are sore losers. You can't keep harping back to guys that have retired, that's like us saying we have been shite since 08 but that's ok and it doesn't matter if anyone has beaten us in the last 5 years as geezer, marsden and the lads wern't playing!
I don't recall any Tyrone supporter saying that Kerry were not very deserving winners in that game last summer. They pulled away from Tyrone pretty early on really and the 10 point win did not flatter them. Anybody who says however that it was Kerry finally beating the Tyrone team who had dominated them in the championship the previous decade is wrong. As I said earlier there were 10 Tyrone players on the field who had never played against Kerry in the championship. That should not be too difficult a point to get your head around.
I think you are being kind to Armagh in saying they have been shite since 2008. They were finished well before that ;D
What is wrong with tyrone people? Look at your post and you agree with everything I said, so get your own head around it.
1. Tyrone were shite last year, both teams are in transition but kerry were far better and stuffed them.
2. Of course it wasn't better than winning an all-ireland final in 05 and 08! All of which I have all ready said
Now i'm just waiting for srath ban to point out which bit i said was nonsense.
Armagh were still the second best team in 06 after kerry, could be argued they were no good after that but that another story!
This debate has gone off course.
The fact remains that some Kerry players "over celebrated" a qualifier win over Tyrone, so obviously previous defeats hurt them badly.
Quote from: crossfire on March 31, 2013, 03:55:58 PM
This debate has gone off course.
The fact remains that some Kerry players "over celebrated" a qualifier win over Tyrone, so obviously previous defeats hurt them badly.
The fact is Kerry beat Tyrone. Get over it.
The root of all the Kerry v Tyrone animosity is the feeling within Tyrone that they have never gotten the credit they feel they deserve. For example, It galls them to see the media still talking about the legends like Tomas, gooch , Galvin, Declan O'Sullivan etc while they are , largely, ignored. The puzzling thing is why they feel the need to blame Kerry for this. Its not our fault that guys like Dooher, Philip Gormley, Eoin Jordan etc are forgotten about.
Thats cause if your naming the best team of the past 30yrs there be likely 6 kerry men on it off hand, u look at the same Tyrone team over the same period you have P Canavan. Kerry had a better team , Tyrone a better system and manager. If the current Donegal team played one on one, they get creamed by Cork and Dublin and possible Tyrone as well. Dara O`Se was better than S Canvanagh, T`OSe was better than P Jordan, the gooch was better than S O`Neill, D 0`Sullivan/P Galvin was better than B Dooher. Tyrone had a very good team, kerry had some legendary players who played in 7 all-irelands.
ps mike, its C Gormley, P Jordan, its a bad sign you cant remember their names, short memories in Kerry lol
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 31, 2013, 11:54:13 PM
ps mike, its C Gormley, P Jordan, its a bad sign you cant remember their names, short memories in Kerry lol
This comment is the reason why I'm not going to even bother replying to your previous one!
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on March 31, 2013, 11:39:32 PM
The root of all the Kerry v Tyrone animosity is the feeling within Tyrone that they have never gotten the credit they feel they deserve. For example, It galls them to see the media still talking about the legends like Tomas, gooch , Galvin, Declan O'Sullivan etc while they are , largely, ignored. The puzzling thing is why they feel the need to blame Kerry for this. Its not our fault that guys like Dooher, Philip Gormley, Eoin Jordan etc are forgotten about.
The single reason for the animosity is Tyrone have won all the most important games between the teams in the last decade. It is Kerry induced. There is no animosity in Tyrone against Kerry.
Quote from: qz on April 01, 2013, 04:33:52 AM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on March 31, 2013, 11:39:32 PM
The root of all the Kerry v Tyrone animosity is the feeling within Tyrone that they have never gotten the credit they feel they deserve. For example, It galls them to see the media still talking about the legends like Tomas, gooch , Galvin, Declan O'Sullivan etc while they are , largely, ignored. The puzzling thing is why they feel the need to blame Kerry for this. Its not our fault that guys like Dooher, Philip Gormley, Eoin Jordan etc are forgotten about.
The single reason for the animosity is Tyrone have won all the most important games between the teams in the last decade. It is Kerry induced. There is no animosity in Tyrone against Kerry.
Well from the outside looking in, that seems to be complete rubbish.
There's potentially a good game coming up on Sunday in Omagh. Tyrone v Kerry. Tyrone looking to top the Division One table and Kerry looking to avoid dropping down to Division Two.
There is no need need to be stoking the flames and riling up old bitterness between the two counties. The most of such, exists only in the back pages of the press and in the minds of some grumpy gaaboarders.
Sit back, speculate about the game and enjoy it.
Quote from: ziggysego on April 01, 2013, 10:41:28 AM
There's potentially a good game coming up on Sunday in Omagh. Tyrone v Kerry. Tyrone looking to top the Division One table and Kerry looking to avoid dropping down to Division Two.
There is no need need to be stoking the flames and riling up old bitterness between the two counties. The most of such, exists only in the back pages of the press and in the minds of some grumpy gaaboarders.
Sit back, speculate about the game and enjoy it.
I imagine nobody will have to stoke anything. The two protagonists will look after the same next Sunday. I'd get short odds on some spectacular Monday morning headlines
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 31, 2013, 11:52:25 PM
Thats cause if your naming the best team of the past 30yrs there be likely 6 kerry men on it off hand, u look at the same Tyrone team over the same period you have P Canavan. Kerry had a better team , Tyrone a better system and manager. If the current Donegal team played one on one, they get creamed by Cork and Dublin and possible Tyrone as well. Dara O`Se was better than S Canvanagh, T`OSe was better than P Jordan, the gooch was better than S O`Neill, D 0`Sullivan/P Galvin was better than B Dooher. Tyrone had a very good team, kerry had some legendary players who played in 7 all-irelands.
Half the problem is that Kerry supporters actually believe that their players were so much better and come out with all this natural footballer crap. It wasn't a system that beat Kerry in 05 or 08. Both games were high scoring total football matches. The Tyrone players proved when they were fully fit that they were more than equal to that great Kerry side. Anyone who watched the finals would have to be very biased to question the footballing ability of that Tyrone team.
What year was Gooch bitten on the hand?
I think it was the same year he was gouged in the eye ? ..or possibly the same year that Galvin had his nuts grabbed...or was Galvin spat at? ....jaysus , its hard to keep a track of the thuggery that these Tyrone lads get up to.
Martin Duffy is to referee.
it'll be like a game of basketball if he's reffing in then.
Quote from: qz on April 01, 2013, 04:33:52 AM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on March 31, 2013, 11:39:32 PM
The root of all the Kerry v Tyrone animosity is the feeling within Tyrone that they have never gotten the credit they feel they deserve. For example, It galls them to see the media still talking about the legends like Tomas, gooch , Galvin, Declan O'Sullivan etc while they are , largely, ignored. The puzzling thing is why they feel the need to blame Kerry for this. Its not our fault that guys like Dooher, Philip Gormley, Eoin Jordan etc are forgotten about.
The single reason for the animosity is Tyrone have won all the most important games between the teams in the last decade. It is Kerry induced. There is no animosity in Tyrone against Kerry.
I think it goes deeper than that. Tyrone are jealous of Kerrys status within the GAA.Maybe they are just jealous of Kerry, period. A bit like the Aussies, there is always a strong hint of cultural cringe on Tyrones part when the two counties share the national spotlight.
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 01, 2013, 04:14:09 PM
Quote from: qz on April 01, 2013, 04:33:52 AM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on March 31, 2013, 11:39:32 PM
The root of all the Kerry v Tyrone animosity is the feeling within Tyrone that they have never gotten the credit they feel they deserve. For example, It galls them to see the media still talking about the legends like Tomas, gooch , Galvin, Declan O'Sullivan etc while they are , largely, ignored. The puzzling thing is why they feel the need to blame Kerry for this. Its not our fault that guys like Dooher, Philip Gormley, Eoin Jordan etc are forgotten about.
The single reason for the animosity is Tyrone have won all the most important games between the teams in the last decade. It is Kerry induced. There is no animosity in Tyrone against Kerry.
I think it goes deeper than that. Tyrone are jealous of Kerrys status within the GAA.Maybe they are just jealous of Kerry, period. A bit like the Aussies, there is always a strong hint of cultural cringe on Tyrones part when the two counties share the national spotlight.
rather than guess what you mean, could you explain to me this strong hint of tyrone cultural cringe? and what do the aussies have to do with it?
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 01, 2013, 04:14:09 PM
Quote from: qz on April 01, 2013, 04:33:52 AM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on March 31, 2013, 11:39:32 PM
The root of all the Kerry v Tyrone animosity is the feeling within Tyrone that they have never gotten the credit they feel they deserve. For example, It galls them to see the media still talking about the legends like Tomas, gooch , Galvin, Declan O'Sullivan etc while they are , largely, ignored. The puzzling thing is why they feel the need to blame Kerry for this. Its not our fault that guys like Dooher, Philip Gormley, Eoin Jordan etc are forgotten about.
The single reason for the animosity is Tyrone have won all the most important games between the teams in the last decade. It is Kerry induced. There is no animosity in Tyrone against Kerry.
I think it goes deeper than that. Tyrone are jealous of Kerrys status within the GAA.Maybe they are just jealous of Kerry, period. A bit like the Aussies, there is always a strong hint of cultural cringe on Tyrones part when the two counties share the national spotlight.
I'd say any animosity from Tyrone is aimed at idiots like you from the Kingdom who peddle this shite and clearly haven't got over their beatings in 2003, 2005 and 2008. The jealousy you talk about is only one-way, I can assure you. As for your status... sure for years you only had to beat a hurling county to waltz into an AI semi-final, and I don't know why you're bringing the Aussies into it. But, sure, enjoy your tea and buns at Garvaghey on Sunday
Mugsy's back !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
http://www.teamtalkmag.com/archives/22272
Quote from: cadence on April 01, 2013, 04:22:32 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 01, 2013, 04:14:09 PM
Quote from: qz on April 01, 2013, 04:33:52 AM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on March 31, 2013, 11:39:32 PM
The root of all the Kerry v Tyrone animosity is the feeling within Tyrone that they have never gotten the credit they feel they deserve. For example, It galls them to see the media still talking about the legends like Tomas, gooch , Galvin, Declan O'Sullivan etc while they are , largely, ignored. The puzzling thing is why they feel the need to blame Kerry for this. Its not our fault that guys like Dooher, Philip Gormley, Eoin Jordan etc are forgotten about.
The single reason for the animosity is Tyrone have won all the most important games between the teams in the last decade. It is Kerry induced. There is no animosity in Tyrone against Kerry.
I think it goes deeper than that. Tyrone are jealous of Kerrys status within the GAA.Maybe they are just jealous of Kerry, period. A bit like the Aussies, there is always a strong hint of cultural cringe on Tyrones part when the two counties share the national spotlight.
rather than guess what you mean, could you explain to me this strong hint of tyrone cultural cringe? and what do the aussies have to do with it?
Oh, you are from Tyrone again are you ? I thought you were a Donegal man.
The link below explains the concept of cultural cringe. It is not specific to Aussies but they are well known for it hence the reason I likened Tyrone people to Aussies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_cringe#Australia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_cringe#Australia)
Jesus, do they teach ye anything up there.
Quote from: red hander on April 01, 2013, 05:00:43 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 01, 2013, 04:14:09 PM
Quote from: qz on April 01, 2013, 04:33:52 AM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on March 31, 2013, 11:39:32 PM
The root of all the Kerry v Tyrone animosity is the feeling within Tyrone that they have never gotten the credit they feel they deserve. For example, It galls them to see the media still talking about the legends like Tomas, gooch , Galvin, Declan O'Sullivan etc while they are , largely, ignored. The puzzling thing is why they feel the need to blame Kerry for this. Its not our fault that guys like Dooher, Philip Gormley, Eoin Jordan etc are forgotten about.
The single reason for the animosity is Tyrone have won all the most important games between the teams in the last decade. It is Kerry induced. There is no animosity in Tyrone against Kerry.
I think it goes deeper than that. Tyrone are jealous of Kerrys status within the GAA.Maybe they are just jealous of Kerry, period. A bit like the Aussies, there is always a strong hint of cultural cringe on Tyrones part when the two counties share the national spotlight.
I'd say any animosity from Tyrone is aimed at idiots like you from the Kingdom who peddle this shite and clearly haven't got over their beatings in 2003, 2005 and 2008. The jealousy you talk about is only one-way, I can assure you. As for your status... sure for years you only had to beat a hurling county to waltz into an AI semi-final, and I don't know why you're bringing the Aussies into it. But, sure, enjoy your tea and buns at Garvaghey on Sunday
Calm down petal. Why do you Tymoanies always fly off the handle so easily !
Quote from: Gaffer on April 01, 2013, 05:23:18 PM
Mugsy's back !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
You're a bit late with the April Fool Gaffer ;)
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 01, 2013, 05:54:19 PM
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Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 01, 2013, 04:14:09 PM
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Quote from: Mike Sheehy on March 31, 2013, 11:39:32 PM
The root of all the Kerry v Tyrone animosity is the feeling within Tyrone that they have never gotten the credit they feel they deserve. For example, It galls them to see the media still talking about the legends like Tomas, gooch , Galvin, Declan O'Sullivan etc while they are , largely, ignored. The puzzling thing is why they feel the need to blame Kerry for this. Its not our fault that guys like Dooher, Philip Gormley, Eoin Jordan etc are forgotten about.
The single reason for the animosity is Tyrone have won all the most important games between the teams in the last decade. It is Kerry induced. There is no animosity in Tyrone against Kerry.
I think it goes deeper than that. Tyrone are jealous of Kerrys status within the GAA.Maybe they are just jealous of Kerry, period. A bit like the Aussies, there is always a strong hint of cultural cringe on Tyrones part when the two counties share the national spotlight.
rather than guess what you mean, could you explain to me this strong hint of tyrone cultural cringe? and what do the aussies have to do with it?
Oh, you are from Tyrone again are you ? I thought you were a Donegal man.
The link below explains the concept of cultural cringe. It is not specific to Aussies but they are well known for it hence the reason I likened Tyrone people to Aussies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_cringe#Australia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_cringe#Australia)
Jesus, do they teach ye anything up there.
but sure by that measurement, wanting to know what others think of you because you're insecure, the whole of feckin' ireland is subject to cultural cringe and the whole of practically every country that ever existed is too. people may ask you proudly, what do you think of us?... but answer them in a way that's not gushing with positivity and they take it hard. there's nearly always an element of insecurity about folk, otherwise they can be egotistical arseholes. so people take it hard, because it's a natural response, like you lot do down in kerry when people say you're as thick as shit. a load of old bollocks, but sure that doesn't stop the eejit who generalises now does it?
Quote from: ziggysego on April 01, 2013, 06:09:22 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on April 01, 2013, 05:23:18 PM
Mugsy's back !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
You're a bit late with the April Fool Gaffer ;)
heard hes back-Micky must think hes got a role to play
Quotebut sure by that measurement, wanting to know what others think of you because you're insecure, the whole of feckin' ireland is subject to cultural cringe and the whole of practically every country that ever existed is too. people may ask you proudly, what do you think of us?... but answer them in a way that's not gushing with positivity and they take it hard. there's nearly always an element of insecurity about folk, otherwise they can be egotistical arseholes. so people take it hard, because it's a natural response, like you lot do down in kerry when people say you're as thick as shit. a load of old bollocks, but sure that doesn't stop the eejit who generalises now does it?
oh, so Nordies think Kerry people are thick as shit ::)
This is the kind of abuse we have taken from you Nordies for years...and then you get all precious when you get a response. Hypocrites !
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 01, 2013, 07:28:28 PM
Quotebut sure by that measurement, wanting to know what others think of you because you're insecure, the whole of feckin' ireland is subject to cultural cringe and the whole of practically every country that ever existed is too. people may ask you proudly, what do you think of us?... but answer them in a way that's not gushing with positivity and they take it hard. there's nearly always an element of insecurity about folk, otherwise they can be egotistical arseholes. so people take it hard, because it's a natural response, like you lot do down in kerry when people say you're as thick as shit. a load of old bollocks, but sure that doesn't stop the eejit who generalises now does it?
oh, so Nordies think Kerry people are thick as shit ::)
This is the kind of abuse we have taken from you Nordies for years...and then you get all precious when you get a response. Hypocrites !
you're so predictable... there you go stereotyping "nordie" people (as you call us) and me as having certain thoughts about kerry people. i can only speak for myself, as i'm merely from donegal, and in now way am representative of everyone from donegal, or those you consider to be "nordies" either, but i don't think kerry people are thick as shit. i think you're an ignoramus because you're rude and deliberately offensive, like a true troll, but that's different from thinking you're thick. you're just throw insults at people and when you're taken up on your shitty behaviour you cry foul.
i find your accusation hypocritical if i'm being honest, coming from you who loves to stereotype tyrone people or those you deem as "nordie" people. but if i must clarify my position for you, fair enough... the point i made that you didn't get was that generalisations, including those about people from your own county, or anywhere else for that matter, are a load of old bollocks, i.e, that these generalisations/stereotypes are not a truthful representation of the complexity and diversity of a social group.
so, just to clear things up for you, i think you're rude and ignorant and i don't think people from kerry are thick as shit. does that help you in any way?
For God sake lads, 'Mike Sheehy' is a troll account by someone who divines far too much fun from winding suckers up. I dare you to look through his post history and find a single one that isn't insulting or overly combative. I'd doubt he's even from Kerry and if he is he's Pat Spillane.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 31, 2013, 11:52:25 PM
Thats cause if your naming the best team of the past 30yrs there be likely 6 kerry men on it off hand, u look at the same Tyrone team over the same period you have P Canavan. Kerry had a better team , Tyrone a better system and manager. If the current Donegal team played one on one, they get creamed by Cork and Dublin and possible Tyrone as well. Dara O`Se was better than S Canvanagh, T`OSe was better than P Jordan, the gooch was better than S O`Neill, D 0`Sullivan/P Galvin was better than B Dooher. Tyrone had a very good team, kerry had some legendary players who played in 7 all-irelands.
Its this sort of dung talk that makes me laugh. The system beat Kerry not the players. I have heard some amount of excuses about why Tyrone have beat Kerry over the years, people down that way can't seem to take their beatings, a bit like two Kerry clubs in the past 2 seasons too. Tyrone had a better team than Kerry in the 'noughties', as well as having the better individuals.
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Thats cause if your naming the best team of the past 30yrs there be likely 6 kerry men on it off hand, u look at the same Tyrone team over the same period you have P Canavan. Kerry had a better team , Tyrone a better system and manager. If the current Donegal team played one on one, they get creamed by Cork and Dublin and possible Tyrone as well. Dara O`Se was better than S Canvanagh, T`OSe was better than P Jordan, the gooch was better than S O`Neill, D 0`Sullivan/P Galvin was better than B Dooher. Tyrone had a very good team, kerry had some legendary players who played in 7 all-irelands.
Its this sort of dung talk that makes me laugh. The system beat Kerry not the players. I have heard some amount of excuses about why Tyrone have beat Kerry over the years, people down that way can't seem to take their beatings, a bit like two Kerry clubs in the past 2 seasons too. Tyrone had a better team than Kerry in the 'noughties', as well as having the better individuals.
Dooher more effective than any half forward Kerry had too.
A real sense of DejaVu reading through alot of these posts...
What do people reckon about this weekend? When do Kerry return from Portugal & when will they be making the journey to Omagh? Surely that will be a factor in the Kerry performance, any of the Kerry lads able to enlighten us?
I cant see Mulligan making the match day squad. For various reasons, such as the training he has missed and also the message it sends out to some of the younger players & fringe players.
PP bookmakers make the kingdom slight favourites at 10/11, with Tyrone not far behind at 11/10
TG4 are showing the game live, so that'll be handy for Mike Sheehy!
Quote from: Syferus on April 01, 2013, 10:21:29 PM
For God sake lads, 'Mike Sheehy' is a troll account by someone who divines far too much fun from winding suckers up. I dare you to look through his post history and find a single one that isn't insulting or overly combative. I'd doubt he's even from Kerry and if he is he's Pat Spillane.
all true, but it's dull as f**k when he's not around bless him.
Almost impossible to guess what 15 that Harte will start with, but sure its quiet at work today... I reckon it'll be:
Morgan
McCrory / Clarke / McCarron
Ju McMahon / Gormley / McNamee
Cavanagh / Cavanagh
McNiece / Harte /Jo McMahon
Mark Donnelly / SON / McCurry
At last someone gets back to talking about the match.
I can't see Conor Gormley playing in the half back line any more folks. Actually we've a few players now and whilst they definitely deserve a starting slot, it can be hard to determine what's the best position.
I think Joe is probably best at 6 or maybe alongside Sean in MF.
I hope we see a few of the newer faces in the forward line.
I wonder will Jack O'Connor travel up for some more Noveau Riche sandwiches?
Did Gollum play the last day?
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Quote from: Syferus on April 01, 2013, 10:21:29 PM
For God sake lads, 'Mike Sheehy' is a troll account by someone who divines far too much fun from winding suckers up. I dare you to look through his post history and find a single one that isn't insulting or overly combative. I'd doubt he's even from Kerry and if he is he's Pat Spillane.
Oh god, St Brigid's biggest life-long fan is on my case...what will I do at all, at all ::)
Who is Gollum ?
jump onto film 4 now you see lol
What has Gollum got to do with Colm Cooper ? Fuzzman ?
I still think Kerry will win this for the simple reason that they need to whilst Tyrone are safely tucked into the semis. I don't think there's much between the sides at full pelt but that incentive of avoiding the trapdoor should see the Kingdom home. They've a few of their old hands back as well. I know there's talk of Killarney and all that but that only counts if they meet in a game both have to win.
Would like to see Mickey try a few of the others this weekend. McCurry, Cassidy, Clarke and Ronan O'Neill. See what they can do against the green and gold. Sean hobbled off during training this week so wouldn't be surprised if he's benched to give the midfield a different look. In saying that, predicting Mickey is like preempting the wife.
How do the semis work ?
Is it 1st v 3rd and 2nd v 4th or is there an open draw among the top 4 teams?
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 02, 2013, 11:35:59 PM
What has Gollum got to do with Colm Cooper ? Fuzzman ?
Colm Cooper
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Gollum
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Plonker! ;D :P
Quote from: Gaffer on April 03, 2013, 12:05:35 AM
How do the semis work ?
Is it 1st v 3rd and 2nd v 4th or is there an open draw among the top 4 teams?
I assume it's 1v4 and 2v3
Quote from: ONeill on April 03, 2013, 12:15:43 AM
I assume it's 1v4 and 2v3
Yep:
Sunday April 14th, 2013
Allianz Football League Roinn 1 2013 Semi Final
1st Placed Team
vs.
4th Placed Team
Páirc an Chrócaigh
Allianz Football League Roinn 1 2013 Semi Final
2nd Placed Team
vs.
3rd Placed Team
Páirc an Chrócaigh
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on April 03, 2013, 12:12:37 AM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 02, 2013, 11:35:59 PM
What has Gollum got to do with Colm Cooper ? Fuzzman ?
Colm Cooper
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Gollum
(http://media.irishcentral.com/images/419*266/Jack+O+Connor.jpg)
Plonker! ;D :P
You think it is ok to call Colm Cooper an "plonker" ? and what is the Gollum connection exactly ? Can one of the Tyrone heads explain it just so everybody is clear.
I think these personal attacks on Kerry players are unwarranted. I'd like to know why Fear an srath ban
and Fuzzman think they are ok ?
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 03, 2013, 01:13:17 AM
I think these personal attacks on Kerry players are unwarranted. I'd like to know why Fear an srath ban
and Fuzzman think they are ok ?
I think the greatest single act of disrespect on this board is your choice of keyboard warrior name Mike. Using the name of one of Kerry's greatest ever players and an absolute gentleman as a front for the nonsensical bile that you contribute to this board, shows a lack of respect for the man that goes beyond any petty name calling that may occur here from time to time.
Nice to see Mike Sheehy with the cage well & truely rattled though lol
You'd have to fancy Kerry on Sunday. They'll have the benefit of the Portugal training / bonding week, coming off the back of a victory against their arch nemesis Cork... the old guard returning as well. The thought of getting relegated by Tyrone, in Omagh of all places, will have caused plenty of sleepless nights down there.
Didnt know Sean Cavanagh was an injury worry. Id have started him at 14 if it was my call. The Kerry full back line has been a weakness of the past 18months. Although Mark Griffin could be the answer for them, will be interested to see how he fairs out. If Kerry avoid relegation and unearth a quality full back they could yet look back on this as a good league campaign.
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 03, 2013, 12:36:27 AM
You think it is ok to call Colm Cooper an "plonker" ? and what is the Gollum connection exactly ? Can one of the Tyrone heads explain it just so everybody is clear.
Who's calling Colm Cooper a plonker, YOU plonker!
Quote from: BennyHarp on April 03, 2013, 06:21:48 AM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 03, 2013, 01:13:17 AM
I think these personal attacks on Kerry players are unwarranted. I'd like to know why Fear an srath ban
and Fuzzman think they are ok ?
I think the greatest single act of disrespect on this board is your choice of keyboard warrior name Mike. Using the name of one of Kerry's greatest ever players and an absolute gentleman as a front for the nonsensical bile that you contribute to this board, shows a lack of respect for the man that goes beyond any petty name calling that may occur here from time to time.
I think calling Colm Cooper 'Gollum' shows a lack of respect to him. Or is he fair game for cheap digs?
What's the criteria for who you can and cannot disrespect?
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 03, 2013, 01:13:17 AM
I think these personal attacks on Kerry players are unwarranted. I'd like to know why Fear an srath ban
and Fuzzman think they are ok ?
Sorry about that KM. Was only trying to lighten the mood as this thread has got very serious.
I am worried us Nordies have corrupted yer minds down there and ye've given up on yer total football ethics.
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Has Galvin changed careers again and gone into dentistry?
By the way when does yer club championships start down in Kerry?
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Bunch of animals
In all seriousness I hope this game goes off without any incident and no nonsense. The last thing either of these two counties needs is more bad press. I still think Tyrone will beat them though by 3 points.
Quote from: Tubberman on April 03, 2013, 10:15:19 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on April 03, 2013, 06:21:48 AM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 03, 2013, 01:13:17 AM
I think these personal attacks on Kerry players are unwarranted. I'd like to know why Fear an srath ban
and Fuzzman think they are ok ?
I think the greatest single act of disrespect on this board is your choice of keyboard warrior name Mike. Using the name of one of Kerry's greatest ever players and an absolute gentleman as a front for the nonsensical bile that you contribute to this board, shows a lack of respect for the man that goes beyond any petty name calling that may occur here from time to time.
I think calling Colm Cooper 'Gollum' shows a lack of respect to him. Or is he fair game for cheap digs?
What's the criteria for who you can and cannot disrespect?
I didn't say it wasn't disrespectful to call Colm Cooper, Gollum. My point is, that we have a wind up merchant disrespecting a true legend from his own county every time he posts on here.
Quote from: BennyHarp on April 03, 2013, 10:49:15 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on April 03, 2013, 10:15:19 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on April 03, 2013, 06:21:48 AM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 03, 2013, 01:13:17 AM
I think these personal attacks on Kerry players are unwarranted. I'd like to know why Fear an srath ban
and Fuzzman think they are ok ?
I think the greatest single act of disrespect on this board is your choice of keyboard warrior name Mike. Using the name of one of Kerry's greatest ever players and an absolute gentleman as a front for the nonsensical bile that you contribute to this board, shows a lack of respect for the man that goes beyond any petty name calling that may occur here from time to time.
I think calling Colm Cooper 'Gollum' shows a lack of respect to him. Or is he fair game for cheap digs?
What's the criteria for who you can and cannot disrespect?
I didn't say it wasn't disrespectful to call Colm Cooper, Gollum. My point is, that we have a wind up merchant disrespecting a true legend from his own county every time he posts on here.
To use a word I've learnt from this board, isn't that 'whataboutery'?
Quote from: Tubberman on April 03, 2013, 11:08:04 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on April 03, 2013, 10:49:15 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on April 03, 2013, 10:15:19 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on April 03, 2013, 06:21:48 AM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 03, 2013, 01:13:17 AM
I think these personal attacks on Kerry players are unwarranted. I'd like to know why Fear an srath ban
and Fuzzman think they are ok ?
I think the greatest single act of disrespect on this board is your choice of keyboard warrior name Mike. Using the name of one of Kerry's greatest ever players and an absolute gentleman as a front for the nonsensical bile that you contribute to this board, shows a lack of respect for the man that goes beyond any petty name calling that may occur here from time to time.
I think calling Colm Cooper 'Gollum' shows a lack of respect to him. Or is he fair game for cheap digs?
What's the criteria for who you can and cannot disrespect?
I didn't say it wasn't disrespectful to call Colm Cooper, Gollum. My point is, that we have a wind up merchant disrespecting a true legend from his own county every time he posts on here.
To use a word I've learnt from this board, isn't that 'whataboutery'?
Only every heard it on this board, and I hate it being used.
Good read here
http://sport.irishexaminer.com/post/2013/04/03/A-time-for-tea-sympathy-and-some-healthy-Tyrone-Kerry-rivalry.aspx
Sadly I think he's very accurate with his description of the feeling between both counties.
It was bad enough with just the 3 county victories for Tyrone in the last 10 years but with the 2 club defeats as well which were not pretty games then the bad feelings have really grown.
It would be very hard for anyone to lose a game now between these two counties (player or fan) and to then go and mingle and listen to all the chat after you've lost, when there is such high tension before and during the game.
I wouldn't expect any Kerry fans if they lose on Sunday to want to spend any extra time chatting with Tyrone people in all seriousness.
Just read the Gaelic life today and I think I've underestimated how big this game is for both counties.
By all accounts I think they are expecting near a full house. When was the last time that happened for a league game?
With Kerry having their intensive training camp this week and with probably a near full complement of players to call from, it sounds like Kerry will come all guns blazing with a focused driven outfit who for the first time in years will perhaps be at championship level this early in the year.
Reading some of the Tyrone posters earlier I thought there was an element of reverse psychology or cute hoorism as we like to say but I am not so sure now. We have done very well this year so far but I don't know if our current defence can hold a forward line consisting of Gooch, Donaghy, two O'Sullivans & Galvin. Those lads are not done yet I'd suspect and having spent the whole week focused on this game with so many training sessions you would imagine their hunger and motivation will be higher than that of Tyrone's.
I see both Buckley and Curtin have both scored 3 goals each
Hopefully we don't get another performance from Tyrone like they had with Cork and who knows we might even see Mugsy for 5 mins.
If Kerry win I'd say they'll be happy to come in for tea and sandwiches as long as we promise not to spit in them first. ;)
Looking forward to this one. I don't know how pretty the football will be but there should be some serious exchanges to enjoys.
I think it's okay to be disrespectful towards someone who doesn't deserve it as long as you're only doing it to wind up someone who does deserve it.
Biggest crowd I can remember for a league game in Healy Pk was when we played Derry a few months after our infamous cship meeting in 1995.Sunday may well top that.
Chances are kerry will go down even if they win, but anyway they'l be up for a good performance to build towards championship, which is what their training camp would have been about not this league game.
Pressure on tyrone, they are at home and have been flying all year but i fancy kerry to cause an upset
Should be a good crowd but considering Tyrone have nothing too play for can't see it being as big even as the Donegal game. The biggest league crowds for a non knockout game I can think of in recent years were the first game under lights v Fermanagh, Dublin after winning the All Ireland and maybe a Kerry game. Have a notion there was about 15000 at the Galway league semi in 04.
Will be interesting to see Harte's selection.
Wait no longer
QuoteComórtas: Sraith Náisiúnta Peil
Cluiche: Tír Eoghain v Ciarraí
Ionad: Páirc Uí hÉilí, An Omaigh
Dáta: 07- 04-13
1 Niall Morgan Éadan na dTorc
2 Aidan McCrory Aireagal Chiaráin
3 Justin McMahon An Omaigh
4 Cathal McCarron An Droim Mór
5 Ryan McKenna Eaglais
6 Joe McMahon An Omaigh
7 Ronan McNamee Achadh Uí Aráin
8 Colm Cavanagh An Mhaigh
9 Sean Cavanagh An Mhaigh
10 Patrick McNiece Oileán a'Ghuail
11 Peter Harte Aireagal Chiaráin
12 Mark Donnelly An Charraig Mhór
13 Darren McCurry Éadán na dTorc
14 Stephen O'Neill Clann na nGael
15 Ronan O'Neill An Omaigh
16 Pascal McConnell An Baile Nua
17 Conor Clarke An Omaigh
18 Matthew Donnelly Trí Leac
19 Conor Gormley An Charraig Mhór
20 Conan Grugan An Omaigh
21 Plunkett Kane Oileán a'Ghuail
22 Connor McAliskey Cluain Eo
23 Tiernan McCann Coill an Chlochair
24 Ciaran McGinley Aireagal Chiaráin
25 Michael Murphy An Gallbhaile
26 Martin Penrose An Charraig Mhór
A few players I'm still not convinced with but its a strong team. Good too see Justy back and getting a few games in the league. Also will be good to get another look at McCurry and Ronan O'Neill. Would guess one of the O'Neill's will pull out the pitch. I'd have liked to have seen Clarke get a go at right half back.
Good solid team, hopefully young O'Neill and McCurry get plenty of early ball. If they can get the confidence going we could have some excellent options come the summer. Something we've been missing over the last number of years has been explosive pace. There's heaps of it through that 15 which will hopefully cause those aul boys from the kingdom all sorts of headaches.
Tyrone 1-14 Kerry 2-09
The Red Hands are for Sam...Yeeeeeooo! ;)
Aidan Cassidy must be injured. Dissapointing that as he had been making a good contribution there in the last few games.
He's probably not named in the first 26. I see no tickets will be on sale outside the ground according to @tyronegaalive on twitter. Will all Kerry fans have tickets?
Fuzz, think u picked that up wrong. Tickets ARE definitely available outside the ground.
Think you missed the apostrophe there Fuzz. :)
"@FireChild_ No, tickets will be available at the ground on Sunday."
Apostrophe, where? :)
Strong team, will be interesting! ;)
Just don't embarrass the whole association this time.
Folks, I am sure by this stage you've read of Owen Roes' support for the 'Time for Terri' campaign on websites, or via the printed media. Terri was a young ladies footballer at our Club who died a week after her 16th birthday after contracting meningitis.
There's now a vaccine that can prevent most strains of Men B and we at Owen Roes are supporting the Devine family's mission to get the vaccinne implemented.
The Devine family, and volunteers from our Club will be at Healy Park on Sunday trying to get as many signatures as they can. Please can you take 1 minute and stop and sign.
Or, you can beat the queue, and go here and sign today. www.timeforterri.co.uk (http://www.timeforterri.co.uk)
Thanks
This will be another real test for Tyrone. They're going to be up against one of the best teams in Ireland who will be fired up for the game due to the circumstances. I'd say it will be the hungriest team they'll have faced in the league this year. Tyrone will have plenty of incentive to win too though and there is strong competition for places. Could really go either way. Its great to get these tests this year ahead of the championship.
The aul eyesight is joining to go boyz
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on April 04, 2013, 10:12:45 PM
Apostrophe, where? :)
Strong team, will be interesting! ;)
:-[ ;D
Comma, just don't tell Hardy. I was thinking of the Apostrophe police when I typed it.
No bitterness in Tyrone you say?
Quote
McGuigan warns relegation could be 'payback' for Kerry
Friday, April 05, 2013
By John Fogarty
Outspoken former Tyrone player Brian McGuigan believes sending Kerry down to Division 2 next season would be "payback" for last year's All-Ireland qualifier defeat in Killarney.
Ahead of Sunday's game in Omagh, current Tyrone defender Aidan McCrory admitted they "would love to win and put them down" as much as he insists Kerry want to beat them and remain in the top flight.
McGuigan drew ire in Kerry in February when he said the county should forget about winning an All-Ireland title for the next six or seven years. After being sent off in his last game in a Tyrone jersey last July, he also claimed Declan O'Sullivan exaggerated an injury to convince David Coldrick to issue McGuigan a red card.
Now he feels a victory in Healy Park would be suitable revenge for the 10-point defeat in FitzgeraldStadium nine months ago.
"There's a huge interest in this game and because of all the sideshows with the club games and player spats there's more of a spotlight on this Sunday's game than on any other National League game.
"The fact that Kerry's very future in Division One depends on it makes it a very unique occasion," McGuigan wrote in his Gaelic Life column.
"The fact that Tyrone have the opportunity to send them down would, in many people's eyes, be some sort of payback for what went on down in Killarney last year. Tyrone, I'm sure, will see it that way. I've heard it said a few times in recent weeks that you wouldn't like to see Kerry relegated, but not too many people were shedding tears or saying those sorts of things whenever Tyrone got relegated a few years back [2010]."
McGuigan has called on Tyrone supporters to make Healy Park as difficult a place for the visitors as Kerry fans made it for them in Killarney.
"I'd urge every Tyrone supporter to get themselves to Omagh. We experienced the white hot atmosphere in Kerry last year in the qualifiers, and I think that it's only but right that we try to recreate that same atmosphere up here for Kerry's visit on Sunday."
Although McGuigan feels Tyrone will find it hard to match Kerry's intensity on Sunday, he says his remarks about the Kingdom two months ago have been justified by their difficulties in Division 1.
"When I did my article earlier in the year I said Kerry football was struggling, and they were."
I wasn't down in Killarney myself last year but I spoke to quite a few that were and they were shocked at the vitriol from the Kerry fans and then the relief and friendliness after the game towards Harte & the Tyrone players.
Was there any neutrals from the board at that game? What was their take on it?
I can't see any hassle at the game this weekend whatsoever.
When does the Kerry team usually be named?
This is simmering nicely.
Clearly Tyrone will have to win or all credibility built up over the years will be gone. Remember when they hadn't lost in fortress Omagh in the League for a few years? To allow Kerry to travel up and win would be bad, but imagine Galvin, Gooch and co winning and jumping up and down and high fiving, (4 in Gollum's case) in Healy Park. In front of the home fans?
No good would come of that.
Tyrone by 4.
Strong Kerry teams named:
Kerry (v Ty): Kealy; M ÓSé, Griffin, Enright; TÓSé, Brosnan, Young; Maher, Buckley; Lyne, Cooper, Galvin; Declan O'Sull, Donaghy, Darran OS.
Quote from: Zulu on April 05, 2013, 01:18:07 PM
Strong Kerry teams named:
Kerry (v Ty): Kealy; M ÓSé, Griffin, Enright; TÓSé, Brosnan, Young; Maher, Buckley; Lyne, Cooper, Galvin; Declan O'Sull, Donaghy, Darran OS.
Kerry pretty much full tilt. Id have Griffin ahead of O'Mahoney at full back even if he was fit. David Moran would get in that 15 i suppose, buts its not far away from the 15 most kerry fans would want on the pitch
That FF line could certainly do some damage if left exposed at all.
Big game from Justy and McCarron needed.
Wouldn't be surprised if these two teams meet later on in the year again, hopefully not in Munster this year.
going down is one thing, but going down to the red hand is another. kerry will be desperate to not let that happen. will tyrone have enough of an edge about them either? tough game to call even with tyrone being the form team.
Quote from: muppet on April 05, 2013, 12:32:13 PM
This is simmering nicely.
Clearly Tyrone will have to win or all credibility built up over the years will be gone. Remember when they hadn't lost in fortress Omagh in the League for a few years? To allow Kerry to travel up and win would be bad, but imagine Galvin, Gooch and co winning and jumping up and down and high fiving, (4 in Gollum's case) in Healy Park. In front of the home fans?
No good would come of that.
Tyrone by 4.
Naw Tyrone have nothing to lose on this occasion. Kerry, with the full line up, will be devastated if they can't put away a Tyrone team already looking to the semi's. A loss here and the animals back home won't be happy. Stewarts have been warned to expect rampant outpouring of Ecstasy upon the final whistle as Kerry's all Ireland gets earlier each year.
(http://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.1350159.1365168612!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_600/image.jpg)
Galvin could prove a right handful for this big game.
Some interesting points in here too.
http://kerrygaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=4780 (http://kerrygaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=4780)
Match preview here if anyone wants to take a look:
http://www.livegaelic.com/news/allianz-football-league-preview-tyrone-vs-kerry/
Delighted to see Gooch on the 40, he's so effective as a playmaker and has been unfortunately marginalised at times in recent seasons playing inside amongst rafts of defenders.
Having such a powerful FF line inside being fed by Gooch could be very effective. Gooch is the sort of player you want on the ball as much as possible, having him out in a bit of space could be great.
The findings of the investigation into the spitting claims that followed the All-Ireland intermediate club final between Finuge and Fr Rocks of Cookstown will not be made known until next week at the earliest.
Officially the investigation is still 'ongoing' but the speculation is that the findings have been withheld to avoid stoking up any further tensions ahead of Kerry's visit to Omagh this weekend. The Central Competitions Control Committee have been poring over video evidence after clips allegedly showing spitting incidents surfaced on YouTube.
Almost four weeks have passed since the first clip, which appears to show Paul Galvin being spat at, entered the public domain, fuelling the belief that they are holding off with any proposed suspensions until after the weekend game.
Galvin has since confirmed that he was spat at and strongly distanced himself from Owen Mulligan's claims that there had been sectarian abuse during the match.
Keane if you want to add this google map link to your site for any Kerry fans who do want to stop off at Garvaghy.
Kellys inn just on the main road is a good place to get nice food and even to stay overnight.
It's not to far from where Mickey Harte is from.
http://goo.gl/maps/NW8C6 (http://goo.gl/maps/NW8C6)
Fair play fuzzman, great idea - I'll add that now. Thanks!
Quote from: Fuzzman on April 05, 2013, 02:59:11 PM
(http://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.1350159.1365168612!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_600/image.jpg)
Galvin could prove a right handful for this big game.
Some interesting points in here too.
http://kerrygaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=4780 (http://kerrygaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=4780)
how come the Tyrone GAA website does not have a forum ?
and which one of you is posting as "Dermot" on the Kerry gaa website ?
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 05, 2013, 08:50:10 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on April 05, 2013, 02:59:11 PM
(http://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.1350159.1365168612!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_600/image.jpg)
Galvin could prove a right handful for this big game.
Some interesting points in here too.
http://kerrygaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=4780 (http://kerrygaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=4780)
how come the Tyrone GAA website does not have a forum ?
and which one of you is posting as "Dermot" on the Kerry gaa website ?
It is probably Galvin.
Quote from: Fuzzman on April 05, 2013, 10:53:59 AM
I wasn't down in Killarney myself last year but I spoke to quite a few that were and they were shocked at the vitriol from the Kerry fans and then the relief and friendliness after the game towards Harte & the Tyrone players.
Was there any neutrals from the board at that game? What was their take on it?
I can't see any hassle at the game this weekend whatsoever.
Lies. We've been hearing this guff for a year now and there is no truth to it.
Strange how no neutrals responded to your post ::)
Looks like Mike is getting worried!
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 05, 2013, 09:05:39 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on April 05, 2013, 10:53:59 AM
I wasn't down in Killarney myself last year but I spoke to quite a few that were and they were shocked at the vitriol from the Kerry fans and then the relief and friendliness after the game towards Harte & the Tyrone players.
Was there any neutrals from the board at that game? What was their take on it?
I can't see any hassle at the game this weekend whatsoever.
Lies. We've been hearing this guff for a year now and there is no truth to it.
Strange how no neutrals responded to your post ::)
Are we all anti-Sheehites now?
Quote from: muppet on April 05, 2013, 09:16:22 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 05, 2013, 09:05:39 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on April 05, 2013, 10:53:59 AM
I wasn't down in Killarney myself last year but I spoke to quite a few that were and they were shocked at the vitriol from the Kerry fans and then the relief and friendliness after the game towards Harte & the Tyrone players.
Was there any neutrals from the board at that game? What was their take on it?
I can't see any hassle at the game this weekend whatsoever.
Lies. We've been hearing this guff for a year now and there is no truth to it.
Strange how no neutrals responded to your post ::)
Are we all anti-Sheehites now?
anti-Semitism is more your thing I'd say
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 05, 2013, 09:18:00 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 05, 2013, 09:16:22 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 05, 2013, 09:05:39 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on April 05, 2013, 10:53:59 AM
I wasn't down in Killarney myself last year but I spoke to quite a few that were and they were shocked at the vitriol from the Kerry fans and then the relief and friendliness after the game towards Harte & the Tyrone players.
Was there any neutrals from the board at that game? What was their take on it?
I can't see any hassle at the game this weekend whatsoever.
Lies. We've been hearing this guff for a year now and there is no truth to it.
Strange how no neutrals responded to your post ::)
Are we all anti-Sheehites now?
anti-Semitism is more your thing I'd say
You'd know. ::)
Truth is Kerry spending a yr in division 2 will do them no harm as they be fit to blood new players alot easier out of the spotlight. if they lose on Sunday i couldnt seen it overly bothering them, as truth is, they have been struggling badly all year and along with Down are probably having the poorest league run in div 1. All the Tyrone people are talking them well up here though just encase Kerry beat them, but i think Tyrone will likely win this game handy enough even though they bad poor enough in Omagh these days.
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Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 05, 2013, 09:18:00 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 05, 2013, 09:16:22 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 05, 2013, 09:05:39 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on April 05, 2013, 10:53:59 AM
I wasn't down in Killarney myself last year but I spoke to quite a few that were and they were shocked at the vitriol from the Kerry fans and then the relief and friendliness after the game towards Harte & the Tyrone players.
Was there any neutrals from the board at that game? What was their take on it?
I can't see any hassle at the game this weekend whatsoever.
Lies. We've been hearing this guff for a year now and there is no truth to it.
Strange how no neutrals responded to your post ::)
Are we all anti-Sheehites now?
anti-Semitism is more your thing I'd say
You'd know. ::)
I know how to spot one, that's for sure.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 05, 2013, 09:28:08 PM
Truth is Kerry spending a yr in division 2 will do them no harm as they be fit to blood new players alot easier out of the spotlight. if they lose on Sunday i couldnt seen it overly bothering them, as truth is, they have been struggling badly all year and along with Down are probably having the poorest league run in div 1. All the Tyrone people are talking them well up here though just encase Kerry beat them, but i think Tyrone will likely win this game handy enough even though they bad poor enough in Omagh these days.
You are correct. We are going through a transition period for sure. Nevertheless, if the roles were reversed and we were at home to Tyrone we'd be expecting to beat them comfortably....but , you know these Tyrone lads ::) They cant win unless they are the underdog so they will move heaven and earth build up Kerry and downplay themselves.
It is a classic sign of the inferiority complex they have with regard to Kerry which I alluded to earlier in the thread. They simply can't win without that underdog crutch to lean on.
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 05, 2013, 09:29:32 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 05, 2013, 09:24:39 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 05, 2013, 09:18:00 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 05, 2013, 09:16:22 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 05, 2013, 09:05:39 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on April 05, 2013, 10:53:59 AM
I wasn't down in Killarney myself last year but I spoke to quite a few that were and they were shocked at the vitriol from the Kerry fans and then the relief and friendliness after the game towards Harte & the Tyrone players.
Was there any neutrals from the board at that game? What was their take on it?
I can't see any hassle at the game this weekend whatsoever.
Lies. We've been hearing this guff for a year now and there is no truth to it.
Strange how no neutrals responded to your post ::)
Are we all anti-Sheehites now?
anti-Semitism is more your thing I'd say
You'd know. ::)
I know how to spot one, that's for sure.
Good man. You would be my top pick for schoolyard insults. You could even do well in it.
Quote from: muppet on April 05, 2013, 09:55:12 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 05, 2013, 09:29:32 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 05, 2013, 09:24:39 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 05, 2013, 09:18:00 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 05, 2013, 09:16:22 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 05, 2013, 09:05:39 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on April 05, 2013, 10:53:59 AM
I wasn't down in Killarney myself last year but I spoke to quite a few that were and they were shocked at the vitriol from the Kerry fans and then the relief and friendliness after the game towards Harte & the Tyrone players.
Was there any neutrals from the board at that game? What was their take on it?
I can't see any hassle at the game this weekend whatsoever.
Lies. We've been hearing this guff for a year now and there is no truth to it.
Strange how no neutrals responded to your post ::)
Are we all anti-Sheehites now?
anti-Semitism is more your thing I'd say
You'd know. ::)
I know how to spot one, that's for sure.
Good man. You would be my top pick for schoolyard insults. You could even do well in it.
You have schoolyard views on complex subjects so perhaps its the best way to get through to you.
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 05, 2013, 10:11:37 PM
You have schoolyard views on complex subjects so perhaps its the best way to get through to you.
Good man. The first step is admitting it.
Stick with this step for a while.
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 05, 2013, 09:44:48 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 05, 2013, 09:28:08 PM
Truth is Kerry spending a yr in division 2 will do them no harm as they be fit to blood new players alot easier out of the spotlight. if they lose on Sunday i couldnt seen it overly bothering them, as truth is, they have been struggling badly all year and along with Down are probably having the poorest league run in div 1. All the Tyrone people are talking them well up here though just encase Kerry beat them, but i think Tyrone will likely win this game handy enough even though they bad poor enough in Omagh these days.
You are correct. We are going through a transition period for sure. Nevertheless, if the roles were reversed and we were at home to Tyrone we'd be expecting to beat them comfortably....but , you know these Tyrone lads ::) They cant win unless they are the underdog so they will move heaven and earth build up Kerry and downplay themselves.
It is a classic sign of the inferiority complex they have with regard to Kerry which I alluded to earlier in the thread. They simply can't win without that underdog crutch to lean on.
Jesus Mike for a second there I thought you were actually going to talk football when I read your first sentence. However, it didn't take long for that particular bubble to burst!
Mike Shitey is shitting his shitey togs I see! :)
Quote from: muppet on April 05, 2013, 10:14:18 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 05, 2013, 10:11:37 PM
You have schoolyard views on complex subjects so perhaps its the best way to get through to you.
Good man. The first step is admitting it.
Stick with this step for a while.
Well that was a crap response ::)
I suggest you run along to the Cork v Mayo thread. You have not graced that thread with your rapier wit much have you ?
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on April 05, 2013, 10:20:07 PM
Mike Shitey is shitting his shitey togs I see! :)
;D ;D ;D
Ah cmon....you can do better than that, surely
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 05, 2013, 10:24:01 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 05, 2013, 10:14:18 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 05, 2013, 10:11:37 PM
You have schoolyard views on complex subjects so perhaps its the best way to get through to you.
Good man. The first step is admitting it.
Stick with this step for a while.
Well that was a crap response ::)
I suggest you run along to the Cork v Mayo thread. You have not graced that thread with your rapier wit much have you ?
Why do you feel the need to tell everyone what to do all the time?
Do you experience high levels of frustration?
Quote from: muppet on April 05, 2013, 10:36:09 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 05, 2013, 10:24:01 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 05, 2013, 10:14:18 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 05, 2013, 10:11:37 PM
You have schoolyard views on complex subjects so perhaps its the best way to get through to you.
Good man. The first step is admitting it.
Stick with this step for a while.
Well that was a crap response ::)
I suggest you run along to the Cork v Mayo thread. You have not graced that thread with your rapier wit much have you ?
Why do you feel the need to tell everyone what to do all the time?
Do you experience high levels of frustration?
Let it go Muppet. The only one getting frustrated here is you.
I certainly wouldn't be playing down Tyrone's chances on Sunday and, by God I hope we send these pompous bletherers down for a while, while the new breed of footballers get on with establishing a new order in the top tier. The white, venomous heat of Fitzgerald Stadium will never be recreated as we haven't been hurt by defeat as the Kerry folk have been this past decade. However, a bit of banter wouldn't go astray...
Quote from: Whishtup on April 05, 2013, 10:43:18 PM
I certainly wouldn't be playing down Tyrone's chances on Sunday and, by God I hope we send these pompous bletherers down for a while, while the new breed of footballers get on with establishing a new order in the top tier. The white, venomous heat of Fitzgerald Stadium will never be recreated as we haven't been hurt by defeat as the Kerry folk have been this past decade. However, a bit of banter wouldn't go astray...
That's more like it.
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 05, 2013, 10:41:44 PM
Let it go Muppet. The only one getting frustrated here is you.
I seem to have touched a nerve.
Ok I'll it go. I am only distracting you from an important mission. There are Tyronies that need winding up by the sight of you here. Give them clues as to where you'll be sitting in Healy Park, for the craic like.
Sheehy is correct in everything he says.
Tyronnies have a serious inferiority complex when it comes to Kerry and very few in the Red Hand County give the Kingdom the respect they deserve for playing our games at the highest level for 100 years. Our recent victories over Kerry have been danced on, forgetting the hammerings they handed out to us over the years.
We should be honoured to entertain the Kingdom up in our patch.
Great to see the animals getting excited about this one. I remember when we used to get excited about playing Kerry, fun, innocent days.
Quote from: ONeill on April 05, 2013, 11:30:55 PM
Sheehy is correct in everything he says.
Tyronnies have a serious inferiority complex when it comes to Kerry and very few in the Red Hand County give the Kingdom the respect they deserve for playing our games at the highest level for 100 years. Our recent victories over Kerry have been danced on, forgetting the hammerings they handed out to us over the years.
We should be honoured to entertain the Kingdom up in our patch.
It's Tyronies not Tyronnies.
Get your shit in gear O'Neill.
I will never make that mistake again.
Tyrone care much more about what Kerry think of them than vice versa. I think that is the root of
it all , really.
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 06, 2013, 02:14:16 AM
Tyrone care much more about what Kerry think of them than vice versa. I think that is the root of
it all , really.
I'd say Paul Galvin's tears after the victory in a qualifier last year tell a different story. You are probably right though, Kerry in the past couldn't care less about Tyrone and patted us on the head after 86 saying well done lads you put up a good fight. I'm sure Kerry folk like yourself are lovely to Mayo people, but the picture changes when you get beaten in an All Ireland semi. And it gets worse when you get beaten again, but this time in a final and by the time the third beating comes along in another final you lot are steaming from your ears. Throw in a few victories by Tyrone club sides over you and there is a generation of people like yourself who are obsessed with Tyrone but just can't bring yourself to admit it, as you have never had to deal with a county who, constantly, were handing you your arses on a plate and didn't stand back in awe. Now that brings us back up to date and great Kerry players who have won it all, shed tears after a qualifier. It's a beautiful story and I have enjoyed every minute of it. Mike, your ramblings make it even more enjoyable and for that I thank you.
Has anyone got a history of Tyrone Kerry results, league and all going back as far as they can?
Was chatting to a lad yesterday who had put a tenner on Kerry to win this year's All-Ireland. Sundays result doesn't matter he said as Kerry will have the best squad come summer.
Potentially the best team alright but no way will they have the best panel.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on April 06, 2013, 11:41:56 AM
Was chatting to a lad yesterday who had put a tenner on Kerry to win this year's All-Ireland. Sundays result doesn't matter he said as Kerry will have the best squad come summer.
A tenner?? Your mate must be fairly confident!
Quote from: Aaron Boone on April 06, 2013, 11:41:56 AM
Was chatting to a lad yesterday who had put a tenner on Kerry to win this year's All-Ireland. Sundays result doesn't matter he said as Kerry will have the best squad come summer.
A fool and his money are easy parted
Quote from: Zulu on April 06, 2013, 11:56:50 AM
Potentially the best team alright but no way will they have the best panel.
+1
A lethal first 15 when on song, however, I think their wider panel is their achilles heel.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/billy-keane-kerrytyrone-rivalry-has-gone-too-far-its-a-game-not-a-war-29177772.html
The fact is the Kerry-Tyrone rivalry has gone too far. It's a game. Not a war. A long-time Kerry supporter asked me this week if he would be safe in Omagh.
I was kidnapped in Tyrone. On the way to a wedding. It was in Augher. In McKenna's pub. The best GAA pub up north and it was the first time I was ever at a lock-in during the middle of the day.
I always found the welcome over the border is based on a genuine appreciation that you've made the effort to come north. I left with a speech from the countertop. We would be back with Sam, I promised. There was drink involved. I haven't been back since.
Quote from: leenie on April 06, 2013, 06:56:25 PM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/billy-keane-kerrytyrone-rivalry-has-gone-too-far-its-a-game-not-a-war-29177772.html
The fact is the Kerry-Tyrone rivalry has gone too far. It's a game. Not a war. A long-time Kerry supporter asked me this week if he would be safe in Omagh.
I was kidnapped in Tyrone. On the way to a wedding. It was in Augher. In McKenna's pub. The best GAA pub up north and it was the first time I was ever at a lock-in during the middle of the day.
I always found the welcome over the border is based on a genuine appreciation that you've made the effort to come north. I left with a speech from the countertop. We would be back with Sam, I promised. There was drink involved. I haven't been back since.
It's a pity they let him go.
aways enjoy Billy Keanes articles-better than Brehony or Keys
Quote from: maigheo on April 06, 2013, 08:03:36 PM
aways enjoy Billy Keanes articles-better than Brehony or Keys
Typical Kerry bull-shitter in the media, he has plenty of worse examples than this one. O'Cinneide and O'Keeffe write good pieces though.
Quote from: Jinxy on April 06, 2013, 07:37:41 PM
Quote from: leenie on April 06, 2013, 06:56:25 PM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/billy-keane-kerrytyrone-rivalry-has-gone-too-far-its-a-game-not-a-war-29177772.html
The fact is the Kerry-Tyrone rivalry has gone too far. It's a game. Not a war. A long-time Kerry supporter asked me this week if he would be safe in Omagh.
I was kidnapped in Tyrone. On the way to a wedding. It was in Augher. In McKenna's pub. The best GAA pub up north and it was the first time I was ever at a lock-in during the middle of the day.
I always found the welcome over the border is based on a genuine appreciation that you've made the effort to come north. I left with a speech from the countertop. We would be back with Sam, I promised. There was drink involved. I haven't been back since.
It's a pity they let him go.
This means someone shook hands with him in Keane speak.
An interview with Eamon Fitz in the examiner, remember he played for Finuge in the resent spitfest. 99% of Kerry supporters would concur. The media as usual have a lot to answer for.
Fitzmaurice: There will be no sideshows
Saturday, April 06, 2013
By Murt Murphy
Much of the pre-match build up has been dominated by tales of a growing bitterness between the counties stretching back to their All-Ireland final meetings in the last decade.
But Fitzmaurice expressed disappointment at claims and counter claims of such a poisonous rivalry, adding that he had nothing but respect for Tyrone and their manager, Mickey Harte.
The Kerry boss said: "I played in 2003 and 2005 and we had no problem as a group of players in accepting that Tyrone was the better team. In 2008, there was nothing between the teams, with Tyrone winning thanks to a Paschal McConnell save right at the end of the game. We had massive respect for that group of players and for Mikey Harte and for what they achieved. Speaking as a former player, I have massive respect for all those Tyrone players. I am disappointed with some of the stuff that has gone on in the media in recent times and you can only conclude that maybe its coming from those who have moved on from the scene and might still wanting to keep their names in the picture. Any time I have met those Tyrone players socially or anything, there is huge respect there. The same applies to Mickey Harte whom I have huge respect for and what he has achieved, what he goes through and he still there at the coalface, still applying himself as well as ever, developing another team, probably his third or fourth. So it is disappointing some of the stuff that is going on in the media. We are not looking at any of the sideshows on Sunday. We are going up to play a football game, nothing else."
Lose tomorrow and Kerry will drop down to Division Two. Win, and the Kerry camp will be relying on results elsewhere to decide their fate. Fitzmaurice hopes to at least finish the campaign with a win. "If we win Sunday and go down, we will be unlucky to down on six points. As disappointing as that will be at least you will be approaching the championship in a positive frame of mind and with a bit of momentum. If we lose on Sunday and go down – then yes it will be very disappointing. Four points from the league will not be good enough, and I would not be happy with it. If we had got a result in Kildare we could be going to Omagh to play for a semi-final place."
Fitzmaurice has handed starts to Eoin Brosnan, Colm Cooper and Paul Galvin for the game which will be televised live on TG4.
Fair play Mr FitzMaurice. At least he's setting a good example. Think I'd rather Kerry stay up and we avoid Cork in the semi.
Quote from: Fuzzman on April 07, 2013, 11:20:53 AM
Fair play Mr FitzMaurice. At least he's setting a good example. Think I'd rather Kerry stay up and we avoid Cork in the semi.
I'd rather face Cork and avenge our only defeat this year. Shaping up to be a great day weather wise. Here's hoping for a high quality game minus unsavory incidents. When both teams come to play football the results can be spectacular.
I'm usually uncharacteristically confident when playing Kerry but I fear for our full back line today, particularly the corner backs. Hope I'm wrong.
Quote from: ONeill on April 07, 2013, 11:31:19 AM
I'm usually uncharacteristically confident when playing Kerry but I fear for our full back line today, particularly the corner backs. Hope I'm wrong.
The only time I've been this confident of a Tyrone victory over Kerry, was last year in the qualifers. That in itself, worries me.
There's that much sand on the pitch the subs are sitting in deck-chairs.
Pitch in Omagh is like the Sahara desert. Kerry should be well acclimatised.
The game has been stopped while one of the umpires hunts a camel off the pitch.
Kerry running riot so far, that warm weather training camp seems to have done the trick. Donaghy causing all sorts of trouble.
6 to 1pt
This'll be over by half-time if Tyrone aren't careful.
Time to 'slow things down' a bit.
Only consolation is this is a meaningless game for Tyrone! :P
Kerry look much sharper.
Donaghy destroying Justin McMahon. Tomas O Se schooling McNeice.
Kerry also defensively sound - playing the modern game.
Kerry currently fashioning a new arse for Tyrone. They could be home and hosed at this stage!
The mahon's, mc carron, colm, mcniece and mckenna have been f**king shocking. Moving Mark Donnelly to half forward has been shite as well.
Donaghy unlucky there.
Tyrone clawing their way back into the game.
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Tyrone would be better just taking their points at this stage.
Inexperience from McCurry and McNeice there.
Gooch on the 40 works very well.
The phrase 'turn on a sixpence' was coined (arf) with him in mind.
You want him to have the ball in his hands as much as possible.
Kerry tagging on some lovely points now.
12 pts to 4. Kerry will be chuffed.
Tomas O Se getting the run of the field. Do something Mickey FFS.
Ffs wake up Tyrone, Mayo asleep down in Cork too. :(
Quote from: Jinxy on April 07, 2013, 03:28:27 PM
Gooch on the 40 works very well.
The phrase 'turn on a sixpence' was coined (arf) with him in mind.
You want him to have the ball in his hands as much as possible.
Kerry tagging on some lovely points now.
Kerry are playing brilliant football but I don't understand them playing Cooper CHF. If I was an opposition manager I would love to see him playing deep.
Brutal.
We've no defenders. That'll always be shown up against good forwards.
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Quote from: Jinxy on April 07, 2013, 03:28:27 PM
Gooch on the 40 works very well.
The phrase 'turn on a sixpence' was coined (arf) with him in mind.
You want him to have the ball in his hands as much as possible.
Kerry tagging on some lovely points now.
Kerry are playing brilliant football but I don't understand them playing Cooper CHF. If I was an opposition manager I would love to see him playing deep.
He's running the show and Kerry are scoring for fun.
I doubt Mickey is loving it so far.
Kerry hunting in packs like ravenous dogs... swarm defending.....3rd man tackling...puking Pat won't like it.... or maybe he will.
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Gooch on the 40 works very well.
The phrase 'turn on a sixpence' was coined (arf) with him in mind.
You want him to have the ball in his hands as much as possible.
Kerry tagging on some lovely points now.
Kerry are playing brilliant football but I don't understand them playing Cooper CHF. If I was an opposition manager I would love to see him playing deep.
He's running the show and Kerry are scoring for fun.
I doubt Mickey is loving it so far.
There is no doubt he is playing well but so are the rest of the Kerry forwards. Just can't see it working further down the line. Why bring your biggest scoring threat further from goal. Simply stick a man marker on him and he will be ineffective.
Just try to win the second half.
This is like the hammering they gave us a few years ago in Healy in the first half. We'll see now what they're made of.
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Quote from: Jinxy on April 07, 2013, 03:28:27 PM
Gooch on the 40 works very well.
The phrase 'turn on a sixpence' was coined (arf) with him in mind.
You want him to have the ball in his hands as much as possible.
Kerry tagging on some lovely points now.
Kerry are playing brilliant football but I don't understand them playing Cooper CHF. If I was an opposition manager I would love to see him playing deep.
He's running the show and Kerry are scoring for fun.
I doubt Mickey is loving it so far.
There is no doubt he is playing well but so are the rest of the Kerry forwards. Just can't see it working further down the line. Why bring your biggest scoring threat further from goal. Simply stick a man marker on him and he will be ineffective.
Seriously? I am surprised no one tries that on him when he is closer to goal.
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Quote from: Jinxy on April 07, 2013, 03:28:27 PM
Gooch on the 40 works very well.
The phrase 'turn on a sixpence' was coined (arf) with him in mind.
You want him to have the ball in his hands as much as possible.
Kerry tagging on some lovely points now.
Kerry are playing brilliant football but I don't understand them playing Cooper CHF. If I was an opposition manager I would love to see him playing deep.
He's running the show and Kerry are scoring for fun.
I doubt Mickey is loving it so far.
There is no doubt he is playing well but so are the rest of the Kerry forwards. Just can't see it working further down the line. Why bring your biggest scoring threat further from goal. Simply stick a man marker on him and he will be ineffective.
One man-marker?
It's easier to man-mark him closer to goals.
Now he's just drifting all over the pitch.
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Gooch on the 40 works very well.
The phrase 'turn on a sixpence' was coined (arf) with him in mind.
You want him to have the ball in his hands as much as possible.
Kerry tagging on some lovely points now.
Kerry are playing brilliant football but I don't understand them playing Cooper CHF. If I was an opposition manager I would love to see him playing deep.
He's running the show and Kerry are scoring for fun.
I doubt Mickey is loving it so far.
There is no doubt he is playing well but so are the rest of the Kerry forwards. Just can't see it working further down the line. Why bring your biggest scoring threat further from goal. Simply stick a man marker on him and he will be ineffective.
Seriously? I am surprised no one tries that on him when he is closer to goal.
I'm presuming that is an attempt at sarcasm, he is getting more room against that Tyrone defence than he would in a junior club match.
Kerry should be 20 points up if they took their goal chances, which is how much they'll need to win to avoid relegation going by current standings
Can see Kerry just sitting back now and trying out their new defensive system.
Hopefully.
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Quote from: Jinxy on April 07, 2013, 03:28:27 PM
Gooch on the 40 works very well.
The phrase 'turn on a sixpence' was coined (arf) with him in mind.
You want him to have the ball in his hands as much as possible.
Kerry tagging on some lovely points now.
Kerry are playing brilliant football but I don't understand them playing Cooper CHF. If I was an opposition manager I would love to see him playing deep.
He's running the show and Kerry are scoring for fun.
I doubt Mickey is loving it so far.
There is no doubt he is playing well but so are the rest of the Kerry forwards. Just can't see it working further down the line. Why bring your biggest scoring threat further from goal. Simply stick a man marker on him and he will be ineffective.
One man-marker?
It's easier to man-mark him closer to goals.
Now he's just drifting all over the pitch.
Don't agree, far more bodies in the middle third and more congested than playing long quick ball into himself and Donaghy in full forward line. Best corner forward in the game, why move him. If I was a defender I would much rather mark himplaying 70 yards from goal than 20 yards from goal. Agree to disagree.
Life in the old dog Kerry yet.
Apart from Sean Cavanagh, Morgan Stephen O'Neill and possibly McNamee not a single other Tyrone player should be allowed out for the 2nd half. Shocking. Mark Donnelly slows the play up something shocking every time he decides to solo the ball from our 21 to their 45. f**king shite.
Colm- Shite.
McNeice/McKenna- the two worst players. McNeice is letting O'Se run riot and wasting every scoring chance coming his way. McKenna is MIA.
P Harte - no composure, losing ball and not working enough in defence. Disappointing but should maybe be moved to wing-half to utilise his passion and work rate.
M Donnelly - on the ball loads but doing nothing with it. Slow.
McCurry - MIA, not taking his scores when they come up. If they'd have taken their point chances from the goal's they'd be up by 3 already. To be fair to pete he at least got something from his point chance.
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Quote from: Jinxy on April 07, 2013, 03:28:27 PM
Gooch on the 40 works very well.
The phrase 'turn on a sixpence' was coined (arf) with him in mind.
You want him to have the ball in his hands as much as possible.
Kerry tagging on some lovely points now.
Kerry are playing brilliant football but I don't understand them playing Cooper CHF. If I was an opposition manager I would love to see him playing deep.
He's running the show and Kerry are scoring for fun.
I doubt Mickey is loving it so far.
There is no doubt he is playing well but so are the rest of the Kerry forwards. Just can't see it working further down the line. Why bring your biggest scoring threat further from goal. Simply stick a man marker on him and he will be ineffective.
One man-marker?
It's easier to man-mark him closer to goals.
Now he's just drifting all over the pitch.
Don't agree, far more bodies in the middle third and more congested than playing long quick ball into himself and Donaghy in full forward line. Best corner forward in the game, why move him. If I was a defender I would much rather mark himplaying 70 yards from goal than 20 yards from goal. Agree to disagree.
There are more bodies in the middle third but they aren't all there to mark him!
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Quote from: Jinxy on April 07, 2013, 03:28:27 PM
Gooch on the 40 works very well.
The phrase 'turn on a sixpence' was coined (arf) with him in mind.
You want him to have the ball in his hands as much as possible.
Kerry tagging on some lovely points now.
Kerry are playing brilliant football but I don't understand them playing Cooper CHF. If I was an opposition manager I would love to see him playing deep.
He's running the show and Kerry are scoring for fun.
I doubt Mickey is loving it so far.
There is no doubt he is playing well but so are the rest of the Kerry forwards. Just can't see it working further down the line. Why bring your biggest scoring threat further from goal. Simply stick a man marker on him and he will be ineffective.
Seriously? I am surprised no one tries that on him when he is closer to goal.
I'm presuming that is an attempt at sarcasm, he is getting more room against that Tyrone defence than he would in a junior club match.
He is one of the best corner forwards about but with blanket defenses he rarely gets much time on the ball. There is a lot more to Coopers game than just his ability to stick the ball over the bar. In the corner he can be double marked, it is a lot more difficult to close someone down completely round the middle.
What a score by Buckley off the outside of the boot.
Good lad Gormley a modicum of resistance.
Penrose makes a big difference for Tyrone, probably their best forward.
Another couple of Tyrone scores and we could be in for a tasty finish.
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Another couple of Tyrone scores and we could be in for a tasty finish.
Keep up the good work Tyrone.
The last ten mins of this game will say a lot about Cooper on the 40.
He simply doesn't lose possession and always seems to take the right option.
Great outlet to have.
Marty Duffy giving Tyrone some handy frees. Kerry switched off thinking the game was won, in trouble now. Getting nigly now as well.
Declan O'Sullivan has been a bit of a peripheral figure up to now surprisingly.
Bit more composure from Tyrone and they'd be there or thereabouts. Horrible auld game
Damian mc caul Far better man marker than mc Crory at 2
Nice throw from Cavanagh.
Knew he'd blow early
The level of cynical time wasting and feigning injury by Kerry in that second half was ridiculous. There was much more than 4 mins injury time!
Fair play Kerry good win. Tyrone could have won it at end. Was not impressed with Tyrone in any sector, very scrappy and non creative
Rotation of subs will be crucial for Kerry this summer.
They can't start with their first choice XV as they haven't the legs.
As I said last week, Kerry have much more classy players left than tyrone have, and they showed it today. Very easy to take the foot off the gas when u have a big lead and as johny Giles says, it's very easy for a team losing badly to play when the pressure of the game is already gone even though they nearly did steal it at the end.
That game epitomised where Kerry are at the minute. Still heavily reliant on OSes, OSullivans, Donaghy and Cooper who are all still great players. However when the intensity is turned up a notch as it will in the c'ship they will not be capable of sustaining it for prolonged periods. Either of Donegal or Dublin would have too much pace and athleticism for them. Not entirely convinced by Tyrone as contenders either, their defence seems to porous.
Kerry got raped in the second half.
Good game Sorry I could not up to that match Tyrone really dominated the second
Half I think Eamon will have to really look at the fade out. I think Tyrone will be very formidable this year
Much better second half by Tyrone but the first half was just abysmal. I am sure Mickey will have learned plenty from it and will be happy that the team fought back but - as you would expect given Tyrone are in transition - a lot of work still to be done. Lack of composure on a number of times and looking back on it those missed scores were crucial. Defence struggld. I am sure Gormley and Clarke will be starting when the championship comes around. Still need more in the forwards, Coney to get fit and McCurry/R.O'Neill/McAliskey to kick on. The Kildare semi final will be useful I think, another game to work on a few things. I still don't see this Tyrone team as AI contenders.
Brilliant first half by Kerry but scoring 0-3 in the second half and being pulled back to a point will be a little worrying. Some superb players there still but the jury is out on whether or not they can challenge for Sam again this summer. Still, they have retained Division 1 status and that is a fine achievement given where they were a few weeks ago.
Kerry must have spent a fair bit of time in Portugal working on time wasting tactics. They are excellent at it.
Actually came away not too disappointed with a defeat.. Kerry were excellent in the first half. Donaghy gave an exhibition.. Tyrone didn't look at the races at all. The introduction of Clarke and Gormley changed the game for us.. Tyrone played much better in the second half.. The wind was a strong factor in each half....Thought we could have won the game but missed too many chances in the second half, but to be fair , it would have been hard on Kerry if they had lost..
Congrats to kerry. Did what they needed to see out the game just like Tyrone did against Dublin. Will the southern media go to town in the cynical fouling near the end? Will they f**k!! Scummy reporters
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Congrats to kerry. Did what they needed to see out the game just like Tyrone did against Dublin. Will the southern media go to town in the cynical fouling near the end? Will they f**k!! Scummy reporters
The Examiner :o
Quote from: rrhf on April 07, 2013, 04:26:09 PM
Damian mc caul Far better man marker than mc Crory at 2
A quality player when not injured. Where did he go to?
Peter Harte is becoming quite the conundrum... Fantastic player but has been poor enough this year. Had another quiet game today.. It seems a place is being found for him even though he is under performing.. Never gets taken off either... I think he is playing more due to reputation than form.. Hopefully he can get into form for the Donegal game...
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Damian mc caul Far better man marker than mc Crory at 2
You only seem to comment on Tyrone game's these days when they're getting beat to make some comment which basically involves wanting Donaghmore players on the team. I am not impressed with McCrory this season at all as a man marker and am hoping Carlin gets fit soon. McCaul was a decent player on the ball but never looked good enough either as a man marker at county level and doubt he'd have made any significant difference today.
Donaghey is just immense. So impressed by him today.
One of the Kerry waterboys was on the pitch beside us today - god the ego massaging the man was doing, I was embarrassed to be listening to him. I know it is nice for player morale to hear the odd compliment but this man was cringeworthy beyond belief!
Well done Kerry, as someone said previously on here, you can complain about time wasting when it is being done by your opponents but let it go when it is your own team (v Dublin for example) so can't give out too much.
Tomas and Marc O Se are class acts, love watching them play , even if our tactics gave them the freedom of Omagh today .. Sad day when they hang up the boots
Hugely disappointing first half today. A lot of problems from previous years resurfaced. We're struggling badly at the back and this was compounded by giving Kerry all the time in the world on the ball coming forward. Tomas O'Se got the run of the park. I assume this was too allow McNeice to play a sweeper role yet every time the ball came in he wasn't there to help out. Was a crazy that someone wasn't moved onto O'Se. Our other problem was winning ball around the middle. Part of the problem here is we never seem to have enough men there to compete for the breaks.
Much more positive second half when Tyrone pushed up on Kerry and started putting pressure on them. Helped by Kerry running out of steam a little. Definitely could have got something out of the game. Both teams missed chances. I'd say Tyrone messed up 3 or 4 goal chances - McCurry twice in first half, Harte in first half, and Penrose hitting the post. He definitely made a good impact coming on and probably should start in the half forward line (and barred from shooting unless there is no other choices). Hopefully Tyrone will have learned a lot from todays game and how not to play against a team like Kerry.
Tyrone have got plenty of abuse about cynism in recent weeks after the Dublin game. Will be interesting to see the reaction to this. Kerry aided by Duffy wasted so much time in the second half. I'd say they had at least 8 or 10 injuries which Duffy stopped play for even though as far as I'm aware he's meant to play on unless its serious. I didn't see too much wrong with most of them. Even in injury time he allowed Donaghy to waste a good bit of time then denied Tyrone a chance when winning the last ball. Plenty of cynical pull downs to.
We also saw the real purpose of the black cards today. Despite the hoopla about forwards being brought down when through on goal (which will continue to happen I think), the black card is primarily aimed at the cynical foul which is not something that jumps out in the match highlights. Kerry forwards pulling down Tyrone backs on a turnover is something that will be minimised with the new rule, and that will be the real benefit. I saw gooch, Dec O'Sullivan, and Donaghy I think frustrate Tyrone counter attacks with fouls. Of course it's not just Kerry, or not just any county in particular, but I thought it was a great example watching it...
Tyrone ran out of time. Of the 4 minutes injury time, Donaghy wasted the guts of two of them yet less than a minute extra was played. Annoying to see that both Coney and Ronan O'Neill are going to have careers like Darren Anderton
Forgot to mention about the players staying on afterwards to sign jerseys and get photos - there were so many excited kids! The biggest crowd was surrounding Stevie. Great sports, the whole team of them.
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We also saw the real purpose of the black cards today. Despite the hoopla about forwards being brought down when through on goal (which will continue to happen I think), the black card is primarily aimed at the cynical foul which is not something that jumps out in the match highlights. Kerry forwards pulling down Tyrone backs on a turnover is something that will be minimised with the new rule, and that will be the real benefit. I saw gooch, Dec O'Sullivan, and Donaghy I think frustrate Tyrone counter attacks with fouls. Of course it's not just Kerry, or not just any county in particular, but I thought it was a great example watching it...
Maybe Duffy showed today why the black card won't work. There was plenty of people pulled down today and Duffy didn't even feel the need to book the player. If he didn't feel under the current rules that the fouls were bookings its hard to believe he'd send players of for it next year. Also as I said time and time again in the second half Kerry players lay down wasting time. Under the existing room Duffy has the power to play on and instead he ignored this and let them away with it. He also had the power to add even more additional time and didn't. Rules can only do so much.
Hi guys,
Tactical analysis of Kerry's win over Tyrone here http://action81.com/blog/?p=7057
Emmet
So we learnt today Kerry can still play, but only for 35 minutes.
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Forgot to mention about the players staying on afterwards to sign jerseys and get photos - there were so many excited kids! The biggest crowd was surrounding Stevie. Great sports, the whole team of them.
Not like Conor Counihan who I saw pushing a kid with a marker out of the way after the game today.
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Forgot to mention about the players staying on afterwards to sign jerseys and get photos - there were so many excited kids! The biggest crowd was surrounding Stevie. Great sports, the whole team of them.
Not like Conor Counihan who I saw pushing a kid with a marker out of the way after the game today.
Ignorant bastard!
That Cork team are a hard bunch to love.
Even for Cork people!
Great result today from the point of view of staying in div 1. Wasnt impressed at all in the second half though. Should have took the game to Tyrone like in the first half. I guess alot of it would be down to fatigue as Kerry put in an intense first 35 mins. Tomas O Se was immense today with his driving runs thru the centre. Thought Gooch did well orchestrating things from the forty and picked out Donaghy well with some great passes.
Game wouldnt have meant much to Tyrone as they had already qualified for the semis but I guess they were told at half time to give it a lash and put a bit of respectability on the score board.
Took a look at the new training facility on the way down the road - very impressive facility but jaysus tis sitting on a cowld spot on the side of the mountain ( when u see the wind mills - u know you are high up!!)
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Damian mc caul Far better man marker than mc Crory at 2
You only seem to comment on Tyrone game's these days when they're getting beat to make some comment which basically involves wanting Donaghmore players on the team. I am not impressed with McCrory this season at all as a man marker and am hoping Carlin gets fit soon. McCaul was a decent player on the ball but never looked good enough either as a man marker at county level and doubt he'd have made any significant difference today.
Not at all I've been watching big Collys progress quite closely rhf. Grow up
That was a weird first half. The Tyrone half forwards and midfield offered no protection whatsoever to the defence. It was an odd approach for a side under Mickey. McNeice, Harte and Donnelly seemed to allow their men to attack at will, leaving the Cavanagh's chasing shadows. With so many Kerry men pouring forward Gooch had buckets of space to find whoever he wanted. I'm not convinced by the full back line but they were under serious pressure because of the unchallenged balls coming in. McNeice was lost and Tomas couldn't believe the room he had. It was as if he was up against a minor side. Star tortured Justin.
Gormley, Penrose and Clarke managed to offer what we lacked - physicality and the running game. Kerry completely folded apart from about the 60-70 when both sides looked punch-drunk.
The wind seemed to be a massive factor too.
The wind was actually stronger in the second half!
That first half was unbelievably dire from a Tyrone perspective. Sean Cavanagh was screaming over at the bench when Tomas O Se palmed the ball in, somebody do something. O'Se had just reeked pure havoc for 35 minutes scoring 1-2 i think. The system of McNiece marking space was horribly exposed and Kerry made hay. The 2 wing backs had a really bad day and Pete Harte fumbled everything that came his way. Full back line couldn't deal with the quality of the ball coming in. So many questions need answering after that. Better in the second half yes, but that first 35 is all I can think about...disgraceful
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Damian mc caul Far better man marker than mc Crory at 2
You only seem to comment on Tyrone game's these days when they're getting beat to make some comment which basically involves wanting Donaghmore players on the team. I am not impressed with McCrory this season at all as a man marker and am hoping Carlin gets fit soon. McCaul was a decent player on the ball but never looked good enough either as a man marker at county level and doubt he'd have made any significant difference today.
Not at all I've been watching big Collys progress quite closely rhf. Grow up
At the end of the day Tyrone have had a good league campaign and we'd have all been happy with 5 wins at the start of the year. The defence struggled badly in the first half but I don't feel we have many better options not on the panel. I just think balance is needed when analysing the team and not waiting on a defeat to complain that certain players aren't on the panel.
I'm hoping that Tyrone will learn a lot from both halfs today and how they have to apply themselves to compete against the very top teams. Clarke certainly made a big difference today. He's a hard player to work out - seems to go from one extreme to another. Think his best position could be right half back at county level.
Will be good to get another game or 2 in the league. Kildare will no doubt improve from the game in Newbridge. Last year they run over us in a division 2 league final - wonder will we show significant improvement from then next Sunday.
Was there a tackle in the game. Ok a pulling hauling match by Kerry at the end. But it was slack stuff at times. I feel this league has been very low standard I can only see a maxim of 2 of the top 4 still kicking ball in August.
The first half was surreal, the space afforded to the Kerry half forward line was criminal. At times our players seemed to stand around watching the green and gold jersey flood forward, full back line didn't stand a chance.
Encouraging to see the turnaround second half, really pushed up and pressurised the Kerry man on the ball. Still very wasteful though, something Mickey will want put right next weekend. As mentioned, kudos to Gormley, Clarke and Penrose for their impact in second half.
Lastly, any word on Ronan O'Neill? Appeared to be holding the hamstring coming off?
It must be humiliating for Tyrone to see Kerry ease off on them like that. The ultimate insult.
I would love to know the amount of times Kerry committed cynical fouls in the centre field area, slowing down Tyrones attack. They really had it down to a tee today. There was at least 7 black card type fouls committed Kerry.
Although there was only 1 point in it, Kerry were the better side by a long way and really did expose Tyrone big time. How Mickey looked at Tomas o se cutting through the middle of the field time and time again without doing something about it was concerning. It wasn't mc niece's fault, he was just playing the way he was told to. I think our tactics are all wrong. We really are missing a good man marker. McRory isn't up to it, I don't think he has won a ball in front of his man this year or even manage to put in a tackle when his man gets it. Mark Donnelly and Colm Cavanagh hold on to the ball far too long, it must be very frustrating playing in that full forward line. With O'Neill and Mccurry we have two good accurate forwards but we just don't get the ball to them enough. Peter Harte has been very disappointing, I think he might just be a half back and that's it but hasnt even been tried there this year. His ball handling today was awful.
As some people have said, 5 wins is a great return for Div 1 this year. I agree 100%. However, if another manager had sent out Tyrone , tactically the way they went out today, they would be slaughtered ! cork came up an beat the dung out of us, a week after we had beaten the A I champions and a fortnight after we had beaten Mayo. Mickey made 5 changes to that team , we got hammered and there wasn't a f**king word about it! Don't get me wrong, I think we are moving in the right direction.,just feel that MH gets a hall pass too often. Some will say he has earned it. That only lasts so long.
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As some people have said, 5 wins is a great return for Div 1 this year. I agree 100%. However, if another manager had sent out Tyrone , tactically the way they went out today, they would be slaughtered ! cork came up an beat the dung out of us, a week after we had beaten the A I champions and a fortnight after we had beaten Mayo. Mickey made 5 changes to that team , we got hammered and there wasn't a f**king word about it! Don't get me wrong, I think we are moving in the right direction.,just feel that MH gets a hall pass too often. Some will say he has earned it. That only lasts so long.
I agree he had a bad day at the office yesterday especially with the McNiece/O'Shea situation but at the end of the day different players and systems must be tried in the league or we will learn nothing. If we get defeated in the odd game so what? It is the league and after all we still qualified for the semis.
Quote from: Syferus on April 07, 2013, 07:50:48 PM
So we learnt today Kerry can still play, but only for 35 minutes.
After the pace they played in the first half it was inevitable there's be a slow down in the 2nd half especially after a week's hard slog in Portugal.
Thought SoN took his goal very well. Reminded me of Canavan's goal in the AIF 2005, sowed that you don't have to bust the net to beat the keeper. Some of the younger lads could learn from that.
Was watching the match yesterday on TG4 and couldn't help but compare how Kerry started that game in explosive mode to how we used to play teams back in 2003. We'd knock the stuffing out of them in the first 15 mins and when a team is 5-7 points down that fast the psychology battle is won very early.
It was very disappointing yesterday to see our half forwards, MF & half backs being torn to shreds at pace and not being able to even compete. Ye could read Kerry's body language and see the smiles as their plan was coming together nicely for them. With runners coming from everywhere and Donaghy winning everything hit into him we looked like we were in for an awful hiding.
We'd had a strange league campaign as the first 3 or 4 games we looked quite compact and well organised at the back. Conceding few scores and scoring a reasonable amount.
Having only gone to one match myself I am finding it hard to decide who has played well and who hasn't for the year so far. I don't want to be too critical after a defeat but it's hard to choose any of our defenders and say they've had a good showing over the 7 games.
Clarke has been in and out of the team but would it be fair to say he's probably been one of our better defenders. McCarron has been OK here and there as has Gormley of course, even if he's lost a good bit of pace it would appear and he's not really got a full 70 mins in him any more or at least not yet.
All in all I think we'll be back to packing the defence with 2 half forwards again and as Kerry showed us yesterday how to punish that tactic.
Without people taking personal offence to their own club, I think McCrory and Petey are still struggling to get to the level that we think they are capable of. We know McCrory has pace and reads the game well, but you'd imagine with the amount of coaching done now that Mickey would be telling him that he needs to be less predictable and not always be letting his man get out in front and win the ball. He has the pace to get out in front and take the odd wee risk here and there.
Petey is indeed a dilemma and surely even Mickey must be wondering how can he get the best out of him. Maybe playing him wing forward or wing back would suit him better and even bring Mugsy back onto the 40 as we know he has good vision and can hit good ball into our FF line.
How do people thing the 4 new faces of McKenna, McNamee, McNeice and Matty Donnelly have settled into the team? To me I think our half forward & half back lines are very important as they need to be winning a lot of breaking ball and turnovers.
I too hope Carlin gets back soon as would like to see him back in that defence. I really don't know what our best 6 defenders are any more and whilst we have had a good league I don't think we've enough quality any more to compete with the so called bigger guns.
I hope I'm wrong
I think the strategy yesterday worked like a dream.
We loiter about the middle of the park not doing very much at all in the first half and let the Kingdom build up a substantial lead.
Shortly after the resumption, with Kerry almost home-and-dry, we start to play some football, to the extent that we were as overwhelming for Kerry as they had been for us first half. We time it to perfection closing to the minimum 1 point gap by full time (having kicked a few wides too), thereby ensuring that Donegal drop, setting them up nicely for the Ulster 1st round next month.
:)
Interesting Fear and all without Ricey as he was busy lining out in goals for Fermanagh yesterday.
(http://gaa.ie/content/images/news/fermanagh/SnowChris_Save2013.jpg)
Did any of ye go for tae & sandwiches yesterday? Was there many at it?
What was the atmosphere like at the match yesterday? Was there many Kerry fans there?
No tae and sandwiches Fuzz, but good atmosphere (rousing at times in the 2nd half, if not quite 'white heat'), and there was a good smattering of Kerry folk there (all smiling widely at the final whistle).
Good turn out for the tea at Garvaghey by all accounts (though I wasn't there personally) - not just Kerry fans but people from other counties too.
And a great page in the programme on an interview with a county volunteer ;)
Quote from: Rois on April 08, 2013, 04:52:29 PM
And a great page in the programme on an interview with a county volunteer ;)
Indeed, and I hope you enjoyed your jar in Dixie's a week ago on Saturday last! ;)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/kerry-hold-on-to-complete-great-escape-29180129.html
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/kerry-hold-off-tyrone-to-survive-in-top-flight-1.1351770?page=2
Not a mention of cynism. Strange the way they report on different teams.
Ur right. Out ta fcuk with him. Sure what does he know
Quote from: Redhand Santa on April 08, 2013, 08:23:12 PM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/kerry-hold-on-to-complete-great-escape-29180129.html
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/kerry-hold-off-tyrone-to-survive-in-top-flight-1.1351770?page=2
Not a mention of cynism. Strange the way they report on different teams.
They weren't cynical, they were 'well insulated against a stressful finish'.
If you looked back at some of the threads after the Derry defeat in the league in 08 or after the Down championship defeat that year you'd see plenty of people with plenty of negative comments and serious criticism of Harte. As you say it takes time to build a team and during a match that meant nothing on Sunday it was a great time to see the weaknesses.
I went through them there - ye are talking through yer hoopla.
Must have imagined the criticism back in 08. Out of interest what would your 1st choice 15 be RRHF if everyone was available including non panel members?
Why not you have a go:
N Morgan, D Mc Caul, Joe Mc Mahon, D Carlin; Mackers, Justin Mc Mahon, Ronan Mc Nabb, Sean Cavanagh & Kelvin Hughes, Mark Donnelly, Penrose, P Harte, Steven O Neill, Colm Cavanagh, Conor Mc Aliskey.
SUBS: Coney, (14) Mc Kenna (midfield, 11 and ff) (a Cassidy midfield and ff) etc I think Tyrone need to hurt teams from close in this year and would go for a big man in f/f with the likes of O Neill and Mc Aliskey taking it off them. I have went for 2 speedy wing backs in my opinion the current best 2 in Tyrone. I have 2 of the consistent three best club midfielders in Tyrone in there rewarded for their excellence, Hughes told specifically to add a physical element to the sectorr and let Cavanagh play the football. My half forward line which will have good days and bad days takes Peties out of the middle and a freeer position on the wing. I see this line as being a defensive hardworking group who are Tyrone hardest working line on the field. They take breaks, mark kick outs and track back to free up the half backs to get on up. I must admit I like it. A hardworking direct physical team. Lets face we dont have a great supply of forawrds at the moment I dont think either Ronal O neill or Mc Curry are starters at the moment but have promises. The best full back in Tyrone is Joe Mc Mahon and I start off by sealing the gaps. With Mc caul equally adapt beside him or switching, , I believe Sean Cavanagh needs the physicality of Hughes surely but over the last 2 years playing his best football when not injured.,then again maybe too old.
Quote from: rrhf on April 09, 2013, 11:50:01 PM
Why not you have a go:
N Morgan, D Mc Caul, Joe Mc Mahon, D Carlin; Mackers, Justin Mc Mahon, Ronan Mc Nabb, Sean Cavanagh & Kelvin Hughes, Mark Donnelly, Penrose, P Harte, Steven O Neill, Colm Cavanagh, Conor Mc Aliskey.
.... that team wud only line out the once.
Quote from: rrhf on April 09, 2013, 11:50:01 PM
Why not you have a go:
N Morgan, D Mc Caul, Joe Mc Mahon, D Carlin; Mackers, Justin Mc Mahon, Ronan Mc Nabb, Sean Cavanagh & Kelvin Hughes, Mark Donnelly, Penrose, P Harte, Steven O Neill, Colm Cavanagh, Conor Mc Aliskey.
SUBS: Coney, (14) Mc Kenna (midfield, 11 and ff) (a Cassidy midfield and ff) etc I think Tyrone need to hurt teams from close in this year and would go for a big man in f/f with the likes of O Neill and Mc Aliskey taking it off them. I have went for 2 speedy wing backs in my opinion the current best 2 in Tyrone. I have 2 of the consistent three best club midfielders in Tyrone in there rewarded for their excellence, Hughes told specifically to add a physical element to the sectorr and let Cavanagh play the football. My half forward line which will have good days and bad days takes Peties out of the middle and a freeer position on the wing. I see this line as being a defensive hardworking group who are Tyrone hardest working line on the field. They take breaks, mark kick outs and track back to free up the half backs to get on up. I must admit I like it. A hardworking direct physical team. Lets face we dont have a great supply of forawrds at the moment I dont think either Ronal O neill or Mc Curry are starters at the moment but have promises. The best full back in Tyrone is Joe Mc Mahon and I start off by sealing the gaps. With Mc caul equally adapt beside him or switching, , I believe Sean Cavanagh needs the physicality of Hughes surely but over the last 2 years playing his best football when not injured.,then again maybe too old.
Throw a few Hetheringtons in there and you might be onto something
Kingdom chairman thanks Tyrone as visitors get treated 'royally'
Wednesday, April 10, 2013
Kerry GAA chiefs have heaped praise on their Tyrone counterparts following Sunday's Allianz League clash at Healy Park, Omagh.
By Murt Murphy
The build-up to the game had been dominated by stories of bad blood and growing ill-feeling between the counties but Kingdom officials and supporters left the north with nothing but praise for their hosts.
Kerry chairman Patrick O'Sullivan told delegates at the April County Committee said that the visitors were treated 'royally' by his Tyrone counterpart Ciarán McLaughlin and his committee.
After congratulating Eamonn Fitzmaurice and the Kerry team on winning on Sunday and maintaining their top flight status, Mr O'Sullivan said: "I want to thank Tyrone chairman Ciarán McLaughlin and the Tyrone County Board for the warmth of their welcome on Saturday and Sunday.
"We were offered every facility that was available, both before, during and after the game.
"Ciarán McLaughlin was on hand to ensure we were looked after before the game.
"We were treated royally at half-time and even after losing a tight game, Tyrone and Mikey Harte were magnanimous in defeat.
"As Kerry chairman I feel it incumbent on me to publicly acknowledge the wonderful reception Kerry were afforded from Ciarán McLaughlin and all the Tyrone officials.
"It flies in the face of some of the sensational headline grabbing stuff that was printed in the media in the week leading up to the game."
Yerrah if they'd have lost that headline would read 'Tyrone animals fail to provide egg and onion sandwiches at reception. Kerry chairman stable in hospital following collapse.' ;)
"Royally"
Oh aye, a well disguised dig at our nationality!! Mike Sheehy Would have been proud!!
;)
Quote from: rrhf on April 09, 2013, 11:50:01 PM
Why not you have a go:
N Morgan, D Mc Caul, Joe Mc Mahon, D Carlin; Mackers, Justin Mc Mahon, Ronan Mc Nabb, Sean Cavanagh & Kelvin Hughes, Mark Donnelly, Penrose, P Harte, Steven O Neill, Colm Cavanagh, Conor Mc Aliskey.
SUBS: Coney, (14) Mc Kenna (midfield, 11 and ff) (a Cassidy midfield and ff) etc I think Tyrone need to hurt teams from close in this year and would go for a big man in f/f with the likes of O Neill and Mc Aliskey taking it off them. I have went for 2 speedy wing backs in my opinion the current best 2 in Tyrone. I have 2 of the consistent three best club midfielders in Tyrone in there rewarded for their excellence, Hughes told specifically to add a physical element to the sectorr and let Cavanagh play the football. My half forward line which will have good days and bad days takes Peties out of the middle and a freeer position on the wing. I see this line as being a defensive hardworking group who are Tyrone hardest working line on the field. They take breaks, mark kick outs and track back to free up the half backs to get on up. I must admit I like it. A hardworking direct physical team. Lets face we dont have a great supply of forawrds at the moment I dont think either Ronal O neill or Mc Curry are starters at the moment but have promises. The best full back in Tyrone is Joe Mc Mahon and I start off by sealing the gaps. With Mc caul equally adapt beside him or switching, , I believe Sean Cavanagh needs the physicality of Hughes surely but over the last 2 years playing his best football when not injured.,then again maybe too old.
No Adrian Cush??
Quote from: rrhf on April 09, 2013, 11:50:01 PM
Why not you have a go:
N Morgan, D Mc Caul, Joe Mc Mahon, D Carlin; Mackers, Justin Mc Mahon, Ronan Mc Nabb, Sean Cavanagh & Kelvin Hughes, Mark Donnelly, Penrose, P Harte, Steven O Neill, Colm Cavanagh, Conor Mc Aliskey.
SUBS: Coney, (14) Mc Kenna (midfield, 11 and ff) (a Cassidy midfield and ff) etc I think Tyrone need to hurt teams from close in this year and would go for a big man in f/f with the likes of O Neill and Mc Aliskey taking it off them. I have went for 2 speedy wing backs in my opinion the current best 2 in Tyrone. I have 2 of the consistent three best club midfielders in Tyrone in there rewarded for their excellence, Hughes told specifically to add a physical element to the sectorr and let Cavanagh play the football. My half forward line which will have good days and bad days takes Peties out of the middle and a freeer position on the wing. I see this line as being a defensive hardworking group who are Tyrone hardest working line on the field. They take breaks, mark kick outs and track back to free up the half backs to get on up. I must admit I like it. A hardworking direct physical team. Lets face we dont have a great supply of forawrds at the moment I dont think either Ronal O neill or Mc Curry are starters at the moment but have promises. The best full back in Tyrone is Joe Mc Mahon and I start off by sealing the gaps. With Mc caul equally adapt beside him or switching, , I believe Sean Cavanagh needs the physicality of Hughes surely but over the last 2 years playing his best football when not injured.,then again maybe too old.
Do you really think that team is significantly better than the one likely to be named by Harte against Donegal? In my opinion it is no better. The changes you've made involve bringing in 2 Donaghmore men, both of whom have never proved themselves at county level. Also to play McNabb and Carlin who have both been injured all league so Harte couldn't play them if he wanted to. I really don't think Colm Cavanagh would be a good option at full forward either. His only chance of starting is in midfield or half forward. I'm concerned about the lack of options around midfield but wouldn't be convinced that Kelvin Hughes at this stage is going to solve that.
The thing is that most people would pick a different starting 15. Like you've named a team above that no one else here probably would and as I said I don't think its stronger than what Harte will pick. In my opinion Harte is in the best position to pick the team and I'd be happy he'll do as good a job as any man in Tyrone. That doesn't mean we'll win the All Ireland but we'll be hard to beat.
Yes we are agreed if you actually asked I want Harte over seniors u 21s and with a strong say in minors but you asked me to pick a hypothetical team with players in And out
Good to see Ciaran McLaughlin treating Kerry royally,in complete contrast to his personal vendetta against Ardboe GFC >:(