Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

Started by Gabriel_Hurl, November 09, 2006, 10:54:03 PM

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rrhf

#28470
You have to have empathy with the under 21 management here and there are 2 bigger pictures here.  In no particular order.
Tyrone football needs a good news story and these guys are delivering it and the prospect of a return to success.  The management trio have Tyrone football in their hearts and have to fight the corner for their team.
The club's need games today and every week now with or without their under 21s etc. Historically putting off games is not an option and is killing Tyrone football, eroding support for the county and disenfranchised the vast majority of Gaa players and people in Tyrone.
Authoritarian implementation of county manager strategy over the needs of the club players has historically left a bad taste in the mouth and led to less support for the great work done at County level.  These three men managing the under 21st should not be penalised for the mistakes of management at senior and minor level in the past. 
Most importantly the club season needs to be sacrosanct and fixtures for the gaels of Tyrone need to be protected.
A set period before club championship needs to be agreed where full access to players at training and in league games is available. The current imposition of the first round of the championship is the stumbling block and people need to listen and be flexible.  Tyrone senior season will be over by July this year unfortunately. Let's go for mid august for the club championship season.  If something miraculous happens with our senior team then we be deal with the problems then.

Red Hand Man

It's very simple.

The under 21 management asked for the matches to be postponed.

The CCC refused.

The under 21 management wrote to clubs asking for their players to be excluded from the games.

A lot of clubs showed an unwillingness to cooperate.

The under 21 management told their players at training last night that if they played they would be immediately dropped from the panel.  They also arranged training for this evening to clash with the games.

But as long as the championship goes ahead at the end of May, this is all perfectly acceptable.

sam03/05

I go to as many club games as anyone else. This time next year no one will care a jot what date the league started. The All Ireland Semi Final won't be forgotten as quickly. If we lose it because a couple of key players got injured it will be one that got away

Quote from: rrhf on April 11, 2015, 08:43:59 AM
Quote from: GlenMan on April 10, 2015, 11:12:20 PM
Quote from: Red Hand Man on April 10, 2015, 11:06:46 PM
Heard the latest everyone?  Hate to say I told you so but........

???  ??? What's happened now?
yes please elaborate.

WT4E

some of them could be knocked down by a bus too - I say cancel all the buses until the games played

This is sport lads let everyone play and use ur elite squad to fill in for any injuries (hopefully not necessary)

Norf Tyrone

#28474
Quote from: Red Hand Man on April 11, 2015, 09:15:19 AM
It's very simple.

The under 21 management asked for the matches to be postponed.

The CCC refused.

The under 21 management wrote to clubs asking for their players to be excluded from the games.

A lot of clubs showed an unwillingness to cooperate.

The under 21 management told their players at training last night that if they played they would be immediately dropped from the panel.  They also arranged training for this evening to clash with the games.

But as long as the championship goes ahead at the end of May, this is all perfectly acceptable.

The threatening to drop players happened 2 years ago too at minor.

No one was dropped.

Bully boy tactics.
Owen Roe O'Neills GAC, Leckpatrick, Tyrone

Norf Tyrone

Quote from: Red Hand Man on April 11, 2015, 09:15:19 AM
It's very simple.

The under 21 management asked for the matches to be postponed.

The CCC refused.

The under 21 management wrote to clubs asking for their players to be excluded from the games.

A lot of clubs showed an unwillingness to cooperate.

The under 21 management told their players at training last night that if they played they would be immediately dropped from the panel.  They also arranged training for this evening to clash with the games.

But as long as the championship goes ahead at the end of May, this is all perfectly acceptable.

Why didn't the U21s factor this in 6 weeks back instead of 2 days before the game.
Owen Roe O'Neills GAC, Leckpatrick, Tyrone

The Trap

Speaking to a few guys at work and it seems that we only think we are bad in Tyrone........Armagh play their first round of league games on Sunday and McGeeney is taking the county team of on a training weekend so none of them can play........Armagh don't play their next game for 8 weeks!!!!!!!!!! Down have called off their league games this weekend and next as the county team have reached the division 2 league final on 26th April.........what did Duffy say when he became president.......something about highlighting the plight of club players.....well that's 3 counties in his own province that don't give a fcuk!
Some day when their is a full round of league fixtures the ordinary club players shouldn't turn up and say it didn't suit them that day!!!!!!!

redzone

Quote from: rrhf on April 11, 2015, 08:57:47 AM
You have to have empathy with the under 21 management here and there are 2 bigger pictures here.  In no particular order.
Tyrone football needs a good news story and these guys are delivering it and the prospect of a return to success.  The management trio have Tyrone football in their hearts and have to fight the corner for their team.
The club's need games today and every week now with or without their under 21s etc. Historically putting off games is not an option and is killing Tyrone football, eroding support for the county and disenfranchised the vast majority of Gaa players and people in Tyrone.
Authoritarian implementation of county manager strategy over the needs of the club players has historically left a bad taste in the mouth and led to less support for the great work done at County level.  These three men managing the under 21st should not be penalised for the mistakes of management at senior and minor level in the past. 
Most importantly the club season needs to be sacrosanct and fixtures for the gaels of Tyrone need to be protected.
A set period before club championship needs to be agreed where full access to players at training and in league games is available. The current imposition of the first round of the championship is the stumbling block and people need to listen and be flexible.  Tyrone senior season will be over by July this year unfortunately. Let's go for mid august for the club championship season.  If something miraculous happens with our senior team then we be deal with the problems then.


correct.the main problem is the club championship being played in may,which is only to suit 1 player cathal McCarron. until croke park handles the club fixtures these problems will always happen.

a simple solution. sigerson finshed up before xmas with no county players playin it.
national league to start a week r 2 earlier with no break at all and do away with semis.this would leave a extra 4/5/6weeks?
all club league to start week after national league.all club league games fro every county played on same day.club championshiop commence after your county is knocked out, and run what ever way they are wanted to by county boards.
obv the senior county all Ireland should be a month earlier or even 6 weeks.
to many competions overlap in the gaa

Club boi



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correct.the main problem is the club championship being played in may,which is only to suit 1 player cathal McCarron. until croke park handles the club fixtures these problems will always happen.

a simple solution. sigerson finshed up before xmas with no county players playin it.
national league to start a week r 2 earlier with no break at all and do away with semis.this would leave a extra 4/5/6weeks?
all club league to start week after national league.all club league games fro every county played on same day.club championshiop commence after your county is knocked out, and run what ever way they are wanted to by county boards.
obv the senior county all Ireland should be a month earlier or even 6 weeks.
to many competions overlap in the gaa
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Red zone for president
Fixture planning like above would be ideal to be fair. Would give Club football back the Clubs
Too many Competions Overlap

Under Lights


BennyHarp

Quote from: Under Lights on April 11, 2015, 10:23:48 PM
Any results in?

Good start for the Clarkes. Beat Donaghmore by 1 point.
That was never a square ball!!

Tyrone Gaa

Quote from: BennyHarp on April 11, 2015, 10:25:52 PM
Quote from: Under Lights on April 11, 2015, 10:23:48 PM
Any results in?

Good start for the Clarkes. Beat Donaghmore by 1 point.

Correction: The Dungannon umpire won Dungannon their 1st game back in senior football. Called a blinder, proved a vital score (no score)
Living the dream!!!

GlenMan

Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on April 12, 2015, 12:21:15 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on April 11, 2015, 10:25:52 PM
Quote from: Under Lights on April 11, 2015, 10:23:48 PM
Any results in?

Good start for the Clarkes. Beat Donaghmore by 1 point.

Correction: The Dungannon umpire won Dungannon their 1st game back in senior football. Called a blinder, proved a vital score (no score)

No HawkEye in Donaghmore??

Aaron Boone

Tried to get results of Tyrone's Twitter a/c there, but all resources were at Donegal hurling play-off (a draw). Hopefully in the morning, the football scores will have filtered through.

GlenMan

Quote from: Aaron Boone on April 12, 2015, 12:40:14 AM
Tried to get results of Tyrone's Twitter a/c there, but all resources were at Donegal hurling play-off (a draw). Hopefully in the morning, the football scores will have filtered through.

http://tyronegaa.ie/fixtures-results/club/

All on the website. They appear on there almost immediately- referee texts into a computer system.