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Have to say. We all love the under dog! When Meath beat Louth in the 2010 Leinster final we all felt for them. If the shoe was on the other foot. We'd have said wasn't it a good one Louth winning that way. Same rules would have applied if Tipperary had done a Tyrone to Tyrone. We'd all say they did the right thing to close out the game. But it's different when the so called traditional county achieves their goals by adverse means.

In fairness Bunker you're warping the issue most have. Lots of teams close out games by trying to shut up shop but lots of teams don't knee players in head, elbow them in the face or throw them at goal-posts. Tipp were guilty of a stamp in the final but Tyrone's rap sheet this year extends far beyond that and anyone who's trying to isolate the final without the context of the whole campaign is missing the bigger picture. I think this topic is more about player safety than it is about tactics.

Player safety?

Francie Grehan, Seamus O'Neill?

[The "Fergal Logan half time delay" by Syfreus was the best of the lot and he is still backin himself about it Hilarious stuff!]

Please name 3 incidents that Tyrone did on Saturday evening that other teams do not.  And be specific.  If you can then you can be taken seriously.

No one can Rodman.  In fact they couldn't name one that their own county or club hasn't done.   In most cases that's because most haven't played even at club senior level, but in all cases its sour grapes.  Declan Browne has called them for what they are.

hold on now a second, there hasnt been a real mention of the game since tuesday night from a tipp person, its a derry person i think who rodman is talking with

I have to stick up the Tipp posters on here, I mightnt agree with them on some things but they havent made shit up unlike Roscommon and Dublin posters who just pluck things outta the air. The "Fergal Logan half time delay" by Syfreus was the best of the lot and he is still backin himself about it Hilarious stuff! 

It looks like the inbreds have started now too but thats only to be expected

It says something about how badly you want to avoid genuine talk of Tyrone's play - which is widespread in the GAA community now after the AI final blew the lid off the topic - when that's what you decide talk about.

If you want to stick your head in the sand and think it isn't an issue at all this probably isn't the best place to be.

Maybe you'll finally address the issues of your former players like O'Neill, Grehan, Dolan and Curran and the acts of thuggery, cynicism, sledging and gamesmanship they engaged in.  We know you are loathe to do that though as they were some of the worst perpetrators of underhand tactics at tge time or maybe you're too young to remember. A bit rich of you either way to call other teams out on it but continue to ignore your own county's shame. Maybe some of the Galway lads could fill us in on what Grehan did to Joyce all those years back.

You must never have seen Frankie Dolan or Francie Grehan play Syferus.

Sligoman you are right, all them wrongs you have seen being done to poor sligo and then you could not see one unsavoury incident in the Ros[tyrone game, well good man and fair play to ya, you call things as you see them, no bias or anything like that there, you should start writing match reports, I for one would love to read them.

No bias, I'm the one calling out some truths on the matter.

How about you deal with the issues I put forward because it seem you don't want your own county to adhere to the high standards of sportmanship you expect of opposition teams. I'm only bringing this issue forward as a point of balance. You are getting your knickers in a twist about the way you were beaten but you don't seem to have any comment on the gamesmanship and thuggery Roscommon players and teams have carried out in the recent past.

You're no strangers to dishing the dirt out so it's a bit hard to take when ye get indignant about being on the purported receiving end of it.

I havent forgot ya sligoman, what about the 1943 Connacht semi-final played in boyle when ye were denied a 14 yard free to win the game and Ros won the replay and went on to win the all-ire,
this thread is not about personal grudges or vendettas but about the direction out game of football is heading, every county has had its hard men but the ref usually dealt with them, (well some times), Barnes Murphy was no angel and I could name a lot more  of hard sligomen over the years but now it is being coached into young lads that this is the way to play but I have to say fair play to you you did not miss a chance to vent against your connacht neighbours and of course you had to praise the nordies to justify your anger, if we get over London you will have one long angry post to write after what we do to ye and I guarantee their will not be one cynical tackle from the Rossies.

I never said Sligo were angels. My point is that Roscommon crying about other team's ethics is a bit rich when it comes to some of the characters ye had playing for ye not so long ago.

Did you have any problem with the direction the likes of Seamie O'Neill, Francie Grehan, Frankie Dolan or Shane Curran brought the game in? You are the lads who are crying foul but it's not so long ago since you had a team stocked of thugs and loudmouths who were no strangers to lowering the blade when you needed to. It's

Sligo have played Derry, Down, Donegal, Armagh and Tyrone in the past 15 years of Championship football and have met all Ulster sides in the league. I can't think of any time there were really unsavoury incidents. We've had players like O'Hara who got involved in a lot of incidents and it's perfectly understandable how he would not be looked upon favourably in other counties but at least he did play ball as well for the most part. Seamie O'Neill would generally just run around the pitch after him trying to take his head off when Sligo played Roscommon.

I was at the game in Markievicz between Tyrone and yourselves and certainly didn't see anything untoward from Tyrone, certainly nothing out of the norm skirmishes you'd see in any Championship match. It's very odd that Roscommon have turned into shrinking violet Mary Poppins outfit in recent years, when did this Road to Damascus moment overtake your usual boorish demeanor?

I've been a long time lurker on these boards but I finally felt it worthwhile to join up reading some of the rubbish posted here. Syferus takes the biscuit. I wonder is the sense of irony lost on him talking about diving, cheating, cynicism, defensive football and dirt.

Does he defend the way Roscommon players dived and conned the referee in the 2010 Connacht final, where anytime they felt the slightest touch they flung themselves to the ground. Where they consistently fouled Harrison and Johnny Davey any time they broke out with the ball from the back? Sligo lost that game themselves that way but the gaul of you to claim moral high ground of the so called dark arts of the game.

Roscommon is the same county who had thugs like Grehan and Seamie O'Neill touring the country with absolute dirt on show. I wonder how many players O'Neill buried with punches in his career, he was as big a thug as you'd find in the game. And Grehan now far behind him. Talking about sledging, step forward Curran and Frankie Dolan. Dolan would spend his whole game talking and verbally harrassing the referee and his opponent, hardly the sign of someone playing the game in the right spirit is it? Curran was as unsporting a player you could have and would use every single trick in the book too. Do you have issues with the gamesmanship in the replay with Sligo in 2004 or does you mock outrage only extend to teams who beat ye?

Finally, I seem to remember Roscommon playing every single player they had behind the ball last year in the qualifier with Armagh so concentrate on getting your own house in order before telling us how other teams are ruining the game.

For what it's worth I attended the game between Roscommon and Tyrone and I didn't see any signs of cynicism beyond the norm with Tyrone that day. They were just a better team who were hungrier. The incident you highlighted with Daly and the Tyrone lad seemed to have been instigated by Daly who was giving it as good as he was getting it at the least.

I have to agree with the Tyrone lads here, if Kerry, Dublin or Mayo adopt these tactics they are exonerated as being cute or intelligent. If an Ulster side do it they are thugs and cynical who are ruining the game.

Mayo did it in the 2012 Connacht final with Sligo when Johnny Davey came on and was cynically dragged to the ground on 3 or 4 times in the last few minutes. Barry Moran got a second yellow card for clotheslining him and it was cynical in the extreme. I don't have an issue with Mayo doing it, if Sligo were the team who were two points up in injury time I'd expect us to be doing the same. The issue falls on the referees and how they punish these incidents.

But to hear Syferus, a Roscommon man, riding his high horse about one county being responsible for all the ills of the games when his own county are far from angels is sickening.

I watched the game yesterday, it was good game played in tough conditions with both teams giving it all and doing what it took to win. I thought if anything Tipperary were slightly the more cynical and the midfielder was very lucky not to get the line for what he did to the Tyrone no9 who continued to come in for special treatment all game long. Felt sorry for Tipp at the time as they were desperately unlucky to fall short and the way the game ended with them being denied a chance of an equaliser must have been sickening but I quickly lost that sympathy when hearing the stories of the comments they made after the game and denying the Tyrone manager from offering his commiserations after the game. I certainly can't understand the negativity towards Tyrone on the basis of yesterday and would agree that there seems to be an agenda against Northern teams.

I have seen Sligo play against plenty of Northern sides in my time following GAA and I can safely say I found them a lot less cynical and dirty than some of our closer neighbours.