Irish mercenaries, unionist coat trailers and the Bard of Dunclug

[lynchbhoy]

did these folks above hack into the bard of dunclugs account to post all those 'sectarian posts' then ?

[Evil Genius]

May I ask a question of the posters that support the parade. Do you agree with the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? Its a simple question - answers please.

I agree with the UN-authorised war in Afghanistan, I disagree with the non-UN authorised war in Baghdad. And for the record, I hold no grudge against the soldiers who are doing their duty in Iraq as they pledged to do when they signed up. The real villains who should be held accountable are Bush and Blair.

[Donagh]

EG, will you please stay on topic. You've been asked before.

[mylestheslasher]

May I ask a question of the posters that support the parade. Do you agree with the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? Its a simple question - answers please.

I agree with the UN-authorised war in Afghanistan, I disagree with the non-UN authorised war in Baghdad. And for the record, I hold no grudge against the soldiers who are doing their duty in Iraq as they pledged to do when they signed up. The real villains who should be held accountable are Bush and Blair.

So have you a problem if people like you who are against a war, go out on the streets and peacefully protest against it? For the record, I am against both wars as they are unjust. I also think there is nothing wrong with a protest in these circumstances as I believe the celebrating of returning soldiers from a foreign war that has been barbaric is wrong. I don't believe my feelings are much different to many in your own unionist community.

[mylestheslasher]

EG, will you please stay on topic. You've been asked before.

In fairness Donagh I  believe EG was responding to me and I also believe that it was relevant to the topic.

[Donagh]

EG, will you please stay on topic. You've been asked before.

In fairness Donagh I  believe EG was responding to me and I also believe that it was relevant to the topic.

I don't see how it's relevant. As far as I can see it's spam. It he wants to make a 'whatabout' point in relation to SF all he has to do is state it without bombarding the Board with this rubbish at every opportunity.

[Zapatista]

Donagh is right it is spam and opportunistic. You should lock this thread again Donagh as the topic is now about who did what as the original argument seems to have run it's course or is being avoided.

It might let the Bard off the hook too easily though?

[Evil Genius]

EG, will you please stay on topic. You've been asked before.

You opened a thread about the Bard of Dunclug.
Another poster offered the following opinion - "Ah but wishing murder on someone for opposing a march on a website, thats shocking, even by Northern Politicians standards"
I disagreed, giving specific, referenced examples of why I thought so. (Post #975, above, in case anyone has missed it)

That all seems pretty much standard Discussion Board protocol to me. But if you feel I'm out of order, why don't you report it to the Mods, and let them sort it out? After all, surely you would rather have any offending posts deleted, rather than have to lock the thread again, with the offending posts still there for all to read? 

[Zapatista]

EG, will you please stay on topic. You've been asked before.

You opened a thread about the Bard of Dunclug.
Another poster offered the following opinion - "Ah but wishing murder on someone for opposing a march on a website, thats shocking, even by Northern Politicians standards"
I disagreed, giving specific, referenced examples of why I thought so. (Post #975, above, in case anyone has missed it)

That all seems pretty much standard Discussion Board protocol to me. But if you feel I'm out of order, why don't you report it to the Mods, and let them sort it out? After all, surely you would rather have any offending posts deleted, rather than have to lock the thread again, with the offending posts still there for all to read? 

If your field of comparison is reduced to - someone who would wish it within the last month - could you come up with eveidence other than that of the Bard?

[Evil Genius]

May I ask a question of the posters that support the parade. Do you agree with the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? Its a simple question - answers please.

I agree with the UN-authorised war in Afghanistan, I disagree with the non-UN authorised war in Baghdad. And for the record, I hold no grudge against the soldiers who are doing their duty in Iraq as they pledged to do when they signed up. The real villains who should be held accountable are Bush and Blair.

So have you a problem if people like you who are against a war, go out on the streets and peacefully protest against it? For the record, I am against both wars as they are unjust. I also think there is nothing wrong with a protest in these circumstances as I believe the celebrating of returning soldiers from a foreign war that has been barbaric is wrong. I don't believe my feelings are much different to many in your own unionist community.

I have no problem with people protesting against either Iraq or Afghanistan. I am not impressed by people whose real motives may be simple anti-Brit prejudice, or a desire to prove their Republican credentials (SF) in a "Let's see who can p1ss highest up the wall" competition against other organisations (eirige), under the guise of anti-War protests. But I don't suppose there's anything one may reasonably do about that.
I am amused, as it happens, by the fact that the SF protest actually stirred many thousands more to join the Welcome Home than would otherwise be the case, but regret that this also encouraged a small minority (several hundreds?) of lowlife "Loyalists" [sic] also to crawl out from under their stone and disgrace the Parade. But again, there's not much anyone can easily do about them, either.

Anyhow, I know of more than one person who joined the Welcome Home parade, who had previously joined anti-Iraq demonstrations in NI. I do not see any contradiction in that.

[Evil Genius]

If your field of comparison is reduced to - someone who would wish it within the last month - could you come up with eveidence other than that of the Bard?

I have no idea what you mean by that.

[lynchbhoy]

its this kind of forked tonguedness that the bard seems guilty of indulging in....

I mean , he may have one escape card that someone used his account to post that last highly offensive sectarian remark, but the same excuse cannot be given for the previous incidents of lesser sectarian type posts on here

what would be the defence here, the and all have gone very quiet on this front

are these exclamations that the psni are 'very close' to catching the culprit the usual rubbish of sidestepping the issue and as per usual , nothing is being done ....and I mean here that nothing is being done to prove the bard guilty  - because we know nothing is being done to catch a non-existant 'culprit' !

[Zapatista]

If your field of comparison is reduced to - someone who would wish it within the last month - could you come up with eveidence other than that of the Bard?

I have no idea what you mean by that.

All those you mentioned have renounced violence since atleast 10 years ago. And none have called for vilolence as elected reps. Can you make comparisons of elected reps advoctaing violence in the past 10 years other than that of the Bard?

[Donagh]

You opened a thread about the Bard of Dunclug.
Another poster offered the following opinion - "Ah but wishing murder on someone for opposing a march on a website, thats shocking, even by Northern Politicians standards"
I disagreed, giving specific, referenced examples of why I thought so. (Post #975, above, in case anyone has missed it)

That all seems pretty much standard Discussion Board protocol to me. But if you feel I'm out of order, why don't you report it to the Mods, and let them sort it out? After all, surely you would rather have any offending posts deleted, rather than have to lock the thread again, with the offending posts still there for all to read? 

EG, it's irrelevant spam and there's no point there you couldn't say in five or six words. Apart from what 5Times might like to say I'm no tout, so I would prefer to sort out any such issues between ourselves without bothering the mods.

[mylestheslasher]

May I ask a question of the posters that support the parade. Do you agree with the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? Its a simple question - answers please.

I agree with the UN-authorised war in Afghanistan, I disagree with the non-UN authorised war in Baghdad. And for the record, I hold no grudge against the soldiers who are doing their duty in Iraq as they pledged to do when they signed up. The real villains who should be held accountable are Bush and Blair.

So have you a problem if people like you who are against a war, go out on the streets and peacefully protest against it? For the record, I am against both wars as they are unjust. I also think there is nothing wrong with a protest in these circumstances as I believe the celebrating of returning soldiers from a foreign war that has been barbaric is wrong. I don't believe my feelings are much different to many in your own unionist community.

I have no problem with people protesting against either Iraq or Afghanistan. I am not impressed by people whose real motives may be simple anti-Brit prejudice, or a desire to prove their Republican credentials (SF) in a "Let's see who can p1ss highest up the wall" competition against other organisations (eirige), under the guise of anti-War protests. But I don't suppose there's anything one may reasonably do about that.
I am amused, as it happens, by the fact that the SF protest actually stirred many thousands more to join the Welcome Home than would otherwise be the case, but regret that this also encouraged a small minority (several hundreds?) of lowlife "Loyalists" [sic] also to crawl out from under their stone and disgrace the Parade. But again, there's not much anyone can easily do about them, either.

Anyhow, I know of more than one person who joined the Welcome Home parade, who had previously joined anti-Iraq demonstrations in NI. I do not see any contradiction in that.

And isn't also possible that a Sinn Fein member might protest, not because their "motives may be simple anti-Brit prejudice, or a desire to prove their Republican credentials" but because they are against the war in Iraq or Afghanistan as well as previous british army behaviour in the north. I don't see anything wrong with that. The best solution to this parade would have been a welcome home "function" in a hall somewhere, behind closed doors with family and friends, there was no need to flaunt it about the place - especially considering the horrendous death tolls in the countries that these soldiers have just left. I believe that this parade was manipulated by some unionist elements that wanted to start trouble, looking for a violent reaction and some point scoring over republicans. If that is not the case why are similar parades not happening in cities in Britain?