Boxing Thread

[The Iceman]

Collins  - Eubank 1 in Cork - definitely the biggest fight in Ireland to date. I don't think Frampton's next one eclipses it.
I've a big Frampton fan - I've shared before his note and autograph to me  - he's a classy guy. I have some real concerns after his last performance and hope he can turn things around. This is a big fight, a big money fight, a big exposure fight but a very risky fight...definitely makes for interesting viewing...

If he were to lose, I don't think he will personally, but if he was....that would be the end of him?

It won't be the end of him but it certainly knocks him off the big money train? He left McGuigan for big fights, including in the U.S..I think those go away with a loss.... He deserves some good pay days, set himself up, take a media role, work with olympians, I don't know...as I said I'm a fan and want the best for him but I'm also a realist - if his performance doesn't improve from last time out his retirement plans are going to change...

[tonto1888]

Collins  - Eubank 1 in Cork - definitely the biggest fight in Ireland to date. I don't think Frampton's next one eclipses it.
I've a big Frampton fan - I've shared before his note and autograph to me  - he's a classy guy. I have some real concerns after his last performance and hope he can turn things around. This is a big fight, a big money fight, a big exposure fight but a very risky fight...definitely makes for interesting viewing...

If he were to lose, I don't think he will personally, but if he was....that would be the end of him?

It won't be the end of him but it certainly knocks him off the big money train? He left McGuigan for big fights, including in the U.S..I think those go away with a loss.... He deserves some good pay days, set himself up, take a media role, work with olympians, I don't know...as I said I'm a fan and want the best for him but I'm also a realist - if his performance doesn't improve from last time out his retirement plans are going to change...

surely he has plenty of money as it is

[Milltown Row2]

I'm hoping Carl has been able to assess his weaknesses from last time out... a few things i noticed was a lack of urgency when he was on top in the early rounds, dont be messing about and give the fans a show, if you can knock him out do it as soon as you can, i felt he let the other guy off the hook in the early rounds and then was drawn into a harder fight than it appeared

Hopefully he has been able to lift his fitness level so that things aren't as laboured, should the fight go the distance

Hopefully his confidence is back to where is was and that will only help his hunger to

No complacency, as this guy can punch and is very experienced...

And forget what the bookies have it at, he's not a 1/6 against this guy, I fancy this fight to go the distance but easier than last time

[Milltown Row2]

Collins  - Eubank 1 in Cork - definitely the biggest fight in Ireland to date. I don't think Frampton's next one eclipses it.
I've a big Frampton fan - I've shared before his note and autograph to me  - he's a classy guy. I have some real concerns after his last performance and hope he can turn things around. This is a big fight, a big money fight, a big exposure fight but a very risky fight...definitely makes for interesting viewing...

If he were to lose, I don't think he will personally, but if he was....that would be the end of him?

It won't be the end of him but it certainly knocks him off the big money train? He left McGuigan for big fights, including in the U.S..I think those go away with a loss.... He deserves some good pay days, set himself up, take a media role, work with olympians, I don't know...as I said I'm a fan and want the best for him but I'm also a realist - if his performance doesn't improve from last time out his retirement plans are going to change...

surely he has plenty of money as it is

How much is enough? I'm not sure what he has, Ive never asked him but should he retire after this fight he'll be 31, thats 40/50 years plus to make sure you an income to live and pay for your own life and then generate enough money so that your children and close family are comfortable.....

I'd say he's no where near got the money you think he has... he's got people to payout of his purse, once you add it all up youre not left with a big pile

Brian Magee travelled to Denmark to fight Kessler in defense of his world title, I'm nearly sure he travelled by minibus! Magee runs a sucessful gym and I'm sure if he had made it he'd be relaxing and enjoying retirement

[The Iceman]

Collins  - Eubank 1 in Cork - definitely the biggest fight in Ireland to date. I don't think Frampton's next one eclipses it.
I've a big Frampton fan - I've shared before his note and autograph to me  - he's a classy guy. I have some real concerns after his last performance and hope he can turn things around. This is a big fight, a big money fight, a big exposure fight but a very risky fight...definitely makes for interesting viewing...

If he were to lose, I don't think he will personally, but if he was....that would be the end of him?

It won't be the end of him but it certainly knocks him off the big money train? He left McGuigan for big fights, including in the U.S..I think those go away with a loss.... He deserves some good pay days, set himself up, take a media role, work with olympians, I don't know...as I said I'm a fan and want the best for him but I'm also a realist - if his performance doesn't improve from last time out his retirement plans are going to change...

surely he has plenty of money as it is

what is plenty of money? because he's from Tiger's bay he should be happy with what he has? or from Belfast? The more you get the more you want the more you need... I'm sure he enjoys taking care of his family, having a nice house, car and all the trimmings...300K a year lifestyle - for the next 50 years....
I don't think he has that kind of money... but he can get it if he stays on track..

[tonto1888]

Collins  - Eubank 1 in Cork - definitely the biggest fight in Ireland to date. I don't think Frampton's next one eclipses it.
I've a big Frampton fan - I've shared before his note and autograph to me  - he's a classy guy. I have some real concerns after his last performance and hope he can turn things around. This is a big fight, a big money fight, a big exposure fight but a very risky fight...definitely makes for interesting viewing...

If he were to lose, I don't think he will personally, but if he was....that would be the end of him?

It won't be the end of him but it certainly knocks him off the big money train? He left McGuigan for big fights, including in the U.S..I think those go away with a loss.... He deserves some good pay days, set himself up, take a media role, work with olympians, I don't know...as I said I'm a fan and want the best for him but I'm also a realist - if his performance doesn't improve from last time out his retirement plans are going to change...

surely he has plenty of money as it is

what is plenty of money? because he's from Tiger's bay he should be happy with what he has? or from Belfast? The more you get the more you want the more you need... I'm sure he enjoys taking care of his family, having a nice house, car and all the trimmings...300K a year lifestyle - for the next 50 years....
I don't think he has that kind of money... but he can get it if he stays on track..

maybe I phrased it wrong - and I left out a ? - but I was not referring to where he is from or suggesting he should be happy with what he has got. Obviously the more he can get the better but if he retired now would he not have plenty of money to live a comfortable life? Certainly he would have more than most?

[The Iceman]

retiring in his 30s to live another 40/50 years on what he has?
What's enough? I'm interested to know what you think a family could manage on per year for the next 40-50 years and be comfortable like they might be now?
I'd say he would want to be on 300K a year for the rest of his life to make sure he continues his current lifestyle, enjoys a nice house, car, holidays and all the trimmings, takes care of his kids financial future and looks after extended family. Thats 15 million in the bank before he retires..I don't think he has that?

[tonto1888]

retiring in his 30s to live another 40/50 years on what he has?
What's enough? I'm interested to know what you think a family could manage on per year for the next 40-50 years and be comfortable like they might be now?
I'd say he would want to be on 300K a year for the rest of his life to make sure he continues his current lifestyle, enjoys a nice house, car, holidays and all the trimmings, takes care of his kids financial future and looks after extended family. Thats 15 million in the bank before he retires..I don't think he has that?

I have no idea but Im sure I read the Santa Cruz fights "set him up for life"?

[tonto1888]

a quick google search shows that boxers don't get paid as much as I thought. I guess when you see the money the like of Mayweather/Joshua got/get it skews things

[Milltown Row2]

£100 grand a year would just about set me up for life if i stopped working, as i'd stil have my bills holidays puting kids through school and arranging trust funds for my kids. my needs are modest 

..$1.5 million purse for for the fights with Cruz, equates to a million sterling possibly... now out of that million he's to pay the McGuigans, all of the McGuigans.. the mum daughter and 2 sons all had an intrest in the Cyclone promotions... percentages as trainers, PR, management, accommadation, flights, gym fees, food

Those costs add up and don't exactly leave you with much to yourself.. getting established takes time and that window of making big money is a small one

[JimStynes]

I don't think he has as much in the bank as people would think. He has been getting cleaned for years. Boxers in general don't get paid that much apart for the top 10 or so fellas. If he got the Selby and Santa Cruz fights then he will probably be happy enough. Nice wee gig working at Sky Sports or something like that and that'll keep him ticking over.  As much as McGregor is a dickhead you have to give it to him - he's fooled so many people into getting him over 100m for a single fight. Amazing.

[nrico2006]

Generally not the big money at lighter weights. Expenses is some chunk out of their purse.

[lurganblue]

Being hung up on fighting at home surely has had a negative impact on his career.  He had his foot in the door in America and already headlined in Vegas.  Fighters from here or even in Britain rarely get a chance to do that.  If it wasn't for wanting the 3rd Santa Cruz fight to be in Belfast then it would already have happened.

[JimStynes]

I agree! Fight in Vegas or fight in Windsor? Ffs.

[Milltown Row2]

Being hung up on fighting at home surely has had a negative impact on his career.  He had his foot in the door in America and already headlined in Vegas.  Fighters from here or even in Britain rarely get a chance to do that.  If it wasn't for wanting the 3rd Santa Cruz fight to be in Belfast then it would already have happened.

He has fought him twice in the states, he's had 3 fights over there and won twice lost one, Cruz wont come back to Belfast, his father wont let that happen, and why should he!

Windsor park fight would generate a lot of money for all involved those are the pay days he needs to retire comfortably enough, he needs Selby fight or another big hitter to generate enough interest to fill the likes of Windsor and get a big TV company to show it, where there will be more money...

So much on at stake with this fight, a good peformance needed, he hasnt picked a muppet either so regardless of the bookies thoughts he'll have to come through it with the chance of getting an eliminator as the other lads wont be too fussed to fight Carl unless they have to