Dublin v Kerry all ireland SF

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orangeman

What is the Kerry team ? Has it been announced ?

King of Kilskerry


D Murphy
M Reidy
T O'Sullivan
M O'Se
T O'Se
A O'Mahony
K Young
D O'Se
S Scanlon
P Galvin
E Brosnan
D O'Sullivan
C Cooper
B Sheehan
MF Russell

5 Sams

Quote from: MauriceMalpas on August 22, 2007, 11:39:56 AM
Can someone inform me why Tommy "2 litre" hasnt started, I know he was injured earlier in the season but there must be something else.....................

Speaking to a few of the locals when on hols...I believe he had a nasty infection in his leg which knocked him clean of his feet and in hospital for a few days.

BTW why "Tommy 2 Litre"??
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DUBSFORSAM1

Am actually more worried now about the match with Donaghy not starting than I would have been if he was...with McConnell a 6'3 midfielder I would have expected him to have more success on Donaghy than on a quicker more mobile full forward...might be tempted to put him on MFR who hasn't been the most successful this year now and hope Henry/Griffen can mark Cooper/Sheehan..

5 Sams

Quote from: King of Kilskerry on August 22, 2007, 05:02:43 PM

D Murphy
M Reidy
T O'Sullivan
M O'Se
T O'Se
A O'Mahony
K Young
D O'Se
S Scanlon
P Galvin
E Brosnan
D O'Sullivan
C Cooper
B Sheehan
MF Russell


Where did that team come from??
60,61,68,91,94
The Aristocrat Years

MauriceMalpas

Quote from: 5 Sams on August 22, 2007, 05:31:05 PM
Quote from: King of Kilskerry on August 22, 2007, 05:02:43 PM

D Murphy
M Reidy
T O'Sullivan
M O'Se
T O'Se
A O'Mahony
K Young
D O'Se
S Scanlon
P Galvin
E Brosnan
D O'Sullivan
C Cooper
B Sheehan
MF Russell


Where did that team come from??
His Arse

INDIANA

yerra-yerra-yerra there isn't a hope of donaghy not starting.

MauriceMalpas

Pat O'Shea and his selectors won't name the team though until tomorrow night (Thursday) as they want to give the injured Paul Galvin all the time they can to recover.

Gnevin

Quote from: MauriceMalpas on August 22, 2007, 05:48:55 PM
Pat O'Shea and his selectors won't name the team though until tomorrow night (Thursday) as they want to give the injured Paul Galvin all the time they can to recover.

What happened to the team having to be named on a tuesday to give time to print the programs ?
Anyway, long story short... is a phrase whose origins are complicated and rambling.

Frank Casey

Quote from: Gnevin on August 22, 2007, 06:10:48 PM
Quote from: MauriceMalpas on August 22, 2007, 05:48:55 PM
Pat O'Shea and his selectors won't name the team though until tomorrow night (Thursday) as they want to give the injured Paul Galvin all the time they can to recover.

What happened to the team having to be named on a tuesday to give time to print the programs ?

Gnevin - with the way some managers regard the declared team as a joke I wonder why bother naming a team line up at all.
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Kerry Mike

From Da Paper:

Mickey Ned O'Sullivan and Tommy Carr have experienced the magic of Dublin's rivalry with Kerry both as player and manager. Brendan Larkin sought their views ahead of Sunday's All-Ireland semi-final instalment of a classic confrontation.

Q 1 — Do you feel this Dublin side is ready to take the final step and win an All-Ireland title?

Mickey 'Ned' O'Sullivan: "Dublin have been the most consistent team in the championship this season. They have done all that has been asked of them in huge pressure games in front of 80,000 spectators.

"They are also under enormous pressure from the media, particularly in Dublin where the expectations are very high. They have built a momentum and confidence, have identified their weaknesses along the way, and the only remaining problem they have is that they cannot focus for a full game, but what team can. Cork were the only team to do that this year, against Meath last Sunday.

"There is no question they are the form team, but the Waterford hurlers were the form team also and look what happened to them. How often have you heard it said it's all on the day. Dublin's pedigree has been excellent all year but it's what they do next Sunday that matters.

Tommy Carr: "Dublin are ready to win the All-Ireland if the Kerry team are not fully ready to do so. If they can beat Kerry I feel Dublin have a great chance of winning it. I'm basing that on Cork last Sunday; it was their only conclusive performance that I could say, yes, this team is hungry to win an All-Ireland. They have huge talent, but they have never delivered that talent as a whole on the pitch. Last Sunday they did.

"I look at Dublin and I think they are getting the most out of the panel they have. If you take away your blinkers and your tradition of Cork and Kerry, Dublin have produced as much quality as either."

Q 2 — How important is a successful Dublin team to the GAA?

Mickey 'Ned' O'Sullivan: Dublin to win the All-Ireland is the victory everyone wants. I stayed over in Dublin on the night they beat Derry and you couldn't imagine the amount of people we met on the street wearing their colours. At the moment you have only 5% GAA penetration level in the population of Dublin. We need an All-Ireland victory to bring that up to double figures.

"The future of the GAA is in the capital. You need crowds coming to matches and there are over 1.2 million people living in Dublin. Ultimately money is very important to run an organisation the size of the GAA and the more often we fill Croke Park the better. Dublin are doing that at present. The more hype we create about the game the better. Every kid will want to play. Imagine then what an All-Ireland victory would do?"

Tommy Carr: "In a word, crucial. They bring in the crowds and that means plenty of revenue to be re-distributed among the units of the association for coaching and so on.

"An All-Ireland victory would bring a massive injection of youngsters into the game. We may be over-emphasising the importance of winning, however. Whatever way the championship pans out, Dublin will fill Croke Park every time they play there, but it would be far easier if they were to win the Sam Maguire Cup.

Q 3 — Are Kerry more vulnerable than usual because of their Championship schedule this season?

Mickey 'Ned' O'Sullivan: "I certainly thought they were very vulnerable before the Monaghan game, but I don't think they are now. Whether they have had enough games or not I honestly don't know. It's a balancing act really. Their management saw enough in the game against Monaghan to know the areas that need to be addressed. They'll tighten up, bring in one or two defenders and one attacker and I expect we'll see a different Kerry on Sunday.

"If it was an average team that played Monaghan two weeks ago they'd have been taken by them. Kerry have that bit of class; refusing to panic and to have the patience to win the game. Having a very good bench was also a major factor for Kerry. Unlike other counties, they were able to bring in scoring forwards who can win a game for you. That's the primary difference between Kerry and the rest."

Tommy Carr: "Strange as it may seem I would give Kerry less of a chance of winning on Sunday than I did before the Monaghan game. It was the second time this year they were asked questions and those questions still remain to be answered. I don't believe the Kerry defence is as good as it was when Seamus Moynihan was playing.

"I also don't like to see Paul Galvin being replaced because for me he has been the Brian Dooher of the Kerry team. He's the one player who will roll up the sleeves and win the 50/50 ball and make those 30-40 yards runs when they are needed. He has not been playing well this year and that must be a worry for Kerry."

Q 4 — Who in your view is the key leadership figure on the respective teams?

Mickey 'Ned' O'Sullivan: First of all let me say that it's essentially a team game. The key figures are usually the most experienced players but occasionally a lesser-known player will step up and win the game for you. It could be a defender or a forward. It all depends. From a Kerry point of view everyone will look to Darragh Ó Sé, but it could be any one of a number of players.

"The Brogan brothers Bernard and Alan are big players for Dublin, they could play a crucial role for them. The Dublin attack is very creative. They scored 17 points against Derry and still kicked a lot of wides. They are moving far better than they were last year and have an excellent free-taker in Mark Vaughan. He pointed a couple of 45s against Derry so you cannot give him too many chances."

Tommy Carr: "The powerhouse and engine house, and the best midfielder I've seen over the last ten years, is Darragh Ó Sé. He was one half of the twin peaks Kerry had when Moynihan was playing. He's about 75-80% of the leadership Kerry have on the pitch at the minute, and I would put his brother Tomás up there alongside him. Dublin depend almost entirely on Ciarán Whelan for the same role.

"It's going to be a massive dual between Darragh and Ciarán on Sunday and the outcome could well hinge on who comes out on top. Their demeanour on the pitch and the way they are going to play the game will have a huge influence on how their colleagues perform."

Q 5 — Who'll win and why?

Mickey 'Ned' O'Sullivan: "It's a very hard game to call. Being a small bit biased, I feel the game against Monaghan will have brought Kerry on a lot. Obviously, if it hasn't, they will be in trouble. Kerry are really only beginning to peak now. Dublin, on the other hand, had to peak back in June against Meath; they had to do the same again the following week in the replay and had to do the same for all their subsequent games. How often can they continue to do that?

"If you look at it logically you would have to favour Dublin but football isn't logical. It's based on class, scoring potential and maximising possession, and there isn't any team better at doing all three than Kerry."

Tommy Carr: Obviously I would love to see Dublin win. Being objective about it, I just think the Kerry forwards will put the Dublin defence under an enormous pressure and I don't think they will be able to cope.

"Up to now they've had maybe one or two forwards to contend with, but this Kerry team has at least eight players who can score. That will call for man-marking and that is different from defending. If you go back to the Derry game, Paddy Bradley was the only forward who caused them any trouble, and he managed to score five points."

Q 6 — What's so special about the Dublin-Kerry rivalry?

Mickey 'Ned' O'Sullivan: "It's basically an urban-rural thing. The townies versus the culchies sort of thing. Kerry were the standard-bearers traditionally of the country folk. There has been some magnificent games between the counties going back to 1955, while the games of the 70's and 80's added to the mystique. Between 1975 and 1986 Kerry and Dublin won 12 out of the 13 finals between them.

"Two years ago we brought both teams together for three days, and we made out that there were over 300 All-Ireland medals in Kenmare that year. We were the fiercest of rivals on the field but off it we are the best of friends and that for me is one of the greatest features of the organisation."

Tommy Carr: "The great tradition and the intense competition between the counties in the 70's and 80's. That 70's thing has never been allowed to be forgotten. It was talked up during my time and I'm certain it's been talked about with the current squad."
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orangeman

What's wrong with Donaghy ? Injured ? Off form ?

ONeill

Has his presence at FF unsettled the natural instincts of the other Kerry players? Against Monaghan Kerry simply used the big man as a bulls-eye for the majority of attacks. It negated the influence of the other half forwards and corners.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: Hound on August 22, 2007, 10:22:04 AM
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Quote from: Kerry Mike on August 21, 2007, 08:15:27 PM
Kerry team just named, huge surprise in the lineup, cant believe they dropped him, but as Pillar may be reading this to get some hints for his own selection, yerra I will hould off on the breaking news for now.


The Gooch I'd say, off-colour at the minute.

I'd say it was a case of The Gooch being starved of decent possession against Monaghan. As regards my prediction that its Donaghy I'm not that sure on further thought. Monaghan coped extremely well with the high ball into him, but look at Dublins defence. They weren't too hot against Derry so maybe Donaghy would be an asset to have in there.
No chance of Donaghy or Gooch not starting, injury permitting. MFR and Brosnan the "big" names who are in danger, I'd say.

I don't think the exclusion either of Brosnan or MFR would be a 'huge surprise'? Expected, rather.
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

Kerry Mike

The Other cousins, Aon, Sum and No are all expected to be included in the Kerry line up released tomorrow evening, But who will they replace, yerra tis a fecking mystery.
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Hurling Christy Ring Cup
Munster Senior Football