All-Ireland Series Sam Maguire 2026

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marty34

Hurson favouring Monaghan.

O'Hanlon took about 8 steps to create that goal.

Then Mc Carthy climbs all over the Louth player and he gives a hop ball.  Then he proceeds to throw the throw up straight to the Monaghan player.

OakLeaf

Quote from: oakleafgael on June 28, 2026, 10:05:10 AM
Quote from: screenexile on June 28, 2026, 09:59:59 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 28, 2026, 09:43:09 AMSo, in your opinion, the referee has either made a mistake by giving a free and then moving it forward..... or.....made a mistake by bringing a mark forward.



If it's deemed to be delaying the game the ref can take it forward 50m from a mark.

Not sure why Kilpatricks wasn't moved up as well though.

Because thats no longer the rules. Neither should have been brought up. Its irrelevant if the mark has been claimed or not. It simply changes if from a mark to a free kick from that position.

Here is the rule:

4.16 (a) For an opposing player to be less than 13m from the ball before a free kick or a sideline kick is
taken, except where the free kick is being taken immediately, with the Referee's consent, or by
means of a Solo and Go.
Penalty - Free kick 13m more advantageous than place of original kick - up to opponents' 13m line.

(b) In the case of a Free Kick awarded for a Mark:
(i) For an opposing Player not retreating 13m to allow space for the kick to be taken, to
deliberately block or attempt to block the kick within 13m, or to impede the free taker
when the player is taking the kick.
Penalty - Free kick 50m more advantageous than place of original free kick up to the opponents
13m line.
In the case of a Kick-Out Mark, the player taking the free may choose to take the free kick from
outside the 40m arc though the application of this Rule would otherwise result in a free kick from
inside the 40m arc.
(ii) For a player awarded a Mark to delay longer than 15 seconds to take the kick.
Penalty - Cancel the Mark and award a free kick to opponents.

(c) In the case of a Player awarded a Kick-Out Mark opting to play on immediately:
For the Player to be illegally challenged, within four metres of the position from where the Kick-Out Mark is
made.
Penalty -A free kick from where the foul occurred.

screenexile

He's moved back towards Louth yer man took 10 steps there before he wa fouled and it was a few in!

thebigfullforward

That's ridiculous from O'Hanlon lol. Serious pace there

tonto1888


screenexile

Monaghan have not been able to cope with the extra man it's like they've never prepared for it.

Fair play to Louth they're excellent in midfield and getting plenty of ball and shots off.

Blowitupref

Quote from: tonto1888 on June 28, 2026, 02:26:07 PMSome 2 pointer there
And the timing of it. Half time Louth 0-12 Monaghan 1-7

Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

SCFC

Louth have been excellent with their 14 against 16.

Wildweasel74

Why u using the name Oakleaf? U obviously not a Derry man, to take u tine to type all that crap out! Now if u dont mind, theres another game going on!!

marty34

Is the Monaghan 2nd keeper injured?

Keane

#2575
Quote from: OakLeaf on June 28, 2026, 02:20:17 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on June 28, 2026, 10:05:10 AM
Quote from: screenexile on June 28, 2026, 09:59:59 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 28, 2026, 09:43:09 AMSo, in your opinion, the referee has either made a mistake by giving a free and then moving it forward..... or.....made a mistake by bringing a mark forward.



If it's deemed to be delaying the game the ref can take it forward 50m from a mark.

Not sure why Kilpatricks wasn't moved up as well though.

Because thats no longer the rules. Neither should have been brought up. Its irrelevant if the mark has been claimed or not. It simply changes if from a mark to a free kick from that position.

Here is the rule:

4.16 (a) For an opposing player to be less than 13m from the ball before a free kick or a sideline kick is
taken, except where the free kick is being taken immediately, with the Referee's consent, or by
means of a Solo and Go.
Penalty - Free kick 13m more advantageous than place of original kick - up to opponents' 13m line.

(b) In the case of a Free Kick awarded for a Mark:
(i) For an opposing Player not retreating 13m to allow space for the kick to be taken, to
deliberately block or attempt to block the kick within 13m, or to impede the free taker
when the player is taking the kick.
Penalty - Free kick 50m more advantageous than place of original free kick up to the opponents
13m line.
In the case of a Kick-Out Mark, the player taking the free may choose to take the free kick from
outside the 40m arc though the application of this Rule would otherwise result in a free kick from
inside the 40m arc.
(ii) For a player awarded a Mark to delay longer than 15 seconds to take the kick.
Penalty - Cancel the Mark and award a free kick to opponents.

(c) In the case of a Player awarded a Kick-Out Mark opting to play on immediately:
For the Player to be illegally challenged, within four metres of the position from where the Kick-Out Mark is
made.
Penalty -A free kick from where the foul occurred.

I suspect ball was brought forward for the delay foul as was detailed in the IT article about David Gough last week.

QuoteThe Irish Times


The 'delay foul' was one of the recommendations tabled by the FRC. It deals with tactical fouling for deliberately delaying or impeding play. The penalty is a free 50 metres more advantageous from where the foul occurred.

Then, with five minutes remaining and the game tied, Cork win possession and set off on a rapid counterattack.

Caolan McColgan tries to chase down RuairĂ­ Deane, but just as the Cork player crosses the 65-metre line, his Donegal pursuer cuts across from behind and barrels him to the ground. Gough blows the whistle. Delay foul. It's a mirror of the clips we had watched back in Slane several hours earlier.

Gough signals the ball will be brought forward 50 metres. Some aggrieved Donegal players question the call. Gough responds, "Delay foul, rule 5.42." The players back off. Nothing more is said. Cork opt to move the ball back outside the arc for a two-pointer, which Steven Sherlock converts. It ends up as the match-winning score.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2026/06/20/a-day-in-the-life-with-david-gough-ill-do-it-as-long-as-im-contributing-to-the-games/

I wasn't aware of it before I read that article but seems like it's something the refs are looking at since he was watching examples of it before the game.

DaleCooper

Quote from: marty34 on June 28, 2026, 02:14:35 PMHurson favouring Monaghan.

O'Hanlon took about 8 steps to create that goal.

Then Mc Carthy climbs all over the Louth player and he gives a hop ball.  Then he proceeds to throw the throw up straight to the Monaghan player.


Slow mo of red is better angle and looks less malicious. Most refs would have given yellow/black for blocking runner.

screenexile

Quote from: DaleCooper on June 28, 2026, 02:33:13 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 28, 2026, 02:14:35 PMHurson favouring Monaghan.

O'Hanlon took about 8 steps to create that goal.

Then Mc Carthy climbs all over the Louth player and he gives a hop ball.  Then he proceeds to throw the throw up straight to the Monaghan player.


Slow mo of red is better angle and looks less malicious. Most refs would have given yellow/black for blocking runner.

No way he jumped into the tackle and his shoulder hit him on the head it's nailed on!

marty34

Quote from: DaleCooper on June 28, 2026, 02:33:13 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 28, 2026, 02:14:35 PMHurson favouring Monaghan.

O'Hanlon took about 8 steps to create that goal.

Then Mc Carthy climbs all over the Louth player and he gives a hop ball.  Then he proceeds to throw the throw up straight to the Monaghan player.


Slow mo of red is better angle and looks less malicious. Most refs would have given yellow/black for blocking runner.

100%. It's a normal block the runner. No Monaghan player complained at all.

Yellow or black would have sufficed.

Wildweasel74