All-Ireland Series Sam Maguire 2026

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downgael2065

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 04, 2026, 08:31:06 AM
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Quote from: Blowitupref on June 03, 2026, 02:10:04 PMSaturday June 13

Round 2A

Donegal v Cork, MacCumhaill Park, 3pm

Round 2B

Monaghan v Roscommon, St Tiernach's Park, 4.30pm, GAA+

Kildare v Kerry, Cedral St Conleth's Park, 5.30pm

Derry v Meath, Celtic Park, 7pm, GAA+

Sunday June 14

Round 2A

Louth v Armagh,Inniskeen, 1pm, RTE

Galway v Westmeath, Pearse Stadium, 2pm, GAA+

Tyrone v Mayo,Healy Park, 3.30pm, RTE

Round 2B

Cavan v Dublin, Breffni Park, 2pm


Games I was expecting to get live coverage are chosen.

Donegal, Kerry and Dublin games not shown at all? Trying to encourage Cork/Kerry/Dublin fans to travel maybe? Cork Donegal definitely one that should be covered given the journey you're asking fans to make!

Should be a cracking atmosphere in Inniskeen for sure! 8 games that are all either. 3 games where it's tough to call a winner (Derry Meath, Tyrone Mayo and Monaghan Rossies) 4 where ok theres a clear favourite but the underdogs definitely have a great chance of an upset especially the ones at home (Louth Armagh, Cavan Dublin, Galway Westmeath and Donegal Cork) all set up lovely for an ambush

Kerry Kildare probably the only game that'll be a non event especially if Kerry get bodies back.
I agree with whoever said it's a poor enough draw, to my mind there's no real blockbuster clash and contrary to your read on it, I think Donegal, Galway and Kerry will win pulling up, Dublin could easily do likewise and similarly Armagh, but the venues do give a wee bit of a chance to the home teams, particularly Louth.
That leaves 3 games which are hard to call  and they truly are hard to call, but none of the six involved are top tier contenders, so hopefully good games, but not blockbusters. Of those three games, I'd say the rossies are probably the safest call, but it could go either way too.
Re the TV coverage, I'm glad that common sense has prevailed and the three least appetising clashes have been the three casualties.

Been some great games to date, let's hope this year's championship doesn't peter out like last year's, where the games from quarter finals stage on were largely non-events.
Realistically we're at the last 16 stage and there'll always be mismatches, hopefully from the last 12 on games should be more exciting, naturally not every team can be a contender but like the Cavan/Westmeath can still be good games. Again I think Westmeath will give Galway their fill of it but probably fall short in the end. All teams bar Kildare have at least a punchers chance I would say.

With the Cork and Dublin games it depends which version turn up, if Cork are at it they'll cause Donegal hassle and make a game of it, if not it'll be a 10 plus point hammering, if Dublin are on it they'll beat Cavan easily but if they aren't Cavan again will give them hassle. Potential for Kerry to meet Galway/Armagh in a quarter final which would be properly blockbuster.

In a weird way its probably better to get kerry sooner rather than later as they get lads healthier with more fitness and sharpness with each week. Depends on how bad the injuries are. Gavin white had a setback? He dropped out of squad for donegal but came on in munster final. Hes very short on football this year.

Not sure if a round 3 away to tyrone, roscommon or mayo/ monaghan is going to help or hinder them at this stage. Kerry armagh quarter final would be juicy alright

JB3456

Is Round 3 open draw for home advantage or do the 2A losers get it?

JoG2

Quote from: JB3456 on June 04, 2026, 03:48:47 PMIs Round 3 open draw for home advantage or do the 2A losers get it?

Open

JB3456

how do they decide who has home advantage, assuming there are 2 bowls for 2A and 2B?

Armagh18

Quote from: JB3456 on June 04, 2026, 04:18:07 PMhow do they decide who has home advantage, assuming there are 2 bowls for 2A and 2B?
Good question!

Neutral venues the preferable option?

GraceO’Malley

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 04, 2026, 04:19:02 PM
Quote from: JB3456 on June 04, 2026, 04:18:07 PMhow do they decide who has home advantage, assuming there are 2 bowls for 2A and 2B?
Good question!

Neutral venues the preferable option?
"Round 3 (Four Games)

20-21.06.2026 (Sat/Sun)

The four losing teams from Round 2a will be drawn to play the four winning teams from
Round 2b, and a draw shall determine the Home Venue for each pairing.

The draw will be subject in the first instance to the avoidance of repeat Provincial Final
pairings and, where possible, repeat pairings from Round 1."

Rossfan

Donegal v Cork has no tickets left on ticketmaster.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

David McKeown

Quote from: downgael2065 on June 04, 2026, 11:49:47 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 04, 2026, 08:31:06 AM
Quote from: onefineday on June 04, 2026, 01:59:12 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 03, 2026, 02:26:32 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 03, 2026, 02:10:04 PMSaturday June 13

Round 2A

Donegal v Cork, MacCumhaill Park, 3pm

Round 2B

Monaghan v Roscommon, St Tiernach's Park, 4.30pm, GAA+

Kildare v Kerry, Cedral St Conleth's Park, 5.30pm

Derry v Meath, Celtic Park, 7pm, GAA+

Sunday June 14

Round 2A

Louth v Armagh,Inniskeen, 1pm, RTE

Galway v Westmeath, Pearse Stadium, 2pm, GAA+

Tyrone v Mayo,Healy Park, 3.30pm, RTE

Round 2B

Cavan v Dublin, Breffni Park, 2pm


Games I was expecting to get live coverage are chosen.

Donegal, Kerry and Dublin games not shown at all? Trying to encourage Cork/Kerry/Dublin fans to travel maybe? Cork Donegal definitely one that should be covered given the journey you're asking fans to make!

Should be a cracking atmosphere in Inniskeen for sure! 8 games that are all either. 3 games where it's tough to call a winner (Derry Meath, Tyrone Mayo and Monaghan Rossies) 4 where ok theres a clear favourite but the underdogs definitely have a great chance of an upset especially the ones at home (Louth Armagh, Cavan Dublin, Galway Westmeath and Donegal Cork) all set up lovely for an ambush

Kerry Kildare probably the only game that'll be a non event especially if Kerry get bodies back.
I agree with whoever said it's a poor enough draw, to my mind there's no real blockbuster clash and contrary to your read on it, I think Donegal, Galway and Kerry will win pulling up, Dublin could easily do likewise and similarly Armagh, but the venues do give a wee bit of a chance to the home teams, particularly Louth.
That leaves 3 games which are hard to call  and they truly are hard to call, but none of the six involved are top tier contenders, so hopefully good games, but not blockbusters. Of those three games, I'd say the rossies are probably the safest call, but it could go either way too.
Re the TV coverage, I'm glad that common sense has prevailed and the three least appetising clashes have been the three casualties.

Been some great games to date, let's hope this year's championship doesn't peter out like last year's, where the games from quarter finals stage on were largely non-events.
Realistically we're at the last 16 stage and there'll always be mismatches, hopefully from the last 12 on games should be more exciting, naturally not every team can be a contender but like the Cavan/Westmeath can still be good games. Again I think Westmeath will give Galway their fill of it but probably fall short in the end. All teams bar Kildare have at least a punchers chance I would say.

With the Cork and Dublin games it depends which version turn up, if Cork are at it they'll cause Donegal hassle and make a game of it, if not it'll be a 10 plus point hammering, if Dublin are on it they'll beat Cavan easily but if they aren't Cavan again will give them hassle. Potential for Kerry to meet Galway/Armagh in a quarter final which would be properly blockbuster.

In a weird way its probably better to get kerry sooner rather than later as they get lads healthier with more fitness and sharpness with each week. Depends on how bad the injuries are. Gavin white had a setback? He dropped out of squad for donegal but came on in munster final. Hes very short on football this year.

Not sure if a round 3 away to tyrone, roscommon or mayo/ monaghan is going to help or hinder them at this stage. Kerry armagh quarter final would be juicy alright

Statistically they are most likely to draw Westmeath in Round 3 and can't draw Monaghan or Roscommon.
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Captain Obvious

From the anglocelt and one for Cavan posters on here to answer?

QuoteWhy have Cavan fans turned their back on the team?


The media have been commenting on it for a while now. The Donegal Democrat noted how muted the Cavan support was during the 2024 National League, while the Irish Independent remarked on the sparse travelling support which witnessed the win over Mayo in 2025. It is no longer something that can be dismissed as an isolated observation; it is a trend – Cavan now have a very small core support.

Now that's different, let's be clear, than a bandwagon, which were originally large wagons which carried musicians in circus parades in 19th-century America. Politicians later adopted the idea; successful candidates rode in parades with bands playing and, as momentum built behind them, supporters would literally climb aboard to associate themselves with the winner.

Every county has their own bandwagon which can be mobilised quite quickly. When Westmeath played Longford in the opening round of this year's Leinster Championship, only around 1,000 spectators attended. Yet last week, in a slightly comic twist, some Westmeath supporters were online pleading for tickets for their clash with Cavan, further evidence that success creates demand, as does even the hope of success – people just want to be part of something.


Cavan, however, find themselves in a slightly different situation than Westmeath because this is a county whose supporters were once recognised nationally as the most loyal in Ireland.

We've all experienced the madness of it all, when football grips us. In 1997, a newly married couple famously travelled from their wedding reception to Croke Park aboard Sean Quinn's helicopter for the All-Ireland semi-final against Kerry. Supporters of a certain vintage still talk about the traffic jam on the road to Longford for the 1988 All-Ireland U21 final, so severe that many supporters missed the first half altogether. The examples are endless.

Those stories have become part of local folklore because they represented something deeper than football. Following Cavan was simply what people did but it no longer is - lest we forget, a crowd of 625 turned up for the league match against Offaly this year.

Perhaps, in a strange way, 1997 – the highpoint of the last 55 years in terms of the football hysteria engendered in this county - lowered the bar. Cavan had been starved of success for so long that the breakthrough instantly carried almost mythical significance. Where once Cavan contested and won All-Irelands, now it was confirmed: winning an Ulster title was enough to immortalise players forever.

Yet the underlying anxiety about the county's football future, which had built up over the previous decades, never really disappeared. The ugly truth is that in footballing terms, Cavan has spent more than half a century in varying degrees of panic mode, always scrambling to recover something that has been lost.


The county's identity as a football powerhouse first came under serious pressure in the 1960s when we failed to reach an All-Ireland final for the first time since the 1910s. "Devastation," was how Garret O'Reilly, who played on two of the Ulster-winning teams, described his father TP's feelings at the end of that decade. TP was county chairman and an All-Ireland winner himself.

It got worse. The 1970s brought no Ulster title, something that would once have been considered unimaginable. The 1980s saw just one Ulster final appearance and then came seven years without a championship victory at all from 1988 onwards.
For a county whose sense of itself was built around football, it must have felt as though the world was spinning off its axis. But then, from nowhere, there was hope.

In 1995, Cavan defeated Antrim and Monaghan to reach an Ulster final. They lost to Tyrone but momentum was building. The following year, the U21s won Ulster and reached the All-Ireland final.

Around that time, The Anglo-Celt attended a training session ahead of a championship opener against Antrim in Casement Park. Manager Martin McHugh, a master at shaping narratives, spoke openly about the supporters.
"Appreciating that Cavan will have much bigger support at the game than Antrim, Martin voiced his appreciation and said the support from the Cavan fans has been great," the report noted.


"Since I came to Cavan," McHugh said, "it has been very enthusiastic as people say they are the best supporters in the country. Hopefully, if we do go behind at some stage, the support we have will lift the players."

As it turned out, 8,000 paid in in Belfast, although "the bulk came from Cavan" according to this paper. Euro '96, in England, was in full flow and was reckoned to have affected the attendance. By the next round against Down, however, more than 25,000 were present.

And then came '97, dropping from heaven like a gift. The delirium which followed is difficult to explain to younger supporters. Some players became almost deity-like figures, men who had delivered their people to the Promised Land after decades of waiting - but the panic still didn't subside.

There were bright spots, of course. We all remember those Wednesday nights, many of them in Brewster Park, when Cavan's U21 side conquered Ulster year after year. Between the 2010 Ulster final and the heartbreaking last-minute defeat to Donegal in Ballybofey in 2015, Cavan did not lose a single match in the province at U21 level.
Yet while the fingerprints of those players were all over many good days, overall, the promise was not fulfilled.

Since then, underage success has largely dried up. The U20s reached an Ulster final in 2022 and lost by a point to Tyrone, who went on to become All-Ireland champions. Aside from that, Cavan have rarely looked like genuine contenders at underage level despite the efforts that have gone into it.

Recently, a friend offered a familiar reassurance. "Cavan will be alright. There will always be footballers in Cavan," he said.
And there is logic to that argument. Gaelic football remains the dominant sporting and social pursuit in the county and there is no immediate threat to that position - but footballers alone are not enough.
The right culture is needed to develop them and the right structures are needed to maximise them. Most importantly, there must be an honest recognition of where the county actually stands.

A strategic plan covering 2025-30 set ambitious targets, including winning Ulster titles at minor, U20 and senior level within five years as well as a Lory Meagher Cup. Two years have now passed. Does anyone genuinely believe those targets are on course to be achieved?

Cavan increasingly resembles the sick patient who insists there is nothing wrong, refuses to visit the doctor and becomes angry at anyone who points out the symptoms.

How else can it be explained that across senior, U20, minor and club football, as well as hurling, counties of similar size such as Monaghan and Roscommon consistently outperform Cavan?

Supporters see these things - and perhaps that is where the attendance issue begins. In addition, there are more distractions than ever before and people now need to believe in something before they invest their time and money into it.


Dermot McCabe touched on this after the defeat to Westmeath in an interview with Off The Ball. He noted that Cavan supporters were out-numbered 10 to one but that the team gave them something to shout about. It was an important observation because it acknowledged a reality that many have been reluctant to confront which is that support cannot be demanded, it has to be earned.

When supporters see progress and sense momentum, they respond. It becomes a movement and the support itself actually sustains the journey, team and fans feeding off each other. At present, that feeling is entirely absent, although maybe the home draw against a vulnerable Dublin will change that.

McCabe, always articulate in interviews, sounded a surprisingly contented note after Saturday's defeat, perhaps because the eventual margin was not as severe as it might have been or maybe he saw improvement. Paddy Lynch, in his interview, called for an end to criticism of the manager, another remark that said plenty without saying everything.

Because if losing both McKenna Cup matches, five of seven league games and both championship fixtures, largely against teams Cavan had been beating in recent years, cannot prompt honest examination, then what can?
Everyone involved in Cavan football wants the same outcome, which is for the county to succeed, but accountability is not negativity and demanding standards is not disloyalty. The opposite is the case, in fact.
The gut feeling is the supporters are still there but the connection has been broken, long before this team or this manager or this county board were in place. The question now is whether the team can give them a reason to flock to the terraces again.
Let's be realistic - Cavan are never going to dominate Ulster football again but the cup must be refilled or eventually it runs dry. Right now, Cavan's is perilously low.

To win back the fans, Cavan must win matches. And, as last Saturday showed, that's not easy at all.




Cunny Funt

Sums up Cavan well at the moment.

QuoteCavan increasingly resembles the sick patient who insists there is nothing wrong, refuses to visit the doctor and becomes angry at anyone who points out the symptoms.

Rossfan

While ye're at it Tyrone's big following seems to have melted away in recent years.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

trueblue1234

Inconsistent team performances prob the biggest issue there. Takes a bit of a run to get the bandwagon into gear. That plus the cost, id say is having an impact on support.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

Main Street

Quote from: Rossfan on June 05, 2026, 12:49:24 PMWhile ye're at it Tyrone's big following seems to have melted away in recent years.
And there's tumbleweed blowing through Hill 16 these days.