Armagh v Tyrone USFC - BOX IT Athletic Grounds, Sunday 12th April, 16:15

[Armagh18]

Jason Duffy doesn't do enough for me tbh, last 15 mins for me. If everyone is fit i'd be going for...

Hughes

Burns
McKay
McCambridge/McGrane

McQuillan
TK
Burns

Crealey
Mackin (if fit enough)

Murnin
McMullen
McCabe

Conaty
O'Neill
McConville

Which leaves Grugan, McCormack, Joey McIlroy, McGrane or McCambridge, Duffy, Turbitt etc from the bench which is strong enough bench. I'm sure I've left someone out, I always do.

Could  see Mackin on bench
Grugan or mc Elroy starting and mc cabe around the middle with murnin
Would like grugan for frees
Also think Murphy and mc.Cormick had strong leagues

Forgot about him somehow, had a good league and did very well on Sean O'Shea.

I think Murphy will start clearly highly thought of if given the O'Shea job given what he did to Armagh in Croke Park last year and think he started all league games.  Could be given the job on Ethan Jordan Tyrone's big two point threat. 

Yeah you're right hard to see him being dropped, tough enough team to pick, good to have a few more options now and hopefully more to come back.

[illdecide]

The thing is even if those fellas aren't fit for 70 minutes getting 3 or 4 them back gives Armagh a strong bench again which more than any one player is probably Armagh's biggest strength over the last few years. They are probably the county that is most stronger than the sum of its parts.

It also allows for greater options for balance. Arguably Armagh started the last day with 9 defenders 1 midfielder and 4 forwards. The substitution brought much better balance and Armagh came back into the game. I don't think that was unconnected.

100% David, I said at the time is it any wonder we're getting beat out the park with the teams shape and positions all over the place. When Oisin and C Turbitt were introduced our whole dynamics changed and we looked like a proper team again. I get that those lads were injured and probably could not have started but what a difference they made to the team when brought on. Injuries seem to be clearing up but unfortunately the guys coming back from injury cannot be expected to slot straight back in, they will not be sharp nor match fit which is my worry.

[Canavanistheman03]

Morgan
Quinn Hampsey Teague
Seanie Devlin mckernan
McDonnell Brian
Daly conn Mcgeary
Darragh Mattie Jordan

Personal opinion.
Ruairi C, Joey Clarke, mccurry, Cassidy, Mcelholm, oguz, Aidy Clarke, mccullagh, aodhan Donaghy, Mcgarrity
honourable mentions

Canavan 3.7

[tonto1888]

All being well we should beat Tyrone but I would be lying if I sai I wasn't at all worried or concerns about what Tyrone can bring. The team made above is strong and. Canavan can do a lot of damage

[ranch]

Tickets are out tomorrow morning. Expect an absolute dogfight with at least one black or red card. Hope Geezer leaves the poor flags alone though.

Home advantage should swing it for us but make no mistake Tyrone are absolutely sitting in the long grass. Still have plenty of quality players, there was a 15 posted here a week or 2 back that would be well capable of beating Armagh.

I don't think home advantage will have much of a bearing and despite what the bookies might say, there's not much between the 2 teams.
I don't care what anybody says about the league form etc, once Tyrone knew they realistically wouldn't be relegated everything they were doing was working towards championship, league games were just fixtures that had to be fulfilled. Tyrone were in an AI semi final last year and were a kick of a ball away from beating Armagh in Ulster, they'll have no fear or inferiority complex travelling to the Athletic Grounds.

Tyrone didn't know they were safe until late in the league, so what's the excuse for all the preceding games?

Armagh home advantage is as strong an advantage any county team have at home.

They were never in serious danger of relegation at any point.

I beg to differ on the home advantage point. As nice as it is to play at home I don't put much weight on it in a game such as this. I hope Armagh win, but I fancy Tyrone to do what they did to Donegal last year and turn us over.

Tyrone were definitely in the running for relegation. If you dont think losing nearly all your games doesn't bring you into that conversation then you are simply biased. Tyrone beat Cavan, were lucky to beat Offaly who everybody else was hammering, and lost the rest bar the draw.

Biased? I'm from Armagh, I'd love nothing better than to see Tyrone relegated. The idea it was a close run thing however is far from the case.

[Armagh18]

Tickets are out tomorrow morning. Expect an absolute dogfight with at least one black or red card. Hope Geezer leaves the poor flags alone though.

Home advantage should swing it for us but make no mistake Tyrone are absolutely sitting in the long grass. Still have plenty of quality players, there was a 15 posted here a week or 2 back that would be well capable of beating Armagh.

I don't think home advantage will have much of a bearing and despite what the bookies might say, there's not much between the 2 teams.
I don't care what anybody says about the league form etc, once Tyrone knew they realistically wouldn't be relegated everything they were doing was working towards championship, league games were just fixtures that had to be fulfilled. Tyrone were in an AI semi final last year and were a kick of a ball away from beating Armagh in Ulster, they'll have no fear or inferiority complex travelling to the Athletic Grounds.

Tyrone didn't know they were safe until late in the league, so what's the excuse for all the preceding games?

Armagh home advantage is as strong an advantage any county team have at home.

They were never in serious danger of relegation at any point.

I beg to differ on the home advantage point. As nice as it is to play at home I don't put much weight on it in a game such as this. I hope Armagh win, but I fancy Tyrone to do what they did to Donegal last year and turn us over.

Tyrone were definitely in the running for relegation. If you dont think losing nearly all your games doesn't bring you into that conversation then you are simply biased. Tyrone beat Cavan, were lucky to beat Offaly who everybody else was hammering, and lost the rest bar the draw.

Biased? I'm from Armagh, I'd love nothing better than to see Tyrone relegated. The idea it was a close run thing however is far from the case.

Wasn't there still an (extremely) outside chance if Cavan and Kildare had won on the last day of Tyrone going down? Cavan to 6 points, Kildare and Tyrone to 5 in which case it would have been down to score difference as the 2 drew. I accept obviously it would have taken a big swing in score difference.

[thebigfullforward]

Expecting nothing less than a comprehensive Armagh win. On paper tyrone might have players to challenge Armagh however they dont have the right attitude and have not played well for a full 70mins this year.

Mind you, Armagh have not played for 70 mins either, but when they got going they have been decent.

Bit different when one team is in division 1 and the other is in division 2 and the only teams we've beat so far are the ones below us so basically division 3 teams are our match. If it's within 10 points I'd be shocked nearly

[ClubScene13]

Tickets are out tomorrow morning. Expect an absolute dogfight with at least one black or red card. Hope Geezer leaves the poor flags alone though.

Home advantage should swing it for us but make no mistake Tyrone are absolutely sitting in the long grass. Still have plenty of quality players, there was a 15 posted here a week or 2 back that would be well capable of beating Armagh.

I don't think home advantage will have much of a bearing and despite what the bookies might say, there's not much between the 2 teams.
I don't care what anybody says about the league form etc, once Tyrone knew they realistically wouldn't be relegated everything they were doing was working towards championship, league games were just fixtures that had to be fulfilled. Tyrone were in an AI semi final last year and were a kick of a ball away from beating Armagh in Ulster, they'll have no fear or inferiority complex travelling to the Athletic Grounds.

Tyrone didn't know they were safe until late in the league, so what's the excuse for all the preceding games?

Armagh home advantage is as strong an advantage any county team have at home.

They were never in serious danger of relegation at any point.

I beg to differ on the home advantage point. As nice as it is to play at home I don't put much weight on it in a game such as this. I hope Armagh win, but I fancy Tyrone to do what they did to Donegal last year and turn us over.

Tyrone were definitely in the running for relegation. If you dont think losing nearly all your games doesn't bring you into that conversation then you are simply biased. Tyrone beat Cavan, were lucky to beat Offaly who everybody else was hammering, and lost the rest bar the draw.

Biased? I'm from Armagh, I'd love nothing better than to see Tyrone relegated. The idea it was a close run thing however is far from the case.

Lucky to beat Offaly when it was 0-28 to 2-13 a bit of a stretch as well here. Would expect Armagh to win but the local derby factor will keep it close, as bad as Tyrone's league was the general public here will not accept rolling over in the Athletic Grounds by 10+ points, most people I talk to are expecting them to give a decent rattle even though form doesn't suggest this. Armagh haven't got it handy against us too often and vice versa

[Armagh18]

Tickets are out tomorrow morning. Expect an absolute dogfight with at least one black or red card. Hope Geezer leaves the poor flags alone though.

Home advantage should swing it for us but make no mistake Tyrone are absolutely sitting in the long grass. Still have plenty of quality players, there was a 15 posted here a week or 2 back that would be well capable of beating Armagh.

I don't think home advantage will have much of a bearing and despite what the bookies might say, there's not much between the 2 teams.
I don't care what anybody says about the league form etc, once Tyrone knew they realistically wouldn't be relegated everything they were doing was working towards championship, league games were just fixtures that had to be fulfilled. Tyrone were in an AI semi final last year and were a kick of a ball away from beating Armagh in Ulster, they'll have no fear or inferiority complex travelling to the Athletic Grounds.

Tyrone didn't know they were safe until late in the league, so what's the excuse for all the preceding games?

Armagh home advantage is as strong an advantage any county team have at home.

They were never in serious danger of relegation at any point.

I beg to differ on the home advantage point. As nice as it is to play at home I don't put much weight on it in a game such as this. I hope Armagh win, but I fancy Tyrone to do what they did to Donegal last year and turn us over.

Tyrone were definitely in the running for relegation. If you dont think losing nearly all your games doesn't bring you into that conversation then you are simply biased. Tyrone beat Cavan, were lucky to beat Offaly who everybody else was hammering, and lost the rest bar the draw.

Biased? I'm from Armagh, I'd love nothing better than to see Tyrone relegated. The idea it was a close run thing however is far from the case.

Lucky to beat Offaly when it was 0-28 to 2-13 a bit of a stretch as well here. Would expect Armagh to win but the local derby factor will keep it close, as bad as Tyrone's league was the general public here will not accept rolling over in the Athletic Grounds by 10+ points, most people I talk to are expecting them to give a decent rattle even though form doesn't suggest this. Armagh haven't got it handy against us too often and vice versa

Yeah think the record is even enough, they beat us in was it 2023 to relegate us and beat us in the round robin as well, we beat them last year with the last kick.

[naka]

Expect a hard fought game but Armagh  to win by 3/4 at the end.
Anything else is a shock.
For me there are 4 teams who can win Sam and outside of Donegal  or Kerry it's Armagh and Galway .
Just need confirmation fully that Rian is back and I would be a lot more confident from an Orchard point of view

[tonto1888]

Expect a hard fought game but Armagh  to win by 3/4 at the end.
Anything else is a shock.
For me there are 4 teams who can win Sam and outside of Donegal  or Kerry it's Armagh and Galway .
Just need confirmation fully that Rian is back and I would be a lot more confident from an Orchard point of view

Just accept there's no Rian this year mate

[David McKeown]

Expect a hard fought game but Armagh  to win by 3/4 at the end.
Anything else is a shock.
For me there are 4 teams who can win Sam and outside of Donegal  or Kerry it's Armagh and Galway .
Just need confirmation fully that Rian is back and I would be a lot more confident from an Orchard point of view

Just accept there's no Rian this year mate

Yeah that's what I am hearing too unfortunately. No Grimley, Soupy or Connaire Mackin either. Decent enough squad to absorb those but may ultimately make a difference when push comes to shove

[armaghniac]

Expect a hard fought game but Armagh  to win by 3/4 at the end.
Anything else is a shock.
For me there are 4 teams who can win Sam and outside of Donegal  or Kerry it's Armagh and Galway .
Just need confirmation fully that Rian is back and I would be a lot more confident from an Orchard point of view

Just accept there's no Rian this year mate

I think so, but while we may come close his absence could just prevent us winning again.

[JoG2]

Expect a hard fought game but Armagh  to win by 3/4 at the end.
Anything else is a shock.
For me there are 4 teams who can win Sam and outside of Donegal  or Kerry it's Armagh and Galway .
Just need confirmation fully that Rian is back and I would be a lot more confident from an Orchard point of view

Just accept there's no Rian this year mate

I think so, but while we may come close his absence could just prevent us winning again.

Has it not been the same the last 3 years ?

[Armagh18]

Expect a hard fought game but Armagh  to win by 3/4 at the end.
Anything else is a shock.
For me there are 4 teams who can win Sam and outside of Donegal  or Kerry it's Armagh and Galway .
Just need confirmation fully that Rian is back and I would be a lot more confident from an Orchard point of view

Just accept there's no Rian this year mate

I think so, but while we may come close his absence could just prevent us winning again.

Yeah most likely. Think we definitely win Ulster last year with him.